Loving V-8s in the 2023 Lexus RC F - DM Review | Test Drive
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- The Lexus RCF might not always come to mind when you think of sporty cars. But it might be one of the best choices you could make for a fun car purchase.
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This car is for older guys. You young buckaroos don’t understand. This is the last of the simple Japanese luxury sports cars. Things are about to get very wacky with batteries and crap. This is for those who don’t like technology.
You mean V8's/NA. Most younger guys can't afford 90k cars... right?
@@sew9068 That doesn’t stop them from making comments anyway.
@@salimrandall …just saying. Because the cars are made so well; makes them very attractive to younger buyers on the used car market.
@@sew9068 You obviously get it. But many young people don’t understand the trade off. You give up some performance for quality and longevity.
@@salimrandallDefine older? I bought my 2015 USB new 8 years ago when I was 38.
Main reasons for me was I wanted a V8 once in my life before missing the opportunity, I wanted reliability, and what I really want is an exotic but couldn't afford it, so I wanted something as close to that in looks as possible.
Finally someone who understands this car.👍👌
Have a 2017 rcf and im 27 love my car so much
Will I be ok with rwd in the east coast? Also, how’s maintenance? Looking to get a 2023; will be trading in a c43
@@Paul-ii9vu depends on what part of the east but i live in ny so I experience all the extremes so not too bad, but general maintenance isnt too bad usually oil change like $150 , diff fluid change like $200 , transmission fluid change like also $200, new rotors and brake pads are like $1000 , also you need some good tires which will run like $1400+ as far as other problems keep in mind its a lexus its dependable and reliable but once something does go out , its expensive.
Lexus is just such a great brand!
They're getting way too less recognition than they deserve!
Beautiful cars with such a great build quality, great motors and best reliability.
for the used rcf being in the 40k's, that's the price for the 15-19 models, not 20+, 20+ models still go for 60k-70k used.
Just got a 22 RCF in flare yellow..couldn't find a 23 in this color😢.. love the car put a catback exhaust on its a beast. Nothing like it..
Just wrap it ^^
Love the car for what it is, and not what it isn’t. There’s no arguing that the Japanese produce some of the best quality and reliable vehicles on the road. It doesn’t need a turbo or less weight, it’s got a great design and a n/a v8 which it’s competitors have backed away from a decade ago. The fact that this car is even available in 2024 from a conservative car manufacturer is surprising and we should consider ourselves lucky.
I wish I got the RC F 2023, I got an IS 500 but the bumper issue is a headache. Some chassis issue for sure and idk how it will last through the time. Im thinking of an RC F now.
As a cooks corner local that was awesome you did that! Great review.
LOVE my 2020. NO carbon package but have all the other cool bits like cooled seats, heated wheel, etc. 1000% agree with your logic of keeping it simple and reliable but still having the "gut" feel that makes it so much fun w/o all of the worries over bits breaking because they are overengineered.
Since you skipped the Carbon Package, you'll save big on parts.
Was thinking the same thing :) Thinking about adding a few aftermarket bits of CF though. @@signoresantinoburnett1169
I own an RCF CF/TVD similar to the one in the video spec'ed at over $90K. In reali life, actually it still holds up really well today even on the track against M cars I never get embarrassed by any comparable turbo sports car on the track while retaining the high-revving V8 soundtrack. A driver who really knows how to extract all of the performance from the chassis and engine, will thoroughly enjoy it on the track. While not necessarily best in a particular area, it is a great do-everything car. In the used market, something to beware of is that there are a lot of RCFs below $40K that have been abused badly by multiple previous users and accidents as well as poor maintenance records so the higher mileage below $45K are mostly poorly kept RCFs with lots of issues. Regarding the weight, even a BMW M2 is now nearly 3850 - 3900 lbs so with all of the track oriented equipment, chassis reinforcement and luxury, it seems to be heavy, but driving dynamics wise and power to weight wise sum of its parts is very current despite being so dated. Not sure why LC500 needs to overshadow every RCF review? Apples to oranges driving experience, really. The LC500 as I had said in the previous video, is a very different car. RCF was meant to compete with the M4. LC is not a do-everything car. It i focused to be a grand touring, luxury and halo car. It is much softer and is about 400+ lbs heavier with the same power and also does not have track oriented hardware like cooling systems etc. on it. LC500 transmission is too big to fit in the RCF and also does not have the cooling systems in it. It tends to overheat on the track very easily. Not to mention, while the 10 speed has better shift logic in auto mode, in manual mode at maximum attack, AISIN claims RCF's 8 speed shifts at 100 ms compared to LC500's 120 ms according to AISIN.
There is no way the aisin 8 speed is anywhere near as fast as the 10 speed. I've had that 8 speed before. It's serviceable but it's slow.
@@hamsterbrigade At full attack, they are very close. AISIN itself says max attack shift time is 100 ms for the AA80E in the RCF and 120 ms for the 10 speed in LC500. That is only talking about manual mode, redline shifts in SPORT+. Overall, the 10 speed is better since it has better shift logic in auto mode and also better shifting part-throttle (smoother). I have driven LC500 extensively and really liked the transmission better shifting at 4000 rpm as it is more responsive/reactive and less jerky than the my RCF version of the 8 speed. RCF 8 speed completely changes character once in SPORT+ and shifting at redline in manual mode and is crazy aggressive at redline in manual mode. On my channel, I Dragy GPS data posted and, in my acceleration, run telemetry graphs, the power is so continuous through shifts in the RCF 8 speed that the GPS graph does not even register a disruption.
@@2ZZGE100I think the LC's trans has a little less lag when using the paddles, but the actual shifts do seem faster in the 8-speed.
@@ARentz07 Yes, that is true. The RR Racing ECU tune almost completely eliminates any lag between the paddle actuation and the actual shift.
@@hamsterbrigadedo your research. You’re wrong.
I drive Lexus RC 200t 2017 F sport
Your car looks amazing!
Great video
something about the lexus V8 is so soothing. mmmm
Ive have yet to see any of these for mid 30k, most of these are 2015 models with 65k plus miles for 45k.
Carbon package gives you the CF front splitter, roof, interior bits, rear spoiler, rear diffuser, and black GSF wheels. When I bought my 2020, that option was $10k but didn't include wheels. Now it's $17k and includes wheels. You don't have to get the CF package in order to get heated steering wheel/seats..etc. That's part of the preium package. Fun note. You can ONLY get Flare Yellow on the RCF that includes the CF package. For whatever reason Lexus/Toyota deemed that in Flare Yellow you had to also spend the $17k more...lol. But, you can get a RC350 in flare yellow no problem. Seems really odd. I'm assuming it's because they figured it would be too much yellow (front lip, roof, spoiler and rear diffuser)? Also note that on the 2023's they did away with the TVD rear differential option. This used to be an option that was included with the pre-face lifted RCF's if you got the carbon/performance package. Then they made it a separate option in 2020. So you could have a TVD without carbon, or get the carbon package with TVD...etc.
Nice thing is, rarely do I see another RCF on the road. People still think my 2015 is new. Every other car I see is a Ford/Chevy/Tesla/Toyota
thats a sign of a good design if people think ur car is new. Since u said urs was a 2015, that means its pre-facelift, right? That ones been around for 10 years already.
Another great review! I absolutely love the POV vids, because you get to see how another person pilots the car. When I'm up at the mini-Tail of the Dragon here in North Georgia, I also stay within gears 2 and 3 to keep the powerband dialed up. Smart move keeping the car at least in Sport mode around town. If you're a moderately spirited driver, Normal and ECO modes will drive you batcrap insane. 😀 I'm super spirited, so my IS 500 is driven 99% of the time in Manual and Sport S+. 😈 Thanks for posting!
The naturally aspirated V8 and Lexus quality puts it above any competitors.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. A TOTALLY AWSOME VIDEO AND EDUCATION. THANKS FOR SHARING. I LEARNED A LOT.
I adore my rc f it’s gorgeous and so fun to drive I honestly like it better than the lc it’s an is coupe which is what I always wanted amazing car and mine is modified north of 500 hp beast
Wish they made the headlights like the is500
Wooww love the interior and the new higher screen placement, more interactive and inviting looking rather than the deeply set style in the years prior
Literally love this car. Love my IS500. Didn’t love my LC500. But yet I want an RC-F 2nd car beside my IS…
This platform with a V8 & the most modernized tech is truly an ideal driver. So good.
Why didn't you like the LC500?
@@hamsterbrigade Awkward big heavy coupe, hard to use daily or in normal use. Tiny trunk. Rough ride & lurchy banging unrefined transmission. Beautiful art piece that’s a bit hard to live with if you actually need to use the car. My IS500 is lighter, smoother, far nicer to toss around & use, just not as much of an art piece but I don’t care.
Im partial, but the gen 1 styling just looks better. Its more aggressive yet theres a sense of elegance to it.
This isn't a great track car stock, but swap out for coilivers and solid LCA bushings and it handles really well. Ive been to Laguna, THill, and Sonoma Raceway with this thing and it rips. I suffers on straights a bit with more powerful cars. Handling wise its a gem. Absolutely amazing.
I love it and I’m keeping my orange fbo tuned rcf
I have a 2016 and looking to upgrade to the newer model..superb car imo
Charlie, The sacrifices you make to bring these videos to SUBSCRIBERS have never been greater. 😉😉😁 On a more serious note, I wish Lexus would offer a manual transmission like some competitors still do.
Ive told countless people who want to get the CLA45 AMG to PLEASE get the RC F instead. Ignore the dumb 3 prong badge and get the better car. The merc will fall apart and depreciate like a rock past warranty period, cost out the ass to maintain while the RC F costs as much as a camry to maintain, holds its value a lot better and is far far far more reliable.
Great review. I think you’re spot-on with prioritizing feel and fun over specs. And this thing looks killer in yellow. Wish the calipers were also yellow, but that’s just me. :)
Those other cars break and in the shop all the time as I’ve owned many ! I decided over this to buy a LC 500 and absolutely love it !!! 130,000 Canadian, great video and thanks .
This used to be a heavy car, mine right now weighs 3860 pounds, still chunky but not bad by todays standards
I AGREE WITH YOU 100% ON EVERYTHING. OLS SCHOOL IS ALWAYS CLASSIC.
The biggest thing is the reliability
I’m kinda salty these were a bargain pre covid on the used market not anymore 😭
Could you please mention what track did you track this lexus in michigan? I own a rcf and would love a track day
Gingerman Raceway, good track for this car
Love the video I recently got a Lexus rc f worked and it’s magnificent I love everything about it u nailed it with this video
Would love to know more about this Christ and Cars! I'm also in SoCal and would love to join these meets!
Dream first car soon❤️
You can pick one up at $75k, the carbon package is nice to have but absolutely not necessary for that price. Would I pick this over a M4 or RS5, yes if I keep them for a long time. The M4 and RS5 are a maintenance pit after warranty. These Lexus will keep going day in and day out.
The color is cool and its more reliable than a BMW or Mercedes.
This reminds me playing Test Drive on PC in California map 😂
I was eyeing a 2020 but the 2023 touch screen is big for me. The touch pad seems okay but sometimes I just wann click straight to what I want. Hoping to see the 23 model drop around 55k and I’ll pick one up!
I pick up his little brother in June the IS500 and love everything about it, thing is you will hardly see another one while you driving it, only car worth to buy from Lexus are LC 500, RCF and the IS500
As the owner of two LS’s, I beg to differ!
I had a 1st gen is300 5spd and LS430. Loved them both, but don’t forget about the GS-F. Super underrated
My dream: to race in this car against another at a car race.
Can’t beat reliability plus these cars are rare. You don’t see one every day
Putting aside the price, I've also loved the RCF, the only thing I hate or dislike about it is literally no manual. Imagine how amazing that car would be. But that's the smallest nitpick I can find for it.
I wonder how much Yamaha sound trickle down from the lfa this car got alongside its big brother (lc500).
i think there are manual swap kits but you really need to want it done. Not the easiest and not very cheap either.
Good video podrías hacer un video por que es tan expensive el lexus Rcf
I kinda like the wheel color. In thinking to paint my RC wheel like that.
The price has bloated way too much for a car that hasn't actually been updated in 9 years. Just buy a used one for a hell of a lot less $$
Also the Lexus keeps its value after 100000 miles and still running strong. Other cars lost 70% of its values after 100000 miles or you always keep it in the garage.
I wish they upgraded the cd player to sacd and DVD audio hifi audo disc
Max I’d pay for this car is 65 ish. More like 60k MSRP, and I still can’t believe this car comes with a CD player. Cmon Lexus, get with the damn times. 91k and I could walk out of a Porsche dealership with a Taycan key.
Great car, the transmission is a let down. I don't mind the weight or how old the tech is. Just the transmission... could be so much better and faster on downshifts to enjoy the fun.
Beautiful car and shop time sucks. The single CD player, and especially the clock that should be in a Rolls are warts I couldn’t handle.
91k i rather get a used LC500 with a better exaust note, more styling.
why lexus did you ever think it was a good idea to slap the tablet on the dash like that. looked so good intergrated.
I don’t know how to explain it i had the isf and the rcf and mark my words i drove a m3 and acura tlx type s and my go to is my lexus it’s going stir up some shit bit n/a v8 for a daily miss me with the bs like i always say catch me if you can 🤣
Beautiful car. But at that price range I want an AWD option and more HP.
Awesome car! But way too expensive for me. I'll just stick to driving this car in forza! 🤣
U can find them for much cheaper but might have to get it out of state
Can’t nobody boast Lexus or Toyota reliability on a track when they had 3x in a row epic losses in Le Mans due to mechanical failures on the last lap. Shit hurts
"This is the right amount of power to be able to use in daily driving" says a guy using maybe 50% of the power.
great but still don't get the price for it lol. 91K !!!!?????
LEXUS RCF cost WAYYYY TOO MUCH BRAND NEW
If Im buying a 91k RCF, the last thing I want is "light steering." Save that for the base models.
Why are people saying this car isn’t fast. Aren’t all v8 cars fast?
I've got a V-8 truck that would very much disagree :D
@@DailyMotor maybe cause the truck is very heavy
Yeah... If I'm spending $91K + on a sports car. It won't be this...🤷♂️
A CD...really...Im 55 yrs old...thats old tech in a car...come on Lexus...
Nothing wrong with having a CD player
90,000 you might as well get an m3 lmao still a sick car tho
I don’t consider Lexus a car, it’s an instrument that requires human behind to operate.
Your jab at the mustang costing almost 60k while driving an underpowered 90k lexus won't age well.
CD player in 2023 car? Seriously?
I think it looks okay and I like the V8 but the Toyota Camry interior is a fail
Can't you get a camaro ss 1le for half that price, that does quite literally everything better than this lexus?
Still watching, I have to add that is the ugliest interior I have ever seen on a car
You can. Your settling for more power than quality though
Reliability...
@@molomomo3743 not a problem, you never have chevy
You want simple? Take out that stupid monitor and all that extra app crap.
There are more sportier cars, or more luxurious coupes, or faster track cars and all for a LOT cheaper. As a Lexus fan for over 20 years I have to keep it real, unlike this video where I am sure they were provided the car by Lexus. The car hasn't changed in a decade (for god sake it has a CD player). The only reason to get one is if you are truly nostalgic for a v8 and love the look of the car. I pray Lexus can innovate with its next iteration, but considering the EV trend, I think the RCF's days are numbered.
They promised us the LFA and we ended up with this potato
LC500 >> this
too many buttons lol
The driving experience in other cars are better though I don't get the string of excuses being made. I don't understand what Lexus fanatics have against them making a new vehicle. Watching this review is just sad. This car is just outdated beyond belief at this point. What would be the problem with this engine in a new vehicle? Even other Lexus models are way better inside than this.
True F enthusiasts are wanting a new F car. Lexus doesn’t seem interested in making another one though. Not a single update of anything in the works. I love the RCF, I have one, but it’s a last generation sports car.
Lmao your in all the Lexus comments I’m a bmw at heart but damn I can’t go no where without seeing your comment 🤣🤣🤣
@@joedouglas2736 😂
Yeah, after having mine for 8 years now, I'm getting the itch to get something new, especially when I see the performance of the new M3/4 both stock and just with a tune. I struggle with that though because this car just works and would easily last me the rest of my life without a loss in performance (I only drive about 5k miles a year).
Whenever I take it to get an oil change or annual inspection, mechanics always tell me that the car is awesome and to KEEP IT!
@@originaljunglist93 keep it. RCF is going to be worth a decent amount of money in a few years imo.
Why still v8 that old engine from Yamaha
rx ML review?????
Sorry, that vehicle isn't worth 91K. I like the V-8s just like everyone else but, unless u just want a 2-door, the IS 500 is a much better choice. A 91K Lexus pushing only 472 HP, is not a bargain.
Not to mention it's totally outdated in every single way. The car is joke at this point. The excuses and BS made to give this car a pass are just hysterical.
Agree
Even less worth it when you consider a LC500 is what, $15k more? If you have $91k of disposable income, chances are you have $106k of disposable income.
67k is the msrp
I own an is500 and owned an RCF they are TWO different type of cars other than if your looking at the “spec sheet”