My best friend has had a PINTY 3-9 AR optic on his AR10 for like 8 years now and the damn thing still holds zero and has had ZERO issues. Dudes are legit AF for the price.
I met the aimpoint up of sales at a Gun show. He travels with one that took a direct hit from a 7.62x39 round. You can still see through it, despite broken glass, and the reticle still worked. It saved the soldiers life.
tbh the Vortex is probably a "back-door defect". That's super common with Chinese manufacturing of foreign products, to have the main production line go back to the company, and a few with "manufacturing defects" slip out the back door. Optics MFGs are typically more picky than most companies, so something like using the wrong paint, or a print being a degree or 2 out of place, all will get an otherwise perfectly working optic rejected by QC. So instead of scraping the part, it gets "decommissioned" in the form of going out the back door to be sold on sites like temu lol.
That and sometimes they just make extra and sell it out the back door. That is one of the risk of Chinese manufacturing. They will just steal your blueprints sometimes and just make them "across the street"
@@MrVashsword Not exactly, that's just a popular myth, but it's not why Chinese factories (or any overseas factories, for that matter) produce extras. Basically this is how it goes: say you order 10,000 units of something from my factory, I make those 10,000 and deliver them to the shipping company, but during delivery some of the boxes actually fall off the truck and suffer damage, or a few boxes get stolen along the way, or the shipping company arbitrarily decides not to accept some of those boxes, etc. Whatever the case, shipping company takes possession of the goods and reports to you that I've delivered the boxes for 9,500 units in good condition. Well, I'm 500 units short of our agreement, you're only going to pay for the 9,500 the shipping company accepted, and I might even wind up paying a penalty for failing to meet my obligation to you. So what I do? I make 11,000 units instead, assuming the same 5% loss as above, the shipping company receives 10,450, but you're only going to pay for 10,000 units and I'm not giving you 450 units for free, so I hand over 10,000 units to the shipping company, and I auction off the excess 450 units to cover their cost; these units are not covered by warranty (because I'm not selling them as an official retailer) and clients generally accept it as the cost of outsourcing production, which is why even super litigious companies like Nintendo don't punish the factories that do this with their products. Source: I worked for one such factory for the past three years, we never made anything "across the street" because the risk of losing _millions_ of dollars worth of annual contracts far outweighed the puny thousands of dollars we _might_ make stealing blueprints from our clients; there are so many other factories eager to outbid us for contracts, maintaining trust was literally the only thing keeping clients from going to our competitor and getting the same thing made for 5%~10% cheaper.
One user gives a detailed outline about the easy and smart way a company could legitimately sell products on the grey market that satisfies everyone and keeps trust and contracts intact. Another says he doesn’t trust China so that’s probably wrong. Yeah…
I tried a Monstrum Banshee 2-10 scope on my .308 AR for just under $100 and it came with two cantilever mounts. It has almost 1000 rounds on it, still keeps zero, but the illumination has started to turn on when I shoot, even though the knob is off. The clarity up to 7x isn't bad either. For $100 I just had to try it and see how long it will last. I'm actually impressed. The mounts seem fine, one has a diving board, so it's like I bought two 30mm mounts and they sent a cheap scope for free. The packaging was really fancy as well.
Myself and 5 buddys all have at least one Monstrum. Everything from LPVOs to the 6-24. Plus a Prism on a 22lr. Most of them don't have a batteries in them so I have no clue about that part. But they all work damn well. Hold zero, clear glass, come with mounts or rings. You can't beat it really. Gone out to a little over 800 yards with their G3 8-32 on a 6.5. A few have been banged around in the back of SXS and still work great. I also appreciate them not having a terrible name or logo slapped all over it like most cheap scopes do. Monstrum keeps it classy and gives a lot of value for your dollars
An Acog optic is 1987 era technology and it cost an assload of money today. Lots of manufacturers get away with this type of business. Brand recognition, that's how Nike even stays in Business.
So, I used to work for a firearms manufacturer and got 60% off vortex products. I have several of that same scope that I bought directly from Vortex for 140$ each. That scope, packaging and what was included looks entirely legit based on the ones I recieved.
I bought a Sig Tango MSR scope for $150 off of Temu and it came with all the accessories that it should and holds zero. It also shipped from a warehouse from Texas not China.
Pinty is actually a fairly reputable company, mostly for air guns though. So the smiley face reticle thing kinda shocks me that they would even have that lmao
Honestly if you had to resort to hitting these things with pipes to break them. I'd say for a man on a tight budget but still wants some functionality they are totally worth the price.
This time + effort will break anything as nothing "unbreakable" that it took him getting to the point you'd be worried about the gun working before the sights just means it's good cost to value.
These tests do not prove the main issue that many of these sights have... which is holding zero after a hundred or so rounds. You can get good quality red dots like Bushnells or Romeo5s on a budget versus resorting to Chinesium products. As cool as this video was to watch, it obviously was meant for entertainment and not actual product purchase information.
@@TheNoobGreG I'm not an NFL fan, but your comment reminded me of a video I watched years ago about William "Refrigerator" Perry. I had to look up his name but from what I remember the dude was an absolute beast. Very athletic despite his size, which made him a powerhouse on the field.
I've been shooting clays 30 years. Birdshot out of a full choke has a lot more recoil than out of a cylinder choke. Birdshot out of a light full choke and slugs are not all that much different in recoil.
I bought one of the Pinty Red dots for one of my AR’s that I use to test parts on etc and I’ve had it on the AR 55.6/.223 3/5 years and I’ve changed batteries on it a handful of times and it still works fantastic literally surprised the heck out of me to! From my experience it’s a really good budget optic that stays true as well even getting tossed around and lots of rounds through but it. Good pick on buying that one to test! Never seen the smiley fade one though haha they have regular red and green dot options as well! Just FYI to anyone interested!
Yup these fine i use them they work fine !! After I seen the 2nd Trump shooter use a 50 dollar Walmart scope he duck taped to a SKS and it held 0 I knew anything was possible!!! Lol
@@BoostedBrandoyeah the problem is it's still sometimes a roulette you might get a real one and other times not even when they claim they are real, but if you can save $1,000 or more it might be worth the gamble to you
I actually own a vortex 4x12x40 crossfire 179.99 bucks for the one I got and it’s amazingly clear. Damn near as good as my 1000k dollar luepold. It was an actual vortex scope but the one he has looks like it’s legit tbh. I got mine at bimart and I legitimately like it more than my other scopes.
I once met a gunshop owner who said that they make most of their profits off accessories. As I recall he mentioned that while most firearms they only have a 10-15% profit margin while for accessories it's typically between 100-300%. As someone who typically goes cheap on accessories, I've learned that most "budget" accessories do almost as good as the real thing. The only reason to buy an expensive accessory is if your going into combat or doing something that rough on your gun.
You've been lied to! .... cheap knock-off optics belong on toy guns like cheap knock-off tourniquets belong in the trash! Cheaping out on life-saving devices just ain't smart.
@@Casadeboxover the decade they have done plenty of tests on popular brands and off brands gear accessories and firearms. Also testing somthing that thousands to millions of ppl own and have a good baseline knowledge and information on isint as fun as testing cheap knock offs that claim to not be. That’s why this series is funny. Plenty of other channels have also done the exact thing. Why does ever channel need to replicate videos already done.
yeah gotta love a turkish m4 clone that cost more then most semi auto shotguns(1400) might as well spend the extra 6 to get a m4 or go with the a300 or 940 which are like 1k or less
The diamond back is probably from a pallet of QC failures, often still really good. And Penti is a real optic company that's low tier but still seem to be ok for light use, definitely not for a fighting rifle
I have a few Pinty optics in my spare parts bin from years ago, they actually do work very well and hold zero good enough for range toys. Had one of lasers as well, SUUUUUUUPER bright and held decent zero on an AR as well. Not the best stuff but for a average shooter on a budget, they work.
@@andrewlyell6606pinty is like the hi point of optics !! (Low low budget, but very very durable) I have a pinty , been left in rain , hunted in rain (it’s on one of my little 22lrs ) feel into shallow water off a boat .. 3 years later , still holds a good zeroin and works great
The knockoff surefire m600 scout off wish.... Ive had one on a 9mm PCC for years, literally thousands of rounds now and still works! Y'all outta torture test them!
Matt, the new range is nice and all, but it is great to have an old school video again! I really have missed this content! Thanks for bringing it back!
Almost as dumb as putting the chip factories you need for all your modern tech, on an island next to your biggest rival, on the other side of the biggest ocean on the planet.
Sort of like increasing environmental regs to the point that all the lead mining in your country goes out of business and many of the recyclers close. Why would we need a domestic source for lead? Granted it is used in bullets, batteries and other products but I am sure other nations will be glad to sell it to us if war breaks out. right?
There’s two components to “quality”. Quality engineering and quality manufacturing. Some companies are only good at copying other people’s designs but that doesn’t necessarily make it garbage.
Had a cheap pinty red dot on a .44 mag revolver. Dunno about zero since we never really zeroed it, but years later it still turns on and works just fine.
Like the "Ole range"better for videos, thanks for the great video again, wife says i have so many firearms, but I only wish I had half of what you do lol.
I definitely like that Matt's doing this don't get me wrong, but at least he could have zeroed the stuff to see if it held zero, and this is a bit extreme lol but hey KEEP IT UP !😂 At least he did a clone Vs Reall and treated them the same way😂
The reason that vortex is real is because it’s made in the same factory. The same reason primary arms run just as well as aim points, sigs and holosuns.....
I found a lot of times the knock offs will have a slightly different model # or part # From the genuine ones. . Chyyynnnaa has flooded the market with cra. P. Olla knock off junk And a lot of it is sold on. Cra. P. ozon . It’s really buyer be warned
@@BOSSTOWN10so it very well could be. The reason TEMU is so cheap is because they work directly with the factories instead of holding stock. So when you order something like this scope on TEMU, they contact the factory and tell them they need one of this scope, they then make the scope and ship it. Instead of something like Amazon or in this case Vortex, Vortex places an order for 500 of this scope and holds that stock until they start running low, this factors in shipping from the factory to the warehouse, the employees sorting it, then shipping it to you so prices are higher. It very well could be legitimate from the factory that makes them but going behind Vortex's back.
@@onethousandrays I looked away from the screen for a minute and turned back to that and almost spit my drink everywhere when I seen Mikey on Matt's back! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You should watch the video before you comment, he did hit the eotech with the steel bar and Mikey threw it at a steel plate more than once, spoiler alert . . .
Matt: I’m like 70% sure this $400 scope is real. I feel bad, I can’t destroy it. I’m giving it away. Also Matt: I’m 100% sure this $1400 eotech sight is real. Let’s destroy it
I actually run a Pinty reflex sight (non-happyface retical) on my tactical-built Remington 870. Had the airsoft optic lying around and threw it on my shotgun to test it myself. I've had it on for a while now and it's stayed working and held zero through many weekends of clay pigeon destruction and shooting heavy-kicking rounds for fun.
Hey the Vortex scope probably came out of the same Chinese Factory! BTW want to really test a scope? But them on a gas piston Air rifle! Many magnum gas piston air rifles will destroy really good scopes! It's because of the unique double recoil of gas piston. One when the ram releases, and the other when the ram slams into the end of the tube. For gas pistons and spingers a scope must be airgun rated. 😊
So glad you posted again on demolition Ranch. I love the Matt character channel and all you do there but really miss the demo ranch trying things out blowing things up! I’ve been watching you since you had 75,000 subscribers and it’s just fun to see how you have grown and become the force that you are in the gun world!
@@axwood5274 I was thinking the same thing, this is either an AI or someone who speaks English as a second language. Was curious so I looked at his page, he's got family home videos posted 12 years ago... Still worded really strangely and seems pull info from other posts.
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Congrats on the buck! And great that you got him with the 77/44. Too bad about the scopecam though, but what the heck, shit happens 😊
Here I am thinking Matt was going to test and make sure they held a zero after testing them... He's literally infamous for never sighting in any of his optics lol
Patent and copyright infringement apparently aren’t a thing in China, who knew? What cracks me up is customs letting this stuff get imported. Imagine how much fentanyl is getting through.
I got a Gideon Omega $75, a Swampfox Justice 2 $130 and Sentinel $60 on Temu and all 3 were legit . Like factory packaging all the paperwork ,screws excetra and hold zero
Shop and range around Mt Union had someone swap the ACOG off of their SCAR rental for a wish ACOG. The range didn’t notice until a customer came back inside with the rifle saying the glass fell out of the optic 😆
The housings might've been made by the same vendor. Primary Arms used to import a scope which shared a housing used by larger manufacturer. The difference was in the magnification level and quality of glass.
So the pinty red dots are pretty damn good and the vortex diamondback I have bought for 200 bucks brand new from my gun store. Only downfall to the diamondback is lack of illumination on a FFP scope .. hard to see it early in the morning (experience gained 😂)
I have a cheap chinese aimpoint pro style optic that I have been using for about 13 years on a m&p 15-22. It still works just fine and has the original battery in it. I think I had to re zero it once in 2016. I paid $63 or $65 for it at the time. I haven't smashed it against cement blocks though.
You can DEFINITELY get lucky! I bought a Trijicon knockoff (that still had "Trijicon" all over it) for $35 just to see if it would work on a pellet gun build. I got curious and tried it on a .22 pistol, then a .45 and just a few shots from a 12g and it still held zero perfectly! Now it lives on my Ruger Mk4 and does just as well as my buddies real one, 😂.
That smile face reticle is the single most Army of Two item I've EVER seen. I'm having flashbacks of 2,200 hours of Co-op play. Oh man, why'd you have to bring me back; why oh why did you have to open me up after shutting that door. I. MUST. RESUME. PLAYING!
Idk why but i feel like matt is the only TH-camr whos sponsorship announcements i can actually sit through just so entertaining too watch idc what hes talking about its just funny spontaneous and overall great for an audience who enjoys goofy and serious
I have a knock-off ACOG on my PSA AR10-ish. It works great. Obviously (or not), I don’t abuse it like you guys did these. I would like to see you try a Chinese ACOG. I am 64 and in my time in the U.S. Marine Corps everyone but the Carlos Hathcocks of the world used irons. I shot 248 the last time I qualified in 1983. My AR15 wears a Vortex scope and it too works first time, every time.
The cheap Chinese stuff is actually coming up, back in the day we had NC Star, which would have been alright on a 22, you put a scope on say an AK, you get 1 accurate shot, however the red dots were actually decent, now these Chinese clone optics are actually decent, now I use a Walmart Special illuminated Center Point scope on my AR, and it's honestly the best budget scope I've ever used 😂
Money gets tight and optics are overpriced. And if you think about it this way, ten guys with cheep guns will always win in a fight with one guy with an expensive gun.
Eotech is a true holographic sight. Temutech is a reflex sight. Similar look outside, completely different make-up inside. The holo has no parallax error, the reflex has parallax error. The holo reticle stays the same size when magnified. The reflex reticle magnifies, losing accuracy.
True, there are only two manufacturers of holographic sights, EOTech and Vortex, all others are reflex. Not true concerning parallax, the holo's (and all optics) do have parallax (and that's straight from EOTech). Also not true concerning reticle magnification. You can't defy the laws of physics. A 3x magnifier will make the reticle appear 3x bigger...but it also makes the target 3x bigger too. Net effect is that the reticle still covers the exact same amount of the target. Claiming holo reticles aren't magnified is a myth.
@@edwardlance2379 The myth comes from the fact that the center dot of the eotech is actually smaller than 1 moa and stays tiny under magnification. The ring magnifies like normal. The parallax of a holo is smaller than a red dot's.
The “Pinty” is made by some Chinese company that sells to a few dozen different brands, and they’re all exactly the same. I actually had one on my MP 15-22 for awhile and it did fine on it with .22 LR
This feels like the Demo Ranch I used to watch 6 years ago!
I was going to say the same thing! First time I gave a like in awhile, hasn't been the same.
@@z.a-c_hfr lmao
It does. Good point. Old school Demo Ranch + Mikey = Win.
And I love it!
And I was just talking about the Wish App "Body Armor" series just a week ago.
My best friend has had a PINTY 3-9 AR optic on his AR10 for like 8 years now and the damn thing still holds zero and has had ZERO issues. Dudes are legit AF for the price.
Pinty have a reputation as being solid optics for the price. Not saying they are the greatest. But for budget-minded buyers, they get the job done.
Cool story bro but needed more dragons
@@bretterful that is joe rogan, not matt :p
I'm not really surprised about this ngl. All these optics, expensive or cheap, when made in china are all probably from the same factory.
Had my pinty red dot on my airsoft gun, .22lr, and 44 mag, held zero on literally everything lmao
Back to the old days and fun stuff! I love it!
AWESOME
Finally! 😂
🇺🇸👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Very happy ,old school
Back when he tried
I met the aimpoint up of sales at a Gun show. He travels with one that took a direct hit from a 7.62x39 round. You can still see through it, despite broken glass, and the reticle still worked. It saved the soldiers life.
But... BUT.... Did it hold it's zero?
I love how he gives it away instead of wrecking it, so funny to see that from Matt. He’s such a nice guy😂
Oh no, Matt has found the Airsoft replicas..
His tests of Temu junk sometimes find something that are some impressive finds.
I've dived into some.. annnnd all I'm goona say is its worth looking into.
You should order Roman Atwood, the foul sally face 145 more
@@somniferousSirenSocialIdk why people sleep on Temu so much, I legit find better quality stuff than on Amazon half the time lol
Some of the airsoft stuff is actually pretty solid
tbh the Vortex is probably a "back-door defect". That's super common with Chinese manufacturing of foreign products, to have the main production line go back to the company, and a few with "manufacturing defects" slip out the back door. Optics MFGs are typically more picky than most companies, so something like using the wrong paint, or a print being a degree or 2 out of place, all will get an otherwise perfectly working optic rejected by QC. So instead of scraping the part, it gets "decommissioned" in the form of going out the back door to be sold on sites like temu lol.
That and sometimes they just make extra and sell it out the back door. That is one of the risk of Chinese manufacturing. They will just steal your blueprints sometimes and just make them "across the street"
@@MrVashsword Not exactly, that's just a popular myth, but it's not why Chinese factories (or any overseas factories, for that matter) produce extras. Basically this is how it goes: say you order 10,000 units of something from my factory, I make those 10,000 and deliver them to the shipping company, but during delivery some of the boxes actually fall off the truck and suffer damage, or a few boxes get stolen along the way, or the shipping company arbitrarily decides not to accept some of those boxes, etc. Whatever the case, shipping company takes possession of the goods and reports to you that I've delivered the boxes for 9,500 units in good condition.
Well, I'm 500 units short of our agreement, you're only going to pay for the 9,500 the shipping company accepted, and I might even wind up paying a penalty for failing to meet my obligation to you. So what I do? I make 11,000 units instead, assuming the same 5% loss as above, the shipping company receives 10,450, but you're only going to pay for 10,000 units and I'm not giving you 450 units for free, so I hand over 10,000 units to the shipping company, and I auction off the excess 450 units to cover their cost; these units are not covered by warranty (because I'm not selling them as an official retailer) and clients generally accept it as the cost of outsourcing production, which is why even super litigious companies like Nintendo don't punish the factories that do this with their products.
Source: I worked for one such factory for the past three years, we never made anything "across the street" because the risk of losing _millions_ of dollars worth of annual contracts far outweighed the puny thousands of dollars we _might_ make stealing blueprints from our clients; there are so many other factories eager to outbid us for contracts, maintaining trust was literally the only thing keeping clients from going to our competitor and getting the same thing made for 5%~10% cheaper.
@@blarghmcblarghson1903 Thing is, Chinese manufacturers have shown time and again that they don't think the long game.
@@Tuulos sorry, the guy above sounds more convincing
One user gives a detailed outline about the easy and smart way a company could legitimately sell products on the grey market that satisfies everyone and keeps trust and contracts intact.
Another says he doesn’t trust China so that’s probably wrong.
Yeah…
Saved the Vortex, proceeds to $900 red dot destruction 😂
That made me tear up a bit, I hate seeing wanton destruction or damage to good, high quality items.
@@johnfriend862 boohoo
@@johnfriend862 i assume you could send it into EOTech and they'd fix it
I tried a Monstrum Banshee 2-10 scope on my .308 AR for just under $100 and it came with two cantilever mounts. It has almost 1000 rounds on it, still keeps zero, but the illumination has started to turn on when I shoot, even though the knob is off. The clarity up to 7x isn't bad either. For $100 I just had to try it and see how long it will last. I'm actually impressed. The mounts seem fine, one has a diving board, so it's like I bought two 30mm mounts and they sent a cheap scope for free. The packaging was really fancy as well.
Myself and 5 buddys all have at least one Monstrum. Everything from LPVOs to the 6-24. Plus a Prism on a 22lr. Most of them don't have a batteries in them so I have no clue about that part. But they all work damn well. Hold zero, clear glass, come with mounts or rings. You can't beat it really. Gone out to a little over 800 yards with their G3 8-32 on a 6.5. A few have been banged around in the back of SXS and still work great. I also appreciate them not having a terrible name or logo slapped all over it like most cheap scopes do. Monstrum keeps it classy and gives a lot of value for your dollars
Monstrum is chinese products assembled in the USA , ITS MUCH BETTER QC , than some back room in china .
Do you really think the "original" ones are worth their prices? It's +1000% profits.
Tariffs will fuel more people buying direct from China.
An Acog optic is 1987 era technology and it cost an assload of money today. Lots of manufacturers get away with this type of business. Brand recognition, that's how Nike even stays in Business.
Half the price is QA probably. Other half is niche market that is willing to pay...
So, I used to work for a firearms manufacturer and got 60% off vortex products. I have several of that same scope that I bought directly from Vortex for 140$ each. That scope, packaging and what was included looks entirely legit based on the ones I recieved.
Those specific LOVOs from Vortex are manufactured in China so I'd almost say Temu definitely got their hands on a few shipments.
I bought a Sig Tango MSR scope for $150 off of Temu and it came with all the accessories that it should and holds zero. It also shipped from a warehouse from Texas not China.
Everybody hitting Temu for that Vortex :D
Been looking 🤣🤣
No way, Looking for the PNTY.
:)
Bro for real! 😂
i just wish he tested the trijicon rmr ive been looking at that
I haven’t found it
Matt and Mikey's bromance is the true magic behind Demolition Ranch.
Pinty is actually a fairly reputable company, mostly for air guns though. So the smiley face reticle thing kinda shocks me that they would even have that lmao
Sootch put one on a shotgun and tested it for quite a while and it still held zero.
The smiley face reticle is actually quite useful for airsoft specifically where you can use it to account for drop on a man sized target
I would so happily take the cracked eotech. Kinda badass aesthetic
Honestly if you had to resort to hitting these things with pipes to break them. I'd say for a man on a tight budget but still wants some functionality they are totally worth the price.
Very true. If you're dropping your weapon that constantly, buy a sling.
This time + effort will break anything as nothing "unbreakable" that it took him getting to the point you'd be worried about the gun working before the sights just means it's good cost to value.
These tests do not prove the main issue that many of these sights have... which is holding zero after a hundred or so rounds. You can get good quality red dots like Bushnells or Romeo5s on a budget versus resorting to Chinesium products.
As cool as this video was to watch, it obviously was meant for entertainment and not actual product purchase information.
@@SandmanActualYT when i say on a budget i mean HI-point level budget lol i know its not a serious test and glosses over the actual issues
@@TrippooDew338lol then you get iron sights with your hi point budget.
When Matt said, "Guns that kick a lot," I could see Scott's ears go up. Followed by laughter when he saw a couple 12 guages.
950 JDJ in the corner chuckling "I suppose I don't kick. What I do is more akin to a tackle from an NFL linebacker."
He said kicks a lot not war stomp your shoulder 😭
@@TheNoobGreG I'm not an NFL fan, but your comment reminded me of a video I watched years ago about William "Refrigerator" Perry. I had to look up his name but from what I remember the dude was an absolute beast. Very athletic despite his size, which made him a powerhouse on the field.
@canadianbaconman Scott would have a shotgun in each hand, and still manage to jerk-cock them and continue firing.
I thought it was going to be another gun that can chamber a 50 bmg..
"gonna test this with something with lots of recoil" proceeds to load bird shot, lmao ok.
I've been shooting clays 30 years. Birdshot out of a full choke has a lot more recoil than out of a cylinder choke. Birdshot out of a light full choke and slugs are not all that much different in recoil.
I don't even own a gun you almost sold that wish product to me man 🤣🤣🤣🤣 best salesman of the year I swear
I bought one of the Pinty Red dots for one of my AR’s that I use to test parts on etc and I’ve had it on the AR 55.6/.223 3/5 years and I’ve changed batteries on it a handful of times and it still works fantastic literally surprised the heck out of me to! From my experience it’s a really good budget optic that stays true as well even getting tossed around and lots of rounds through but it. Good pick on buying that one to test! Never seen the smiley fade one though haha they have regular red and green dot options as well! Just FYI to anyone interested!
Yup these fine i use them they work fine !! After I seen the 2nd Trump shooter use a 50 dollar Walmart scope he duck taped to a SKS and it held 0 I knew anything was possible!!! Lol
Smiley Face Reticle 😂 I thought stuff like that only exists in video games
First thought was BO2 and BO3 lmao.
If you buy a smiley face reticle scope in real life... You're still in the game.
If I’m not mistaken (very likely I am) I feel like I’ve heard you can program different reticles to eotech
Because is for airsoft
That vortex scope deserved a chance at a normal life.
Anything made in china like the diamondback scope is sold on aliexpress out the back door of the factory usually blems or grey markey
@@stephenfrancis303 So you’re saying it’s a legit Vortex scope ? Lol well hello Aliexpress.
@@BoostedBrandoyeah the problem is it's still sometimes a roulette you might get a real one and other times not even when they claim they are real, but if you can save $1,000 or more it might be worth the gamble to you
I actually own a vortex 4x12x40 crossfire 179.99 bucks for the one I got and it’s amazingly clear. Damn near as good as my 1000k dollar luepold. It was an actual vortex scope but the one he has looks like it’s legit tbh. I got mine at bimart and I legitimately like it more than my other scopes.
@alext6933 did he say AliExpress or Temu? I'm gonna be on that site later if that's what you get for a FFP vortex
That feels like demo ranch. Thank you. Honestly I almost didn't watch it because you have been so far off the demo ranch I subscribed to 8 years ago
As a Canadian, seeing you not trash a turkish benelli copies warms my heart😊
Hurray!!! I really missed videos at this range! Im glad to see you back there!
I once met a gunshop owner who said that they make most of their profits off accessories. As I recall he mentioned that while most firearms they only have a 10-15% profit margin while for accessories it's typically between 100-300%. As someone who typically goes cheap on accessories, I've learned that most "budget" accessories do almost as good as the real thing. The only reason to buy an expensive accessory is if your going into combat or doing something that rough on your gun.
@@fastallowance68 That depends on the store and state it's in.
@@smugfrog8111 every gunstore is getting all their accessories from the same 7 or 8 distributers
Laughs in 1000 lumen tlr1
You've been lied to! .... cheap knock-off optics belong on toy guns like cheap knock-off tourniquets belong in the trash! Cheaping out on life-saving devices just ain't smart.
I'll buy a cheap gun before I buy a cheap accessory. That said, i don't buy cheap guns
Love to see the real ones go through the same test 😊
Me too.
This is Demolition Ranch, not Accurate Ubiased Scientific Ranch..... So it would be fun, I agree, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.
They may not hold up like the Chinese knock offs
feeling the sig would look identical.
@@Casadeboxover the decade they have done plenty of tests on popular brands and off brands gear accessories and firearms. Also testing somthing that thousands to millions of ppl own and have a good baseline knowledge and information on isint as fun as testing cheap knock offs that claim to not be. That’s why this series is funny. Plenty of other channels have also done the exact thing. Why does ever channel need to replicate videos already done.
I’m pissed! I haven’t been getting your channel recommended lately lol. Love you man keep the channel going✌️❤️
I WAS UNSUBSCRIBED! how?
same I was thinking he was taking a break or something but he has been posting but I don't get notifications in my feed
Vanguard tier bonuses look incredible! Alemio is rewarding its loyal presale participants and early adopters well!
When the shotgun jammed, I was thinking, maybe it came from temu also
It basically did, they are turkshit shotguns.
Never trust yout life on Turkish shotguns, they are extremely unreliable
it did. turkish shotguns are junk
Turkey, almost as good as China!!
yeah gotta love a turkish m4 clone that cost more then most semi auto shotguns(1400) might as well spend the extra 6 to get a m4 or go with the a300 or 940 which are like 1k or less
Temu turkey same same but different! 😅@@mysilentnoise4510
The diamond back is probably from a pallet of QC failures, often still really good. And Penti is a real optic company that's low tier but still seem to be ok for light use, definitely not for a fighting rifle
What? If I had a M1 Abrams tank I'd put a smiley face red dot on it
I have a few Pinty optics in my spare parts bin from years ago, they actually do work very well and hold zero good enough for range toys. Had one of lasers as well, SUUUUUUUPER bright and held decent zero on an AR as well. Not the best stuff but for a average shooter on a budget, they work.
I had a pointy before I knew what to buy. Still on one of my ARs. Hasn't lost zero. But same- wouldn't bet my life on it
I actually use Pinty sights for airsofting because they are so cheap while still reasonably robust enough to survive a decent level of torture
@@andrewlyell6606pinty is like the hi point of optics !! (Low low budget, but very very durable) I have a pinty , been left in rain , hunted in rain (it’s on one of my little 22lrs ) feel into shallow water off a boat .. 3 years later , still holds a good zeroin and works great
a smiley face redicle is something i didnt expect to see today
Black ops 2 vibes or whichever one it's cod
@Mixmastermez yep, and was thinking the same thing: straight out of COD
10:21
That laugh, did you have some special brownies before going to the ranch? 🤣🤣
Because all joy must be pharmaceutically based.
no one puts pharmaceuticals in brownies
1:53 video start
Your a G
Some heroes don't wear capes.
The knockoff surefire m600 scout off wish.... Ive had one on a 9mm PCC for years, literally thousands of rounds now and still works! Y'all outta torture test them!
oughta
Not buying expensive stuff again
"You already don't". Best line of the video
jennas like the babysitter who's taken the kids to play at the park
14:50 Mikey is the best spotter. Prove me wrong lol
Matt, the new range is nice and all, but it is great to have an old school video again! I really have missed this content! Thanks for bringing it back!
Buying pew attachments from Temu seems about as silly as manufacturing all your communication devices in an adversarial nation.
Wait a minute...
Almost as dumb as putting the chip factories you need for all your modern tech, on an island next to your biggest rival, on the other side of the biggest ocean on the planet.
@@Zeppathy you know what, starting to think that may have been intentional (possible sarcasm, its over)
All of this😂😂😂😂
@@Zeppathytf you mean ‘putting’ there? It’s a Taiwanese company with its fabs in Taiwan, just get Intel to up their game lol
Sort of like increasing environmental regs to the point that all the lead mining in your country goes out of business and many of the recyclers close.
Why would we need a domestic source for lead?
Granted it is used in bullets, batteries and other products but I am sure other nations will be glad to sell it to us if war breaks out. right?
There’s two components to “quality”. Quality engineering and quality manufacturing. Some companies are only good at copying other people’s designs but that doesn’t necessarily make it garbage.
Old school demo ranch vibes, loved it!!
14:45 Man I love the little skits these two dudes do 🤣🤣
That's some broke back sniping right there!
I love the old range so much better than the new one.
Had a cheap pinty red dot on a .44 mag revolver. Dunno about zero since we never really zeroed it, but years later it still turns on and works just fine.
Finally some cheap gear Tests again. Hope to see some surprises
When the dude was "spotting" the long range shot and climbed on the back of the chair i lost it laughing.
I wish people would make a quality red dot where I could download reticles… like the smiley face reticle lol
I think you can program some of them to have it, but it's a hassle and I wish for those aswell for ease of access
Like the "Ole range"better for videos, thanks for the great video again, wife says i have so many firearms, but I only wish I had half of what you do lol.
Personally, I work at Big5. We get that exact vortex scope for $195.99
I could not pass it up for $99.00 being an employee
I definitely like that Matt's doing this don't get me wrong, but at least he could have zeroed the stuff to see if it held zero, and this is a bit extreme lol but hey KEEP IT UP !😂 At least he did a clone Vs Reall and treated them the same way😂
The reason that vortex is real is because it’s made in the same factory. The same reason primary arms run just as well as aim points, sigs and holosuns.....
I found a lot of times the knock offs will have a slightly different model # or
part # From the genuine ones. . Chyyynnnaa has flooded the market with
cra. P. Olla knock off junk
And a lot of it is sold on. Cra. P. ozon . It’s really buyer be warned
Not true, they are not made in the same factory.
More like the reason it’s real is because they spent $400 on a $400 optic…
@@BOSSTOWN10so it very well could be. The reason TEMU is so cheap is because they work directly with the factories instead of holding stock. So when you order something like this scope on TEMU, they contact the factory and tell them they need one of this scope, they then make the scope and ship it. Instead of something like Amazon or in this case Vortex, Vortex places an order for 500 of this scope and holds that stock until they start running low, this factors in shipping from the factory to the warehouse, the employees sorting it, then shipping it to you so prices are higher.
It very well could be legitimate from the factory that makes them but going behind Vortex's back.
Do you know what factory?
Watching Mikey behind Matt... "Woah, my love, my darling I've hungered for your touch." LOL
@@onethousandrays I looked away from the screen for a minute and turned back to that and almost spit my drink everywhere when I seen Mikey on Matt's back! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've never been this early to a Demolition Ranch video and I'm in love. Matt you're amazing!
Gross
Roman Atwood needs to buy up all the Chinese smiley red dots and re-brand them as "smile more optics" lol
That PTR doesn’t fit you at all, you might as well give it to me. Hahaha
Great video, the lever action was sweet!
I love the smiley reticle
I would love to have one just to make me laugh!!
@RICDirector
I kinda want to order one for my M4 clone to be honest...
Okay now I want eotech smiley face
Let’s see you hit the expensive stuff with the steel bar
yeah im wondering if a real sig sight would take that beating
You should watch the video before you comment, he did hit the eotech with the steel bar and Mikey threw it at a steel plate more than once, spoiler alert . . .
well, did you?! watch the video?
Matt: I’m like 70% sure this $400 scope is real. I feel bad, I can’t destroy it. I’m giving it away.
Also Matt: I’m 100% sure this $1400 eotech sight is real. Let’s destroy it
Just had surgery thanks for making my day better Matt!❤
dead what? 🤨
This could use an edit 😂
@@waterlemon2046elite auto correct
I really wanna know what it originally said 😂🤣
Bro tell me you didn’t get the lungs I need.
I was hoping to see really tested and how accurate they are
What? It’s a freaking red dot dude
bro forgot what channel hes watching
He would have to zero them
That would be incredibly boring, wrong channel lol
@@demondchild1 and everybody knows Matt don't zero.
I missed that cosy range way to much !
Id love to see how some of those temu solvent catches hold up!
I actually run a Pinty reflex sight (non-happyface retical) on my tactical-built Remington 870. Had the airsoft optic lying around and threw it on my shotgun to test it myself. I've had it on for a while now and it's stayed working and held zero through many weekends of clay pigeon destruction and shooting heavy-kicking rounds for fun.
Dang, for an Airsoft piece to hold up on a Shotgun over time is actually impressive.
I do as well, and it has performed decently on my 5.56. I think mine has 4 different reticles and I've been able to smack some steel at 100-150yds.
Hey the Vortex scope probably came out of the same Chinese Factory! BTW want to really test a scope? But them on a gas piston Air rifle! Many magnum gas piston air rifles will destroy really good scopes! It's because of the unique double recoil of gas piston. One when the ram releases, and the other when the ram slams into the end of the tube. For gas pistons and spingers a scope must be airgun rated. 😊
So glad you posted again on demolition Ranch. I love the Matt character channel and all you do there but really miss the demo ranch trying things out blowing things up! I’ve been watching you since you had 75,000 subscribers and it’s just fun to see how you have grown and become the force that you are in the gun world!
Tell me your an ai without telling me your an ai.
Suck off guy is here.. 👌🏿😏
@@axwood5274 I was thinking the same thing, this is either an AI or someone who speaks English as a second language. Was curious so I looked at his page, he's got family home videos posted 12 years ago... Still worded really strangely and seems pull info from other posts.
Congrats on the buck! And great that you got him with the 77/44. Too bad about the scopecam though, but what the heck, shit happens 😊
Here I am thinking Matt was going to test and make sure they held a zero after testing them... He's literally infamous for never sighting in any of his optics lol
Man, that Arms Export Control Act is working so well.
Wait so you're telling me bans on things never work? That really shocks me to the core....😑
Patent and copyright infringement apparently aren’t a thing in China, who knew? What cracks me up is customs letting this stuff get imported. Imagine how much fentanyl is getting through.
Maybe the government should ban Fentanyl
I’ve actually only heard great things from pinty optics, only thought it was for airsoft and 22s though
Chinesium makes the world go round
I got a Gideon Omega $75, a Swampfox Justice 2 $130 and Sentinel $60 on Temu and all 3 were legit . Like factory packaging all the paperwork ,screws excetra and hold zero
Shop and range around Mt Union had someone swap the ACOG off of their SCAR rental for a wish ACOG. The range didn’t notice until a customer came back inside with the rifle saying the glass fell out of the optic 😆
Great video. I've used pinty Red Dots. They never disappoint. Cvlife is also a goo's cope brand for small and medium calibers.
My panzer m4 has fired about 600-700 shells no problems and didn’t require break in, shoots birdshot game load everything
That 2nd one looks like the busnell TRS-25 minus the smiley face 😊
The housings might've been made by the same vendor. Primary Arms used to import a scope which shared a housing used by larger manufacturer. The difference was in the magnification level and quality of glass.
So the pinty red dots are pretty damn good and the vortex diamondback I have bought for 200 bucks brand new from my gun store. Only downfall to the diamondback is lack of illumination on a FFP scope .. hard to see it early in the morning (experience gained 😂)
So you’re “pumped” about your semi automatic shotgun?!?!?! I see what you did there!!! 😂
I have ACTUALLY heard Good things about the Pinty red dots. They are inexpensive and surprisingly durable! Perfect for plinking rifles
I find it’s “hit & miss” on stuff that lasts
I touched the notification accidentally at same time it popped up 😅 I'm way early.
Stay wit the old stuff🙏🏻 love it
I have a cheap chinese aimpoint pro style optic that I have been using for about 13 years on a m&p 15-22. It still works just fine and has the original battery in it. I think I had to re zero it once in 2016. I paid $63 or $65 for it at the time. I haven't smashed it against cement blocks though.
You can DEFINITELY get lucky!
I bought a Trijicon knockoff (that still had "Trijicon" all over it) for $35 just to see if it would work on a pellet gun build.
I got curious and tried it on a .22 pistol, then a .45 and just a few shots from a 12g and it still held zero perfectly!
Now it lives on my Ruger Mk4 and does just as well as my buddies real one, 😂.
Going off Kentucky Ballistics video will you see how much unpopped popcorn it takes to stop a bullet?
That smile face reticle is the single most Army of Two item I've EVER seen. I'm having flashbacks of 2,200 hours of Co-op play. Oh man, why'd you have to bring me back; why oh why did you have to open me up after shutting that door. I. MUST. RESUME. PLAYING!
Idk why but i feel like matt is the only TH-camr whos sponsorship announcements i can actually sit through just so entertaining too watch idc what hes talking about its just funny spontaneous and overall great for an audience who enjoys goofy and serious
I have a knock-off ACOG on my PSA AR10-ish. It works great. Obviously (or not), I don’t abuse it like you guys did these. I would like to see you try a Chinese ACOG. I am 64 and in my time in the U.S. Marine Corps everyone but the Carlos Hathcocks of the world used irons. I shot 248 the last time I qualified in 1983. My AR15 wears a Vortex scope and it too works first time, every time.
The cheap Chinese stuff is actually coming up, back in the day we had NC Star, which would have been alright on a 22, you put a scope on say an AK, you get 1 accurate shot, however the red dots were actually decent, now these Chinese clone optics are actually decent, now I use a Walmart Special illuminated Center Point scope on my AR, and it's honestly the best budget scope I've ever used 😂
I got one of them scopes on my 308 ar10 and I dropped it off a table landed right on the scope. perfectly fine still dead on at 500.
I literally have that exact setup with my psa ar-10 lol. Haven’t dropped it but glad to know it should still work!
Wait, you didn’t have a sniper shotgun until now!? 😂
Battlefield Bad Company 2 with its Slug Sniper remembers!
@@UH1Philbased af game, still got my pc hard copy even now
15:12 I’m going to win. So don’t get your hopes up.
No no, piss off it's mine
i actually have PENTY optics on most of my firearms including a AR15, 30-06 and 12 gage tactical. i love the PENTY optics for the cost
Thanks Matt for all the content Erie PA really got hit bad by snow storm been stuck in the house man. 🙏
Damn Temu got you too😮💨
Why matt why
Money gets tight and optics are overpriced.
And if you think about it this way, ten guys with cheep guns will always win in a fight with one guy with an expensive gun.
@jebkermen6087 meanwhile youre funding communism. Hard pass
Shotgun sniper bro's lmfao 🤣🤣
The horror of seeing an ACOG slug bro within 100m when you have a sniper rifle in BF.😂
I want to see a shotgun sniper build. 300yards lets gooooo!
Eotech is a true holographic sight. Temutech is a reflex sight. Similar look outside, completely different make-up inside. The holo has no parallax error, the reflex has parallax error. The holo reticle stays the same size when magnified. The reflex reticle magnifies, losing accuracy.
I was going to say something similar. The Temutech is closer to a EPS style red dot vs a holo
True, there are only two manufacturers of holographic sights, EOTech and Vortex, all others are reflex. Not true concerning parallax, the holo's (and all optics) do have parallax (and that's straight from EOTech). Also not true concerning reticle magnification. You can't defy the laws of physics. A 3x magnifier will make the reticle appear 3x bigger...but it also makes the target 3x bigger too. Net effect is that the reticle still covers the exact same amount of the target. Claiming holo reticles aren't magnified is a myth.
@@edwardlance2379 The myth comes from the fact that the center dot of the eotech is actually smaller than 1 moa and stays tiny under magnification. The ring magnifies like normal. The parallax of a holo is smaller than a red dot's.
Gotta' admit I like the idea of that reticle. It's like "Smile muddafcca" when you have to hand out a lead azzwoopin'. lol
The “Pinty” is made by some Chinese company that sells to a few dozen different brands, and they’re all exactly the same. I actually had one on my MP 15-22 for awhile and it did fine on it with .22 LR