Men of Harlech - Welsh Patriotic Song

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  • @Rory_Herbert
    @Rory_Herbert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    I have a photo of my great-granduncle on parade with John Williams VC of Rorke's Drift fame.

    • @aungzaya5750
      @aungzaya5750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      👍👍

    • @rossgeorge245
      @rossgeorge245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's amazing. My distant none maternal relative lt tiegnmouth melvill as portrayed in zulu dawn by James Faulkner was pomostuasly awarded the vc for saving the 1st 24ths colours at the Battle of Isandlwana. I dread to think what was going through the minds of the 5 companys of 1st 24th and the 1 company of the 2nd battalion that were massacred. To the boys who defended rorkes drift even though the main part of their regiment were dead from the previous battle. One scene I always get a chill from on zulu dawn is when Chelmsford returns to the camp and one of his officers says "I rode a little along the track to rorkes drift the sky is red with fire" I always think of those brave individuals who were at rorkes drift and the gallant resistance they put up for 13 long hours of fighting

    • @leopoldstotch3524
      @leopoldstotch3524 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      John Williams is from my home town his home is about 1/4 mile from mine .. local legend he has a gravestone in Llantarnam church 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @darrenpendlebery9234
      @darrenpendlebery9234 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And a fine pub in Cwmbran named in his honour.

    • @trigger399
      @trigger399 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@leopoldstotch3524Alias John Fielding, born of Irish parents.

  • @Teddyclaws
    @Teddyclaws ปีที่แล้ว +238

    As a Kiwi I love it when the Welsh rugby fans in Cardiff answer the All Black's haka with a rousing rendition of this song. The Haka is cool but this is better.

    • @Teddyclaws
      @Teddyclaws 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@ImUpYourArse wtf are you talking about? I am neither Maori nor Welsh. There are other ethnicities, you know.

    • @MarkWarburton-bo9ve
      @MarkWarburton-bo9ve 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haka not Evan traditional

    • @Teddyclaws
      @Teddyclaws 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@MarkWarburton-bo9ve nonsense

    • @MarkWarburton-bo9ve
      @MarkWarburton-bo9ve 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We Welsh didn't sing in English we sang different language

    • @Clydesirota
      @Clydesirota 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      As a neutral American I would not mess with either group. Bad ass warriors. Semper Fi

  • @SirDrakeFrancis
    @SirDrakeFrancis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    That movie scene has a special place in my heart.

    • @bwrak
      @bwrak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      hünkarim ne işiniz var burada

    • @patrickmuro5778
      @patrickmuro5778 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, colonizers invading, slaughtering and taking other people's homes always leaves a lump in my throat.

    • @AndrewSmith-uz8bg
      @AndrewSmith-uz8bg ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@patrickmuro5778 YES YES YES LOVE ❤️ IT FOR YOUR MODERN DAY LUXURY AND LIFE OF EASE AND PLEASURE!!!

    • @SirDrakeFrancis
      @SirDrakeFrancis ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@patrickmuro5778 yep, thanks for clearing up what the zulus did.

    • @turipipipip3209
      @turipipipip3209 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@patrickmuro5778 True but it was a last stand 0:53

  • @70tezskin
    @70tezskin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    ZULU..Incredible Film portraying The battle at Rorke's Drift .Its impossible to imagine the real horrors of armed conflict like this..
    Rorke's Drift.
    1879..
    11 Victoria crosses.
    Men of Harlech.
    Incredibly Moving.
    Rousing deep inside the heart.
    Tears trickle. 😢 😢😢.

    • @danny9008
      @danny9008 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its an amazing film but is quite inaccurate to the real battle of Rorkes drift

    • @70tezskin
      @70tezskin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No film will ever be totally accurate, whatever the subject.
      It is was it is .
      Inaccuracies are part of life .

    • @tomerdman9255
      @tomerdman9255 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I loved the film except for the portrayal of Hook, who in reality a teetotaling model soldier.

    • @Voodoomaria
      @Voodoomaria 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Colour Sergeant Frank Bourne was NOT awarded the Victoria Cross for his valorous defence of Rorkes Drift however, as he was a non-commissioned rank not an officer, so he didn't qualify.
      He was STILL training British Soldiers Through WW1 His Final Rank upon retirement was Lieutenant-Colonel.
      He died in May of 1945 ONE DAY after V.E. Day, the LAST surviving defender of Rorke's Drift.

    • @frankrowland
      @frankrowland 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VoodoomariaALL soldiers,sailors and airmen, irrespective of rank are eligible to be nominated for a Victoria Cross.

  • @leopoldstotch3524
    @leopoldstotch3524 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I live near the home of one of the real welshmen from this actual battle .. his home has a plaque on it ❤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @CountvonCount33
    @CountvonCount33 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    I never realised until recently that Michael Caine had faced a similar real life experience during the Korean war, probably why he sounds so convincing when he shouts "Volley Fire" 👍

  • @gordonbergslien30
    @gordonbergslien30 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    "Who do you think is coming to wipe out your little band, the Genadier Guards?" One of the great lines in movie history! Love this film!

  • @youngbess1
    @youngbess1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    My grandmother was born in wales and instilled in me the love of welsh choirs and their beautiful voices.

  • @forlorn8575
    @forlorn8575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1614

    They’d never make a film like this today

    • @jamesshannon2090
      @jamesshannon2090 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      That's just sad

    • @costanvaarwel8932
      @costanvaarwel8932 ปีที่แล้ว +394

      The world is just so woke to the point anything that is historically accurate will be perceived as racist

    • @joethorne5777
      @joethorne5777 ปีที่แล้ว +327

      This film actually presents the zulus as valiant and capable warriors, but even then, a film like it would still be attacked nowadays

    • @PrivateMcPrivate
      @PrivateMcPrivate ปีที่แล้ว +40

      ​@@costanvaarwel8932 that's so sad :(

    • @KohanKilletz
      @KohanKilletz ปีที่แล้ว +123

      I think it wouldn't work because modern audiences would be more sympathetic to the natives due to portrayals like in this movie. This movie is nuetral, today it would be polarized

  • @elausraliano
    @elausraliano ปีที่แล้ว +467

    They showed us this movie when I was doing my corporal course in the army and one of the instructors, who was a bit of an expert on the Zulu Wars, said “that’s the ways wars should be fought”, meaning man-to-man. But another instructor says, “yes, with the other side without bullets!”, to the general laughter of the audience. 😂

    • @joecater894
      @joecater894 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      our guns werent too good then.. and they were mightly fit warriors with their shields and spears :) The gun then wasnt what it is now. Not until the machine gun. The bayonate was still pretty much primary weapon.

    • @connycontainer9459
      @connycontainer9459 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@joecater894 What an expert statement.

    • @irishboer7124
      @irishboer7124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They had rifles but weren't the best of shots.

    • @elausraliano
      @elausraliano 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@irishboer7124 yes, but 90% had spears and clubs

    • @alanclague2333
      @alanclague2333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      As captain Blackadder said we preferred opponents armed with guava halves and sharpened guava fruits.

  • @tenburywellsmartin7576
    @tenburywellsmartin7576 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    If this does not bring a lump to your throat and a tear to your eye,you are not human.!!...Such pride..!!

    • @averylividmoose3599
      @averylividmoose3599 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it brings a tear to my throat and a lump to my eye i think there may be something wrong

    • @davidmitchell1391
      @davidmitchell1391 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you are a Zulu it might not!@@averylividmoose3599

    • @philipdawes2661
      @philipdawes2661 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You forgot the goosebumps :)

  • @maggiesmith856
    @maggiesmith856 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    A friend of mine bought the Zulu soundtrack album just for this song - and it wasn't there ! Some critics said this scene was absurd, but the Zulus testified that just before thay made their final charge at Islawanda ( the battle they fought just before Roark's Drift, where they slaughtered the British) the soldiers sang God Save The Queen and shook each other's hands. By the way, the song is also sung, in Welsh, in the movie Apache Drums.

  • @Hesopod-w3b
    @Hesopod-w3b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Surprising fact, the zulus who played in this absolutely loved it! They were so happy with the effort the director put into keeping both sides morally equal. Some of the white men who played and produced in this film became strong friends with the locals.
    Edit: as an Irishman this makes me uncannily patriotic

    • @alynwillams4297
      @alynwillams4297 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Did you know at the time they had to pay the zulus in cattle as they weren’t allowed to pay them in anything else.

    • @mrmason23
      @mrmason23 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@alynwillams4297 I heard they had to pay in Cattle since the Zulus doesn't have/see value in the SA money.
      This was from another comment section years ago, so take it with a grain of salt.

    • @ChristopherShaskin
      @ChristopherShaskin 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As a Ukrainian, this movie inspired me. Men in mortal conflict, learning to admire each other.

  • @Dylan-pl6wv
    @Dylan-pl6wv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Im a American but even this got me pumping like "WELSHMEN WILL NEVER YIELD!!! FOR VICTORIA"

    • @alynwillams4297
      @alynwillams4297 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ironically men of Harlech is about the siege of Harlech castle against the English then it was used again 20 years later in the civil war.

    • @josephbuckley5961
      @josephbuckley5961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Scots and the Irish and us Welsh are the warriors that made the empire no matter what the English say. They were too busy watching from a distance with tea and biscuits

    • @Osama_Zyn_Laden
      @Osama_Zyn_Laden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are your ancestors we come from Europeans well at least most of us do

    • @jameshartley6161
      @jameshartley6161 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@josephbuckley5961
      Ironic that the men at Rorke’s drifts were mostly English.

    • @josephbuckley5961
      @josephbuckley5961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jameshartley616132 Welsh men in that regiment I believe Wales wasn't independent until the 50s. So your irony of it being English isn't factional. Welsh boys held the line.

  • @magnuswalker7957
    @magnuswalker7957 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Eleven VCs won in this encounter and they dont give them out for nothing. Brave lads.

    • @andrewparrott7260
      @andrewparrott7260 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Received or awarded. Not won, it's not a bloody contest or the olympics

    • @williammcilwraith9304
      @williammcilwraith9304 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only gave them out to boost morale as they got their arse kicked a few days earlier at Isawanda? Lost 1300 troops.

    • @andrewparrott7260
      @andrewparrott7260 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@williammcilwraith9304 yes I knew that fact. 👍

    • @philking7505
      @philking7505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@williammcilwraith9304Yep, it's a great film but the details are largely a work of fiction. I forget exactly how many British were killed at Rourke's Drift, but it was in the teens. I would far rather have been behind the baracades with a rifle than running across that open ground with a short spear

    • @YenliMilneY
      @YenliMilneY 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@philking7505 Sounding a bit racist and parochial there - the Zulu forces also had rifles. Many captured from the rout of the main British forces after the battle of Isawanda which led to this battle. In fact pretty much all the casualties you cite for the British were from gunshot wounds by those weapons. They also had several thousand troops, and cavalry.

  • @DavidWills-v6l
    @DavidWills-v6l 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    When Britain was great now we have people in this country trying to make us ashamed of the uk well sod them I very proud to be born and brought up here this country is is fantastic because everyone wants to come here and it's our forefathers who made it great god bless them.

    • @DavidKitchen-yt2cy
      @DavidKitchen-yt2cy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Grow up

    • @tunguskalumberjack9987
      @tunguskalumberjack9987 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They even learned, thanks to the schools, the proper use of punctuation and grammar! 😏

  • @TR0X3N
    @TR0X3N 2 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    They’ve got a good base section

    • @randomobserver8168
      @randomobserver8168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      And Welshmen at least have some good top tenors, too. That's what the Zulus were missing.

    • @queent-g4b
      @queent-g4b 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No the Zulus are nak*#

    • @elpanchito421
      @elpanchito421 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      But no top tenors, that’s for sure

    • @johnmcpherson5068
      @johnmcpherson5068 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But no top tenors...

    • @tunguskalumberjack9987
      @tunguskalumberjack9987 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can’t speak to what they’re standing on, but the bass section isn’t bad. 😏

  • @paulmcgrath6456
    @paulmcgrath6456 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Tom hanks father's favourite film. he took tom to watch it when it first come out.and he loved Michael caines perfomance (not a lot of people know that)

  • @andrewwaldock
    @andrewwaldock ปีที่แล้ว +366

    What an incredibly stirring rendition of this mighty ballad. Zulu is a tremendous film and this may well be my favorite compilation of scenes from the movie, as well as my favorite version of Men of Harlech. From this Scots Irish man to my Welsh Celtic kinsmen: you are of such strength in song & story. I salute you.

    • @davidperry7128
      @davidperry7128 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Except it is complete nonsense, The largest group in the 2nd Warwickshire Regiment were English.

    • @grantoldfield3790
      @grantoldfield3790 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The English had no baritones. Enjoy it for the great movie it was instead of criticising. We all know it was the English colonisation that dragooned the mighty Scots Irish and Welsh without whom no empire would have been achieved

    • @andrewwaldock
      @andrewwaldock ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @penderyn8794 Tell me, are you and your fellow zoomer intellectuals happier now being overrun by hordes very similar in appearance to the Zulus, whilst still ostensibly being under colonial rule?

    • @WookJnr
      @WookJnr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you too are under colonial rule. a sad truth@@andrewwaldock

    • @Cash4gold84
      @Cash4gold84 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @penderyn8794do you even speak the language? When’s your methadone appointment

  • @99IronDuke
    @99IronDuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Great stuff and my favourite film.

  • @jg90049
    @jg90049 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Since I first saw it in 1965, one of my all-time favorite movies.

    • @geraldcollins8273
      @geraldcollins8273 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We sat in the cinema cheering our heads off
      S

    • @rachelhenderson2688
      @rachelhenderson2688 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh yes, me too! First saw it about the same year as you, when I was in my 20s. Now I am 81 and still happy to watch it (except that now, someone else from the cast has died off each time, it seems!

    • @Hockey-gn2tj
      @Hockey-gn2tj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would love to see it in theatre so much! Too bad it may never happen :(

  • @grahammartin5299
    @grahammartin5299 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I first saw this great movie when I went Kapooka Army Training Camp in Australia. 🇦🇺. I was inspired by the teamwork, pride, passion to my mates and last but not least my country’s Flag. To this day I still get goose bumps when I watch this outstanding movie.

    • @patrickmuro5778
      @patrickmuro5778 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those are all great except for a country's flag. Patriotism doesn't mean defending imperialism, colonialism, invading and occupying other people's homes. We must accept and take responsibilities for our atrocities so we can take pride in what is courageous and brave.

    • @13CirkesTopGuy52
      @13CirkesTopGuy52 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patrickmuro5778 there is nothing wrong with being proud of your countries flag, particular Great Britain, one of, if not the most, influential countries in human history and I also doubt. You speak truly when you say “we” because you are sounding largely like a Jewish man again trying to make Europeans shameful and reject their great history that forged the modern world, Africans would have and still haven’t achieved anything, ever. The modern world was made by Europeans and colonialism was helpful to African tribes in the long run for without it, they would still be starving to death, mauling each other to death and living poor lives. But i forget that they live those lives anyway because they killed and expelled the white citizens of Africa and hence ruined the continent. Jews like you just want to make Europeans ashamed of their culture and to reject it so you can reduce them to nothing but slaves that don’t know it.

  • @DukeofConnaught977
    @DukeofConnaught977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Welshmen never yield!

    • @nickjung7394
      @nickjung7394 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It wasn't a Welsh regiment!

    • @gethin9896
      @gethin9896 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@nickjung7394but the song is Welsh

    • @nickjung7394
      @nickjung7394 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gethin9896 you do know that this particular event did not happen? Simply Stanley Baker and Hollywood's attempt at rewriting history!

    • @reluctentninja
      @reluctentninja 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@nickjung7394 of course it was " south Wales Borderers 24th of foot" what are you talking about.

    • @reluctentninja
      @reluctentninja 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nickjung7394 what on earth are you talking about, yes it happened and it resulted in the most awards of the VC in one Battle.

  • @samuelsinclair3521
    @samuelsinclair3521 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    A real manly song full of virile fearless bravery

  • @darkwoods1224
    @darkwoods1224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    This is a good song, but I wish we had more versions of it.

    • @patrioticarchive
      @patrioticarchive  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      There's quite a few versions tbh. Try typing into TH-cam, Men of Harlech various artists.

    • @DomCarlosI
      @DomCarlosI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There are many versions actually

    • @hotdogking5910
      @hotdogking5910 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hope no disco remixs

    • @TFZ.
      @TFZ. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hotdogking5910 🤣🤣 WHAT? NO DISCO?

    • @hotdogking5910
      @hotdogking5910 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TFZ. yes its a patrotic song and it sounds amazing normal and disco remixs will ruin it so leave it the way

  • @xzliam
    @xzliam ปีที่แล้ว +440

    Being a Scotsman who has just visited harlech I’d proudly sing with my British brothers in arms

    • @ViktoriousDead
      @ViktoriousDead ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It was the Irish and scots at this battle anyways, not the welsh

    • @richardmcgonigle1160
      @richardmcgonigle1160 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I cannae sing fir toffee but id join in...haha

    • @jackdavid2898
      @jackdavid2898 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@ViktoriousDead wrong the welsh was actually in that battle just wasn't many

    • @CarlJones-in8pm
      @CarlJones-in8pm ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The songs actually about killing the Saxon invaders.

    • @CarlJones-in8pm
      @CarlJones-in8pm ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@ViktoriousDead out of the 122 soldiers at roukes drift 32 were Welsh 16 Irish and a lost Scots man .

  • @DerMarschliedKamerad
    @DerMarschliedKamerad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Loved the song and the movie.

  • @tomerdman9255
    @tomerdman9255 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    This has to be one of the most stirring pieces of martial music ever composed.

  • @Voodoomaria
    @Voodoomaria 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    To this day an INCREDIBLE movie.
    The scene where the Zulu crest the hills surrounding Rorke's Drift...CHILLING.
    Imagine 150 men facing 4000 Zulu Warriors, and holding them off.
    Inconceivable, and yet it happened.

    • @beccabbea2511
      @beccabbea2511 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are so correct. This is a brilliant film. So imagine our disappointment. My husband was in the British Army, we were posted to Gibraltar way back 1979 or thereabouts, where television viewing was limited. So at peak viewing time up pops what we all thought was going to be this incredible film. Nope, it was an advert for Silk Cut cigarettes. Mind you it got most people talking about it the next day and it was a brilliant advert, even if we don’t smoke. That was when they made adverts that were almost as good as great films.
      One bit in the film that really struck home is at the end as the roll call is taken. Maybe, just maybe we will eventually again see film directors and producers who will have the courage of these men and make films that are not PC and are fit to be watched.

  • @antonyleonard499
    @antonyleonard499 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I remember going to see this film with my dad its,one of my earliest memories back in the 60s .Watched it many times since a great film great actors and it was respectful to those brave warriors on both sides

  • @antonyleonard499
    @antonyleonard499 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Film did those brave warriors on both sides proud
    RIP ..

  • @jamesknight6890
    @jamesknight6890 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    Despite being English this sends shivers down my spine, and Is an incredible patriotic song not just for the welsh but all Britons. I know some Welsh people don’t like being part of the United Kingdom and some of those reasons are understandable, but nevertheless the greatness the United Kingdom has achieved in its 316 years belongs to all its people and the Welsh, Scot’s, Irish and English together achieved what alone we never could have, it’s our difference of ideas and unique mix of cultures that make the United Kingdom so amazing, although I understand some separatist desires, please don’t through this beautiful nation away, we all belong together as a family of nations that together have achieve greatness. 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @TaySplatoon
      @TaySplatoon ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Exactly

    • @daveharvey8460
      @daveharvey8460 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well said Mr Knight

    • @doomedrpgproject4473
      @doomedrpgproject4473 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, nothing says Welsh patrioticism like shooting a bunch of Africans.

    • @ViktoriousDead
      @ViktoriousDead ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The real battle of Rorks drift wasn’t even welsh, it was English, Scots and Irish

    • @lewiskx20
      @lewiskx20 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I'm Welsh and proud but also take pride in calling myself British.

  • @hfhso37ndnks
    @hfhso37ndnks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Men of Harlech stop your dreaming,
    Can’t you see their spear points gleaming?
    See their warrior pennant’s streaming,
    To this battlefield,
    Men of Harlech stand ye steady,
    It cannot be ever said ye,
    For the battle we’re not ready,
    Welshman never yield!
    From the hills rebounding,
    Let this war cry sounding,
    Summon all at Cambrias call,
    The mighty force surrounding,
    Men of Harlech onto glory,
    This will ever be your story,
    Keep these burning words before ye,
    Welshman will not yield!
    Men of Harlech stop your dreaming,
    Can’t you see their spear points gleaming?
    See their warrior pennant’s streaming,
    To this battlefield,
    Men of Harlech stand ye steady,
    It cannot be ever said ye,
    For the battle we’re not ready,
    Welshman never yield!
    From the hills rebounding,
    Let this war cry sounding,
    Summon all at Cambrias call,
    The mighty force surrounding,
    Men of Harlech onto glory,
    This will ever be your story,
    Keep these burning words before ye,
    Welshman will not yield!

    • @CarlJones-in8pm
      @CarlJones-in8pm ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's actually three different lyrics for this song and I believe this is the film version.

    • @hfhso37ndnks
      @hfhso37ndnks ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CarlJones-in8pm Yes, it was write for the movie.

    • @johndowd5792
      @johndowd5792 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brilliant song Brilliant. But doesn't hide the fact they shag sheep!!😮

    • @Shooter4547
      @Shooter4547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome.

    • @alganhar1
      @alganhar1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CarlJones-in8pm 3 different ENGLISH lyrics.... Try listening to it in Cymraig.....

  • @RobertKubas
    @RobertKubas ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A truely beautiful and inspiring song.

  • @williamstyers4264
    @williamstyers4264 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Incredible bravery on both sides in this battle. Can you conceive of charging into unrelenting rifle fire with a cowhide shield and a spear? Never doubt the courage of the Zulu warriors.

  • @janhoskins8277
    @janhoskins8277 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    One of the best movies I've ever seen - and watch it often, never get tired of it

    • @knothead5
      @knothead5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. I have seen it several times and never get tired of it.

    • @Hockey-gn2tj
      @Hockey-gn2tj ปีที่แล้ว

      I listen to the song regularly especially with the Zulu chants lmfao

    • @janhoskins8277
      @janhoskins8277 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've watched it so many times and will never get tired of it

  • @hecouldbeanyoneofus1559
    @hecouldbeanyoneofus1559 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    If a position is against impossible odds, use the English or the welsh to defend it. If you need to take a position against impossible odds, use the Scottish or Irish.

    • @multimadnesscountryballs
      @multimadnesscountryballs ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Dam that quote goes hard.

    • @hecouldbeanyoneofus1559
      @hecouldbeanyoneofus1559 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      😎

    • @silverjohn6037
      @silverjohn6037 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      If you need to end a war get the Canadians with Arthur Currie commanding;).

    • @gimpygunner7327
      @gimpygunner7327 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Quality statement

    • @BiggestBallsack680
      @BiggestBallsack680 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@brianmcpherson7786Nothing more factual has ever been said, maybe enoch powell warning us but that's about it...

  • @simonmorris4226
    @simonmorris4226 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Such brave and admirable men. On both sides.

  • @MonarchistMusic
    @MonarchistMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    God I love this song

  • @TheSgillHistory
    @TheSgillHistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Never heard this one!
    Very nice!

  • @ChrisJackson-c2l
    @ChrisJackson-c2l 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    One of the best films ever made ❤️ 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @donmorgan9139
    @donmorgan9139 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was the slow march of the royal inniskillings , of which I was a top cornet player, 1956/58 a proud taffy Morgan

  • @youtubeaccount5738
    @youtubeaccount5738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Also the Slow March of the Welsh Guards!

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    As an Englishman, I love this song. Much love to our Welsh neighbours 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧

    • @ඩඬඩ
      @ඩඬඩ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is just a thophy for the zulus for beating the welsh

    • @oliversherman2414
      @oliversherman2414 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ඩඬඩ a what?

    • @ඩඬඩ
      @ඩඬඩ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@oliversherman2414i mean it was a thophy for the welsh not the zulus

    • @oliversherman2414
      @oliversherman2414 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ඩඬඩ what's thophy?

    • @ඩඬඩ
      @ඩඬඩ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oliversherman2414nevermind

  • @seanjuppe7777
    @seanjuppe7777 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    God bless this song! I love it so much! 👍

  • @denpobedy7881
    @denpobedy7881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    PS, the Zulus had a bunch of rifles at Roarke's drift from the last Brit outfit they overran, plus vastly superior numbers.

    • @trigger399
      @trigger399 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were reserves at Isandhlwana so bypassed the looting of rifles. About 10% of Zulus had outdated rifles such as had been used by the British army several years previously. Seven defenders were killed and six seriously wounded on the barricades - not one by assegai.

  • @joline2730
    @joline2730 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LOVE watching this . . .
    Stirring words - when our backs are to the wall . . .

  • @swmt898
    @swmt898 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Zulu just grabs your heart most films of war is just fighting and gun shots but this shows the hearts and patriotism

  • @TEMPLAR969
    @TEMPLAR969 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Welshmen like the Geordies at the charge of the light Brigade .Hard as flecking nails

    • @alynwillams4297
      @alynwillams4297 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Balaclava Ned being one of them. Wrexham legend.

  • @robw3027
    @robw3027 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Well done lads. Your deeds echo in the hereafter.

    • @graceskerp
      @graceskerp ปีที่แล้ว

      Sung in the high hall of Valhalla

  • @bazthejazz
    @bazthejazz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was one of my father's favorite films. I only watched it recently, to check out what he told me many years ago. Being a dentist, he noted that in one of the scenes where Michael Caine shouts "Fire!", it reveals his amalgam fillings, which didn't exist in the 19th century.

  • @countsnowyofgwainn3996
    @countsnowyofgwainn3996 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Being a Canadian with both English and Scotsman heritage who also had a grandad in the military, just hearing this fills me with such pride and humility.
    Also Welshman and Canadians both are known for not yielding ^^ I salute my Welsh brothers

  • @hotdogking5910
    @hotdogking5910 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    John Williams was a great chap and I got esteffud today and he's my inspiration for EVER COME ON CYMRU

  • @AmusedCricketHelmet-yd9qz
    @AmusedCricketHelmet-yd9qz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Brilliant film and actors. Portraying the Welsh at their best.

    • @ianphillips9455
      @ianphillips9455 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pity lots of the details where changed by Baker (welsh) because it was a English regiment with some Welsh Scots and Irish in it.

  • @voi221
    @voi221 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This tune is truly beautiful.

  • @NihilsineDeo1866.
    @NihilsineDeo1866. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Great song for great People 🇬🇧🤝🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @onedaywewill
    @onedaywewill 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Zulu chief and future South African political leader Mangosuthu Buthelezi played Zulu King Cetshwayo kaMpande, his great-grandfather. Brings a tear to my eyes, and I'm English.

  • @denisdeegan1200
    @denisdeegan1200 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine this song sung in Cardiff at rugby home games. As an Irish man I am glad that the famed Welsh don't. It's tough enough without a backing track like that.

  • @robinpitcher6987
    @robinpitcher6987 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Incredibly stirring rendition of this Welsh anthem. Zulu is a great film that I have watched many times.

  • @matthewhodgson7388
    @matthewhodgson7388 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Zulu is one of the best films of all time

  • @davidbattersby-y1v
    @davidbattersby-y1v 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I watch this film every Christmas and have done for as long as I can remember.

  • @MG-id7hl
    @MG-id7hl ปีที่แล้ว +54

    And today, as was sadly inevitable, Zulu is put in the frame by Prevent for inspiring racism and far right extremism. From this film, I actually learned respect for the Zulus and my Welsh brothers.

    • @stephen4121
      @stephen4121 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup 100% inevitable. Racism is prevalent in all cultures and societies, always has been.
      Good to fight the fight, but don't ever expect to win.

    • @jaybrough4374
      @jaybrough4374 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They should seek correct information from the Zulu king who advised on this production.
      Speak to real people who know and care how. their ancestors were portrayed as BRAVE WARRIORS of the BRAVE RESPECTED ZULU NATION.

    • @johncater7861
      @johncater7861 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Zulus showed no compassion for the people and tribes that they overran. They were a violent people who gave no quarter.

    • @johannabarry4672
      @johannabarry4672 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I always cry at the end because the Zulus could have won but salute fellow braves instead. It is one of the most powerful and beautiful scenes in movie history. I'll bet Prevent has never watched the movie.

    • @nickjung7394
      @nickjung7394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I suggest that you speak with someone from one of the tribes that the Zulus annihilated and whose land they invaded!

  • @robbpatterson6796
    @robbpatterson6796 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are 2 songs I want at my wedding and funeral. Men of Harlech and I can't smile without you

  • @equine2020
    @equine2020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Got that right. Men who believed in right, a cause. Something better than themselves.
    Not to believe in a cause worth dieing for, you're empty inside.
    GOD, COUNTRY, DUTY, , HONOR.

  • @popuptarget7386
    @popuptarget7386 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The gist. Be prideful of your past. Honor your valiant foes but love your countrymen

  • @normandduern2413
    @normandduern2413 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    On one side, small numbers, relatively high tech (I own a Martini-Henry, and it ain't no rapid-fire weapon by any standard) and tremendous courage; on the other side, way larger numbers, very low-tech, and courage second to none. Respect to all involved; may Valhalla greet the warriors from both sides.

    • @nickjung7394
      @nickjung7394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You do know that the Zulus had over 1000 rifles and enormous amounts of ammunition taken from Isandlwana!

    • @normandduern2413
      @normandduern2413 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nickjung7394 None of those would have been in use by the Zulu warriors at Rorke's Drift, the battle depicted in this movie, which was happening at about the same time as Isandlwana some distance away. The Zulus at Rorke's Drift did have a handful of previously captured Martinis but as they had no small arms training they had very limited effect.

    • @nickjung7394
      @nickjung7394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@normandduern2413 check your dates and the facts. Zulus took over 1000 rifles from Isandlwana. You will be telling me next that Zulus can't shoot because they can't shut one eye; I suggest you have a conversation with a Zulu! And, of course, the Martini Henry was easier to fire than the rifles that the Zulus already had. Zulus are not thick....they were quite capable of firing Martini Henrys!

    • @normandduern2413
      @normandduern2413 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nickjung7394 "Although the Zulu position was a commanding one - a squad of good shots armed with efficient rifles could have made Chard's position untenable within minutes - the Zulus were neither good shots, nor well armed." (Ian Knight, Rorke's Drift 1879, "Pinned Like Rats in a Hole"; Osprey Campaign Series #41, Osprey Publishing 1996), p. 38. As to dates, the Battle of Isandlawana took place on January 22, 1879; that of Rorke’s drift, six miles from Isandlwana, also began on January 22 and carried on into January 23 1879. Had captured weapons been in play at Rorke’s drift, the British force would have been wiped out in an eyeblink. By the way, the Zulus despised rifles, regarding them as unmanly; they prized assegais.

    • @nickjung7394
      @nickjung7394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@normandduern2413 and how long do you think it would have taken a Zulu warrior to run six miles, even if he was carrying a rifle and ammunition?

  • @jaysaunders3101
    @jaysaunders3101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Inspirational song and great historical film.. From a time when MEN WERE MEN

  • @Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs.
    @Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs. ปีที่แล้ว +57

    As an Englishman I will always mock in a friendly manner our Welsh fellows and accept it in return. But you're a fine people, and with us or without us whatever the future may hold, the very best to you.

    • @davidperry7128
      @davidperry7128 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Welsh are like everybody else, good, bad and indifferent, no nationalities or races are 'fine'.

  • @equine2020
    @equine2020 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Men who believed in something more important than themselves.
    These are the strong who protect the weak.
    Bless all warriors such as these.

  • @robtoe10
    @robtoe10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I do wonder what the Battle of Rorke's Drift would've looked like if the redcoats had modern weaponry and ammunition 🤔🤔🤔

    • @99IronDuke
      @99IronDuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You mean instead of having single shot rifles and being outnumbered 45 to one as they really were in a 12 hour battle?

    • @patrickmuro5778
      @patrickmuro5778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These soldiers showed great bravery, but I would have armed the Africans protecting their home.

    • @mynameudste
      @mynameudste ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Patrick Muro the zulus were an expansionist force in the region.

    • @roterbaron6862
      @roterbaron6862 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was wäre gewesen, hätten Deutsche Truppen 1916 an der Westfront schon das mg 42 gehabt !!! UPS

    • @TheVZizzle
      @TheVZizzle ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@patrickmuro5778defending their conquest. While they took it fair and square; land is owned by those who can keep it.

  • @gregmichael8473
    @gregmichael8473 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every time I hear Men of Harlech, at the end I feel like yelling "Front Rank Fire!". Seriously though, I've been to South Africa and when visiting Royal Natal National Park I had a sense of deja vu, only realising later that's where they made the film. The mountainous backdrop of the Drakensbergs was very familiar. A couple of days later got to go to Rorke's Drift itself. Was still just a small settlement with some memorials and I recall a diorama of the battle. On trips to the UK, I've been to the Regimental Museum in Brecon and also visited Chard's grave in Somerset., such was the impact the movie had on me.

  • @davesaunders568
    @davesaunders568 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Brilliant film, brilliant actors. If push comes to shove. All of the people of Great Britain and indeed Eire will be together to protect our way of life.

    • @douglasfitzovich3366
      @douglasfitzovich3366 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of the most impressive features of the film is it depicted the courage and honor of BOTH sides. One faced overwhelming numbers, the other faced advanced weapons (for the time) and a well disciplined force in a solid defensive position. It also depicted the respect of both forces for the courage of their opponents.

    • @davidperry7128
      @davidperry7128 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@douglasfitzovich3366 Seemingly by dishonouring a model soldier, Hook was just such a man but portrayed as malingerer.

  • @ryansta
    @ryansta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always brings a lump to the throat this song. Magic

  • @markhaughton9563
    @markhaughton9563 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Outstanding!

  • @JamesA.Garfield
    @JamesA.Garfield 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No background music makes this song so beautiful

  • @theconfederacyofindependen7268
    @theconfederacyofindependen7268 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Men of Harlech, march to glory,
    Victory is hov'ring o'er ye,
    Bright-eyed freedom stands before ye,
    Hear ye not her call?
    At your sloth she seems to wonder;
    Rend the sluggish bonds asunder,
    Let the war-cry's deaf'ning thunder
    Every foe appall.
    Echoes loudly waking,
    Hill and valley shaking;
    'Till the sound spreads wide around,
    The Saxon's courage breaking;
    Your foes on every side assailing,
    Forward press with heart unfailing,
    'Till invaders learn with quailing,
    Cambria ne'er can yield!

    • @nickjung7394
      @nickjung7394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shaggy coats
      Are meant for goats
      Gorillas, yaks and llamas
      We'll climb Snowdon
      With our woad on
      We don't care if we're rained or snowed on

  • @WelshAmericanChannel
    @WelshAmericanChannel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello from the Welsh American Channel. Just want to let you know that we Welsh Americans are also interested in what is going on in Wales and Welsh patriotic music. Cymru am byth!

  • @zeurd9510
    @zeurd9510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Underrated channel, I love this scene from the zulu film

  • @johnmarlin7269
    @johnmarlin7269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant and beautiful.

  • @lengthmuldoon
    @lengthmuldoon ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best version imo

  • @trevorlowman4752
    @trevorlowman4752 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never knew all the words although one of my favourite films. Thanks

  • @Lorddonen
    @Lorddonen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Cymru am byth 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿❤️

    • @lennydale92
      @lennydale92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Your flag translates as the England flag for some reason lol

    • @Lorddonen
      @Lorddonen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lennydale92 Strange lol

    • @paulleckner8235
      @paulleckner8235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Croeso i Gymru (Welcome to Wales)@@Lorddonen

  • @civillady13
    @civillady13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my all time favorite scenes in this awesome film!

  • @eifionwynwilliams-iffy1288
    @eifionwynwilliams-iffy1288 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    goosebumps....

  • @petebondurant58
    @petebondurant58 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "They're saluting you. They're saluting fellow braves."

  • @mildredvallely1413
    @mildredvallely1413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was a great movie

  • @paulthomas-hh2kv
    @paulthomas-hh2kv ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Song is about the Siege of Harlech Castle in 1461 during the Wars of the Roses. Which they held for 7 years

    • @CarlJones-in8pm
      @CarlJones-in8pm ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's also associated with Owain Glyndwr seige of the castle in 1401

    • @501sqn3
      @501sqn3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ....and has absolutely nothing to do with the battle of Rorkes Drift!!🤦

    • @CarlJones-in8pm
      @CarlJones-in8pm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@501sqn3 apart from the version in the film which was written for the film.

    • @alynwillams4297
      @alynwillams4297 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was originally about the Welsh holding the castle against the English and then later used in the war of the roses

  • @Welshpatriots
    @Welshpatriots ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta use this on my video intro thanks for sharing

  • @kengurovich4416
    @kengurovich4416 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite movie of all time " ZULU " thank you .

  • @johng1216
    @johng1216 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hair on the back of the neck is up, what a great rendition or this great song.

  • @jacintabkenny7047
    @jacintabkenny7047 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They should make more movie and TV shows like this

  • @nbenefiel
    @nbenefiel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of my once a year films.

  • @roberttrott5259
    @roberttrott5259 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An alternate version:
    1.
    What's the good of wearing braces,
    Vests and pants and boots with laces,
    Spats or hats you buy in places
    Down in Brompton Road?
    What's the use of shirts of cotton,
    Studs that always get forgotten?
    These affairs are simply rotten:
    Better far is woad.
    Woad's the stuff to show, men.
    Woad to scare your foemen:
    Boil it to a brilliant hue
    And rub it on your back and your abdomen.
    Ancient Briton ne'er did hit on
    Anything as good as woad to fit on
    Neck, or knees, or where you sit on.
    Tailors, you be blowed.
    2.
    Romans came across the Channel
    All wrapped up in tin and flannel:
    Half a pint of woad per man'll
    Dress us more than these.
    Saxons, you can waste your stitches
    Building beds for bugs in britches:
    We have woad to clothe us, which is
    Not a nest for fleas.
    Romans keep your armours;
    Saxons your pyjamas:
    Hairy coats were meant for goats,
    Gorillas, yaks, retriever dogs and llamas.
    Tramp up Snowdon with our woad on:
    Never mind if we get rained or blowed on.
    Never want a button sewed on.
    Go it, Ancient Bs.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Anthem_of_the_Ancient_Britons

    • @mjona1754
      @mjona1754 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @hugmal37
      @hugmal37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Listened to and partly learned that version through the three years spent at St. Luke's College of Education where a large percentage of the students (male only) were Welsh - many with International Rugby experience of one kind or another. Playing and singing with them as the Yorkshire born grandson of Welsh grandparents was a joy. I had never seen a printed version but I have it now. Thank You. I can sing it again with gusto. Cymru am byth.

  • @truck-kun535
    @truck-kun535 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone related to a rorkes drif veteran thank you thank you very much you made my day

  • @andyanderson5326
    @andyanderson5326 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    If only the Welsh fans at an international rugby game would sing like this again. I’m sure it would make a difference.

  • @piotrd.4850
    @piotrd.4850 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two songs clashing in the movie was possibly greatest artistic license ever ...!

  • @freeman8128
    @freeman8128 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Brave and mighty men on both sides of a war that should never have been.

    • @tudyk21
      @tudyk21 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Two imperial armies clashed.
      To hope or declare that "it should not happen" is to deny the nature of mankind, itself.

  • @deandavies9576
    @deandavies9576 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Makes me proud to be of english/welsh heritage as u guys from the uk will see from my surname😊

  • @AVPalmerERY
    @AVPalmerERY 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An old PE teacher I had was from Wales (I live in Western USA) and he had an amazing singing voice, even after living in the USA he still had a great Welsh Choir voice

    • @hugmal37
      @hugmal37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did your PE Teacher train at St Luke's College? I had the great privilege of being there 1957 - 60 after our National Service in the RAF. Because of my paternal Welsh grandparents, I had a fairly good voice but I shut up when all those Welsh lads started singing - particularly after a rugby game. Playing with them was a great experience: singing with them was a great pleasure. I know that several of the lads came over to US and I, along with a few others, came to Canada in '66.

  • @davidnicholson1305
    @davidnicholson1305 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The 24th of foot was not a Welsh regiment
    It became the South Wales Borders some years after the Zulu wars

    • @celticguy197531
      @celticguy197531 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not some years only 3 years after the Zulu Wars they became the SWB in 1881

    • @501sqn3
      @501sqn3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@celticguy197531 three years is 'some' years!! 🤦😂

    • @celticguy197531
      @celticguy197531 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@501sqn3 Not that I am going to disagree with you on the "maths" but when people say "some years ago" it is implied that the years they are talking about are more than 3/4 years, while a few years after the war would be more correct

    • @501sqn3
      @501sqn3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@celticguy197531 Tut 🙄

    • @jimcarter7035
      @jimcarter7035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True but they had relocated to brecon in 1873