Please tell the required Parts to purchase for ptu service for my ford edge. How many liter of 75w140 oil packet required. Dealer suggestion to replace the whole PTU as they have ex-stock whole PTU. My car is Ford edge 2014 Limited 3.5L V6
nice vid, thanks. You can put grease on the end of your tap and run it a few threads at a time and back out as you go and clean off all of the chips and apply new grease.
one good idea is to mount a piece of metal separating the exhaust from the PTU and adding a fluid cooler in line with the fill and drain plugs and a recirculating pump
Ford should have to recall and replace every single one of these with a modified design that has a usable drain and refill. Terrible design guaranteed to fail. And yes I realize they put a "drain" in some of them, but you can't open it and even if you can, you have to be very creative to refill.
You make things look so easy. Glad it worked out for you. Goes to show there's more than one way to skin a cat. AJ is a cutie. Take care and stay safe out there. GOD BLESS Y'ALL.
my wife has same 2012 mkx, i bought it for me but she drove it once and took it. 😢Had to go back to my f150. Been waiting to pull the trigger on this project for a while so now sis the time to do it. Thanks for the video
Just replaced the PTU on my 39k mile Lincoln MKS. Found a updated unit with heat shield and drain plug. 30% of the cost from Ford. I'll be changing the gear oil every 10k miles.
Better than the first video i seen on this ( the Other video I'm video Im talking about wasn't 1 of urs ) glad u showed What the dirty oil looked like and more info thank u
Not exactly. With all the gears in there, there isn't much clearance to snake a siphon tube down in between them, to get to the low point in the housing. A drain plug is the practical way, and, much easier for regular servicing.
A local pal bought one of there for $1000, the whole vehicle, 86k miles. The PTU was split in two from bearing seizure. He took the PTU out and obtained new from dealership. I helped him put it back together, and noticed the new PTU has both drain and fill plug, the fill hole and screw is new to the design. Horrible placement of cat, as it bakes the PTU. The old unit looked like it contained dried asphalt. You provide a great solution, when drain hole not present, and this gearbox should be serviced on a 10k interval, maybe even more often. Your placement has much better access than the new design.
@@SpeedBumpGarage it went very well I flushed hers 3 times with trans fluid .driving it 3 miles in between each flush . Now it's clean and running royal purple in proper weight .thanks again brother.
I had to replace that unit on my daughter's 2007 Edge. It had gone bad and was making a lot of noise. It was no fun plus the new one was over $600. And at that time it hard to get a new there was such a backlog of this job.
Usually you use a suction pump and drain it through the fill plug. Do you have a tow package on that Lincoln? The reason I ask if you have a factory tow package they usually have a transmission cooler, if you don't I'd suggest installing a tranny cooler, cost is about 60 bucks and easy install (hardest part is taking off all the crap from the grill to access the radiator), as a "metal man" you might consider fabricating a removable heat shield to help protect the unit from that Catalytic converter, and exhaust pipe. I drive a Honda Pilot AWD and their are many issues with that as well. Great video, that drain plug is much easier then the suction method, better chance of getting it all. (Although Ford says serviced for life, they obviously give you an option with that fill plug, or it would be completely sealed with no place to add fluid)
I do have the tow package but I honestly haven't checked for a trans cooler. I was actually going to suck the fluid out until I seen how easy the plug was going to be to install. Thanks for watching!
I picked up a cheap vacuum pump that I hook to my air compressor. every 10k miles (every other oil change) I use it to suck out all the old gear oil and replace with new. just fill until it starts running out the fill hole. If I ever need to replace the PTU, Ill put in a drain plug.
I’m not sure how you could do it because it is not a pressurized system. The gears are actually in the oil like a traditional rear differential. I honestly think regular service will cure the problem.
Thanks for the video. Very informative and having the measurements is key; you don't want to drill in the wrong spot on the PTU.😎 Curious, on your 2nd drain, did you have the fill plug removed before you started it? Seemed to drain very slowly. Also agree with you that because you waited a long time to do your 1st drain, it's going to take some time to get the residual sludge build up out. I've seen a TH-cam with PTU's disassembled and the sludge build up can be really bad (very thick). I did my first drain and refill (through the fill hole) with just over 60,000 miles on my 13 MKX and while the fluid was dirty, it wasn't as bad as yours. We have cold winters where I live, so maybe that helps with keeping the temps down....at least half the year. Anyone leaving in a hot climate should install the drain plug and/or do the drain and re-fill through the fill hole. Thanks to your video, I think I'll tackle installing the drain plug. 👍. PS> Having a lift makes this job WAY easier.
Thank God my 2021 explorer has a regular diff in front not like the 2019 and older that has a ptu also You can also use a vacuum pump to suck out the oil
Thank you for this great video. I'd like to drill and tap the PTU on my wife's 2010 Escape. I've already sucked the fluid out from the fill hole a couple times, but would rather be able to drain it next time. The Escape PTU is different looking than on your MKX. How do I know where to drill on the Escape case??
Would a retro fitted heat shield between the cat and the PTU prevent some of the cooking effect of the gear lube? I have an Edge but its a FWD so no PTU. Just curious.
Hello, thanks a lot for this great video. Do you recommend to spray inside the PTU, some carburator cleaner to rainse all the gears before suck out the old dirty fluids?
Flushing fresh oil through it is all I was comfortable with. I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to get the cleaner fully drained. Flush it with new oil, top it off and service it again in a few thousand miles. I think running it with the new oil will help get it cleaned up with frequent services. Thanks for watching.
I have wondered if a company like BG has some kind of cleaner/flushing agent for the ptu. Sure would nice to drain, add cleaner, spin driveline to agitate, drain then fill.
Think I'm going to do this this Spring. 2019 Ford Taurus Limited AWD. Has anyone found, or used a flushing agent to use after it has drained? I'm sure there's still some leftovers that'd I'd like to get out. Seen a guy use brake cleaner & a lil hose hooked to the can to rinse it out. He could move the lil hose around & get better angles to flush it out. Just wondering if anyone has tried that, & if so how'd it go?
@@SpeedBumpGarage With a fill plug, I can imagine Ford would plan to suck the oil out. Wonder why it is not one of their 30k mile services??? Good video!
Did you try inserting a small tube into the fill plug and sucking out the old fluid? Seems a bit extreme to drill into the housing. Have you had any problems with leaks or metal shavings in the PTU since?
There really isn't a lot of clearance between the gears and the inner housing. It would be difficult, if not impossible, to get a tube to curve around those gears, to get to the low point in the housing. (I'm not sure you can even do it with a fish aquarium tube) A drain plug is the only practical solution, and, makes regular servicing MUCH easier!
why did you do this?? were you already having issues? My 2011 Ford Edge needs a PTU replacement according to the dealer... it as been leaking for some time I guess. Im trying to find out if there is time to say this one or is it too late?
From what I've read, the oil that leaking is coming from the vent hole as the gears are getting hot from no lubrication and is cooking the oil out. The gear oil has been contaminated with metal shavings and is no longerl lubing the gears. It is probably too late now to save the PTU.
I’m about a year and a half in on my original drain plug install and haven’t had any leaks since. I’m servicing every 10,000 because of how dirty it was.
WTF?? I don't know as I didn't go thru all the comments but it you use a 7/16" drill your 1/4" tap is just going to fall into the transfer case! From the looks of the plug and drill hole you must mean a 1/2 X 16 tap.
9 months ago I could buy the new ptu for $700 something and I have no idea what labor would cost. I figured I didn’t have anything to lose so I drilled a hole in mine.
@@SpeedBumpGarage Jut did a little research. A reman PTU goes for about $1,000 for the part itself plus a $400 core charge. I don't even want to know what goes into replacing the unit itself.
A genuine ford box will cost 1600$ without labor. People rarely pay this out of warranty. Why ? the Chinese make them for less than half the cost. More like 600$. Dorman Products LLC also manufacturing enhanced box with heat shield. All those 3rd party have extra drain hole of course.
I'm sure a mechanic would charge many times more, than it would cost you, even if you had to buy the 7/16 drill bit, ratchet wrench, extension, socket, tap, drain plug, and the gear oil. If you bought a cordless drill with battery and charger, you might finally be close to what a shop would charge. Then from there on, its a simple DIY task, costing only the gear lube. If I remember right, these power transfer units only hold 1/2 quart. If not too much is lost during filling, you might get 2 services out of one quart. Very minimal cost, to greatly prolong the service life of a very expensive component!
After rendering the PTU fully servicable consider modding the washer fluid low circuit to serve as a low coolant alert: th-cam.com/video/KTSvdINGsmI/w-d-xo.html
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Way to service a non-serviceable part, Kent! I'm impressed!!! A+++ video!
Thanks Dr. Lee!
Please tell the required Parts to purchase for ptu service for my ford edge. How many liter of 75w140 oil packet required. Dealer suggestion to replace the whole PTU as they have ex-stock whole PTU. My car is Ford edge 2014 Limited 3.5L V6
Do i need to buy the new drain plugs
Watched from Yosemite Kentucky.
I own a 2011 AWD SEL Ford Flex with 132k miles on it. I plan to do this on it. Thanks much for showing how to do this.
nice vid, thanks. You can put grease on the end of your tap and run it a few threads at a time and back out as you go and clean off all of the chips and apply new grease.
Such a good job explaining that. I know nothing about fixing cars and I even think I could do it. Great video 💙
Thanks for watching!
one good idea is to mount a piece of metal separating the exhaust from the PTU and adding a fluid cooler in line with the fill and drain plugs and a recirculating pump
I think a heat shield would help a lot. Hopefully it won’t need a cooler with regular services
Ford should have to recall and replace every single one of these with a modified design that has a usable drain and refill. Terrible design guaranteed to fail. And yes I realize they put a "drain" in some of them, but you can't open it and even if you can, you have to be very creative to refill.
It's a poor design for sure
You make things look so easy. Glad it worked out for you. Goes to show there's more than one way to skin a cat. AJ is a cutie. Take care and stay safe out there. GOD BLESS Y'ALL.
Thank You and thanks for watching
Boy you sure know what you're doing there Kent. Brave soul you are. Nicely done and glad you shared. Hi AJ!
I don't know about brave lol. When they tell you it has to be replaced you don't have much to lose lol. Thanks for watching
A.J is growing fast ,,,those two are lucky to have nice parents like that
He is getting big! I’m pretty lucky to have them as well!
Always happy to see service on a non serviceable part anything to stay away from the stealer
My thoughts exactly! Thanks for watching
my wife has same 2012 mkx, i bought it for me but she drove it once and took it. 😢Had to go back to my f150.
Been waiting to pull the trigger on this project for a while so now sis the time to do it.
Thanks for the video
Good luck! It is an easy job
Just replaced the PTU on my 39k mile Lincoln MKS. Found a updated unit with heat shield and drain plug. 30% of the cost from Ford. I'll be changing the gear oil every 10k miles.
Nice detail. I'm doing this to our MKX this weekend. I have no worries now. Thanks
Better than the first video i seen on this ( the Other video I'm video Im talking about wasn't 1 of urs ) glad u showed What the dirty oil looked like and more info thank u
Thanks Natalie, Hope it was helpful
You don't have to split the case you just suck it out of the fill hole. Putting a drain plug in is awesome though 👌
I wanted to flush as much trash out as possible so I thought a drain plug was my best option
Not exactly. With all the gears in there, there isn't much clearance to snake a siphon tube down in between them, to get to the low point in the housing. A drain plug is the practical way, and, much easier for regular servicing.
Thank you for this video! Just completed this service on my 2008 ford edge
If you were my neighbor I’d definitely keep you in business with our vehicles. always something with them. lol
Lol it sounds like we have the same luck with vehicles
A local pal bought one of there for $1000, the whole vehicle, 86k miles.
The PTU was split in two from bearing seizure.
He took the PTU out and obtained new from dealership.
I helped him put it back together, and noticed the new PTU has both drain and fill plug, the fill hole and screw is new to the design.
Horrible placement of cat, as it bakes the PTU. The old unit looked like it contained dried asphalt.
You provide a great solution, when drain hole not present, and this gearbox should be serviced on a 10k interval, maybe even more often.
Your placement has much better access than the new design.
Great video. Your layout of drill position was clear and concise.
Thanks man I'm getting ready to do my wife's 07 mkx .good video.
Thanks! Good luck
@@SpeedBumpGarage it went very well I flushed hers 3 times with trans fluid .driving it 3 miles in between each flush . Now it's clean and running royal purple in proper weight .thanks again brother.
Nicely done! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Boss man showed up at the end!! Time to get back to work!! Lol
He definitely didn’t want to waste anymore time on Mom’s car lol
"That was easy!!" Sure was. Great vid and Great ending!!
Thanks 👍
I had to replace that unit on my daughter's 2007 Edge. It had gone bad and was making a lot of noise. It was no fun plus the new one was over $600. And at that time it hard to get a new there was such a backlog of this job.
Its a pretty simple transfer case that I think should last a long time if it’s serviced. Obviously not a great idea by Ford on this one.
Usually you use a suction pump and drain it through the fill plug. Do you have a tow package on that Lincoln? The reason I ask if you have a factory tow package they usually have a transmission cooler, if you don't I'd suggest installing a tranny cooler, cost is about 60 bucks and easy install (hardest part is taking off all the crap from the grill to access the radiator), as a "metal man" you might consider fabricating a removable heat shield to help protect the unit from that Catalytic converter, and exhaust pipe. I drive a Honda Pilot AWD and their are many issues with that as well. Great video, that drain plug is much easier then the suction method, better chance of getting it all. (Although Ford says serviced for life, they obviously give you an option with that fill plug, or it would be completely sealed with no place to add fluid)
I do have the tow package but I honestly haven't checked for a trans cooler. I was actually going to suck the fluid out until I seen how easy the plug was going to be to install. Thanks for watching!
I picked up a cheap vacuum pump that I hook to my air compressor. every 10k miles (every other oil change) I use it to suck out all the old gear oil and replace with new. just fill until it starts running out the fill hole. If I ever need to replace the PTU, Ill put in a drain plug.
I considered that but I wanted to flush it out. I think frequent services with the vacuum pump would have prevented all of my issues
that's a very good thing to know thanks, super video
Thanks for watching
Great video, i think I'm gonna give this a try.
I’m over a year into this repair and my PTU hasn’t leaked another drop. Good luck!
AWESOME! Wish I had the guts to do that. I have a 2019 Explorer and took it to the dealer for this service at 50K and they charged me $100.
My shop charges about the same to suck it out and refill. I just bought an extraction pump and plan on doing it myself. It is very doable.
What happiness with your starliner
Nice, thanks for the vid. I am super jealous of your garage!
Thanks you
Very interesting video
Thanks!
Great job A+++++
Thanks for showing this.
Hope it helps!
I'm considering purchasing a Lincoln MKT and they have this same problem. I was wondering about installing an auxiliary cooler.
I’m not sure how you could do it because it is not a pressurized system. The gears are actually in the oil like a traditional rear differential. I honestly think regular service will cure the problem.
Bless you friend!
Thanks!
Appreciate the video
Thanks for the help , I have a 2013 ford flex and I'm going to try to drill a hole in mine, it got 140000 miles I think it's time
Edge, Flex, and Taurus, too.
Thanks! It really is a big problem on a lot of models
Thanks for the video. Very informative and having the measurements is key; you don't want to drill in the wrong spot on the PTU.😎
Curious, on your 2nd drain, did you have the fill plug removed before you started it? Seemed to drain very slowly. Also agree with you that because you waited a long time to do your 1st drain, it's going to take some time to get the residual sludge build up out. I've seen a TH-cam with PTU's disassembled and the sludge build up can be really bad (very thick). I did my first drain and refill (through the fill hole) with just over 60,000 miles on my 13 MKX and while the fluid was dirty, it wasn't as bad as yours. We have cold winters where I live, so maybe that helps with keeping the temps down....at least half the year. Anyone leaving in a hot climate should install the drain plug and/or do the drain and re-fill through the fill hole. Thanks to your video, I think I'll tackle installing the drain plug.
👍. PS> Having a lift makes this job WAY easier.
Having a lift spoils me! I did not drain any before the video on the second service. Good luck!
Хорошая работа👍
excellent mod
It is still going strong
Good job.
Thanks!
great video
Thanks!
Nice job
Great!!! Thank you
Thanks for watching
Thank you 👍🏽
No problem 👍
great video !
Thanks!
Didn't mean to add the extra ( video Im ) n my last comment guess i should have read it before i sent it
Say hi to your little buddy for me…….
09-12 Ford Flex AWD as well
Thanks!
Thank God my 2021 explorer has a regular diff in front not like the 2019 and older that has a ptu also
You can also use a vacuum pump to suck out the oil
Thank you for this great video. I'd like to drill and tap the PTU on my wife's 2010 Escape. I've already sucked the fluid out from the fill hole a couple times, but would rather be able to drain it next time. The Escape PTU is different looking than on your MKX. How do I know where to drill on the Escape case??
I really thought it would be the same. I would try and find a parts diagram or a picture of one that has the case split for repairs.
@@SpeedBumpGarage Thank you for your advice. I appreciate you!
Drove it home from work? I actually thought that was your shop where you did work! P.S. Just found your channel. Impressive! Subbed.
Lol I work in there a lot but still have to hold down a day job. Thanks for watching!
WOW ! THANKS FOR SHARING THAT KENT. THAT IS AND WILL BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL. ANY WORD ABOUT THE 78 FORD PICKUP?
The little blue truck is leaving us tomorrow…
@@SpeedBumpGarage please video as much as you can.
Buy a drain plug that has a magnet on the end
Would a retro fitted heat shield between the cat and the PTU prevent some of the cooking effect of the gear lube? I have an Edge but its a FWD so no PTU. Just curious.
I would help for sure
Awesome video
I appreciate it!
I am replacing the oil seal and dust cover in my PTU as we speak I will also be adding a drain plug
@@teddysgunshop2318 Good call! They should have had one from the factory
Hello, thanks a lot for this great video. Do you recommend to spray inside the PTU, some carburator cleaner to rainse all the gears before suck out the old dirty fluids?
Flushing fresh oil through it is all I was comfortable with. I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to get the cleaner fully drained. Flush it with new oil, top it off and service it again in a few thousand miles. I think running it with the new oil will help get it cleaned up with frequent services. Thanks for watching.
@@SpeedBumpGarage Hi Kent thanks for your quick response! I have completed my first PTU fluid change and will follow up your recomendation.
I have wondered if a company like BG has some kind of cleaner/flushing agent for the ptu. Sure would nice to drain, add cleaner, spin driveline to agitate, drain then fill.
Think I'm going to do this this Spring. 2019 Ford Taurus Limited AWD. Has anyone found, or used a flushing agent to use after it has drained? I'm sure there's still some leftovers that'd I'd like to get out. Seen a guy use brake cleaner & a lil hose hooked to the can to rinse it out. He could move the lil hose around & get better angles to flush it out. Just wondering if anyone has tried that, & if so how'd it go?
The rear differential is non serviceable in these cars too right? Can a mod like this be done to the rear differential to drain all the fluid?
Could you use something to suck the fluid out of the drain plug or does it restrict you?
Ford should have a total recall. bankrupt them.
Pretty sure the escape is the same too.
I think so too. Had my mkx on the lift today! PTU still going strong and not leaking 💪🏻
At Ford, QUALITY is Job #1! 😂
Very helpful video. Where are you located?I would like you do same for my 2016 Explorer
You said use a 7/16” drill bit, but then you said use 1/4” plug. Did I misunderstand? Love your videos.
1/4” NPT plug is correct. Outside diameter of 1/4” pipe is a little over 1/2”
@@SpeedBumpGarage my bad; of course it is. Getting old, don’t you know. Lol
Can you do my 2015 Explorer?
Hi bud did you take heat shield off to drill hole in ptu
I did not. Mine didn’t have one in the way
Ok thank u mine has one might just remove it for good more air moves through there without it lol
Hello Kent! Glad I ran into your video, I bought a 2015 Ford Taurus SHO with 52k miles. Will this modification work on this car?
From what I have read it should be the same. Maybe screenshot my video and compare mine to the unit on your car.
Nice. Where are you located? I would like lincoln to be done.
I'm in Oklahoma
Would these be the same as a 2016 ford explorer 3.5 awd??
Did you try suctioning old oil out through the fill hole prior to drilling the case?
I was going to with a vacuum pump but when I saw how easy it was going to be to drill I thought drilling was the better long term option.
@@SpeedBumpGarage With a fill plug, I can imagine Ford would plan to suck the oil out. Wonder why it is not one of their 30k mile services??? Good video!
Did you try inserting a small tube into the fill plug and sucking out the old fluid? Seems a bit extreme to drill into the housing. Have you had any problems with leaks or metal shavings in the PTU since?
You could suck it out but I wanted to flush it really well so decided to drill it out. No issues since and my leak has stopped
There really isn't a lot of clearance between the gears and the inner housing. It would be difficult, if not impossible, to get a tube to curve around those gears, to get to the low point in the housing. (I'm not sure you can even do it with a fish aquarium tube) A drain plug is the only practical solution, and, makes regular servicing MUCH easier!
why did you do this?? were you already having issues? My 2011 Ford Edge needs a PTU replacement according to the dealer... it as been leaking for some time I guess. Im trying to find out if there is time to say this one or is it too late?
From what I've read, the oil that leaking is coming from the vent hole as the gears are getting hot from no lubrication and is cooking the oil out. The gear oil has been contaminated with metal shavings and is no longerl lubing the gears. It is probably too late now to save the PTU.
Is this still a viable fix 11 months later? How often are you servicing? Have you had any leaks on the drain plug?
I’m about a year and a half in on my original drain plug install and haven’t had any leaks since. I’m servicing every 10,000 because of how dirty it was.
Any updates? Did the oil coming out get any cleaner as you changed it out?
It has been a little cleaner every time and the leak stopped.
Huh squeeze bags, I wonder if other companies have made some squeezable bags.
AutoZone is the only place I have seen them and I almost didn’t buy it because I thought it was just cheap packaging lol.
@@SpeedBumpGarage lol borderline genius packaging for tight spaces without having to buy attachments for small bottle pumps.
@@JLC87420 I really liked it! I have the little bottle pump but I make a heck of a mess every time I use it
WTF?? I don't know as I didn't go thru all the comments but it you use a 7/16" drill your 1/4" tap is just going to fall into the transfer case! From the looks of the plug and drill hole you must mean a 1/2 X 16 tap.
Whats the blue thing you put in your plug?
That was Teflon tape (thread sealant)
curious to know what the dealership or mechanic would have charged to replace versus what you did. i’m sure it would be painful!!
very informative.
9 months ago I could buy the new ptu for $700 something and I have no idea what labor would cost. I figured I didn’t have anything to lose so I drilled a hole in mine.
@@SpeedBumpGarage Jut did a little research. A reman PTU goes for about $1,000 for the part itself plus a $400 core charge. I don't even want to know what goes into replacing the unit itself.
@@cats400 it didn’t look too hard to change but I will gladly keep my $1000!
A genuine ford box will cost 1600$ without labor. People rarely pay this out of warranty. Why ? the Chinese make them for less than half the cost. More like 600$. Dorman Products LLC also manufacturing enhanced box with heat shield. All those 3rd party have extra drain hole of course.
I'm sure a mechanic would charge many times more, than it would cost you, even if you had to buy the 7/16 drill bit, ratchet wrench, extension, socket, tap, drain plug, and the gear oil. If you bought a cordless drill with battery and charger, you might finally be close to what a shop would charge. Then from there on, its a simple DIY task, costing only the gear lube. If I remember right, these power transfer units only hold 1/2 quart. If not too much is lost during filling, you might get 2 services out of one quart. Very minimal cost, to greatly prolong the service life of a very expensive component!
After rendering the PTU fully servicable consider modding the washer fluid low circuit to serve as a low coolant alert: th-cam.com/video/KTSvdINGsmI/w-d-xo.html
Good hack to fix a bad engineering job!
Thanks!
slime!! How much mileage did it get that bad!!
I think around 5000 for the second service. It has continued to look better with more frequent services
Car manufacturers must stay awake nights dreaming of ways to leech away the life from their products -=- Tell Me When That Makes Consumer Sense !
Whatever it takes to get you back to buy a new car or new parts!
@@SpeedBumpGarage And usually the price of the parts are more than the value of the vehicle -- Thanks Kent -- Bless You Folks !
Can i drive my fords to you
Can i bring my car to you ?
There's a fill plug on it, you suck the fluid out and refill. No need to drill a hole in it 🤦🏼
Mine had so much gunk built up I wanted a drain to flush it out. I’m almost 2 years in and service it every other oil change