Really great! So much of this also applies to the GS F. I think one could make a strong case for having the RC F, GS F, IS F, and LC500 all in one garage as a goal 😅
I have owned an RCF Carbon Fiber/TVD for 7+ years. Absolutely a dream car to own. You have to use SPORT+ with MANUAL mode for spirited driving. A great do everything car. Great car to take it to the track every once in a while. It has all of the hardware for it. Brakes, suspension, chassis, cooling systems and differential (TVD for mine) all are meant for the track, but then it has the luxury and practicality of 2 + 2 sports car for daily driving and putting two baby seats in the back. Modifying it also makes it more fun. Weight wise, the 3900 lbs weight is no longer a "gap", The M2 with automatic is almost 3900 lbs as well. RCF is actually more closer to size to the M2 than it is to the M4 (which is 5 inches longer and 2 inches wider).
lol, the m2 is 5 inches shorter than the rcf. The new m4 is 4 inches longer and STILL lighter than the rcf. The m2 is about 200 pounds lighter. In either case the m2 and m4 are both faster.
@@doulehr RCF is 185.1 inches long while the M2 is 180.3 inches long. The RCF is narrower than the M2 at 72.6 inches while the M2 is 74.3 inches wide. RCF is lower at 54.6 inches vs 55.2 inches for the M2. That is why I said they are similar. Like I said, M2 with DCT was weighed at 3860 lbs by Motor Trend. I have weighed mine and have slips posted in my video on my channel at 3960 lbs with all fluids and nearly 50% fuel. The point I am making, RCF's weight is all in a very compact packaging considering is smallest in its own respective class as cars have gotten bigger.
Great review! You seem to understand the emotional rush you can get from this car! We all know the cons why people hate on this car. But it’s an awesome ride ! I have the performance pack, so it has all the good stuff, and you had me smiling all through that run! Good job 👏🏾
Great review! I have one in my garage 2015 with performance package (carbon/TVD) 20 K miles - its my summer car. Coming back to the car...........most of the talk is about it being overweight or few tenth of a second slower than the european competition, however unless you track which most of us who own this car dont you will not feel or appreciate those (weight and speed) differences in daily driving. Instead in my humble opinion most of the talk should be around its rewarding daily driving experience, reliability, ease of maintanence and lexus service experience. For unreliable, punishing daily ride and pricier option but with which comes with a lot of bragging rights regarding being faster than this for a few tenths of a second or lighter in weight PLEASE buy BMW M4 or C 63. No hate replies PLEASE!
Another great review! I need you to get the IS500 again for a DRY test day with PS4S tires. Went up to the N. Georgia Mtns recently and totally hung with the RC F Track Edition, a Vette, and a Toyota...I mean Lotus....Evora. 🙂 Thanks for posting!
Glad you had fun, but that speaks more to how the drivers were driving it. Not the cars themselves. Objectively, the gap between RCF and IS500 is big. RCF has the beefed up suspension, chassis, brakes etc. all meant to be driven on the track and there is a sizable difference with the IS500. Having driven the IS500 myself, the immediate thing I noticed was the way softer chassis/suspension even in casual 6/10th driving.
@@2ZZGE100 True the suspension is softer (which I prefer!)…but have you driven the IS500 on the track? It’s quite capable and the only difference, it can only go around once before cooling and braking issues present themselves. 🤣 On the streets though (including mountain runs, which I do all the time…), the IS500 can most definitely hang with the RCF. It can take a hairpin turn a little faster, but that’s to be expected. It’ll catch it in the straights. 😜
@@blu_is500 I own an IS350 F-Sport and have driven the IS500 on the streets only for about 25 - 30 minutes. The suspension and chassis were significantly softer in the IS500 than my RCF. The steering also feels stiffer/heavier in SPORT+ in the RCF. I have seen a few track videos with Scott Pruett and the body roll/pitch/dive is pronounced. The turning speed would be about 4 - 6 mph higher in the RCF. RCF also seems more tail happy. Mine has the TVD as well. Lexus said the RCF chassis is more than 50% stiffer than the IS. On the straights, rolling from 1st gear, they feel similar in terms of power as the power to weight is similar. The transmission in RCF seems to be programmed a little more aggressive/violent in SPORT+ full throttle than the IS500, but the acceleration feels very similar.
@@2ZZGE100 The transmissions themselves are the exact same, but there may be a different program in Normal and Sport modes. In Sport+ & Manual…they behave exactly the same. I drive in manual and sport s+ 99% of the time and the gear shifts are quite violent…reminds me of the old stick shifts from the 70s and 80s. 😎 All to reiterate that on the regular streets, mountain sweepers, and canyon runs, this FSport Performance is bad ass and will not get left behind. 😜 Happy driving!
@@blu_is500 Yeah. hardware from what I can tell, is the same. I was talking about the actuation through the computer. The ECU software tuning has some differences in how the react as far as shift intensity and aggression goes at max attack. That is what my experiences were at full throttle in SPORT+ and manual. That is what my impressions were anyway. Cheers!
No it's none of those European Cars! Yet...It's a Lexus so it'll be 10 times more reliable than everyone of those European Cars Combined!!! So yeah I'd take the Lexus any day of the week over the European Cars. Hmmm Question? Is there room for a Super Charger and how much more power can the transmission take?
2025/2026 will be last of these. Lexus has the new GT3 LFR coupe ready soon, by 2026 EU racing debut which will mark end of RC F homologation. The end for Lexus as they move ahead with their hybrid/EV. LFR will probably have V6 TT + Hybrid is my guess. I doubt Lexus will use this V8 2UR GSE, it's at it's peak performance. They have to redesign a lot and due to EPA mafia and globalist mafia on the EV, they won't is my rough guess which is why they went with B58 in the Supra if they do a V8 TT in LFR all good but it will never be an NA engine. Get them while you can, I hope I can get one this year. I love the RC F, LC 500 and IS 500 but the issue with IS 500 is lack of proper F ground up design (that is causing bumper sag) and LC 500 is too exotic and expensive, which leaves the best RC F. A true race car coupe with heart and soul.
Really great! So much of this also applies to the GS F. I think one could make a strong case for having the RC F, GS F, IS F, and LC500 all in one garage as a goal 😅
Theres a dude on youtube who has all those cept the ISF. Must be one happy camper :)
I freakin' love mine. And the rarity/reliability ....
I have owned an RCF Carbon Fiber/TVD for 7+ years. Absolutely a dream car to own. You have to use SPORT+ with MANUAL mode for spirited driving. A great do everything car. Great car to take it to the track every once in a while. It has all of the hardware for it. Brakes, suspension, chassis, cooling systems and differential (TVD for mine) all are meant for the track, but then it has the luxury and practicality of 2 + 2 sports car for daily driving and putting two baby seats in the back. Modifying it also makes it more fun. Weight wise, the 3900 lbs weight is no longer a "gap", The M2 with automatic is almost 3900 lbs as well. RCF is actually more closer to size to the M2 than it is to the M4 (which is 5 inches longer and 2 inches wider).
lol, the m2 is 5 inches shorter than the rcf. The new m4 is 4 inches longer and STILL lighter than the rcf. The m2 is about 200 pounds lighter. In either case the m2 and m4 are both faster.
@@doulehr RCF is 185.1 inches long while the M2 is 180.3 inches long. The RCF is narrower than the M2 at 72.6 inches while the M2 is 74.3 inches wide. RCF is lower at 54.6 inches vs 55.2 inches for the M2. That is why I said they are similar. Like I said, M2 with DCT was weighed at 3860 lbs by Motor Trend. I have weighed mine and have slips posted in my video on my channel at 3960 lbs with all fluids and nearly 50% fuel. The point I am making, RCF's weight is all in a very compact packaging considering is smallest in its own respective class as cars have gotten bigger.
I’ve own one and it’s surprises you positively ever time you drive it fast and hard 🏎🚀
@@pawel82uk Agreed. A total jekyll/hyde car. It could be relaxed or changes character completely into a beast.
If you drive rcf well It will reward you a lot more then different cars but require a bit more driving skills . Uniqueness is priceless 💪👍
Great review! You seem to understand the emotional rush you can get from this car! We all know the cons why people hate on this car. But it’s an awesome ride ! I have the performance pack, so it has all the good stuff, and you had me smiling all through that run! Good job 👏🏾
Great review!
I have one in my garage 2015 with performance package (carbon/TVD) 20 K miles - its my summer car. Coming back to the car...........most of the talk is about it being overweight or few tenth of a second slower than the european competition, however unless you track which most of us who own this car dont you will not feel or appreciate those (weight and speed) differences in daily driving. Instead in my humble opinion most of the talk should be around its rewarding daily driving experience, reliability, ease of maintanence and lexus service experience.
For unreliable, punishing daily ride and pricier option but with which comes with a lot of bragging rights regarding being faster than this for a few tenths of a second or lighter in weight PLEASE buy BMW M4 or C 63.
No hate replies PLEASE!
One of the best and honest reviews yet on the RCF....thank you !!!!
It’s the best in its class. Wayyy more appealing and have way more substance than the Benz bmw and Audi
Lol really? So why aren’t there more sales on this car than the others?
@@JacesOwnWorld just like Michael Jackson, one of a kind. People rather buy what others buy it’s only a few selected people with great taste
Another great review! I need you to get the IS500 again for a DRY test day with PS4S tires. Went up to the N. Georgia Mtns recently and totally hung with the RC F Track Edition, a Vette, and a Toyota...I mean Lotus....Evora. 🙂 Thanks for posting!
Glad you had fun, but that speaks more to how the drivers were driving it. Not the cars themselves. Objectively, the gap between RCF and IS500 is big. RCF has the beefed up suspension, chassis, brakes etc. all meant to be driven on the track and there is a sizable difference with the IS500. Having driven the IS500 myself, the immediate thing I noticed was the way softer chassis/suspension even in casual 6/10th driving.
@@2ZZGE100 True the suspension is softer (which I prefer!)…but have you driven the IS500 on the track? It’s quite capable and the only difference, it can only go around once before cooling and braking issues present themselves. 🤣 On the streets though (including mountain runs, which I do all the time…), the IS500 can most definitely hang with the RCF. It can take a hairpin turn a little faster, but that’s to be expected. It’ll catch it in the straights. 😜
@@blu_is500 I own an IS350 F-Sport and have driven the IS500 on the streets only for about 25 - 30 minutes. The suspension and chassis were significantly softer in the IS500 than my RCF. The steering also feels stiffer/heavier in SPORT+ in the RCF. I have seen a few track videos with Scott Pruett and the body roll/pitch/dive is pronounced. The turning speed would be about 4 - 6 mph higher in the RCF. RCF also seems more tail happy. Mine has the TVD as well. Lexus said the RCF chassis is more than 50% stiffer than the IS. On the straights, rolling from 1st gear, they feel similar in terms of power as the power to weight is similar. The transmission in RCF seems to be programmed a little more aggressive/violent in SPORT+ full throttle than the IS500, but the acceleration feels very similar.
@@2ZZGE100 The transmissions themselves are the exact same, but there may be a different program in Normal and Sport modes. In Sport+ & Manual…they behave exactly the same. I drive in manual and sport s+ 99% of the time and the gear shifts are quite violent…reminds me of the old stick shifts from the 70s and 80s. 😎 All to reiterate that on the regular streets, mountain sweepers, and canyon runs, this FSport Performance is bad ass and will not get left behind. 😜 Happy driving!
@@blu_is500 Yeah. hardware from what I can tell, is the same. I was talking about the actuation through the computer. The ECU software tuning has some differences in how the react as far as shift intensity and aggression goes at max attack. That is what my experiences were at full throttle in SPORT+ and manual. That is what my impressions were anyway. Cheers!
love the car but wish they kept the screen in the dash not the cheap tablet glued to the dash like every car maker does these days.
Agreed. Previous design looked better to me.
yep had a 2015 going to rebuy
Agreed but that V8 is sooo good I can forgive any little issues like that
Rcf demands from you more driving skills in order to have a crazy fun then competitors
The last time i saw an rcf was in my garage since you asked😂🤣
No it's none of those European Cars! Yet...It's a Lexus so it'll be 10 times more reliable than everyone of those European Cars Combined!!! So yeah I'd take the Lexus any day of the week over the European Cars. Hmmm Question? Is there room for a Super Charger and how much more power can the transmission take?
2025/2026 will be last of these. Lexus has the new GT3 LFR coupe ready soon, by 2026 EU racing debut which will mark end of RC F homologation. The end for Lexus as they move ahead with their hybrid/EV. LFR will probably have V6 TT + Hybrid is my guess. I doubt Lexus will use this V8 2UR GSE, it's at it's peak performance. They have to redesign a lot and due to EPA mafia and globalist mafia on the EV, they won't is my rough guess which is why they went with B58 in the Supra if they do a V8 TT in LFR all good but it will never be an NA engine. Get them while you can, I hope I can get one this year. I love the RC F, LC 500 and IS 500 but the issue with IS 500 is lack of proper F ground up design (that is causing bumper sag) and LC 500 is too exotic and expensive, which leaves the best RC F. A true race car coupe with heart and soul.
The last of it's kind.
Far from being the “best N/A V8 vehicle ever” lol. But continue…