@@PatrickKelly-lz3pv indeed we do. In fact, I literally started humming this tune and didn’t know where it was from. Jesus Christ it’s in our blood. Cymru
The non bias nature of this film is amazing, while giving reasons and points to why there is a war it does not demonize either side. This is just men fighting for their nations reasons to fight and much respect is shown, as soldiers.
It has currently been cancelled for political incorrectness. As you say it is not racist. It portrays the Zulus as brave, intelligent and cunning tacticians. They are also very chivalrous. The final scene when the Zulus give up is electrifying. They salute their enemy for being great warriors. The film is about how we can get into conflict, even very violent conflict, yet not lose our humanity.
@@benthejrporter yeah it was very progressive for it's time! also the scene where they let the Priest and his daughter past showed the good side of the Zulus as well.
@@reddyshreddy5050 It is a film filled with decency and humanity. It disgusts me that people SO misrepresent it that it has been banned in some places.
@@benthejrporter Not only that, they paid Zulu actors full rate during apartheid. Those are actual Zulus performing their cultural war dances at a time when their government was actively repressing them, and getting paid to do it.
Kelly. It was his great grandson. His name was Mangosthu Buthelezi,he went on to form the Inkatha freedom party and was Nelson Mandelas main opposition to the ANC.
During early production, the Zulu extras were running by the cameras smiling. No amount of instruction seemed to work. The Director: Cy Endfield, got an idea and played a John Wayne western for the extras. During an Indian attack he, through a translator, explained that this is how he wanted them to act. Apparently, it worked well. The faces of the Zulu in the film are stoic, brave, and quite frankly, terrifying.
I once read that the extras playing the warriors pitched up on set somewhat downtrodden due to the regime prevalent in SA at the time, but grew and became prouder during the filming of the chants. Magnificent warriors and people!
True story. Friend of mine watching this at home when the wife walks in. After a couple of minutes she asks, who are the ones in the red uniforms? Welsh regiment replies my friend. And who are the others? She asks. Zulus. What are all those Zulus doing in Wales!
Interesting as well, B company, snd Battalion, Warwickshire reg. were an English company of an English regiment. The "Welshness" was added because that particular battalion had later become absorbed into the Welsh regiments and added a Celtic joviality to the film. Cracking film, mind - it's a truly great anti-racism film which praises the Zulus as much as it does the British army.
Ivor Emmanuel is incredible. They cast him in this movie just for this scene. I cannot imagine anyone else singing this, his voice is so powerful. I first saw this movie when it came out in 1964 (I was 6). This scene still gives me goosebumps.
In the early 1980s I joined many other British lands working in a steelworks, just a few miles from the battle site. During down time the Zulu lads would form a line across the workshop, sing and dance, working themselves up, and the suddenly with a shout of “Zulu” they would change us armed with steel bars or brush handles. The object of the game was to try to stand still, without taking a step back. I don’t think any of us ever managed it. Dispite that we challenged them to a rematch of rookes drift. Both side equally armed with broom handles. This time it was a Zulu victory. Followed by beer drinking through broken teeth and busted ribs. We all leaned to love the Zulus, they have a very British sense of humour. We broke all the apartheid rules, such as eating in the blacks only mess room, just to spend more time with them.
"At 100 yards! Volley fire, present! Aim! Fire!" Jesus. This scene never fails to send chills running through me. First watched this when I was a young boy, shown it by my Granddad. This was something he always loved, this and the Great Escape, two films that are now close to my heart. Not because of the amazing stories they tell, but for the good memories I have of enjoying them with my Granddad. RIP Granddad, still miss you.
Rick Rescorla, a Welsh expatriate, retired Green Beret saved thousands of lives on 9/11 by leading an orderly evacuation of one of the towers in which he was employed. As people were making the long decent down the stairwell he sang “Men of Harlech” so loud that it was heard almost to the bottom of the tower. He perished when the tower fell as he was scouring the building for more survivors.
I came here looking for this comment. Not only did he lead the evacuation of the Morgan Stanley employees in the South Tower, he predicted the attack years before. He also anticipated the truck bombing that happened in 1993 but was told by the Port Authority to mind his own business. An absolute legend. Rest in peace, Rick.
Great man. British paratrooper who found his way in to Vietnam. Fun fact: He is on the front cover of the famous book “We Were Soldiers and Young”. Col. Hal Moore said he was the best platoon leader he had 🇬🇧🏴🇺🇸
A fabulous portrayal of a clash between radically different cultures. The qualities they hold in common is revealing: bravery and duty towards kinsfolk. These are not just western filmmaker's fictional attributions to both sides to sweeten the palatably of the film for western audiences, I believe these are genuinely universal traits, and it raises the work to greatness by honouring them.
One of my favourite films. This is a great film to watch in ultra HD on a 4K TV, with a good surround sound set up on a high volume🤗👍😜 “Why us Sergeant Major?....Why us?” ........” ‘Cos we’re here lad... nobody else.. just us”
The determination and bravery on both sides is just amazing and the British singing while facing the bone chilling chants of the Zulu warriors is just beautiful, all incredible warriors, An excellent version of the song. Amazing movie.
I remember seeing Zulus doing a war dance when I was in South Africa in the 1970s - they were intimidating, no, terrifying. As part of the dance they stomp the ground so hard, you feel it. I cannot imagine facing them in battle.
Stu McCabe: I can with a large amount of 20/21st century weaponry. Claymore mines defensively will shred them even with those highly armoured leopard skins. Flame thrower usage and finally a dose of 50 calibre machine gun. The Americans staple of choice. And most importantly DON’T take survivors, they’ll go all martyr like through their family. Eradicate all of them and it’s job done. Perhaps not the pacifist option but in this day and age it’s survival of the fittest (and most comprehensively armed!).
Like a Hakka. Can you imagine going up against a Maori battalion? A bunch of screaming guys like Russel Crowe or Jason Mamoa? (I know Jason is Hawaiian but you get the idea... a bit tattooed guy)
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Don't kid yourselves. the Zulus were imperialists too. This wasn't an invasion of some peaceful backwater. This was a clash of empires, and the Zulus had won the first round.
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1Nobody thinks they were equals in terms of technology or development but the movie captures the bravery and fighting spirit of both sides. Obviously if they were equal 150 Brits wouldn’t have been able to stand up to 4000 Zulus but that doesn’t mean that 4000 Zulus aren’t a fearsome force. The 12,000 were able to take the 1,500 man garrison at the beginning of the film after all.
Zulu Soldier: The Welch are chanting! Zulu Commander: So chant louder! Zulu Soldier: Now they’re chanting louder! Zulu Commander: They know our ways.... This will be a good fight!
The scary part is that this wasn't the main Zulu army. It was their reserve force made up of primarily unblooded warriors whose job was to harass and disrupt the British supply trains supporting the main British force (the one that got killed at Ishlawanda).
Ultimate bravery among all soldiers. One side facing numerical impossible odds, impossibly outnumbered and surrounded. Meanwhile the other side impossibly out gunned facing a group of well trained men with far superior technology. Despite this movies apparent patriotism it shows way more respect towards the "enemy" than most American Hollywood films would today let alone when this film came out. Easily the best scene of the film.
I like the final scene better, when Lt. Chard was surveying the Zulu dead after re-enforcements had arrived and Sir Richard Burton recites the names of the men who won VCs there just before Chard plants a Zulu shield in the ground and walks out of picture. Here's a link to a roll of honour for those that won VCs at Rourke's Drift. It also lists those killed in action. th-cam.com/video/BKKTKqYLqRQ/w-d-xo.html
The voices at this part of the movie from both sides have always been my favorite part of the movie. Great big balls on both sides of this engagement. Salute to real men
Blackadder: Have you ever been to Wales, Baldrick? Baldrick: No, but I often thought I'd like to. Blackadder: Well, don't, It's a ghastly place. Huge gangs of tough, sinewy men roam the Valleys, terrorizing people with their close-harmony singing.
Nurse Mary: And no casual girlfriends...? Blackadder: Skirt? Hah! If only... When I joined up, we were still fighting colonial wars. If you saw someone in a skirt, you shot him and nicked his country.
Would you like to provide evidence of that contention? If not, stop being an arse. Are you trying to indicate you are Finnish? Then you probably know fuck all about Celtic/Gaelic history. And finally, if you said that in Wales, you'd have your teeth shoved down your throat.
does it bloody matter that much mate? he's properly just got a good sence of humor. I'm shure he's not that much of a fool. Have a nice life, and may The Forse be with you, and the God's be with you.
over 1000 died a few hours before at Isandlwana, one of the worst losses of a modern army against a native foe. Only 2 Victoria Cross were awarded for that Battle and that was Coghill and Melville for carrying the colours out of the battle. They were later kills and the colours lost. 11 VCs were aware to men at Rorke's Drift. Amazing film on so many levels. If you haven't seen it catch Zulu Dawn, the prequel to this movie
Well considering the majority of people from england actually have more in common with welsh people genetically, its fair to say most English people can feel inspired by this. Except kent and yorkshire, saxon and nordic respectively;)
When I see this scene, and I've seen it many times, I get a tingling in my back and my hair feels like it's standing on end. I love this song, and the movie.
The great thing about the film is that it shows fear, disgust, class difference, everything. Baker's really good at being seen to not rise to Caine's condescension. The NCOs are brilliant at delivering a fantastic script: " You get up there with your mates". "Do your tunic up, lad! Where do you think you are?" Imagine the faith you put in the audience - many of whom, admittedly, would have been in the military - to see that the NCO is trying to normalise the situation, and give the kid something to do to calm him down. People love to think that army commanders are idiots. The classic example cited is the officer kicking a football across no man's land during a WW1 attack. The reality is that that officer was a particularly good and insightful leader, trying to reassure terrified subordinates by giving them something to focus on and demonstrating his own confidence. The British ran half the world on a shoestring because we worked out the value of procedure, training, management and leadership, soft power and much else. We had people training for years, and learning native languages, before they went anywhere near India. We rubbed up the natives in South Africa less than the Dutch because we knew how to cajole and administer.
@@theredsaint11 Interesting. A Christian defending theft! But I suppose, given the record of the Western churches over 2000 years, it should not surprise anyone.
Man I have to brag here and tell you chaps that as a South African living in KwaZulu Natal (where Rorkes Drift was fought and Zulu was filmed), not only have I been to the battle sites of Isandlawana and Rorkes Drift, I’ve walked that very exact location where the movie is set! This is known as the Royal Natal Game Reserve and the mountains behind it are known as the barrier of spears, a very popular and famous area of the Drakensberg mountains which unfortunately are not exactly close to the original battlefields. In fact there is nothing there to remind you that this movie is filmed there. They for real just set up the set in a wild area and pulled it down afterwards lol. Still it’s a great movie and an interesting period and the Rorkes drift museum is really fantastic. Isandlawana battle site too is absolutely haunting. And the Zulus are, to this day a proud warrior nation living the way their ancestors did in culture and language, albeit with some modern changes of course. Just thought some might find it interesting
I don’t want to fall into the trap of trashing modern Hollywood and “things aren’t as good as they used to be,” but you’d be hard pressed to find an example of slow, subtle, epic storytelling like this in modern cinema. This film is marvelous.
One of my favorite non bias war movies. It’s a group of people who don’t fight for themselves but for their nation and by the end the fight just to survive. And they respect the Zulu for defending their lands whatever it takes. A movie ahead of its time.
Men of Harlech stop your dreaming Can't you see their spear points gleaming See their warrior pennants streaming To this battlefield Men of Harlech stand ye steady It cannot be ever said ye For the battle were not ready Welshmen never yield From the hills rebounding Let this song be sounding Summon all at Cambria's call The mighty force surrounding Men of Harlech on to glory This will ever be your story Keep these burning words before ye Welshmen will not yield
I think those particular words were written for the movie. They are brilliant. I should say that the movie dramatically understates the place of the Royal Engineers who were then, as always, everywhere.
Whether or not it actually happened like this is beside the point. For thousands of years, getting up close and personal with the enemy has required getting one's own side psyched up while trying to demoralize the enemy. This scene is a masterly portrayal of the process, even if it takes some artistic license.
Your right. It actually is quite hard to get people to kill, to fight especially to contact. The military has done a lot studies on the subject. It does not come natural. Skirmishing from a distance, that's easier we like that better :)
Sorry assholes, it did happen like this. Chicken Swedes et al may not like hand to hand fighting but we British have always excelled when it came down to cold steel. Even the vaunted German army usually ran away when confronted with a British bayonet charge. My Uncle and Grandfather who both fought (and won!) at Vimy Ridge and confirmed this.
Give them the cold steel! they said at Gettysburg.... People-humans- hate hand to hand. Even troops charging with bayonets stop when in range to start shooting. it'a rare to have a bayonet charge into the enemy, one stops short or the other breaks. Our natural fighting method is to skirmish.
"Even the vaunted German army usually ran away when confronted with a British bayonet charge. " That is why it took four years. And before you quote me what your gramps did, I have my grandfathers Mons Star 6 inches away from where I type: and he fought in the Sudan with Kitchener.
139 versus 4,000 the odds were pretty daunting. The troops were led after a little friendly debate by A Royal Engineer Officer Lieutenant John Chard who had actually been tasked with maintaining the cable ferry across the river, as he was the senior officer to took charge. Lt. Gonville Bromhead of the 2nd Battalion 24th Regiment of Foot and Lt. John Chard RE held the troops firm against all odds rather magnificently. Quite an undertaking to say the least and an example of leadership at its best anyway you look at it. This was a time in history when men were men and so were some of the women!
If I'm right I think there was only 27 killed in action out of the total British garrison and supposedly 400 and reports say up to 800 Zulu dead, there certainly was great skill at arms and extreme bravery on both sides. Lt Gonville Bromhead VC 29 August 1845 - 9 February 1891 who was later gazetted to full major for this action and other accomplishments on 4 of April 1883 succumbed to typhoid fever whilst stationed at Prayagrai in India . He came from a family with a fine military background being his great grandfather fought under Major general James Wolfe on the the Plains of Abraham at Quebec his grandfather fought in the American Revolutionary War as a Lieutenant General and father was a veteran of Waterloo as well as three brothers who where officers in the British Army . Soldiering was some what of a family tradition or was it a vocation,all in all quite an accomplished family tree in the best tradition's of the British forces.
did you know that the Zulu chanting in this section of the movie was used in the movie Gladiator for the chanting of the hunds in the opening battle scene.
Many people think ( including the tv subtitlers ) that the Zulus shout , " Zuluuuu " at the end of the chant . In fact , they are actually shouting the battle cry , usuthu . The Zulu chief , Cetshwayo , had his own band of warriors called the Usuthu - hence their battle cry.
Shakespeare captured the spirit of preparing men mentally for battle and one of his most moving speeches is contained in Henry V when Henry was at Agincourt. "This story shall the good man teach his son; And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by, From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be rememberèd- We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition; And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day."
And by all accounts a good account of what Harry actually said. Backs to the wall, going down from dysentery -- but you have the high ground and Welsh archers.
You can really feel how scared the Welshman is as he starts to sing but he sings anyway to rally his fellows,and slowly they all regain their nerve. Excellent acting.
My mother, who was Welsh and Irish (Thomas and McFeeley), we had a tradition of watching this movie on Christmas day for from my early 20's until she passed away four years ago. We never missed it and she watched it everytime like it was the first time she ever saw it. She would always marvel about the bravery of the men on both sides, and would root for the Zulu's because she naturally hated the English lol.
Great movie but not from a historical point of view. The vast majority of the garrison was English. There was more Irishmen than Welsh. At the time it was the Warwickshire Regiment at the garrison. It was an Irish officer who advised to stay and fight and to improve the defences with the the biscuit tins. Private Hook was a total tea totaler in real life and his family were rightly angry with the way he was portrayed in the film. The Zulu's never sang to praise the defenders and retreated when their scouts saw Chelmsford'd reinforcements arriving.
@@johnroche7541 it was fairly accurate with on how it shows the battle of rorke’s drift. They probably added the singing part to make it more dramatic which I understand since it doesn’t bother me that much
I saw this film when it was first released, and as one comment made the point, neither side was demonized. There was so much courage and determination on both sides, and at the end, how the Zulus quit the field is something I've never forgotten. A brilliant, unforgettable film.
Despite the recent declarations by leftist clowns here in the UK that this film is racist,a statement that the Zulu nation themselves have ridiculed and denied, I think the Zulu warriors are brilliantly portrayed throughout the entire picture, as are the welsh and English soldiers! Fun fact: The Zulus in the film are played by actual Zulus. Why would they ever agree to make their grandfathers look bad? God rest every British and Zulu warrior and may we never again find cause to go to war with eachother.
The thing is about this movue, is that at every point whenever somebody says about the Zulus being savages, someone is there to correct them. The movie knows not to demonise one side or take favourites.
I’d like to point out that despite hearing over and over that there’s some effort by the ‘leftists’ whatever that means this week to sully this film.... have yet to see anyone but a small handful of uninformed people say anything to that degree... so this really isn’t a battle being fought or anything
@@Marauder623 Honestly its not even really a thing happening, just a handful of uninformed people in conversations. Theres no effort to defame the movie and label it racist
Even having proudly served in the United States Marine Corps, I cannot help but wish I could have been there. If humanity continues for another thousand years, this will STILL be one of man's most courageous hours
As I recall The British Armada had trashed the American east coast, took and occupied Maine, accepted surrendors and tribute from Boston and NYC resupplied them, captured Washington DC, burnt the White House and parts of DC down, leaving the President and all of Congress scattered refugees in the woods, and of course leaving the American government effectively non existant for months before sailing on to Louisana and New Orleans, trashing coastal towns and pirating ships as they went along the coast. Once they reached Florida and there after, everything went 'south' (sour) for the Bristish. The allied and friendly Spainish ports in Florida held all the supplies, and all the auxillaries (indian allies) gathered to reinforce them. The Brits planned to land and march on New Orleans from there , and attack from the undefended landward side. HOWEVERJackson and the American Militia invaded Florida, and captured the ports ahead of the British, denying the Brits their supplies and fresh water, while scattering all the British Indian allies into the Everglades. The British tried to land at Mobile Bay and several other points along the coast but Jackson was always there first. At New Orleans the British could only land in the swamps. Before this last desperate attack was tried they had already fought- and lost- several more battles (when trying to break out of the swamp and outflank New Orleans), leaving them only the swamp to land in, and march through, for a last desperate frontal attack on the cities main defenses. If the British had won, they planned to sweep up the Mississippi River and link to Canada, taking the Louisana Purchase for themselves, and leaving the USA surronded and a client state. But they did not win,
This entire campaign was marked by incompetant leadership from start to finnish, and was done in complete violation of all instructions and orders from Great Britain. The reason they were improperly supplied for war was because there was no war planned, except defense. The man who really commanded during the battle at Roarks Drift was the Boer lieutenant I heard, but politics demanded the patrician British Lieutenants be given the credit.
@blueskies1000 the Boer just helped out by pointing out the tactics and basically telling Chard the tactics. Know your enemy, and all that. He was invaluable but I'm 99% sure he wasn't in charge
From what I read (it was really a article mostly about the failure of Chelmsfords leadersip), Chard was in a delirium from the knock to his head far longer than indicated in the movie, and the real hero of the action was James Dalton, the acting assistant commissary, who took command when Chard wandered off. Bromhead btw was deaf, and described as dithering and useless in a crisis, though otherwise well liked in his regiment. He was aways left behind in the rear when there was action because of his deafness etc. Which was why he was at Roarks Drift. The explanation given for not giving credit to Dalton was that politically it was nesscery that the Drift be commanded by someone of the British gentry. Chard remained in service and retired as Col. Chard. Most all the survivors of that battle suffered (we know today) PTSD. I know this is probably controversial lol. My knowledge of British history is less, not more :) Whomever I offended, I appologize, and I look forward to having myself set straight.
Jerry Coval well,Mr you may have us big chance ,as the hordes of thugs r coming to a theatre near u. Only they will b Islam and u won't have that parade ground prancing marine drill team. Go get em tiger ,but before u go call me fight rite beside u.
MegaProjectpat Wellington refused to advance into Spain until he had logistics sorted out. He knew Spain and Portugal had been raped of food by Napoleons army who just took what they wanted which caused resentment with the population and led to guerrilla bands forming. A standing order was any soldier looting was to be hung in front of the civilians he stole from. Once he had supplies then he advanced. This was the first time that a logistic military unit had been formed and used for the complete supply of an army in the field not dependent on local looting to feed them.
This film has very special memories for me. It was the only time my father took his children to the cinema. He had to go two nights in a row because he could not fit us all in his small car!
“Men of Harlech stop your dreaming Can't you see there spearpoints gleaming See there warrior banners streaming To this battlefeild Men of Harlech stand ye steady It can not be ever said ye For the battle were not ready Welshmen never yeild Form the hills rebounding Let his warcry sounding Sound of all that cambridge calls The mighty force surronding Men of Harlech onto glory This will ever be your story Keep these burning words befor the Welshmen will not yeild”
In modern parlance: [To the Zulu's] "Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" A "few liberties" were taken with this film, but it's still one of the best out there, and if it's ever on the box, it's always well worth watching it [again]
COME ON SING!!! Best line by Stanley Baker. Jeez this classic is now in it's 60th year. Zulu: (1964) Cast: Michael Caine Stanley Baker Glynn Edwards James Booth Richard Burton Neil McCarthy Richard Davies Tom Gerrard Jack Hawkins
Visited the valley of a thousand hills ( Drakensburg Mountains) where this was filmed..incredible place..and saw a full dress Zulu dance ending with a charge at us..entire audience backed up fairly quickly..can only imagine the Bravery shown by both sides..Film is a classic and any type of remake would be a total disaster
About 600 men of the 1/24th and one company of the 2/24th died in that battle, which was most of Bromhead's battalion. Alongside them you can add several hundred colonial police, volunteers, natives, Royal Artillery and a smattering of other units,there was even asailorpresent
People today would be so shocked to see a film from the 60s that accurately pays respects to the most powerful fighting force in all of Africa during a time where racial tensions were very high.
Seems those Zulus were trying some sort of battle chant/magic to strengthen themselves and weaken their enemies - good thing the Welshmen had magic of their own eh? :-)
talboters44 actually, the 24th regiment of foot was a mixed regiment and it was known as the 2nd Warwickshire regiment, not Staffordshire, which became the south wales borderers 3 years after the battle at rorke's drift and now known as the royal welsh regiment. of the 122 at the battle, there were at least 32 welsh, 16 irish a few scots and a few were even from overseas.
You can,t include men from Monmouthshire , as this was at the time an English county , read the brilliant authority on this subject Ian Knight , or watch his films
Two sets of soldiers of different cultures belting out war songs in the most primal instinct of mankind. At the end of the day we are all not so different even if we face each other on the battlefield.
I live not far from the Welsh Borderers museum, and have seen the actual Union flag the flew over the kraal at Rorke's Drift. Recently, they did a special display of two of the actual VCs won at the battle.
Always thought Men of Harlech should be the National Anthem for Wales. Its a belting tune.
The Welsh have the monopoly on belting tunes plus they sing them better than any one
th-cam.com/video/WooUv0QttKs/w-d-xo.html this is the next best thing
@@PatrickKelly-lz3pv indeed we do. In fact, I literally started humming this tune and didn’t know where it was from. Jesus Christ it’s in our blood. Cymru
@@mactire5964 nope. I was humming the exact tune to this. I am also a Welsh born. I don’t think I would be singing an ENGLISH song. No no no
I dunno, their actual anthem is pretty inspiring too.
The non bias nature of this film is amazing, while giving reasons and points to why there is a war it does not demonize either side. This is just men fighting for their nations reasons to fight and much respect is shown, as soldiers.
It has currently been cancelled for political incorrectness. As you say it is not racist. It portrays the Zulus as brave, intelligent and cunning tacticians. They are also very chivalrous. The final scene when the Zulus give up is electrifying. They salute their enemy for being great warriors. The film is about how we can get into conflict, even very violent conflict, yet not lose our humanity.
@@benthejrporter yeah it was very progressive for it's time! also the scene where they let the Priest and his daughter past showed the good side of the Zulus as well.
@@reddyshreddy5050 It is a film filled with decency and humanity. It disgusts me that people SO misrepresent it that it has been banned in some places.
@@benthejrporter Not only that, they paid Zulu actors full rate during apartheid. Those are actual Zulus performing their cultural war dances at a time when their government was actively repressing them, and getting paid to do it.
Reddy Shreddy he wasn’t a priest. He was a minister.
King Cetshwayu's actual biological grandson played him in this. And yes, those are real Zulu.
Kelly. It was his great grandson. His name was Mangosthu Buthelezi,he went on to form the Inkatha freedom party and was Nelson Mandelas main opposition to the ANC.
During early production, the Zulu extras were running by the cameras smiling. No amount of instruction seemed to work. The
Director: Cy Endfield, got an idea and played a John Wayne western for the extras. During an Indian attack he, through a translator, explained that this is how he wanted them to act. Apparently, it worked well. The faces of the Zulu in the film are stoic, brave, and quite frankly, terrifying.
That's amazing I never knew that
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Got to say, they do look awesome in this.
Man, the counterpoint of the Zulus smashing those 3 beats on their shields against that glorious singing is spine tingling!!!
spot on, totally agree
And also Men of Harlech is a banger.
@@bigmoniesponge Amen.
I once read that the extras playing the warriors pitched up on set somewhat downtrodden due to the regime prevalent in SA at the time, but grew and became prouder during the filming of the chants. Magnificent warriors and people!
Agreed
The most polite “DO YOU WANNA F-ING GO?!” In film history
Yes I agree with you
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Too right Keadon.
True story.
Friend of mine watching this at home when the wife walks in. After a couple of minutes she asks, who are the ones in the red uniforms?
Welsh regiment replies my friend. And who are the others? She asks.
Zulus.
What are all those Zulus doing in Wales!
LOL
May I recommend your friend a good divorce lawyer?
Interesting as well, B company, snd Battalion, Warwickshire reg. were an English company of an English regiment. The "Welshness" was added because that particular battalion had later become absorbed into the Welsh regiments and added a Celtic joviality to the film.
Cracking film, mind - it's a truly great anti-racism film which praises the Zulus as much as it does the British army.
Robert Holloway the British Army and the Zulu nation are still friends to this day .
I served with a zulu in our British armed forces ... 1980s .... Lovely man who respected our mutual heritage.
As an Englishman I love this rendition of "Men of Harlech" just F-ING beautiful...
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It's OK to be black OR white. It's tough to escape our culture, impossible for our shared humanity.
Ivor Emmanuel is incredible. They cast him in this movie just for this scene. I cannot imagine anyone else singing this, his voice is so powerful. I first saw this movie when it came out in 1964 (I was 6). This scene still gives me goosebumps.
In the early 1980s I joined many other British lands working in a steelworks, just a few miles from the battle site. During down time the Zulu lads would form a line across the workshop, sing and dance, working themselves up, and the suddenly with a shout of “Zulu” they would change us armed with steel bars or brush handles. The object of the game was to try to stand still, without taking a step back. I don’t think any of us ever managed it. Dispite that we challenged them to a rematch of rookes drift. Both side equally armed with broom handles. This time it was a Zulu victory. Followed by beer drinking through broken teeth and busted ribs. We all leaned to love the Zulus, they have a very British sense of humour. We broke all the apartheid rules, such as eating in the blacks only mess room, just to spend more time with them.
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I am guessing there are more stories where that one comes from. Have you considered writing down your memories of that time period?
Ted Carruthers your mom’s ass looks fake but hey, hehe, it’s there. You cynical little bitch.
@Ted Carruthers
Wanker
Hope they leaned the lesson though: never take a knife to a gun fight.
My uncle served in that regiment he's resting in brithdar cemetery near bargoed South Wales he was buried with his uniform on
Respect.
Cymru am byth
The Zulu regiment? What uniform?
Hero
Was your uncle a part of the 2nd Warwickshire regiment?
"At 100 yards! Volley fire, present! Aim! Fire!" Jesus. This scene never fails to send chills running through me. First watched this when I was a young boy, shown it by my Granddad. This was something he always loved, this and the Great Escape, two films that are now close to my heart. Not because of the amazing stories they tell, but for the good memories I have of enjoying them with my Granddad. RIP Granddad, still miss you.
KING Jesus
@@SuperGreatSphinx A good grandad is a treasure.
Rick Rescorla, a Welsh expatriate, retired Green Beret saved thousands of lives on 9/11 by leading an orderly evacuation of one of the towers in which he was employed. As people were making the long decent down the stairwell he sang “Men of Harlech” so loud that it was heard almost to the bottom of the tower. He perished when the tower fell as he was scouring the building for more survivors.
Hero.
@@eckyx9019 Truly.
I came here looking for this comment. Not only did he lead the evacuation of the Morgan Stanley employees in the South Tower, he predicted the attack years before. He also anticipated the truck bombing that happened in 1993 but was told by the Port Authority to mind his own business. An absolute legend. Rest in peace, Rick.
Great man. British paratrooper who found his way in to Vietnam. Fun fact: He is on the front cover of the famous book “We Were Soldiers and Young”. Col. Hal Moore said he was the best platoon leader he had 🇬🇧🏴🇺🇸
A goddamn legend 🫡
A fabulous portrayal of a clash between radically different cultures. The qualities they hold in common is revealing: bravery and duty towards kinsfolk. These are not just western filmmaker's fictional attributions to both sides to sweeten the palatably of the film for western audiences, I believe these are genuinely universal traits, and it raises the work to greatness by honouring them.
Too bad you can’t make films like these anymore, I liked this one.
One of my favourite films.
This is a great film to watch in ultra HD on a 4K TV, with a good surround sound set up on a high volume🤗👍😜
“Why us Sergeant Major?....Why us?” ........” ‘Cos we’re here lad... nobody else.. just us”
The determination and bravery on both sides is just amazing and the British singing while facing the bone chilling chants of the Zulu warriors is just beautiful, all incredible warriors, An excellent version of the song. Amazing movie.
I remember seeing Zulus doing a war dance when I was in South Africa in the 1970s - they were intimidating, no, terrifying. As part of the dance they stomp the ground so hard, you feel it. I cannot imagine facing them in battle.
Stu McCabe: I can with a large amount of 20/21st century weaponry. Claymore mines defensively will shred them even with those highly armoured leopard skins. Flame thrower usage and finally a dose of 50 calibre machine gun. The Americans staple of choice. And most importantly DON’T take survivors, they’ll go all martyr like through their family. Eradicate all of them and it’s job done.
Perhaps not the pacifist option but in this day and age it’s survival of the fittest (and most comprehensively armed!).
Phil B .That gave me a laugh - thanks!
Like a Hakka. Can you imagine going up against a Maori battalion? A bunch of screaming guys like Russel Crowe or Jason Mamoa? (I know Jason is Hawaiian but you get the idea... a bit tattooed guy)
@@Redplanetlover I wouldn't try it.
@@PhilbyFavouritesjust like how we beat al qaeda
Such an even handed film, even when they’re singing it doesn’t emphasise one or the other, it just shows them as equals in bravery.
Except they weren’t equals - Britain was a hugely powerful industrial world superpower fighting a primitive African country and had invaded it.
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 He was more on about no side being beat down to make the other look like the 'good guys'
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Don't kid yourselves. the Zulus were imperialists too. This wasn't an invasion of some peaceful backwater. This was a clash of empires, and the Zulus had won the first round.
@@hagamapama Agreed the zulus were aggressive - but in the example we are discussing they were simply invaded.
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1Nobody thinks they were equals in terms of technology or development but the movie captures the bravery and fighting spirit of both sides. Obviously if they were equal 150 Brits wouldn’t have been able to stand up to 4000 Zulus but that doesn’t mean that 4000 Zulus aren’t a fearsome force. The 12,000 were able to take the 1,500 man garrison at the beginning of the film after all.
Zulu Soldier: The Welch are chanting!
Zulu Commander: So chant louder!
Zulu Soldier: Now they’re chanting louder!
Zulu Commander: They know our ways.... This will be a good fight!
The scary part is that this wasn't the main Zulu army. It was their reserve force made up of primarily unblooded warriors whose job was to harass and disrupt the British supply trains supporting the main British force (the one that got killed at Ishlawanda).
@@danielhaire6677 A lot of them were middle-aged, one reason they had been held in reserve.
@@stevekaczynski3793 Its good to have a few veterans around the new greener troops.
Today is a good day to die!
And they weren't supposed to cross the river into British held territory. Before that, Cetewayo could claim a purely defensive war@@danielhaire6677
That wide shot when they sing "Welshmen never yield" as they look over at the Zulu army is just chilling
My dad introduced me to this movie as a child, he and I both were really taken with the way neither side is demonized. Great movie.
Ultimate bravery among all soldiers. One side facing numerical impossible odds, impossibly outnumbered and surrounded. Meanwhile the other side impossibly out gunned facing a group of well trained men with far superior technology. Despite this movies apparent patriotism it shows way more respect towards the "enemy" than most American Hollywood films would today let alone when this film came out. Easily the best scene of the film.
I thought the "enemy" came out very well represented....if you think of a strong African culture, you think of the zulu's....
Far ahead of its time in respect to the Zulus and affect of war. What an amazing film
I like the final scene better, when Lt. Chard was surveying the Zulu dead after re-enforcements had arrived and Sir Richard Burton recites the names of the men who won VCs there just before Chard plants a Zulu shield in the ground and walks out of picture.
Here's a link to a roll of honour for those that won VCs at Rourke's Drift. It also lists those killed in action.
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@@roas2 bollocks !!
Well said Sir! Might be the then enemy but always deserving of respect.
I think this is one of my favorite scenes in cinema history
The voices at this part of the movie from both sides have always been my favorite part of the movie.
Great big balls on both sides of this engagement. Salute to real men
Cinematic perfection. A film of great importance and significance. Far ahead of it's time and remains tragically underrated.
Blackadder: Have you ever been to Wales, Baldrick?
Baldrick: No, but I often thought I'd like to.
Blackadder: Well, don't, It's a ghastly place. Huge gangs of tough, sinewy men roam the Valleys, terrorizing people with their close-harmony singing.
Nurse Mary: And no casual girlfriends...?
Blackadder: Skirt? Hah! If only... When I joined up, we were still fighting colonial wars. If you saw someone in a skirt, you shot him and nicked his country.
Would you like to provide evidence of that contention? If not, stop being an arse. Are you trying to indicate you are Finnish? Then you probably know fuck all about Celtic/Gaelic history. And finally, if you said that in Wales, you'd have your teeth shoved down your throat.
does it bloody matter that much mate? he's properly just got a good sence of humor. I'm shure he's not that much of a fool. Have a nice life, and may The Forse be with you, and the God's be with you.
Strange, but, that comment really fits this scene/music!!! ha ha go you Welsh!
Turmoil ñ
Nigel Green was the quintessential British Sergeant.
over 1000 died a few hours before at Isandlwana, one of the worst losses of a modern army against a native foe. Only 2 Victoria Cross were awarded for that Battle and that was Coghill and Melville for carrying the colours out of the battle. They were later kills and the colours lost. 11 VCs were aware to men at Rorke's Drift. Amazing film on so many levels. If you haven't seen it catch Zulu Dawn, the prequel to this movie
I loves this and I am not Welsh. Such a powerful motivating song.
Welsh isn't really a requirement, but it helps
Well considering the majority of people from england actually have more in common with welsh people genetically, its fair to say most English people can feel inspired by this. Except kent and yorkshire, saxon and nordic respectively;)
@@colonelturmeric558We honestly don't have more in common with the English.
I believe it was, maybe it still is, the school song for Walnut Hills High School in Cincinnati
When I see this scene, and I've seen it many times, I get a tingling in my back and my hair feels like it's standing on end. I love this song, and the movie.
The great thing about the film is that it shows fear, disgust, class difference, everything. Baker's really good at being seen to not rise to Caine's condescension. The NCOs are brilliant at delivering a fantastic script: " You get up there with your mates". "Do your tunic up, lad! Where do you think you are?" Imagine the faith you put in the audience - many of whom, admittedly, would have been in the military - to see that the NCO is trying to normalise the situation, and give the kid something to do to calm him down. People love to think that army commanders are idiots. The classic example cited is the officer kicking a football across no man's land during a WW1 attack. The reality is that that officer was a particularly good and insightful leader, trying to reassure terrified subordinates by giving them something to focus on and demonstrating his own confidence. The British ran half the world on a shoestring because we worked out the value of procedure, training, management and leadership, soft power and much else. We had people training for years, and learning native languages, before they went anywhere near India. We rubbed up the natives in South Africa less than the Dutch because we knew how to cajole and administer.
spot on
And you lost it all when you you turned from Christ the King and tradition. America is next :(
@@theredsaint11Returning the colonial lands to their owners was the CHRISTIAN thing to do, was it not?
@@rosemaryallen2128 no. It was insanity.
@@theredsaint11 Interesting. A Christian defending theft! But I suppose, given the record of the Western churches over 2000 years, it should not surprise anyone.
Man I have to brag here and tell you chaps that as a South African living in KwaZulu Natal (where Rorkes Drift was fought and Zulu was filmed), not only have I been to the battle sites of Isandlawana and Rorkes Drift, I’ve walked that very exact location where the movie is set!
This is known as the Royal Natal Game Reserve and the mountains behind it are known as the barrier of spears, a very popular and famous area of the Drakensberg mountains which unfortunately are not exactly close to the original battlefields. In fact there is nothing there to remind you that this movie is filmed there. They for real just set up the set in a wild area and pulled it down afterwards lol.
Still it’s a great movie and an interesting period and the Rorkes drift museum is really fantastic. Isandlawana battle site too is absolutely haunting. And the Zulus are, to this day a proud warrior nation living the way their ancestors did in culture and language, albeit with some modern changes of course.
Just thought some might find it interesting
Very. Thank you for sharing that.
I don’t want to fall into the trap of trashing modern Hollywood and “things aren’t as good as they used to be,” but you’d be hard pressed to find an example of slow, subtle, epic storytelling like this in modern cinema. This film is marvelous.
One of my favorite non bias war movies. It’s a group of people who don’t fight for themselves but for their nation and by the end the fight just to survive. And they respect the Zulu for defending their lands whatever it takes. A movie ahead of its time.
As a Cheshire man I have the utmost respect for the Welsh they truly are Arthur's folk
the clash between two different cultures in war song together sound like you're entering a heaven made only for warriors... them goosebumps
Valhalla isn't just for Norsemen.
Men of Harlech stop your dreaming
Can't you see their spear points gleaming
See their warrior pennants streaming
To this battlefield
Men of Harlech stand ye steady
It cannot be ever said ye
For the battle were not ready
Welshmen never yield
From the hills rebounding
Let this song be sounding
Summon all at Cambria's call
The mighty force surrounding
Men of Harlech on to glory
This will ever be your story
Keep these burning words before ye
Welshmen will not yield
Except to the English.
Snead Hearn never 😂😂
now the Saxon flees before us , victories banner waveth oe'r us sings the loud insulting chorus, Welshmen will not yield.
I think those particular words were written for the movie. They are brilliant. I should say that the movie dramatically understates the place of the Royal Engineers who were then, as always, everywhere.
'neath the fray lie dead and dying
Friend and foe together lying
All around the arrows flying scatter sudden death.
Whether or not it actually happened like this is beside the point. For thousands of years, getting up close and personal with the enemy has required getting one's own side psyched up while trying to demoralize the enemy. This scene is a masterly portrayal of the process, even if it takes some artistic license.
Your right. It actually is quite hard to get people to kill, to fight especially to contact. The military has done a lot studies on the subject. It does not come natural. Skirmishing from a distance, that's easier we like that better :)
Sorry assholes, it did happen like this. Chicken Swedes et al may not like hand to hand fighting but we British have always excelled when it came down to cold steel. Even the vaunted German army usually ran away when confronted with a British bayonet charge. My Uncle and Grandfather who both fought (and won!) at Vimy Ridge and confirmed this.
Give them the cold steel! they said at Gettysburg....
People-humans- hate hand to hand. Even troops charging with bayonets stop when in range to start shooting. it'a rare to have a bayonet charge into the enemy, one stops short or the other breaks.
Our natural fighting method is to skirmish.
"Sorry assholes, it did happen like this". Oh please
"Even the vaunted German army usually ran away when confronted with a British bayonet charge. " That is why it took four years. And before you quote me what your gramps did, I have my grandfathers Mons Star 6 inches away from where I type: and he fought in the Sudan with Kitchener.
The Zulus here still delivered the most impressive mass chant I've ever heard, and unlikely to ever be matched again.
139 versus 4,000 the odds were pretty daunting. The troops were led after a little friendly debate by A Royal Engineer Officer Lieutenant John Chard who had actually been tasked with maintaining the cable ferry across the river, as he was the senior officer to took charge. Lt. Gonville Bromhead of the 2nd Battalion 24th Regiment of Foot and Lt. John Chard RE held the troops firm against all odds rather magnificently. Quite an undertaking to say the least and an example of leadership at its best anyway you look at it. This was a time in history when men were men and so were some of the women!
A&A Britten ah! So you watched the film as well!
As Shakespeare had Henry V say at Agincourt (tis fearful odds) when they viewed the French in their battle set.
If I'm right I think there was only 27 killed in action out of the total British garrison and supposedly 400 and reports say up to 800 Zulu dead, there certainly was great skill at arms and extreme bravery on both sides.
Lt Gonville Bromhead VC 29 August 1845 - 9 February 1891 who was later gazetted to full major for this action and other accomplishments on 4 of April 1883 succumbed to typhoid fever whilst stationed at Prayagrai in India .
He came from a family with a fine military background being his great grandfather fought under Major general James Wolfe on the the Plains of Abraham at Quebec his grandfather fought in the American Revolutionary War as a Lieutenant General and father was a veteran of Waterloo as well as three brothers who where officers in the British Army .
Soldiering was some what of a family tradition or was it a vocation,all in all quite an accomplished family tree in the best tradition's of the British forces.
Yea, but both of the commanders were Lt's in their 30's at the time of this battle. Doesn't speak highly of either one of them.
Being a proud Welshman this song gives me shivers CYMRU AM BYTH.
did you know that the Zulu chanting in this section of the movie was used in the movie Gladiator for the chanting of the hunds in the opening battle scene.
Hooooooooooooo!!!
i notice that when i first saw gladiator in the cinema at the time could not put my finger on what film it was from
Zulu is one of Ridley Scott’s favourite films. He put that chant in as a nod to it
Many people think ( including the tv subtitlers ) that the Zulus shout , " Zuluuuu " at the end of the chant . In fact , they are actually shouting the battle cry , usuthu . The Zulu chief , Cetshwayo , had his own band of warriors called the Usuthu - hence their battle cry.
“Death, death death!”
Shakespeare captured the spirit of preparing men mentally for battle and one of his most moving speeches is contained in Henry V when Henry was at Agincourt.
"This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be rememberèd-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day."
And by all accounts a good account of what Harry actually said. Backs to the wall, going down from dysentery -- but you have the high ground and Welsh archers.
Then he slaughterd all the french p o w english chivalry
You can really feel how scared the Welshman is as he starts to sing but he sings anyway to rally his fellows,and slowly they all regain their nerve. Excellent acting.
Great memories watching this with my grandad may God bless him.
My mother, who was Welsh and Irish (Thomas and McFeeley), we had a tradition of watching this movie on Christmas day for from my early 20's until she passed away four years ago. We never missed it and she watched it everytime like it was the first time she ever saw it. She would always marvel about the bravery of the men on both sides, and would root for the Zulu's because she naturally hated the English lol.
Hated the english (sigh) pretty sad
One of my favourite scenes in any film I've ever seen. Absolutely spine tingling.
One of the greatest cinematic scenes of all time. Made me shiver the first time I watched this wonderful film classic.
Excuse the capital letters. ONE OF THE GREATEST FILMS EVER MADE !!! 🎞️📽️🎥
Great movie but not from a historical point of view. The vast majority of the garrison was English. There was more Irishmen than Welsh. At the time it was the Warwickshire Regiment at the garrison. It was an Irish officer who advised to stay and fight and to improve the defences with the the biscuit tins. Private Hook was a total tea totaler in real life and his family were rightly angry with the way he was portrayed in the film. The Zulu's never sang to praise the defenders and retreated when their scouts saw Chelmsford'd reinforcements arriving.
No matter how many times i watch , it never gets old .
@@johnroche7541 it was fairly accurate with on how it shows the battle of rorke’s drift. They probably added the singing part to make it more dramatic which I understand since it doesn’t bother me that much
I saw this film when it was first released, and as one comment made the point, neither side was demonized. There was so much courage and determination on both sides, and at the end, how the Zulus quit the field is something I've never forgotten. A brilliant, unforgettable film.
A radio comedy sketch show advices men to sing this whenever wives or girlfriends are about to chastise them.
Despite the recent declarations by leftist clowns here in the UK that this film is racist,a statement that the Zulu nation themselves have ridiculed and denied, I think the Zulu warriors are brilliantly portrayed throughout the entire picture, as are the welsh and English soldiers!
Fun fact: The Zulus in the film are played by actual Zulus. Why would they ever agree to make their grandfathers look bad?
God rest every British and Zulu warrior and may we never again find cause to go to war with eachother.
So the Zulu nation stands on the side of the sane and normal free thinking people? That's neat.
The thing is about this movue, is that at every point whenever somebody says about the Zulus being savages, someone is there to correct them. The movie knows not to demonise one side or take favourites.
I’d like to point out that despite hearing over and over that there’s some effort by the ‘leftists’ whatever that means this week to sully this film.... have yet to see anyone but a small handful of uninformed people say anything to that degree... so this really isn’t a battle being fought or anything
@@About37Hobos i agree with what you're saying, it's too easy to say "the left" or "the right" when really, it is just idiots.
@@Marauder623 Honestly its not even really a thing happening, just a handful of uninformed people in conversations. Theres no effort to defame the movie and label it racist
I never get fed up of this film Awesome xxx
Agreed, one of the best British films (together with The Dambusters). This was before Michael Caine became Michael Caine!!
Even having proudly served in the United States Marine Corps, I cannot help but wish I could have been there. If humanity continues for another thousand years, this will STILL be one of man's most courageous hours
As I recall The British Armada had trashed the American east coast, took and occupied Maine, accepted surrendors and tribute from Boston and NYC resupplied them, captured Washington DC, burnt the White House and parts of DC down, leaving the President and all of Congress scattered refugees in the woods, and of course leaving the American government effectively non existant for months before sailing on to Louisana and New Orleans, trashing coastal towns and pirating ships as they went along the coast.
Once they reached Florida and there after, everything went 'south' (sour) for the Bristish.
The allied and friendly Spainish ports in Florida held all the supplies, and all the auxillaries (indian allies) gathered to reinforce them. The Brits planned to land and march on New Orleans from there , and attack from the undefended landward side. HOWEVERJackson and the American Militia invaded Florida, and captured the ports ahead of the British, denying the Brits their supplies and fresh water, while scattering all the British Indian allies into the Everglades.
The British tried to land at Mobile Bay and several other points along the coast but Jackson was always there first. At New Orleans the British could only land in the swamps. Before this last desperate attack was tried they had already fought- and lost- several more battles (when trying to break out of the swamp and outflank New Orleans), leaving them only the swamp to land in, and march through, for a last desperate frontal attack on the cities main defenses.
If the British had won, they planned to sweep up the Mississippi River and link to Canada, taking the Louisana Purchase for themselves, and leaving the USA surronded and a client state.
But they did not win,
This entire campaign was marked by incompetant leadership from start to finnish, and was done in complete violation of all instructions and orders from Great Britain.
The reason they were improperly supplied for war was because there was no war planned, except defense.
The man who really commanded during the battle at Roarks Drift was the Boer lieutenant I heard, but politics demanded the patrician British Lieutenants be given the credit.
@blueskies1000 the Boer just helped out by pointing out the tactics and basically telling Chard the tactics. Know your enemy, and all that. He was invaluable but I'm 99% sure he wasn't in charge
From what I read (it was really a article mostly about the failure of Chelmsfords leadersip), Chard was in a
delirium from the knock to his head far longer than indicated in the movie, and the real hero of the action was James Dalton, the acting assistant commissary, who took command when Chard wandered off.
Bromhead btw was deaf, and described as dithering and useless in a crisis, though otherwise well liked in his regiment. He was aways left behind in the rear when there was action because of his deafness etc. Which was why he was at Roarks Drift.
The explanation given for not giving credit to Dalton was that politically it was nesscery that the Drift be commanded by someone of the British gentry. Chard remained in service and retired as Col. Chard.
Most all the survivors of that battle suffered (we know today) PTSD.
I know this is probably controversial lol. My knowledge of British history is less, not more :) Whomever I offended, I appologize, and I look forward to having myself set straight.
Jerry Coval well,Mr you may have us big chance ,as the hordes of thugs r coming to a theatre near u. Only they will b Islam and u won't have that parade ground prancing marine drill team. Go get em tiger ,but before u go call me fight rite beside u.
I've been to Harlech. Wonderful castle. Hell of a walk up to it but the view is breathtaking.
Loved this man. So handsome and lovely voice. How come it wasn't made public that he'd died in 07.
One of the great scenes in movie history.
Possibly the best brittish war film ever made actually probably the best war film globally ever made.Its deffo in the top 10
'All Quiet on the Western Front' (1930) will always be the best war film in my mind.
Goosebumps every time I watch this part of the film
i love how the sergeant comforts the worried private.
You can't have a decent war without the British. They always add a bit of class to a scuffle.
Especially when their Welsh. 😉
MegaProjectpat . Rommel described Montgomery as a very good 1st world war general. Nothing better said.
MegaProjectpat Wellington refused to advance into Spain until he had logistics sorted out. He knew Spain and Portugal had been raped of food by Napoleons army who just took what they wanted which caused resentment with the population and led to guerrilla bands forming. A standing order was any soldier looting was to be hung in front of the civilians he stole from. Once he had supplies then he advanced. This was the first time that a logistic military unit had been formed and used for the complete supply of an army in the field not dependent on local looting to feed them.
I’m Scottish. I’d take Ivor Emmanuel over the bagpipes any day.
@@Rusty-Hingethere were a number of Irishmen at Rourkes Drift also.
This film has very special memories for me. It was the only time my father took his children to the cinema. He had to go two nights in a row because he could not fit us all in his small car!
There are certain scenes that stick with you. This is one for me.
“Men of Harlech stop your dreaming
Can't you see there spearpoints gleaming
See there warrior banners streaming
To this battlefeild
Men of Harlech stand ye steady
It can not be ever said ye
For the battle were not ready
Welshmen never yeild
Form the hills rebounding
Let his warcry sounding
Sound of all that cambridge calls
The mighty force surronding
Men of Harlech onto glory
This will ever be your story
Keep these burning words befor the
Welshmen will not yeild”
In modern parlance:
[To the Zulu's]
"Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough"
A "few liberties" were taken with this film, but it's still one of the best out there, and if it's ever on the box, it's always well worth watching it [again]
COME ON SING!!! Best line by Stanley Baker.
Jeez this classic is now in it's 60th year.
Zulu: (1964)
Cast:
Michael Caine
Stanley Baker
Glynn Edwards
James Booth
Richard Burton
Neil McCarthy
Richard Davies
Tom Gerrard
Jack Hawkins
Say what you want about the Zulus, atleast they *DID* have a very good bass section
No top tenners mind
Bass*
@@robertofulton
*Tenors
I've been humming this to myself for, I guess, 55 years, after seeing the movie, and I finally decided to find out what the song actually was. Thanks.
Anyone who thinks it's "sissiified" for boys/men to sing has never seen this movie. Perfect.
RIP to all the heroes of Rourke's Drift. GSTQ
Fuck the Queen and the Royals. and up the Welsh 🏴
as a English man makes me proud of the Welsh boys salute to you 👍brave lads
More English at this battle than Welsh
@@theturdreich9546 Yes, dickheads, like Bromhead. .
English outnumbered Welsh 2-1 bromhead was French
@@chrisguy1790 No bromhead was English but was born in France and had few French relatives.
@@hfhso37ndnkshe was French then…
I showed this as part of a lecture in film school.
Visited the valley of a thousand hills ( Drakensburg Mountains) where this was filmed..incredible place..and saw a full dress Zulu dance ending with a charge at us..entire audience backed up fairly quickly..can only imagine the Bravery shown by both sides..Film is a classic and any type of remake would be a total disaster
Hmm
Absolutely brilliant. I am not Welsh, but by God it makes you feel Welsh.
Fun fact my grandad was in the South Wales Borders in the second world war he was captured in north Africa.
the british did extremely well even though they had lost 1,500 men in the previous battle at isandlwana which was half of bromheads battalion
Isandlwana was the result of poor leadership on the British side and excellent leadership on the part of the Zulu
Nothing to do with Bromhead
I was told their officer was out hunting...
@@jamesricker3997 Exactly!
The Quartermaster at Isandlwana made the troopers sign for the ammunition they received while they were fighting.
About 600 men of the 1/24th and one company of the 2/24th died in that battle, which was most of Bromhead's battalion. Alongside them you can add several hundred colonial police, volunteers, natives, Royal Artillery and a smattering of other units,there was even asailorpresent
I spend way too much time with this tune running in my head.
this literally gives me chills
A truly magnificent voice.
No one can convince me that this film isn't a musical.
No CGI Here “that’s for sure”
One of my most favorite movies . I love the song. I'm Welsh a few gen. In the past. Good show lads.
People today would be so shocked to see a film from the 60s that accurately pays respects to the most powerful fighting force in all of Africa during a time where racial tensions were very high.
been watching this since i was a lad..brilliant
Great film. Great song. Look up Rick Rescorla who actually sang this song to calm his coworkers as he led them to safety during the 9/11 attack in NY.
The greatest film of all time.
One of the best films ever made.
Mooi, I am an Afrikaner, Vrystaaat vir ewig!!!
francois williams
Oh yes!
jaaaaaaaa!
Sing! LOUDER!
Ob's sturmt oder schneit,
ob die Sonne uns lacht ...
Ooops, sorry, wrong battle.
Zulu would’ve been in for a bad time
Song?
@@ShodaiGojira-xn3xk Panzerlied, from 'Battle of the Bulge'. Here on YT.
To the same tune as Das Sudwesterlied. 😏
Carry on up the Khyber ( one of the funniest films ever) was being filmed at the same time and the carry on team borrowed the uniforms.
And in "Carry on Cleo" Sid James wears Richard Burton's armor from "Cleopatra".
Private waddle! !!
The greatest war movie of all time ...
Gives me chills every time
New Years eve....what the heck....landed me here 😮
Seems those Zulus were trying some sort of battle chant/magic to strengthen themselves and weaken their enemies - good thing the Welshmen had magic of their own eh? :-)
still this idea that they were welsh when actually they were of an english regiment THE STAFFORDSHIRE REGT.
Not a good thing
talboters44
actually, the 24th regiment of foot was a mixed regiment and it was known as the 2nd Warwickshire regiment, not Staffordshire, which became the south wales borderers 3 years after the battle at rorke's drift and now known as the royal welsh regiment.
of the 122 at the battle, there were at least 32 welsh, 16 irish a few scots and a few were even from overseas.
More Irish there than Welsh , yeah i,ve read Saul David , and Ian Knight,s books
You can,t include men from Monmouthshire , as this was at the time an English county , read the brilliant authority on this subject Ian Knight , or watch his films
Awsome scene, the Zulu warriors were frightening when i first saw this great film!
Two sets of soldiers of different cultures belting out war songs in the most primal instinct of mankind. At the end of the day we are all not so different even if we face each other on the battlefield.
"Now we're going to try and convince each other we're not afraid."
I live not far from the Welsh Borderers museum, and have seen the actual Union flag the flew over the kraal at Rorke's Drift. Recently, they did a special display of two of the actual VCs won at the battle.
"Welshmen never yield" If you don't get goosebumps at this your blood has stopped flowing ..... and I'm English!!
best of all time LTS GOOO!!!!
Some of the finest warriors to ever live, on both sides