Adrienne has grown so much since this show started. She is more confident than she was before and you can hear it in her tone when she speaks and I love it
Loni is right. People talk about this alpha and beta like it's a real thing. Its not. People are dynamic and multi dimensional and maturity will dictate how you behave.
Give me a break. Alpha is yet used to describe masculinity. There are thousands of beautiful women but a high status man is a rare thing. Let me ask you, would a high value man want a competitive masculine female. Hell no. He can choose any women he wants and why would he choose a combative dude.
Loni is so right. I hate those labels. Alpha. Beta. Why is it ok for the man to be the alpha but when a woman is one she is seen in a negative way. That is what I am always hearing and seeing about these labels. If we are betas then we are most likely seen as being weaker. I think these labels need to stop and are so outdated. This is just an old school way of thinking and we need newer and better ways. I like what loni said about changing for each other. It keeps each other equal and there’s no issue or competition.
It’s ok for men to be alpha because those are the men that most women want to be with and most men look up too and take seriously. Women don’t want or respect a man they consider to be a beta just look at all these people calling there husbands beta. How many times have you seen a men say my wife is the beta of our family and I love it. Never because we want women to be feminine and submissive.
Why do women expect a man to protect and provide for her, even on the first date? Why does Adrienne like older men? Because biology and instinct. Just like women don't want to date feminine short poor men, men don't want masculine disagreeable women.
Because its natural for a man to be Alpha and many women find that attractive. (mind you, I'm not talking about abusive gym rats but confident men who have their work, health, and personal relationships in balance). Alpha traits in men attract women, but Alpha traits in women don't attract men. The opposite is true, softness, weaknesses, vulnerability and relying on others is more of a feminine trait, it attracts men but women in general aren't attracted to such a man and such men are viewed negatively.
We all have both feminine and masculine qualities in us. We all need to find that balance it makes life so much easier! You gonna keep going through life lessons till you work on the side you are lacking!
This is the second topic Garcelle reminds me of Sunny on The View in the sense that they both actually read all the documentation, articles and all. I love and respect that. Some co-hosts just show up, reading the headlines and cue cards
The most frustrating misunderstanding is that a career woman is an “alpha woman.” I am that way with my CAREER. With relationships, absolutely not. I prefer to be led and submit and not have to think about asserting myself in the home. 🤷🏿♀️
People have the feeling because when the women has a career especially when she makes more than the dude they have this you can’t tell me nothing blah blah blah and they damn near become the man of the house. On top of that this myth that people can just turn there femininity on and off if crazy and everyone knows that because you don’t hear men saying I will be masculine for the right women he would get clowned out of existence.
@@rafaeljohnson6220 You have women who are all-round leaders and they definitely need a beta man. What she said is true though. Many women can balance both. You don't hear men saying they are beta because in what situation would that make sense? Women have to tap into their masculine traits in their careers in order to survive.
@@englishwithlam I never said either of these 2 didn’t exist. I said beta men aren’t taken seriously or respected by society especially there girlfriend and wives and women who are “leaders” it’s just the masculine and feminine relationship just the roles switched. Women can’t balance both for the most part and they know it. Especially when they make more money than the man and have to put in more financially. Women say all the time that men can’t expect a women to be in her most feminine presence if she is working and have to pay for things in the house. Men are called beta for doing beta things all the time. Even if they don’t get called beta they usually called weak, emasculated etc etc women don’t have to tap into there masculine traits if they can’t be themselves in a job then they don’t need to be there.
@@nrivera3604 I do agree that the terms are getting outta hand. But there has always been terms to describe men that women flock to and take more seriously then your average joe.
Omg! Jeannie described it perfectly with when other alphas are around. Everyone notices that about me. If there are other alphas around I will take the backseat. Sometimes you don’t always want to be the one in charge.
Thank God for Loni 🙌🏽 I definitely think it is partner dependent. We’ve seen so many changes throughout the season especially with Jeannie and Adrienne and how they got to this point now. It was definitely circumstantial. Just do what’s right for you and what works lol
I agree with Loni but there’s also personally types. There are people that are clearly more outspoken naturally and others that feel more comfortable leaning back.
My Soror better come through! Delta is the symbol for change. 🔺 And I love Jeannie’s take on the fact that you change it certain situations by letting other people take over. This is so true and often times I find myself in situations wishing I didn’t always have to be “on”
2:49 I agree with Jeannie. At work I am a boss in every way. I act, walk, talk with authority. But when I am with a man I want to be soft juxtaposed to his hardness (masculinity). Four of my five relationships I had to be Alpha because the men I was with were each soft 24-7. I hated it!😫 Right now my inner circle of girlfriends are each alpha busiess women, and like Jeannie, it allows me to sit back and just be me. I can just chill.
Preach girl. I want to be soft, pretty, aloof and light hearted buuuuttt I’ve been in my masculine energy for too long I’ve forgotten how 🤷🏼♀️ I can’t allow myself to be too sub, can’t rely on guys
@@kenziej4301 your either feminine or your not its not a button you just turn off an on. That’s like a man saying the right women is gonna make me wanna be more masculine. Women would laugh at that dude and would take him seriously and it’s the same thing for women.
I am the same at work. So when I tell persons at work I love to watch the Real, they are shocked. They probably don't see how my personality correlates with the show. What they don't know is I learn a lot from this show and I love confident women and these ladies are very confident and opinionated. They have emboldened me to be more confident.
Ok miss Loni engineer 👏🏾👏🏾 come thru with the new terminology; DELTA, women of change-I ❤️ it! Women are multifaceted, men too, and there is often a negative connotation attributed to Alfa women and a negative connotation attributed to Beta male; but each of us are Delta, then we adjust our roles as the circumstances require. You don’t have to be on all the time, it’s nice to allow someone else to lead sometimes.
Jeannie just explained healthy submission. That's definitely how I want my marriage to function. I'll be an alpha at work and chill when I get home lol.
Marriage does not work without humility and selflessness on both sides, regardless of your personality in other social situations. You need both the capability to lead and the patience to follow at the appropriate times.
i love Loni and i dont know what it is about unmarried women that makes me never wanna get married, i resonate so much with their thoughts and who they are. I love that she is on this show, what a rational thinker
@@godsgirl7201 You’re probably not a man so maybe you don’t understand that most men don’t want their wife telling the world they’re a beta. The context doesn’t matter. She might as well have called him a bitch because that’s how that term is perceived.
I agree with loni. The labels come with certain expectations that may not be true for a person, its annoying. Havent we learned not to put people in a box? People are complex and layered
My ex wanted me to lead and since I’m not a lesbian … and he wanted to rest in his feminine energy as a man… so I got rid of him. He got tired of doing manly things, like working 😐 and leading… he wanted me to provide, profess and protect and make decisions and plans while he did nothing…. I got rid of him 🤷🏽♀️😅😂😂😂
I think what these ladies are forgetting is that alpha men (mainly guys with money) are able to attract younger/ pretty women who are willing to be compliant to their demands in exchange for granting them “access” to their assets (ie via gifts etc). On the other hand a lot of independent / self sufficient women aren’t willing to settle for a man who isn’t at or above their “level” in terms of looks and wealth etc. I don’t necessarily think that men are intimidated of “alpha” women (ie women with money). I’m pretty sure that some men stay away from alpha women because they know that if they were with one- they’d probably get dominated, have minimal say on thing and not be able to benefit from their female partners wealth and so forth because in society men are suppose to be the “providers” and those who are unable to are often frowned upon.
Did Adrian just call her husband a beta male? Are you kidding me! Literally just destroyed your husband. That is for guys one of the worst things he could be called. It is not a compliment it's an insult
I don’t believe in the alpha/beta argument when it comes to relationships. What I’ve noticed is that opposites truly attract, and the people I’ve seen in those relationships have sustained the long game because it is always interesting. When you are with someone who is exactly like you, it’s not exciting. Because what are you gaining from that relationship that is new? Nothing. So having someone who can offer a give/take in a sense and introduce you to a different point of view in life is what counts. I think of this all the time when I hear people say that their husband or wife was the complete opposite of what they typically go for. So I don’t think it’s about dominance rather a mutual respect and understanding of the differences you share.
What I’ve found is that similar values and ethics attract each other. And the ways in which we carry out those values may be different. If people differ on money or raising kids, that could dead a relationship. But if they have the same ideals on major things and just subtle differences, It works best.
This is true, but you’re not acknowledging that most men and women are basically opposites. Women, by large, are more agreeable, soft spoken, dependant, overtly emotional, meek, submissive, etc. Men are stronger, more independent, better leaders, emotionally closed off, less nurturing (towards children), etc. You see, gender roles have always and will always continue to exist. What I as a guy cannot stand is when women lie and say they want a man who’s “in touch with their feminine side”, or “an equal relationship”. Women don’t actually want that. How can a person who instinctively sees you as a protector, provider, leader, and primary breadwinner/decision maker possibly want to be “equal” to you. Women want a man who is more masculine than she is, and these traits are masculine.
That’s fuckery/fiction. Opposites never attract, it never lasts, it only ends up being lust and short term. That’s a low quality worldly relationshit. U gotta be on the same frequency and everything like Obama and Michelle, The Clinton’s, John Legend and his wife. Ciara and her husband. They must be heading in the same direction like a river. Or else you’re settling like 99% of failed, nowhere marriages and relationships.
The only one of these women who is actually an alpha female is Jeannie. Everyone else is beta. And the only reason why Jeannie is so much more submissive now is because she found her alpha match in her current husband. That is what happens when an alpha female meets an alpha male. They relinquish control because of the respect that they have for their alpha male. And a relationship with a beta does not yield the same level of respect, as evidenced by Jeannie’s first marriage. Loni and Garcelle are not alphas, they have just been hurt too many times in life and it has hardened them. Adrienne is not an alpha, she’s just a NYer. There’s a difference between being a strong, intelligent and confident woman vs. being an alpha woman.
I think you give up some control as an Aloha because you know the other person got it. They’re taking care of it, getting it done, thinking it through. You can completely trust them.
@@TrueOrigins1618 Yeah, exactly. It’s a respect thing. When you respect someone, you completely trust that they know what they are doing and you can rely on their judgement and opinion, you can just REST. You feel safe enough to let go. But it works both ways. With Jeannie being an alpha, I’m sure Jeezy also has complete trust in her leadership and ability in a multitude of areas as well. He knows Jeannie can handle her business too!
@@yonce2347 No, I think Adrienne is a beta female married to an alpha male. I think Adrienne doesn’t really understand what an alpha / beta is. She thinks because Israel is nice, soft spoken, and is super considerate of her feelings that he is beta but those qualities have nothing to do with being a beta. Those are things any person would do for someone they love. Alpha / beta is purely about leadership and mental strength. Israel is the leader of his home with Adrienne. He is the mentally strong one. He will take charge in all areas that he deems important enough to take charge in. A lot of women mistakenly believe that they are married to a beta male because their husbands are “easy going” with things like where they go to dinner or what they wear, etc but thats because most men don’t care about minor things like that. However, an alpha male, when it comes to his values, and things that are important to him and his home, he will put his foot down and take charge. And that seems like Israel to me. This is going strictly off of my observation of them though and things Adrienne has said about their marriage on the show. I don’t know them personally.
I’m an alpha male so it’s hard for me to date any alpha … it turns me off completely… but in a friendship situation I can easily let go and let others lead …
Can we stop saying men are “afraid” and “intimidated” just because they have a PREFERENCE? Gets on my nerves. If a man has a preference for a more submissive woman, then to each their own! I personally have a preference for an Alfa male, that doesn’t mean im intimidated to date a beta male , it’s just my preference. 🙄
@@virginia4766 all women of all types have a chance of getting abused so that’s not true. Who cares why are we attracted to those women. What we are attracted to is none of your business. I don’t see women getting shamed for waiting a man who is 6 feet who makes 6 figures even though almost nobody meets those requirements but the second a men wanted a feminine women who is submissive it’s a problem.
He should go and find that type of woman. Problem is, people want women to stop being who they naturally are so they can appeal to men. That's not the answer either.
Exactly. "Oh! Weak men can't handle me!" "He wanted a doormat that cleaned and cooked!" If some men want women who are housewives or more submissive and softer, that's their preference. If I or any woman can have a long list of what we want from men, men can have preferences too.
I think having those alpha qualities in your workplace and home life setting up your home your domain and sanctuary is necessary in some cases. You need to pull those qualities out in your work environment to thrive. It's true women we have layers. It's like having 6 to 10 people you have to turn into to get the job done yet it's one you. It's hard to describe it's like we know how to switch it on, adapt, and change.
I think assertive would suit it best. Alpha seems narrow in terms on perspective when in hindsight women are quite diverse in ability to assert and play the support roles
See Jeani KNOWS What SHES DOING ! That's why she got the brother she got.. Sistas, y'all need to lay back and let a alpha male be an alpha male and oead
Don't follow your self be wise Lady ok have a good time and don't tempt me again ruin trust in gone to damn far so don't ruin in the deep ok be wise up 👍👏
Don't think there is a thing called alpha woman outside the US - my friends who have tried to be alpha have had a HARD time finding a man who would want that energy long term...
I'm a Alpha female..but my husband is Beta man ..and I love it but when it comes to sometimes when he needs to bring out his alpha he brings it out and I love when he brings it out.
@@madridista703usa3 No actually I don't have a pushover I have a man that loves me he cares about me he's an alpha when he needs to be .... But thank you for acknowledging my post 👍
The fact that you just came out and public and just embarrassed your husband and called him a beta doesn’t make you an alpha it makes you an a-hole I hope he leaves your ass and find and women who treats him with respect.
Sometimes I feel like Adrianne lives in her own fantasy, I am not saying this for her, BUT a lot of the time women that talk like that about her marrice end up like clows, I'm just saying
@adrienne you should have your own talk show. I only watched this show because of Adrienne and Tamara. I do like Loni and Jeannie. I miss the old cast.
Alpha and Beta are terms to describe controlling and cooperative tendencies, respectively. There is nothing strong or submissive about these attitudes and behaviors.
🤣 Garc. Needs to just relax and let an Alpha Male take lead. She needs to tap into feminine energy. Let him be the man and lead. Alpha man and Alpha woman can definitely work
I dont think its an alpha woman thing anymore. I think thats most of us modern women's problem. We're way too independent and not only that most of us dont know how to listen in a relationship. Not do what our man says but 'listen' in general. Men always wanna not even argue because it'll turn into a fight cause we always got something to say cause we always have to be right😅 men love to feel valued, needed. I think some of these men need to get with the program though. They shouldnt be intimidated, or emasculated. Beta males and Omega males are the best period. For real haha. Too bad there arent much of em left it seems like...
Sense the alpha term have masculinity traits, and women want to be masculine when they want to , then let me as man be feminine when I want to , let me wear a dress , lip stick & heels out in public but when I come home I take it off and become masculine again. and notice I never said I was gay , I just wanted to wear lip stick and a dress because I wanted to. You guys think my girl will still want me if she knew I was doing these things? And that's how men look at alpha females. and if we can agree that women and men are not the same then you can agree that a woman attractivness is different from a man's attractiveness so you can not say this example is not the same. NOT DISAGREEING OR AGREEING WITH THE VIDEO BUT GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS.
Please don't cancel the show. I love it. The women are great, informative, insightful and entertaining.
To late old hags heading down the drain
Where there talks of canceling the show?
@@sirkkahedimbi931 yes..loni said that this season will still be filmed though and then lets see
@@bgirldiamondz girl what
I love Garcelle.
Adrienne has grown so much since this show started. She is more confident than she was before and you can hear it in her tone when she speaks and I love it
That’s normally how it is on the job u start with low confidence then when u learn the ropes ur more confident
True
Early 30s compared to late 30s is a huge jump in growth I think
I think she's more comfortable around this crew.Like Garcelle seems to be easy to work with.
She really is she’s youngest one thrrr the other woman are in theirs 50s and Jeanie 40s. While she’s youngest one 36/37 at best 38
Loni is right. People talk about this alpha and beta like it's a real thing. Its not. People are dynamic and multi dimensional and maturity will dictate how you behave.
Jeannie sure did change.She didn't want to have children with her first husband. But now she's a mom with Jeezy as husband.
Nope alpha and beta are real check out The Business TH-cam channel he explains that
its definitely a thing. A spectrum
Give me a break. Alpha is yet used to describe masculinity. There are thousands of beautiful women but a high status man is a rare thing. Let me ask you, would a high value man want a competitive masculine female. Hell no. He can choose any women he wants and why would he choose a combative dude.
Loni came through with the scientific explanation of this conversation. Great conversations.
Loni is so right. I hate those labels. Alpha. Beta. Why is it ok for the man to be the alpha but when a woman is one she is seen in a negative way. That is what I am always hearing and seeing about these labels. If we are betas then we are most likely seen as being weaker. I think these labels need to stop and are so outdated. This is just an old school way of thinking and we need newer and better ways. I like what loni said about changing for each other. It keeps each other equal and there’s no issue or competition.
It’s ok for men to be alpha because those are the men that most women want to be with and most men look up too and take seriously. Women don’t want or respect a man they consider to be a beta just look at all these people calling there husbands beta. How many times have you seen a men say my wife is the beta of our family and I love it. Never because we want women to be feminine and submissive.
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Why do women expect a man to protect and provide for her, even on the first date? Why does Adrienne like older men? Because biology and instinct. Just like women don't want to date feminine short poor men, men don't want masculine disagreeable women.
Because its natural for a man to be Alpha and many women find that attractive. (mind you, I'm not talking about abusive gym rats but confident men who have their work, health, and personal relationships in balance). Alpha traits in men attract women, but Alpha traits in women don't attract men. The opposite is true, softness, weaknesses, vulnerability and relying on others is more of a feminine trait, it attracts men but women in general aren't attracted to such a man and such men are viewed negatively.
i always cringe at ppl saying “alpha male” or “beta male” lol
Me too. cringe
Cause it’s some bull lol
I thought I was the only one
We all have both feminine and masculine qualities in us. We all need to find that balance it makes life so much easier! You gonna keep going through life lessons till you work on the side you are lacking!
This is the second topic Garcelle reminds me of Sunny on The View in the sense that they both actually read all the documentation, articles and all. I love and respect that. Some co-hosts just show up, reading the headlines and cue cards
I don’t like labeling people alpha or beta, it’s weird and lowkey disrespectful
Low-key mama
exactly especially in a relationship I don't want to lead or follow I a conversation that we both can have a voice in.
Yall call anything disrespectful.
@@nottoday6459 🙄 thank you for this unnecessary comment…
@@babygirl4949 it's a comment section. Anyone can comment what they want no matter what you think. Use your brain
The most frustrating misunderstanding is that a career woman is an “alpha woman.” I am that way with my CAREER. With relationships, absolutely not. I prefer to be led and submit and not have to think about asserting myself in the home. 🤷🏿♀️
People have the feeling because when the women has a career especially when she makes more than the dude they have this you can’t tell me nothing blah blah blah and they damn near become the man of the house. On top of that this myth that people can just turn there femininity on and off if crazy and everyone knows that because you don’t hear men saying I will be masculine for the right women he would get clowned out of existence.
@@rafaeljohnson6220 You have women who are all-round leaders and they definitely need a beta man. What she said is true though. Many women can balance both. You don't hear men saying they are beta because in what situation would that make sense? Women have to tap into their masculine traits in their careers in order to survive.
It’s an ego thing. And these terms need to be labeled better. Too many terms and confusion
@@englishwithlam I never said either of these 2 didn’t exist. I said beta men aren’t taken seriously or respected by society especially there girlfriend and wives and women who are “leaders” it’s just the masculine and feminine relationship just the roles switched. Women can’t balance both for the most part and they know it. Especially when they make more money than the man and have to put in more financially. Women say all the time that men can’t expect a women to be in her most feminine presence if she is working and have to pay for things in the house. Men are called beta for doing beta things all the time. Even if they don’t get called beta they usually called weak, emasculated etc etc women don’t have to tap into there masculine traits if they can’t be themselves in a job then they don’t need to be there.
@@nrivera3604 I do agree that the terms are getting outta hand. But there has always been terms to describe men that women flock to and take more seriously then your average joe.
Omg! Jeannie described it perfectly with when other alphas are around. Everyone notices that about me. If there are other alphas around I will take the backseat. Sometimes you don’t always want to be the one in charge.
Too much alpha in a relationship at home it can be toxic. I rather both parties should know when to tone down, I totally agree with loni
Anybody going around calling themselves an "Alpha" or whatever is going to have problems with everyone else regardless of the situation
😂😂😂
Thank God for Loni 🙌🏽 I definitely think it is partner dependent. We’ve seen so many changes throughout the season especially with Jeannie and Adrienne and how they got to this point now. It was definitely circumstantial. Just do what’s right for you and what works lol
I agree with Loni but there’s also personally types. There are people that are clearly more outspoken naturally and others that feel more comfortable leaning back.
I cringed when Adrienne said Israel is beta
My Soror better come through! Delta is the symbol for change. 🔺 And I love Jeannie’s take on the fact that you change it certain situations by letting other people take over. This is so true and often times I find myself in situations wishing I didn’t always have to be “on”
2:49 I agree with Jeannie. At work I am a boss in every way. I act, walk, talk with authority. But when I am with a man I want to be soft juxtaposed to his hardness (masculinity). Four of my five relationships I had to be Alpha because the men I was with were each soft 24-7. I hated it!😫
Right now my inner circle of girlfriends are each alpha busiess women, and like Jeannie, it allows me to sit back and just be me. I can just chill.
And girl same in all of what you wrote
Women: I want a man who is intuned with his emotionss
Also women:
Preach girl. I want to be soft, pretty, aloof and light hearted buuuuttt I’ve been in my masculine energy for too long I’ve forgotten how 🤷🏼♀️ I can’t allow myself to be too sub, can’t rely on guys
@@kenziej4301 your either feminine or your not its not a button you just turn off an on. That’s like a man saying the right women is gonna make me wanna be more masculine. Women would laugh at that dude and would take him seriously and it’s the same thing for women.
I am the same at work. So when I tell persons at work I love to watch the Real, they are shocked. They probably don't see how my personality correlates with the show. What they don't know is I learn a lot from this show and I love confident women and these ladies are very confident and opinionated. They have emboldened me to be more confident.
🥳🤩🥳 Jeannie's back, y'all!!! 😍😍😍
Ok miss Loni engineer 👏🏾👏🏾 come thru with the new terminology; DELTA, women of change-I ❤️ it! Women are multifaceted, men too, and there is often a negative connotation attributed to Alfa women and a negative connotation attributed to Beta male; but each of us are Delta, then we adjust our roles as the circumstances require. You don’t have to be on all the time, it’s nice to allow someone else to lead sometimes.
Jeannie just explained healthy submission. That's definitely how I want my marriage to function. I'll be an alpha at work and chill when I get home lol.
I love me some Loni Love, she’s so smart and brings wonderful insight to every topic.
*Come through with the powerful wisdom up in here, Ms. Loni Love!!!!!* 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Marriage does not work without humility and selflessness on both sides, regardless of your personality in other social situations. You need both the capability to lead and the patience to follow at the appropriate times.
i love Loni and i dont know what it is about unmarried women that makes me never wanna get married, i resonate so much with their thoughts and who they are. I love that she is on this show, what a rational thinker
Loni is so smart!!!!!!
Every three months they have this conversation
Imagine your wife telling the world that she married a beta lol I’d be sick. The alpha and beta terms are stupid anyway.
And quick af too 😂😂
Right 😭😭😭 she tried to clean it up but the definition of beta is what she means
She literally just described it as a good thing idk why someone would be sick
You would only be sick if you subscribe to the incel definition of alpha and beta which clearly most of us don't 🙃
@@godsgirl7201 You’re probably not a man so maybe you don’t understand that most men don’t want their wife telling the world they’re a beta. The context doesn’t matter. She might as well have called him a bitch because that’s how that term is perceived.
I hate the term alpha lol 😂 especially how people use it nowadays
What Jeannie said is such a Capricorn mindset, turning off the alpha when she’s around other alphas.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Lonnie! If we’re going to have successful relationships we must be able to change not compete with each other.
Loving Garcelle's fit! Jeannie's comment really hit the bullseye.
"You guys are like my third girl group"~ Adrienne 😂😅😊😢 aww Adrienne I can't believe she said that so sweet 🧁
I agree with loni. The labels come with certain expectations that may not be true for a person, its annoying. Havent we learned not to put people in a box? People are complex and layered
My ex wanted me to lead and since I’m not a lesbian … and he wanted to rest in his feminine energy as a man… so I got rid of him. He got tired of doing manly things, like working 😐 and leading… he wanted me to provide, profess and protect and make decisions and plans while he did nothing…. I got rid of him 🤷🏽♀️😅😂😂😂
Cause chile... who? 😂😂😂
There's no such thing as "independent". We all depend on people and things to feel validated and motivated.
cringing at these wolf terms lmaoo
hahhaha
I think what these ladies are forgetting is that alpha men (mainly guys with money) are able to attract younger/ pretty women who are willing to be compliant to their demands in exchange for granting them “access” to their assets (ie via gifts etc).
On the other hand a lot of independent / self sufficient women aren’t willing to settle for a man who isn’t at or above their “level” in terms of looks and wealth etc. I don’t necessarily think that men are intimidated of “alpha” women (ie women with money). I’m pretty sure that some men stay away from alpha women because they know that if they were with one- they’d probably get dominated, have minimal say on thing and not be able to benefit from their female partners wealth and so forth because in society men are suppose to be the “providers” and those who are unable to are often frowned upon.
Adrienne is definitely a beta in her career and an alpha in her relationship!
Loni always changing the subject somehow 😂😅😊😊 it's delta lmaoo 🤣🤣
A healthy human being has all these qualities...if u focus on just one, your relationships are doomed!! Know when to bend n b flexible.
Did Adrian just call her husband a beta male? Are you kidding me! Literally just destroyed your husband. That is for guys one of the worst things he could be called. It is not a compliment it's an insult
Based on the definition no she didn’t. Like what. That’s a compliment
I don’t believe in the alpha/beta argument when it comes to relationships. What I’ve noticed is that opposites truly attract, and the people I’ve seen in those relationships have sustained the long game because it is always interesting. When you are with someone who is exactly like you, it’s not exciting. Because what are you gaining from that relationship that is new? Nothing. So having someone who can offer a give/take in a sense and introduce you to a different point of view in life is what counts. I think of this all the time when I hear people say that their husband or wife was the complete opposite of what they typically go for. So I don’t think it’s about dominance rather a mutual respect and understanding of the differences you share.
What I’ve found is that similar values and ethics attract each other. And the ways in which we carry out those values may be different. If people differ on money or raising kids, that could dead a relationship. But if they have the same ideals on major things and just subtle differences, It works best.
@@kylesummers7449 I agree that’s 100% true.
I've found that opposites attract but rarely last. Only when people have the same outlook, values, morals and path in life can fhey work
This is true, but you’re not acknowledging that most men and women are basically opposites. Women, by large, are more agreeable, soft spoken, dependant, overtly emotional, meek, submissive, etc. Men are stronger, more independent, better leaders, emotionally closed off, less nurturing (towards children), etc.
You see, gender roles have always and will always continue to exist. What I as a guy cannot stand is when women lie and say they want a man who’s “in touch with their feminine side”, or “an equal relationship”. Women don’t actually want that. How can a person who instinctively sees you as a protector, provider, leader, and primary breadwinner/decision maker possibly want to be “equal” to you. Women want a man who is more masculine than she is, and these traits are masculine.
That’s fuckery/fiction. Opposites never attract, it never lasts, it only ends up being lust and short term. That’s a low quality worldly relationshit. U gotta be on the same frequency and everything like Obama and Michelle, The Clinton’s, John Legend and his wife. Ciara and her husband. They must be heading in the same direction like a river. Or else you’re settling like 99% of failed, nowhere marriages and relationships.
The only one of these women who is actually an alpha female is Jeannie. Everyone else is beta. And the only reason why Jeannie is so much more submissive now is because she found her alpha match in her current husband. That is what happens when an alpha female meets an alpha male. They relinquish control because of the respect that they have for their alpha male. And a relationship with a beta does not yield the same level of respect, as evidenced by Jeannie’s first marriage. Loni and Garcelle are not alphas, they have just been hurt too many times in life and it has hardened them. Adrienne is not an alpha, she’s just a NYer. There’s a difference between being a strong, intelligent and confident woman vs. being an alpha woman.
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I think you give up some control as an Aloha because you know the other person got it. They’re taking care of it, getting it done, thinking it through. You can completely trust them.
@@TrueOrigins1618 Yeah, exactly. It’s a respect thing. When you respect someone, you completely trust that they know what they are doing and you can rely on their judgement and opinion, you can just REST. You feel safe enough to let go. But it works both ways. With Jeannie being an alpha, I’m sure Jeezy also has complete trust in her leadership and ability in a multitude of areas as well. He knows Jeannie can handle her business too!
So you think Adrienne is a beta woman who's attracted a beta man?
@@yonce2347 No, I think Adrienne is a beta female married to an alpha male. I think Adrienne doesn’t really understand what an alpha / beta is. She thinks because Israel is nice, soft spoken, and is super considerate of her feelings that he is beta but those qualities have nothing to do with being a beta. Those are things any person would do for someone they love. Alpha / beta is purely about leadership and mental strength. Israel is the leader of his home with Adrienne. He is the mentally strong one. He will take charge in all areas that he deems important enough to take charge in. A lot of women mistakenly believe that they are married to a beta male because their husbands are “easy going” with things like where they go to dinner or what they wear, etc but thats because most men don’t care about minor things like that. However, an alpha male, when it comes to his values, and things that are important to him and his home, he will put his foot down and take charge. And that seems like Israel to me. This is going strictly off of my observation of them though and things Adrienne has said about their marriage on the show. I don’t know them personally.
I’m an alpha male so it’s hard for me to date any alpha … it turns me off completely… but in a friendship situation I can easily let go and let others lead …
Can we stop saying men are “afraid” and “intimidated” just because they have a PREFERENCE? Gets on my nerves. If a man has a preference for a more submissive woman, then to each their own! I personally have a preference for an Alfa male, that doesn’t mean im intimidated to date a beta male , it’s just my preference. 🙄
I think it matters why they are attracted to that though. Is it to manipulate the woman? To have control over her, to abuse her?
@@virginia4766 all women of all types have a chance of getting abused so that’s not true. Who cares why are we attracted to those women. What we are attracted to is none of your business. I don’t see women getting shamed for waiting a man who is 6 feet who makes 6 figures even though almost nobody meets those requirements but the second a men wanted a feminine women who is submissive it’s a problem.
He should go and find that type of woman. Problem is, people want women to stop being who they naturally are so they can appeal to men. That's not the answer either.
Exactly. "Oh! Weak men can't handle me!" "He wanted a doormat that cleaned and cooked!" If some men want women who are housewives or more submissive and softer, that's their preference. If I or any woman can have a long list of what we want from men, men can have preferences too.
Loni!! Well SAID!!!!🙌🏽🔥🔥🔥
I think having those alpha qualities in your workplace and home life setting up your home your domain and sanctuary is necessary in some cases. You need to pull those qualities out in your work environment to thrive. It's true women we have layers. It's like having 6 to 10 people you have to turn into to get the job done yet it's one you. It's hard to describe it's like we know how to switch it on, adapt, and change.
I love how they are changing the terms and and connotations of the words.
I had a man tell me: Seeing a woman act independent is like when a straight woman sees a man in heels (not attractive)
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I love this video!! So much insight!!
I think assertive would suit it best. Alpha seems narrow in terms on perspective when in hindsight women are quite diverse in ability to assert and play the support roles
Jeannie is very Wise beyond her years..She has really Grown
I love Garcelle. She's been through somethings and is down to earth. Gotta love that.
This lady say she married a beta 🤦🏾♂️🤣…embarrassing that man smh!!!
See Jeani KNOWS What SHES DOING ! That's why she got the brother she got.. Sistas, y'all need to lay back and let a alpha male be an alpha male and oead
KEEP THIS SHOW GOING!
Finally, thank you so much Jeanie have just realized am definitely an 'AutoAlpha' ....
Im loving all the outfits! Adrienne looks AMAZING!
Just want to point out that "ALPHA" doesn't actually exist. We really need to remove that word.
Loni with the gems 👏
Love it! Love these women! I loved everything about this segment!
Simply and beautifully put; Women are so multidimensional!!
Is it a cancer thing cause I get on my bfs nerrrvvesss singing and rapping the whole ride 😂
Loni’s answer is chefs kiss
Don't follow your self be wise Lady ok have a good time and don't tempt me again ruin trust in gone to damn far so don't ruin in the deep ok be wise up 👍👏
Loni with the delta lol
I really like the idea of being delta. Alpha Is very cringey to me and sounds exhausting.
Well, if I can't find true love being myself then it's just not for me.
Don't think there is a thing called alpha woman outside the US - my friends who have tried to be alpha have had a HARD time finding a man who would want that energy long term...
@Glory Roads feel sorry for the Americans, hope you guys can get off this weird alpha thought process...it is so beta and thoughtless!
I swear if they end up canceling this show I’m going to riot!!!! 😩😩😩😩
Another GREAT topic👏🏽
I'm a Alpha female..but my husband is Beta man ..and I love it but when it comes to sometimes when he needs to bring out his alpha he brings it out and I love when he brings it out.
You have a push over lol so sorry
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No actually I don't have a pushover I have a man that loves me he cares about me he's an alpha when he needs to be .... But thank you for acknowledging my post 👍
The fact that you just came out and public and just embarrassed your husband and called him a beta doesn’t make you an alpha it makes you an a-hole I hope he leaves your ass and find and women who treats him with respect.
And u gotta respect change that's all 😃
There is different between alpha male and female! female and male are compatible
Loni is so hilarious 😂 but she is correct.
Dang, imma take some Greek lessons lol
Im like Genie but only in recent years have I learned to turn down to allow my man and others to lead where they are strong.
Come through Loni with the scientifics
Sometimes I feel like Adrianne lives in her own fantasy, I am not saying this for her, BUT a lot of the time women that talk like that about her marrice end up like clows, I'm just saying
I think men make you believe that when they are playing their cards on the DL . It happens to me , they know how to flip the script
Jeannie is back good to c u mama, and looking great are you sure u just had a baby. Love from South Africa🔥🔥😍🤗
I love Jeannie , her Robe / Pajamas are amazing 😮😍
Awww to Napa to visit Tamera? Hehehe🤗
@adrienne you should have your own talk show. I only watched this show because of Adrienne and Tamara. I do like Loni and Jeannie. I miss the old cast.
Omg the Sydney morning herald! My fav show Represent all the way from Australia
Omg first time im so early here!
Love from germany and have a great and peaceful day!
It feels so cool when you see the video first/early!! 🥇✨👏🏾
Loni feels like she is always in control like she never lets someone else take the lead vs Jeannie and Adrienne who seem be more go with the flow
Loni is so mature
Loni is highly intelligent❤️
I'm like Jeannie... autopilot mode
Alpha and Beta are terms to describe controlling and cooperative tendencies, respectively. There is nothing strong or submissive about these attitudes and behaviors.
Adrienne did not have to cut garcelle off
Love this💕💕💕✨😘
🤣 Garc. Needs to just relax and let an Alpha Male take lead. She needs to tap into feminine energy. Let him be the man and lead. Alpha man and Alpha woman can definitely work
I dont think its an alpha woman thing anymore. I think thats most of us modern women's problem. We're way too independent and not only that most of us dont know how to listen in a relationship. Not do what our man says but 'listen' in general. Men always wanna not even argue because it'll turn into a fight cause we always got something to say cause we always have to be right😅 men love to feel valued, needed. I think some of these men need to get with the program though. They shouldnt be intimidated, or emasculated. Beta males and Omega males are the best period. For real haha. Too bad there arent much of em left it seems like...
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I loved their analysis
Jeannie looks amazing
Sense the alpha term have masculinity traits, and women want to be masculine when they want to , then let me as man be feminine when I want to , let me wear a dress , lip stick & heels out in public but when I come home I take it off and become masculine again. and notice I never said I was gay , I just wanted to wear lip stick and a dress because I wanted to. You guys think my girl will still want me if she knew I was doing these things? And that's how men look at alpha females. and if we can agree that women and men are not the same then you can agree that a woman attractivness is different from a man's attractiveness so you can not say this example is not the same. NOT DISAGREEING OR AGREEING WITH THE VIDEO BUT GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS.
I really hope that they won't take this show off the air!