Cheapest 3080Ti fix ever
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I had one customer who said their computer screen would go black, just by grabbing any window, and shaking it on the desktop. Sounded really odd to me. Then i saw the PSU Geek Squad put in his PC. It was an Apevia 500 watt. His problem was it couldn't handle 300 watt. The 1080 video card was starving to death, and even 2-D was enough to frack everything.😂 If all i had was a 1080 staring up at me, i would not have found anything wrong.
I find weak or insufficient power supplies in alot of computers I fix, just had an old vega 64 and it was running on a 550 watt, customer said it went black screen and the gpu fan would go 100%. 😂
i personally have an apevia 520w and i don't see how the hell it crashed. the 1080 draws 175, and any ok CPU draws anywhere from 95-135 watts, which is far under the power draw limit. I personally used an rx 580 on my PSU that draws way more than a 1080, and it ran just fine.
@@gargolgaming8101 The one I worked on had a vega 64 and a 5700g, wall power only registered 440 or so tops, 550 watt p.s. which happened to be an apevia oddly would run fine under less demanding games and black screen and fan would go 100%, replaced with a 750 and it runs fine. Power supply tested fine, I put it in my potato test computer with a 5500xt.
@@gargolgaming8101 Simple. Inline watt meter didn't lie. I changed nothing else but his PSU. I flipped him into a used Rosewill semi-modular 750, for 20 dollars, and didn't charge for install. That solved the problem. No more crashing. The apevia 500w had a strange smell, like bad clutch pads. If you got lucky, well enjoy it.
@@gargolgaming8101 the Power on a PSU is combined power on all Rails, even 5v Rail so maybe ur 12V rail has just 300w
The person who created those connectors that come off must be the same person who created USB 3 headers on motherboards LOL
lol right
whatever you do, the connector easily snap
Been watching your videos for a while, more entertaining than some other content creators with "north" in their name.
I know nothing about electrical repair, but I find your videos soothing and enjoy watching them. Just subscribed. Thanks for all the content.
Thank you for making these videos man. It gives me a lot more confidence working more in depth in my own PC.
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@@TinMan445Not necessarily. I learned how to build a PC by simply reading and looking at pictures. I have never messed up anything but then again I know to be very careful and take certain precautions, also not to f**k with stuff if things are already working properly.
These types of videos can be invaluable for learning, just you know some people shouldn't open things up or mess with stuff as they just don't have the patience or delicateness at all.
I used to work in PCB assembly plant, and they stopped using lead solder because of the health issues that they could cause to the operators. Some bits were manual soldering and other bits were done by machines.
Have you ever considered expanding outside of just GPU repairs? It seems like your advanced knowledge of circuitry would make repairing other electronics possible, such as older consoles, Mobos, and what not. You'll definitely stay busy, but more options should bring in more money, especially since you do amazing work.
lead-free solder + ball grid array = match made in hell. Has caused nothing but problems since it's inception.
Hello! Back from the UK! Your channel is amazing!!!!!
Hi, love the vids man, great job! on your select output problem, actually can do it via a switch, on your mobo you can force that your onboard display is always on with dedicated. then run a combiner switch to your screen so then you can switch between onboard and what ever is on the desk, i run multiple screen setups from my onboard and 3d card.
i have been hear from the beginning . i mean abou3k subs. and i have watched every video. i'm repairing laptops but very interested in gpus . love to see your channel grow.
Just a little tip on these cards that you know is randomly crashing boot the card 3amp current limited if the draw is normal go straight to testing before you open it up.. In my experience in the case of cold solder joints flexing the board can temporarily fix the problem and take way more time than necessary.. Also could just be a thermal issue that could be easily diagnosed before you tear it down.. Personally I never take a card apart until it's power tested and if it passes then I'll test on the test bench to determine what the problem is.. In my opinion it's a way better than the route than you've been taking lol.. Like i said it just my opinion and everybody does things differently.. Anyways I enjoy the videos keep up the good work..
Will 17 likes do it ?
Trouble shooting step #1 no matter what is being tested is test as is to see the problem yourself... or not. Test drive the car or test the GPU? Doesn't matter, it should happen as is before any tools are out.
You do realize he is doing it not because he enjoys extra work , but for the show?
I also always start with a mild diagnosis and then gradually increase the level of diagnosis, but I enjoy watching this video so I can get to know more about the contains of various graphics cards.
Power testing first is a bit like just plugging in everything in your house to the same outlet. Eventually something bad is gonna happen lol
NW repair is just a bro helping out a bro. I have mad respect
Nice to see the same model that I own on your hands, and discovering good and bad things about it. Thanks as always for your video! Of course, thanks too to your funny comments, they make may day ;)
I'm pretty sure Greta was around 3 years old when RoHS was enacted.
And the issue isn't lead-free solder _per se_ (of which there are multiple types - some significantly better than others), it's the fact that some manufacturers try to use the cheapest one they possibly can.
Leaded solder is still allowed (even for industrial production) as long as manufacturers prove that (even good) lead-free solder isn't as reliable for their application, and commit to collecting and recycling the products they sell. A lot of medical equipment still uses leaded solder. Manufacturers who just want to sell their stuff and let others deal with the waste are (and should be) required to use lead-free.
LIke he said, unfortunately she's not the real source either. She's another consequence. You're not allowed to name the source on these platforms because they're so powerful that you can't talk about how powerful they are, while telling us that they have no power. ;) I believe Voltaire said something about that.
@@VeritasEtAequitas - Is it the lizard people? It's the lizard people, right? I knew it! Wait, what's that hissing behind me...?
@@RFC3514 LizardPeople, delicious
You deserve waay more views, likes and subs, love your videos, keep on !
600 frames on the donut I'M ROLLING ON THE FLOOR🤣
RTX 3xxx PNY, GAINWARD, PALIT is the same. Only diferent stickers on fans.
I heard same thing.
These brands are not common in the US by the way. More so in Europe
mine any kawpow algorythm with it, that cranks the core and memory to max. If that passes, and no visual issues in win, i'd consider it perfectly fine. Users have messed up systems, dirty dusty/greasy pcie connectors with dog fur and halfway plugged 8pins, but you are super precise to approach even a perfect card from the perspective that it might be shorted. Respect, i learned a lot again :)
Added this card to my bucket list after seeing the teardown.
We do what we must because we can )))
You are doing amazing job! Like your videos. Thanks.
Best wishes from another side of the world
"Aktchually" - that gap is there for the PCIe securing latch that some boards have. :D And so that you can put a goddamn finger in there, because it can be a huge pain otherwise.
You are a hero of mine. Keep up the good fight.
Hello Tony (x5)
Great video's! I always was interested in hardware more than software but didn't have the right equipment or patience like you. Really cool that you resurrect these cards from the dead and safe them from the junkpile ever growing larger.
Big probs, you have a new subscriber,
Greetings, The Internet
on cheap cards, the memory can go higher than hotspot temps because the memory chips aren't cooled with any cooler. anecdotally, memory chips without coolers can perform as good or better vs memory chips attached to coolers. Some cards with inadequate or weak coolers just add more heat to the memory chips
00:03 Fixing a 3080 TI from PNY that broke while idling
03:12 Impressed with the ease of disassembly
09:16 Discussion on the components and diagnostic process of the 3080Ti
11:56 DIY modification using sandpaper to make M3 standoff fit M2 card holes
16:58 Swapping graphics card to 3080 Ti in BIOS setup
20:17 Troubleshooting and testing GPU performance for artifacts
26:32 Assembly of the 3080Ti is smooth and enjoyable
29:03 Achieve optimal performance by ensuring hot spot and memory temperatures are similar
34:38 Showing a 3080 Ti with LED lights
37:03 Sharing information about 3080Ti fix
XLR8 is pronounced as "accelerate". Cool name because it takes us back to the wildly successful Megas XLR cartoon which unfortunately got canceled.
That EVE Online add on youtube brings back so many years of memories
You're not a bad looking lad 😅 Good morning from Ireland love your videos.
Yes we can hear you in Canada 🇨🇦
You should never work for free, period. I haven't seen a single YT "fixer" that offers no fix, no fee. There is a well known repair guy in the UK that charges minimum £60 per hour, plus components. This is highly skilled work, (if done properly), and your work is first class. Don't sell yourself short. Start charging a minimum price, just for looking at these things, then charge per hour. Your videos speak for themselves. Keep up the excellent work Tony 👍👍👍
Monetized Video with over 13,000 views so far... he isn't working for free.
Doesn't louis rossmann do no fix no fee? Or at least that's what I saw in one of his older videos.
@@rateater420he charges shipping and such but lewis runs a company that makes decent cash, big difference from just losing your job and hoping fixing video cards on TH-cam works out. But no fix no fee really doesn't hurt the business too badly as long as they pay the shipping.
Hmm.. I welcome the challenge; I'm quite confident that I can locate a TH-cam repair engineer who offers free services on an Nvidia GPU board.
Just allow me a few mins, I'll be back, while waiting hit my S-button. 🙄
Impress myself sometime, I've got a handle on a guy by the name of, NorthridgeFix.
In a video about Nvidia GPUs released five days ago with this TH-camr highlighted that certain users received both a cost-free repair and free shipping.
Technically the plate would be an O shield, as it has no inputs.
If you want to make things a little more automatic with the BIOS settings... you _could_ get a second BIOS chip for that board, make a break-out PCB that fits into the connector (cables are OK), and then put a switch to the CHIP SELECT pin on those two chips (common to board, and the two outputs to either chip, with perhaps some pull up/down resistors). Then configure one of them for iGPU boot. This way you could power the system down, flip a switch, power it back up, and have it boot the iGPU as if by magic. Though notably, changing settings on one of 'em would not be reflected in the other. :D
I think it should be either with motherboard bios related or Power Supply related crashes. But usually the customer doesn't know such stuff and they end up sending the card for repair.
Funnily enough, I've been buying Gigabyte boards for 25 years (my first Gigabyte was a Riva TNT2 M64), and I've never had any issues with them. They all worked flawlessly and still work to this day (yes, I still have them, I'm a collector), although, after all of these years, I did have to replace some capacitors due to the capacitor plague from '99 - '05. The only card that died on me was an MSI GTX 760 (artifacts consistent with faulty memory ICs), but MSI was very quick to replace the card and I still have its replacement which still works after 10 years.
Gigabyte WAS sweet, back when i had a Slot-A motherboard. Now they sell motherboards that are DOA. Disappointing, would be my word of choice for Gigglebutt.
I have various cards and boards from every manufacturer and they all still work to this day. Some still running OC'd daily in family systems. I really only starting seeing a notable quality drop into the DDR4 era.
@JJFX-, all electronic devices have a 1 - 3% failure rate. That's just how it is, how it's always been, and it will continue to be true in the future as well. You can't really judge a product because you happened to receive a DOA device. I can assure you that most Gigabyte motherboards, video cards are not DOA. 🙂
@@ruxandy It could be much more than 1 - 3% in Gigabyte's case. Because I got 2 Gigabyte B650M DS3H boards IN A ROW that had a memory VRM coilwhine issue, the third one didn't though. I'm pretty sure I just got really unlucky, and I still love Gigabyte's products, but anyway, this was my experience.
@@atirta777 , coil whine is a completely separate issue altogether (and one that is very difficult to pinpoint). Since I have hundreds of computer parts, I know the issue all too well, and what I've found is that a certain device/PC component can have coil whine when used in conjunction with certain other parts, and the same device might be completely silent on another PC, with different components.
They charge so much and still make them so cheaply because nvidia increasingly has reduced the margins for the card manufacturers. They tell them how much they are going to pay for the chips and how much they are going to sell the cards for. I think maybe because nvidia wants its founder's cards to be the best, or is wanting to take over all manufacturing eventually, or also maybe just because they can.
Friday morning, my old Asus EAH 5850 had a short circuit, and burned up on the PCIe bus on the electric side, my computer shut down immediately, and luckily the Motherboard, CPU, Memory and the PSU were spared, good I was at home, and could fast remove the GPU from burning further. And the PCIe slot, after cleaning, still works. Thank god. I had plans to change this GPU anyway, so now I have to speed up things. Never had a GPU blowing up that way.
You are probably flooded by work after all these videos of successful repairs , we could use someone like you here in Slovakia. Great job. I got to learn a lot about cards....
What is the video card plugged into at 14:34? Is it available to buy? Do you have a list of equipment that you use to work on video cards?
What's GRETA? Here in Europe we had the infamous RoHS directive twenty years ago that resulted in a tremendous downgrade on solder quality with electronic equipment since it came into force.
Great work, I wish I could do the same
Personally, my experience is that Furmark generaly doesn't trigger random crashes. Haven't done it for some years now, but i think i remember sometimes getting crashes that would only trigger on certain conditions, like it might only trigger in one of Heaven, or 3DMark's Fire Strike or Time Spy... and then being random, having to leave each benchmark running for hours, to see if it happens... i think they might've cut down on the testing since then, something about AMD generally taking back "unstable cards" without needing tests.
¿ but i think i remember ?
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Using that tension plate is cheaper than 4 small coil springs.
The difference is you can install the plate incorrectly with the legs pointing down.
can you recommend a gpu brand , i think you fixed all brands but what are the best and reliable pcb ?
I feel bad I got a gigabyte during the pandemic.. which is the #1 card you recommend now that EVGA is gone?
LOL I don't think Greta knew about Lead free solder. I wasn't made law until 2006, Greta was born 2003. Regardless, yes it is a pain in the arse!!
I don't know if that card produced a crash off screen while testing but if I have to guess, it did not.
Anyway, I had some similar issue years ago with an pov gtx 570 and an older enermax psu. While idle it worked fine, when gaming, I had to limit every game to 60fps with vsync otherwise instant freeze. Turned out after swaping card, the psu simply was dying, a bunch of caps were swollen. Changed psu and put back card, everything worked fine. I bet, who ever owns this card, maybe has psu issues or a weakening board, as in idle the gpu pulls most power from the pcie slot. Maybe the psus 5v rail is weak or one of the 12v. I would suggest, just for testing, try different psu, doesn't need to have 800+ watts, just let pc with swapped psu sit on desktop. Wait if crash or no.
Love ya work
absolute wizard!!!
got enough parts from donors and salvage to cobble together a working videocard?
I have the 3080 from Pallit, and the same board, same design, memory temperatures are below the hot spot.
I use a RTX 3080ti and the card runs hot. So, I copper molded it and now they work perfect. I have heard the cases against copper modding. But, I did not make a slurry of Thermal Paste all over. I strategically placed it on the ram chips. The card runs at least 35% cooler.
Weird crash symptoms on 3080(xx)? On mine it was simply that the card was either not aligned to the PCI slot or there was something funky with the edge connector. I have a MSI3080 Gaming X Trio and it would crash for no deducible reason when under load or from cold boot about 3 months after I installed it. Was about to send it back for warranty repair but figured I'd look into "variables" some more seeing as I"ve never had a beefcake GPU card before that NEEDED a support to hold it perpendicular in a slot before!!! I fixed it by cleaning the edge connector with DeOxit spray and made sure that it was reinserted and mounted "perfectly". Never had a problem since that "repair" and follow that "repair regime" every 12 months now... Go figure, eh?
As a tech, I know that not finding anything wrong is sometimes worse to report to the customer then yes I found the problem and it will be a little costly to repair it, at least they have an answer.
BTW, leaded solder has been banned for the most part in commercial products in the EU since 2006 with the RoHS guideline.
Do you think the bubbles in the heat-transfer pad might have been what changed?
There is a quicker way to circumvent the change of choosing the display device. It just involves getting a second testbench with a second pci-e extender so all you need to do is switch the card in the slots :) Waste of money and might not be worth the investment, but in the long run I'd say it is as it saves much precious and valuable time.
@northwestrepair I have a gigabyte gaming OC 3080 ti that only crashes in-game(apex legends, the FINALS) if you enable resizable BAR. Is there an issue with the gpu or is resizable BAR a problematic feature?
nice work guy! youll be a lifestyle channel soon!
Thank you for the videos on cleaning and fixing GPU's, keep the work going dude. I would give you five likes but TH-cam allows only one.
Good content.
I have a Gainward 3080 which is basically exactly the same as this. Idle temps are 49(GPU), 62(memory), 63(hot spot), load are 79(GPU), 86(memory), 94(hot spot). Hotspot decently higher than memory. Also my 5600x was hitting 95C under load with the stock cooler. Now with Peerless Assassin around 60C load. I imagine it's because I live in Australia where even during winter I have a fan on in my room, so ambient temps ain't great.
I have a Zotac 3080 12gb, that i think have nice temp: idle: GPU: 41ºc hotspot: 47.5ºc mem: 48ºc , with load: 69ºc-70ºc, hotspot: 79-80ºc MEM:81-82ºc, never been open, i live in Portugal, summer is very hot, today specially (39ºc outside) - Lisbon, no AC at home, maybe 27º to 28ºc at home.
In the early NASA missions, they had women calculating trajectories, they were known as computers!
Hey bro, great job!
Lead-free solder has been since 2000 and Greta is born 2003, so don't blame her 😁
Hey dude can I ask you something, I have no clue with my problem but when I use OCCT and see voltages 8 pin and 12+ pin it just show 11.7v - 11.8v underload but when idle it show 12.2v so what do you think about my card ? Do I need to change my PSU ? I use 550w cooler master V2 and my card was 3060.
I have a pny 3060ti that had such bad voltage drop on the pcie slot that i re routed the shunt to a separate 6 pin and added jumper wires all over the card. More caps only helped so much. But the card has a good core and decent memory so cant get everything i suppose
Lead free solder pre dates the Thunberg she's only 20 and had been a pain in the ass for less time than the ban , leaded solder is still in use in medical and military applications due to cost , lower melting piont higher wettability and increased strength
Where did you buy the work mat? The blue one you have. I am a technician also and I am going to order that mat asap at work. appreciate the link or part number.
to me it look that the pads where not pealed by protection foil on one side...
@northwestrepair how do you show memory temperature on gpuz on my 3070?
good looking pcb
0:11 You got me. Hello
Hello strange craziness back @ you! And io shield. I call it al brackets! 😅
hey out of curiousity for bga reworking would you recommend the achi ir6500? or is that too much money for basically havig two ceramic heaters
Never had one.
I think IR is very bad for your eyes and considering its made in China, filter is likely to be not very effective.
Its a marketing ploy its not really ir its just the model name lol
But its really 2 ceramic heaters top and bottom
I have open slots on my 3080 10gb. What would happen if you solder 2 extra gbs to the 10gb version?
You gave me a flash back of the hyper 212 black that sliced my finger open big time. You gotta watch those fin stacks…
I have had asus do it too with those terminals.
I enjoyed your video just curious what's the name of this game...
The "who cares!" Should me his slogan😂
I wonder if cause of how heavy coolers are nowadays that may be the reason for reball without a decent support bracket and pcb sag? Just a thought.
Yes you have to support these new cards people don't understand that PCB isn't that strong
Krisfix is way more experienced than Northwest and he says the reason behind broken solder balls is lack of GPU bracket. He also used lead free solder, he is not against them. I would trust him rather than some tinfoil hat conspiracy.
@@hmello3250 lead free solder can be a big source of problems due to material properties, and there are many reputable scientific studies on that (some even from NASA).
@@hmello3250 Cope
It's like the 4090 gpu repairs. A $1800+ gpu is now being shock tested by animals or children.
It's not a Gigabyte part. All of these connectors are annoying like that, in everything... Remember how these used to be firmly attached to their pins? Sometimes the pins even had a little thicker bit, to hold them down. Well, _not anymore._
I'm loving the longer video. it eases you in video editing at the same time we can see a complete step by step guide.
now if I have a high end gpu I can break so I can follow along. lol
And a like you shall have sir.
at 22:00, why does the Bus Interface show PCIe 16 4.0 @ x1 3.0 then shift to PCIe 16 4.0 @ x1 1.1? Is that not a performance problem or is it just the external PCIe slot and how it operates?
Some boards, Auto does not detect very well the bus speed, at least that´s my experience with some Asus boards in combination with specific GPU´s.
PNY makes great cards- well at least from the 30 series and later-
One of the only American company's left
my inno3d rtx 4080 ichill x3 looks like they pipes are soldered or welded into the heatsink, but im too scared to make a teardown to figure out. I know that there is no vapour chamber with the inno3d rtx 4000 series. According to inno3d its because of better vram temp with classic cooler.
You should get some flat faced Fingernail Clippers for the plastic notches at 6:56 :)
Much safer!!! And probably useful for other parts as well when you just need a clean cut.
Hello, how are you I have the same video card, I have temperatures approximately 75° and a temperature option is called hotspot it reaches me at 105°.
Are those temperatures okay?
Sad to hear what you said about Gigabyte video cards at the 4:28 time spot. I have had a Gigabyte 6750X for the past two years and have not had a single problem with it. What I do hate about video cards is that damn tab on the bottom side of the card that I believe is supposed to be some sort of latch to secure it to the mobo, but that is not the problem, what the problem is that movable latch on the mobo. And all the mobo's have that latch. Remove the latch or come up with a better ideal. Sorry for the rant, but the problem is not the video card, it is the stupid latch.
Question: do you have a flat rate for fixing cards? If so I guess there's probably a question that always needs to be asked and that is: Does the cost of the repair exceed the cost of replacing it with a new or better card? I certainly would just throw away or donate cards that were over a certain age or cost level rather than pay to fix them.
Hello There, it's 6am , iam in Buenos Aires, Argentina, My neighbors stores alarm was trigged at 4 am , so idk WTF i am doing , lol but love your videos
anyone know if the xlr8 revel seen in this video has the same size thermal pads ad the uprising model
Hello northwestrepair!
13:52 getting cancelled any% wr speedrun pace
Is there a reason why you never measure core resistance?
10:00 I'm pretty sure they simply forgot to remove the tape on those thermal pads.
I always watch this while eating at my break at work, now my coworker think I know how to repair electronics, even tho I dont know shit. But I managed to repair some stuff and now I get even more requests at work, is this how it starts ?
@northwestrepair any updates on ur daily job? The last I remember u had a problem w manager?
Fired already. Fixing GPUs all day long
Dunno how you feel sooo, I am sorry to hear that, or I am so happy for you 😅
its probaby the cheap caps on the back common issue during the shortage
I agree with mr. Wizard there is nothing wrong with the card but there is something wrong with the customer's system, that's for sure I say.