IS JOE KESSLER REAL? THE BOYS SEASON 4 THEORIES AND SPECULATION

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    Hello everyone today I will be talking about the boys season 4 and is joe kessler real? so i hope yall enjoy!

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  • @eliboring482
    @eliboring482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Feel like the parasite is whenever joes speaking and Becca’s acting as his subconscious in a way as a defense mechanism to it, Becca’s trying to keep him in control while Joe is trying let him loose so the parasite can take full control, huge hint towards this being the case is looking at how both venom and him started using “we”

    • @Tek-Knight5592
      @Tek-Knight5592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a solid theory 💥

    • @opiumdennis7249
      @opiumdennis7249 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I thought that too, but still… hmmmmmmm

    • @Tek-Knight5592
      @Tek-Knight5592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@opiumdennis7249 I wonder if Butcher will shoot out tentacles from his body

    • @eliboring482
      @eliboring482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Tek-Knight5592 good chance he either does that or it looks more similar to a symbiote or rather their take on it, my thought is when the host dies the tentacles burst out and rupture

    • @Tek-Knight5592
      @Tek-Knight5592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eliboring482 Ah good point about the tentacles yeah that would be cool if The Boys did their take on a symbiote

  • @RavenLordOfficials
    @RavenLordOfficials 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I think him and becca are acting like the devil and angel on butcher's shoulders. Eventually, hes gonna have to listen to one of them and get rid of the other and i think he'll listen to Becca

  • @NR-fd9wv
    @NR-fd9wv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    "joe just shows up out of nowhere", come on, he is literally standing right next to an open door.

    • @ChristSumabong
      @ChristSumabong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also i would like to mention, hallucinations dont interact with doors and car doors. Lmao

    • @oyra3567
      @oyra3567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ChristSumabongwhat if the doors are hallucinations as well

    • @DevilDogZak
      @DevilDogZak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There’s no way they hired a much larger actor to just rehash the Becca hallucination with him. I think Joe Kessler is going to be a even darker version of butcher, and that’s why he has been so much in the dark, he may even have super powers that he keeps hidden but it’s clear he has something that he’s hiding from even butcher up his sleeve to take soups down with by his attitude, and the way he carries himself with no fear. I think the show runners wanted everyone to think that he was going to be a hallucination Which is what most people think now so when he bust in and kills a bunch of soups, with some kind of swat team with high-tech anti-soup, shit, or something along that lines, it will literally shocked everyone and blow. Everyone’s mines way bigger than if he’s just a hallucination, like everyone thinks. Joe is going to be the Omni Man power set of this universe the super man like abilities like home lander just not the laser vision.

  • @SolarDNA
    @SolarDNA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I feel like we're gonna learn by season's end that Kessler has been dead for a decade or something and is a manifestation of Butcher's parasite.

  • @Richard-wl9wt
    @Richard-wl9wt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Aged like fine wine 😂

  • @etherico3041
    @etherico3041 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Kessler has audible footsteps when he walks. I don’t think Becca does. So I think Kessler is butchers partner hiding in the shadows (especially being government that’s how they operate) and Becca isn’t real. If they both are fake and in his head it wouldn’t make sense for one to have audible footsteps but not the other.

    • @deadacc637
      @deadacc637 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      We never see becca walk bro

    • @kennnnn
      @kennnnn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those are unrelated

    • @Hotwopper
      @Hotwopper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah but from what we know, its Butcher hearing those steps. We know Becca is dead and yet, we still can hear her talk with him

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's always from Butcher's perspective. We'd have to see him interact with another person.

  • @Astrovite
    @Astrovite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When it comes down to it, both hallucinatory characters are really just Butcher himself.
    He has no clue what to actually do with the time he has left, despite outward appearance. ( I know Butcher will probably live but I mean from his perspective).
    I think Butcher is simply lost. And the two manifestations represent the only options he can see.
    But I think there is in fact a 3rd option. Or hallucinated person that is. F**cking Lenny Butcher.
    Imagine Lenny shows up and sets Butcher straight.
    Giving Billy a way he can save Ryan, and ruin Homelander.

  • @TheSuperhomosapien
    @TheSuperhomosapien 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Joe Kessler acts like comic book Billy Butcher.

    • @nggaish
      @nggaish 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He even looks more like it

  • @doujinloverXD
    @doujinloverXD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well after playing MGSV I could see Butcher essentially hallucinating like Venom did, some hallucinations are stronger then others to a degree that the person can't tell what is and isn't real.

  • @finixmoon127
    @finixmoon127 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can't believe I didn't immediately catch on to this after I literally just finished Mr Robot. It's so obvious looking back on it now.

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just rewatched episode one, and the way they shoot Kessler's introduction it seems *really* likely he's not there. So many shots where Butcher is framed alone, talking to nobody.
    I like the direction they've taken. It's probably the best way to go. The show has too many "real" characters anyway.

  • @eddyrobinson1956
    @eddyrobinson1956 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m swaying more towards schizophrenia demon (or in this case, Schizowormia) and i think the idea that becca acts as the angel and kessler acts as the devil on billy’s shoulders is cool

  • @loudtaste1046
    @loudtaste1046 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want butcher to go full comic book version at this point

  • @Yusa25
    @Yusa25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    joe gave the hint he was the one who killed ezekiel. so that means joe is the symbiote inside butcher. And Becca is Butchers moral personality

  • @CosmicAether
    @CosmicAether 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Becker is the Angel and Joe is the Devil on Butchers shoulders.

  • @EpicGamerisREDACTED
    @EpicGamerisREDACTED 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it's true

  • @ZenithAfeyleon
    @ZenithAfeyleon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome vid
    👏🏼👏🏼

  • @afrocreez7360
    @afrocreez7360 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if Joe is a side effect of V

  • @AntiLife
    @AntiLife 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Giving Butcher the drugs makes him seem real but the fact we haven't had a scene where Butcher talks to Joe on the phone before meeting in person like we've had with almost every character makes it confusing. The man just shows up out of nowhere. I think the writers are just having fun with the fans at this point

  • @shakeynige
    @shakeynige 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kesler is in butchers brain, but he can manifest reality. Kesler is Omni Man

  • @nabeelbk9720
    @nabeelbk9720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SPOILER WARNING!
    Ryan kills Grace Mallory Billy kills Victoria Neuman. other Ashley dies in the next episodes. There is no A-Train vs. Homelander. Hughie gets engaged to a shapeshifter posing as Starlight, and the real Starlight finds out and gets pissed. The virus will be created Kimiko gets infected and cuts her leg off, Kimiko speaks for the first time to Frenchie and A-Train survives this season. Main Ashley takes V, and the last scene of the season is Homelander looking at Soldier Boy in his coma.

    • @aravindravi5630
      @aravindravi5630 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope this is not true

    • @nabeelbk9720
      @nabeelbk9720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aravindravi5630 Its been leaked bro.. am sorry so far all leaks are 100% accurate

  • @GustyDoesNothing
    @GustyDoesNothing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joe is the devil on the shoulder and Becca is the angel on the opposite side of

  • @thewindowking
    @thewindowking 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The writers know we are trying to guess what’s going to happen, they are trying to misdirect us into thinking he’s fake so when he kills kimiko we are all shoked

    • @alexmartin3143
      @alexmartin3143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you even kill her without Soldier Boy? Edit: Ohhhh the virus… i’m dumb…

    • @axelerhate9705
      @axelerhate9705 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why kimiko?

  • @omartino9179
    @omartino9179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its very obvious he isnt real

  • @J-Iraqi-
    @J-Iraqi- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Joe was a hallucination he would have one outfit just like Becca when she speaks with Butcher. However, Kessler had so many different outfits as (different shirts, ties, blazers) so he is real.

  • @carlito19934
    @carlito19934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is real he shows up when butcher is with someone else in ep4 i think in a scene in a park everyone also thought homelander was a hallucination but then homelander during the soldier boy fight clearly says the deal of scorched earth is off the table so it wasn't fake they had that convo the show makes it clear when he is having hallucinations people just like to think they figured the mysteries out where there are no mysteries

  • @gogetathestrongestfusion
    @gogetathestrongestfusion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean his clothes at least do change

  • @stormleghost
    @stormleghost 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    is anyone real

  • @leon3295
    @leon3295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do everyone thiks new characters are hallucinations now? WTF.

    • @ninjadino2005
      @ninjadino2005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who's gonna tell him ?

    • @lcidd
      @lcidd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well it’s true

  • @louiswalusimbi8006
    @louiswalusimbi8006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He’s a hallucination just like Becca. It’s been obvious since episode 2

    • @ChristSumabong
      @ChristSumabong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im gonna call you out for this stupid yet so arrogant take when the season end.

    • @louiswalusimbi8006
      @louiswalusimbi8006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChristSumabong you do that prick

    • @ThatAsianGuy68
      @ThatAsianGuy68 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ChristSumabongAre you still gonna do that?

  • @nastynate692
    @nastynate692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Its so obvious maybe he is real because of that . Episode 5. how Butcher can cut his leg ,with what and how he got the Time . Just a thought because its too obvious

    • @AidanDonnelly-sn2nv
      @AidanDonnelly-sn2nv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      with an axe? 💀 and he would of did it when everyone was running away at the barn, pretty obvious

    • @nastynate692
      @nastynate692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AidanDonnelly-sn2nv of course maybe but just cut it of without attention he will bleed out but it was just a thought

    • @AidanDonnelly-sn2nv
      @AidanDonnelly-sn2nv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nastynate692 butcher is a capable man

    • @DLFX1984
      @DLFX1984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@AidanDonnelly-sn2nvand you are the judge of that how? He can barely stand !

    • @errorx_x1063
      @errorx_x1063 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DLFX1984 Counter argument to that: Aurthur Morgan

  • @bujoodoo1
    @bujoodoo1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ya knoooow, ya might be on to something

  • @dobronx4771
    @dobronx4771 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Kinda makes it lackluster since we were hyped to see Neegan. And it doesn’t really work since we haven’t seen this Joe in the previous season.

    • @AntiLife
      @AntiLife 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nobody wanted Negan.... They wanted Jeffery to play a cool character. People need to stop expecting actors to play the same character in different shows 😂 remember the good ol days when good actors had something called range? Fans like this is why Steven Ogg hates the Trevor character

    • @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
      @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you talking about your dumb if you think Neegan was going to be in the show.

  • @alexmartin3143
    @alexmartin3143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If he’s not real how did Butcher snag Sameer?

    • @DevilDogZak
      @DevilDogZak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good catch, guaranteed Joe or his people had something to do with it Billy did not have enough time to do that by himself but a Joe Kessler with OmniMan like power set could do it and do it so fast no one would notice. Kessler is real and he has powers he’s way to comfortable and not afraid of superhero’s at all like he knows he’s invincible. Maybe he got injured like everyone thinks but was given V by the US govt and CIA and is the CIAs secret sup. Thats why he knows he can control Ryan if homelander gets him for him. Gaurentee its a OmniMan or even Soldier Boy type power set. If butcher got homelanders abilities maybe Joe got SoldierBoys since the show has started to show multiple people can get the same power set

  • @JacobRawson-ev2js
    @JacobRawson-ev2js 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #joeisreal

    • @xxmakeouthill23
      @xxmakeouthill23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just found out he’s not 😮

    • @JacobRawson-ev2js
      @JacobRawson-ev2js 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xxmakeouthill23 me too.

  • @jacobjig9550
    @jacobjig9550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can you forget to mention the drugs he gave him? Wtf 😮