@@ChrisBuissonDIY no prob! This is also pretty much my exact setup at the moment 52v/2kw vevor and with it being the first I want to make sure I know exactly what to do so this is awesome. Looks like I only have a few connectors left to order and I can start the build! Thanks again looking fwd to the new content!
I love what you're doing here, *I know its more of an opinion, but those solder joints would be stronger and have less resistance if you braided/joined the two wire ends before soldering. Much Love!!!!
Good idea if you're using lead acid batteries, as those don't have a BMS. Or if you have a lithium battery and want extra safety, you could add a fuse, but most lithium batteries have a BMS that will disconnect power in case too many amps are pulled. Hope that makes sense!
I have a budget of around 800 ($CAD) and I want to upgrade the Razor pocket mod moped with this video. Would these be compatible with the moped razor? awesome video man do you have a new link for the battery? it doesn't work at the moment...
So if you wanted, could you use just the stock throttle? And with that new motor do you have to get a bigger battery or could you also use the 3 stock batteries? And i love the way you explained everything, you made it seem so simple. Thnk u.😁👍
Quick question.. I bought this same kit, decided to test fresh out of the box, hooked up all the wires like the directions stated, used my 36v to test, getting 36v Into the controller, 36v to the ignition switch, 36v back into the controller but only getting 5v into the 3 speed switch and throttle. nothing changes when the throttle is Engaged. No voltage to phase wires at all. Have you encountered this or. Possibly. Know what's going on or if I have a junky controller?
I chose not to use a fuse, you can throw one in there but there's also a BMS for overcurrent discharge in the battery, so it's not likely to be a problem.
so i just got a Trailmaster Cheetah i6 for my kids christmas present, brand new, just delivered and assembled today. It supposedly has 3 speeds, L/M/H. however, its only switching L/M, M/H speed selection does nothing to increase the speed. Thinking its just the switch?
Ebike manufacturers sometimes forget to plug things in at the factory, I'd recommend taking the covers off and checking to see if the wire is plugged in, kinked, or broken. Good luck!
Caoomm batteries cna be found on ebay or sometimes Amazon, and they're reliable for a build like this (48v20ah). You can also get a battery from Electro and Co, hotpaxx or Amorge. Stay away from BTR batteries. Hope that helps!
Hi Chris, I hope you still reply to comments. I was wondering uppon extensive use, does your controler was getting hot? I plan to use this kit on a av boat conversion, so it will run mid range for long time and maybe some pulls if possible. I am wondering if I will need to cool the controler as well as the motor. (I will cool the motor for sure)
I didn't notice it get it very hot, but definitely warm after some medium-duty useage for 1 hour. If you're going to be running the boat for a long time at mid throttle, I'd consider adding some cooling to the controller as well. Cool build, good luck!
Hi, I am a highschooler in the STEM academy, and my group's capstone project was to make a gasoline powered lawnmower into an electric vehicle. We bought this kit to do our connection, and believe we have everything connected right, but it is not working. Is there any way we can get on a zoom call with you and show you our project and connection in hopes of fixing it?
Hey sorry for the late reply, check that all your wires are connected correctly and you're using the throttle that came with the kit. Hope you figured it out, good luck!
Can I use the motor alone with my own speed control knob and plug it in? Will it work? I don’t need those other parts. I’m using it for a different project.
This is a brushless motor so you will need some sort of controller or ESC in order to spin the motor and control the speed of it. But yes, you could use this motor for lots of things! Thanks for watching
The choppy throttle is a result of the controller, which uses a square-wave power output. This makes the controller cost less money, but also less smooth when putting down the power.
Can you use the original mx650 battery to connect the vevor connector and motor and how do you know when you drilled a deep enough hole? When you attach your battery does that effect the plastic design on it
The Vevor motor kit is 48V or larger and the stock batteries are 36V total (three batteries at 12V each) so you can add another SLA battery to get to 48V but the bike won't be as fast and his because he has a larger battery. I installed a 48V lithium battery and get to 30mph with plenty of power.
If I was you, I would save up for a good quality lithium ion battery, because the stock razor lead acids are really cheap and wont give you much ride time, and they will also give you less power.
Hey im doing a similar build and deciding on a battery. You've made a 52v 30ah battery work despite vevor spec being 48v. If i was to use an amazon bought 52v 20ah battery, would this degrade or possibly break the motor as apposed to a 48v 20ah? Is this technically overvolting?
Would a 48v 10000 mah battrey work with this kit and also what would happend if the main red and black wire on controller touch and spark (twice) i hope i didnt burn out the controller
You can put it on anything really! The mounting holes have standard dimensions, and the sprocket can be changed out. Just use whatever battery that fits your needs and it should be plenty powerful!
I am hopefully installing this motor tonight. What did you do with the green blue and yellow wires coming from the motor with circle connectors? The diagram shows them matching up with the controller’s same colored wires. They both have the circle connectors and the bike doesn’t really have metal grounded bolts anywhere. Thanks Actually I am looking at it now and just realized my original charging wire is backwards and the positive is not matching the controller positive
@@ChrisBuissonDIY well things didn’t go well. I am 95% sure everything is wired correctly. I test drove it, it’s not any faster than the original motor. Speed 1 is very slow. Speed 2 is faster and speed 3 does nothing. I attempted to plug in the charger and it sparked. Scared the hell out of me. Not sure why it sparked, the wires are correct.
@@Jsosodke I got absolutely nowhere with calling the company either. They sent me a cleaner copy of the instructions, but the same issues persist. My son kind of doesn’t care anymore so I left it as is.
@@WardoUSA damn that sucks to hear, my current problem right now is that every time I give throttle, the motors moves like a millimeter and no more then that. I have no idea how to fix it
I have the same motor but I upgraded the controller to a beefier, 45 amp controller. My top speed right now on the stock sprocket is around 25. I see that you are hitting low 30s. Do you know a possible cause for this? I have a 52v battery as well
Could be that your controller has multiple speed settings and it's stuck in a lower speed mode. Hope that helps, if not, time to get a better controller!
@@ChrisBuissonDIY Ok thanks that’s a really good point. Am I able to use a jumper wire from the speed mode pins to get it to a certain speed mode if I don’t have a 3 speed throttle?
With the 72v 3000 watt vevor motor and a 72v 20ah battery from amorge on Facebook, how long of a ride could I get out of that? Say riding on pavement at 160 pounds?
They are not atrocious, yes he could have frayed the wires and put them through each other then soldered, but this will hold up as well since wires aren't getting bended and cheap solder isn't used
Hello for the battery my motor has 2 wires that have a hole at the end of it but it wont match up with the battery, how do i get them to work together??
You don't need to! But it makes the best connection without resistance or heating up in the future. If you use connectors, use high quality connectors rated for the current. hope that makes sense!
Finally! Someone who actually explains all of the processes lol. Thanks man! You’ve got a subscriber
Thanks a bunch for the kind words, I'm glad this video helped! More ebike videos coming 👍
@@ChrisBuissonDIY no prob! This is also pretty much my exact setup at the moment 52v/2kw vevor and with it being the first I want to make sure I know exactly what to do so this is awesome. Looks like I only have a few connectors left to order and I can start the build! Thanks again looking fwd to the new content!
I love what you're doing here, *I know its more of an opinion, but those solder joints would be stronger and have less resistance if you braided/joined the two wire ends before soldering. Much Love!!!!
Appreciate the feedback, I'll look at doing that for next time!
Absolutely fire video mate. Great explanation of everything and love the way the video is put together 👌🏼👌🏼
Im new to wiring, so instead of soldering the wires could i just twist them together?
No, You need a solid connection
Great vid! gonna try to mod a pocket mod
is there another way besides soldering the two wires together?
Best vid out there!!🔥🔥🔥
hey bud ill give u 2 snowmobiles to make a project out of
Haha that sounds like a fun time but I live in Florida 😭 we don't get much snow down here 😂
@@ChrisBuissonDIY i tore the skies off and added gocart wheels
@@MrMbuttrondo you still have this?
@@davysgarage yes
Can i have 1 @@MrMbuttron
How did you get vevor to sponsor you??
Would you recommend installing a fuse?
Good idea if you're using lead acid batteries, as those don't have a BMS. Or if you have a lithium battery and want extra safety, you could add a fuse, but most lithium batteries have a BMS that will disconnect power in case too many amps are pulled. Hope that makes sense!
I have never tried any razors but do u think the rambler 12 could handle the vevor 2000w kit?
I have a budget of around 800 ($CAD) and I want to upgrade the Razor pocket mod moped with this video.
Would these be compatible with the moped razor? awesome video man
do you have a new link for the battery? it doesn't work at the moment...
Can I have the old electrical components please 🙏
So if you wanted, could you use just the stock throttle? And with that new motor do you have to get a bigger battery or could you also use the 3 stock batteries? And i love the way you explained everything, you made it seem so simple. Thnk u.😁👍
Quick question.. I bought this same kit, decided to test fresh out of the box, hooked up all the wires like the directions stated, used my 36v to test, getting 36v Into the controller, 36v to the ignition switch, 36v back into the controller but only getting 5v into the 3 speed switch and throttle. nothing changes when the throttle is Engaged. No voltage to phase wires at all. Have you encountered this or. Possibly. Know what's going on or if I have a junky controller?
I am not seeing if you used a fuse between the controller and battery. If so, is it 40 amp and 52 volt fuse and holder?
I chose not to use a fuse, you can throw one in there but there's also a BMS for overcurrent discharge in the battery, so it's not likely to be a problem.
So what’s the point of the electric lock on the throttle do I need to have that plugged in for it work?
How would you turn the bike off with the throttle that comes with the kit
I connected everything up as instructed and when I give it throttle the motor barely spins like a millimeter no more then that. Any tips how to fix it
The battery I wanna know how to make my own help me please !!
Bonjour j'ai le même en 3000w et quand j'accélère il fait un bruit aiguë et navence pas
If I wire on a fuse will it work still cause I just did it and it keeps sparkign
Sure, you could put a fuse between the battery and controller, but make sure it's rated for slightly more amps than the controller is pulling 👍
I just got one for Christmas
do you need a freewheel for this type of motor?
where did you get the battery from
I have a vevor motor with 48v everything but when i twist the throttle the motor goes a tiny bit then stops. Any tips?
Hola tendria un manual de instalación de modulador para bike Jetson 36 volt
Hello, do you know the gear ratio’s and the diameter of the wheel?
What size is the sprocket that you used?
Stock sprockets front and rear 👍
so i just got a Trailmaster Cheetah i6 for my kids christmas present, brand new, just delivered and assembled today. It supposedly has 3 speeds, L/M/H. however, its only switching L/M, M/H speed selection does nothing to increase the speed. Thinking its just the switch?
Ebike manufacturers sometimes forget to plug things in at the factory, I'd recommend taking the covers off and checking to see if the wire is plugged in, kinked, or broken. Good luck!
I love bro TYSM ❤
Can hill up 15•? Degree
could you do this with no welding? i have no welder and i want to build one
Yeah! You don't need a welder to build one, just a saw-zall to cut off the battery tray if you're putting in a larger battery like me.
Whats the size of the battery box?
Hey what battery are you using is it just 1 battery or more?
How much was the price at the end of the bike
what battery would you recommend using with this kit? I tried your battery link but it doesn't seem to work. Thanks!
Caoomm batteries cna be found on ebay or sometimes Amazon, and they're reliable for a build like this (48v20ah). You can also get a battery from Electro and Co, hotpaxx or Amorge. Stay away from BTR batteries. Hope that helps!
@@ChrisBuissonDIY ok awesome thanks!
Hi Chris, I hope you still reply to comments. I was wondering uppon extensive use, does your controler was getting hot? I plan to use this kit on a av boat conversion, so it will run mid range for long time and maybe some pulls if possible. I am wondering if I will need to cool the controler as well as the motor. (I will cool the motor for sure)
I didn't notice it get it very hot, but definitely warm after some medium-duty useage for 1 hour. If you're going to be running the boat for a long time at mid throttle, I'd consider adding some cooling to the controller as well. Cool build, good luck!
Hi, I am a highschooler in the STEM academy, and my group's capstone project was to make a gasoline powered lawnmower into an electric vehicle. We bought this kit to do our connection, and believe we have everything connected right, but it is not working. Is there any way we can get on a zoom call with you and show you our project and connection in hopes of fixing it?
Hey sorry for the late reply, check that all your wires are connected correctly and you're using the throttle that came with the kit. Hope you figured it out, good luck!
Can I use the motor alone with my own speed control knob and plug it in? Will it work? I don’t need those other parts. I’m using it for a different project.
This is a brushless motor so you will need some sort of controller or ESC in order to spin the motor and control the speed of it. But yes, you could use this motor for lots of things! Thanks for watching
I got the motec with an electric and co controller that thing rips
I can't wait to mod mine! Sounds sick
Hi, this motor kit need battery lead-acid or does it work with a lithium battery?
It will work with either battery!
The power output issue is the controller itself right?
The choppy throttle is a result of the controller, which uses a square-wave power output. This makes the controller cost less money, but also less smooth when putting down the power.
Thanks, Chris. Seems like I will copy your work.
Would this work on a 350?
The motor won't fit, it would need an adapter some people sell on facebook
What are the chances of the motor breaking or controller breaking?
Both are pretty reliable, unless you run too much power and overheat either the motor or controller.
Bro what battery did you use here? Doesn’t show on the link on your description. Thanks
I built the battery myself used recycled cells! I have a couple videos on my channel showing my methods on battery building
Can you use the original mx650 battery to connect the vevor connector and motor and how do you know when you drilled a deep enough hole? When you attach your battery does that effect the plastic design on it
The Vevor motor kit is 48V or larger and the stock batteries are 36V total (three batteries at 12V each) so you can add another SLA battery to get to 48V but the bike won't be as fast and his because he has a larger battery. I installed a 48V lithium battery and get to 30mph with plenty of power.
If I was you, I would save up for a good quality lithium ion battery, because the stock razor lead acids are really cheap and wont give you much ride time, and they will also give you less power.
Hey im doing a similar build and deciding on a battery. You've made a 52v 30ah battery work despite vevor spec being 48v. If i was to use an amazon bought 52v 20ah battery, would this degrade or possibly break the motor as apposed to a 48v 20ah? Is this technically overvolting?
It would not break, but yeah it’s technically overvolting. It’s beter to just buy a 48v 1800w.
Fastest youve got this to go?
With this setup it was like 30mph tops
How fast will this go?
Also how long does battery last?
he said at the end of the video
How much top speed?
I’ve seen builds similar like this. They go around 40-60mph. Depending on your moter and battery.
Would a 48v 10000 mah battrey work with this kit and also what would happend if the main red and black wire on controller touch and spark (twice) i hope i didnt burn out the controller
I got this kit off somebody where they had a sofada battrey with is sparked because I touched the positive to the negative
If you connect a battery the wrong way, most times it will fry the controller or battery BMS.
What new chain should I use?
Use any but if it is to not make it smaller
Hey i have a question.
Does it have to be a razor bike or could i put it on my escooter
You can put it on anything really! The mounting holes have standard dimensions, and the sprocket can be changed out. Just use whatever battery that fits your needs and it should be plenty powerful!
NIcely done!
Thanks Shwell!
Whats the small connector on your battery?
The bigger one is an XT-60 connector for the controller, the smaller one is a DC barrel plug for my charger! Thanks for watching :)
I am hopefully installing this motor tonight.
What did you do with the green blue and yellow wires coming from the motor with circle connectors?
The diagram shows them matching up with the controller’s same colored wires.
They both have the circle connectors and the bike doesn’t really have metal grounded bolts anywhere.
Thanks
Actually I am looking at it now and just realized my original charging wire is backwards and the positive is not matching the controller positive
Personally I just cut those connectors off and soldered the wires together, but you can also use a MR60 connector. Hope that helps
@@ChrisBuissonDIY well things didn’t go well. I am 95% sure everything is wired correctly. I test drove it, it’s not any faster than the original motor.
Speed 1 is very slow. Speed 2 is faster and speed 3 does nothing.
I attempted to plug in the charger and it sparked. Scared the hell out of me. Not sure why it sparked, the wires are correct.
@@WardoUSAbro I encountered all the problems you just mentioned, let me know how you fixed them
@@Jsosodke I got absolutely nowhere with calling the company either. They sent me a cleaner copy of the instructions, but the same issues persist. My son kind of doesn’t care anymore so I left it as is.
@@WardoUSA damn that sucks to hear, my current problem right now is that every time I give throttle, the motors moves like a millimeter and no more then that. I have no idea how to fix it
I have the same motor but I upgraded the controller to a beefier, 45 amp controller. My top speed right now on the stock sprocket is around 25. I see that you are hitting low 30s. Do you know a possible cause for this? I have a 52v battery as well
Could be that your controller has multiple speed settings and it's stuck in a lower speed mode. Hope that helps, if not, time to get a better controller!
@@ChrisBuissonDIY Ok thanks that’s a really good point. Am I able to use a jumper wire from the speed mode pins to get it to a certain speed mode if I don’t have a 3 speed throttle?
With the 72v 3000 watt vevor motor and a 72v 20ah battery from amorge on Facebook, how long of a ride could I get out of that? Say riding on pavement at 160 pounds?
i can buy a $200 72v battery and it will last about 5 hours and has maybe a couple thousand cycles from charging 0-100,
72v3000w will last about 3-5 hour ride
What razor is that
Mx500
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Does this work on the original razor motor?😊
no
Was there any delay in the throttle?
No delay in throttle, but it's definitely sensitive!
We have to SOLDER??
could use xd60 connecter
@@sierraandnick how do u connect them ? Cz everty vid i watched doesnt explain
@@sierraandnick it literally says u have tp do some soldering to connect wires to the xt60
TBH, that solder job at 3:30 was atrocious! How many minutes of riding did you get before that failed?
They are not atrocious, yes he could have frayed the wires and put them through each other then soldered, but this will hold up as well since wires aren't getting bended and cheap solder isn't used
Yo bro where do u get your razor bikes from ?
Facebook marketplace, offerup, or craigslist!
Do you make batteries for sale brother?
No sorry, but you can find custom batteries if you search for them. Many people I know use a company called Amorge Battery on facebook.
Hello for the battery my motor has 2 wires that have a hole at the end of it but it wont match up with the battery, how do i get them to work together??
If you're motor has 2 wires, it's a brushed motor and won't work with a brushless motor controller.
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Yo do you have to solder the controller/motor connectors if you dont want to? Great vid btw
You don't need to! But it makes the best connection without resistance or heating up in the future. If you use connectors, use high quality connectors rated for the current. hope that makes sense!
@@ChrisBuissonDIY thanks for the info it rlly helps
@@ChrisBuissonDIYhow do i chck what adapters are compatible and high quality ik u said chrck the current but how do i check thst