I was 5 when this movie came out, went to see it with my parents and brother back when they had drive ins. During the climatic final battle my brother had to go to the bathroom, forcing my Dad to miss it. We still laugh about it today 😂
I think I read that the Zulus in this battle were the reserve for Isandlwana battle and were not to engage even after the battle. They did and then found it extremely frustrating trying to break the lines iof a well defended fort. There were also no hills and it was mostly flat and barren but Cy Enfield wanted the hills for the cinemaography. In general the Zulus were coerced into the Zulu War in the first place by the British who sought total donimation.
Yes but king Cetshwayo had given orders not to attack the British unless they crossed the border into Zululand. That's why the Battle of Isandlwana happened. However Cetshwayo's half brother Dabulamanzi kaMpande was irked at being in the reserve & wanted glory for himself so he pushed on into British occupied territory in South Africa & attacked at Rorke's Drift which was all the excuse the British government needed to go in officially declaring war & completely crush the Zulu kingdom
I did research for this film and apparently because of budget restrictions there were only 300 Zulus who were actually employed for the battle scenes but due to clever cinematography and editing it seemed that there were more taking part.I dare say if the film were remade today there would be 1000's of more Zulus on the payroll to give it more of an authentic feel.
You can see in some scenes where they constructed boards to look like lines of Zulu's in the far away shots and in the background. They did an amazing job of making it look like there were 1000's attacking or waiting to attack. Compared to a film like 1970's Waterloo where they actually used 1000's of soldiers in costumes it's quite a contrast. Both films had showed epic numbers but they were made very differently. The Waterloo set must have been quite the thing to see in all it's grandeur spectacle.
@@robshirewood5060 Common knowledge. The British started the battle with 20K rounds of ammunition, and inflicted 800 casualties, including the wounded Zulu who were given a coup de grace after the battle. Supposedly, there were insufficient medical facilities to deal with the Zulu wounded.
@@roberthudson1959 I have never read that anywhere i will have to do some deeper research. Considering the rifles were often red hot and they had to use rags to protect their hands which did get burned, i wonder how many rounds were lost in accidents or due to worn barrels, and other associated problems, i guess it will never be known One Surgeon and 4 medical orderlies (or detailed infantrymen or commissaries) would indeed be too small a medical force, and the bullet and bayonet made a messy wound (the bayonets were not the best quality so i heard at the museum in Brecon)
I would say that's probably the norm for every battle since the invention of breech loading rifles up until now in 2024 for every country in the world.
If any of you have seen the original "Gladiator" movie and remember the build-up to the opening battle scene, then you might notice that Ridley Scott's sound design guy stole the sound from THIS movie and put it in "Gladiator." Which of course means that Zulu warriors were vacationing in Germany and just happened to passing through, I guess. I laugh every time I hear it.
It’s interesting that here the Zulus attack in waves of like 200 yet there was a scene earlier where you see thousands on the hill when the British are staring at them
@@roberthudson1959 Exactly why good officers and nco choose the ground. A classic was Agincourt where the French were funnelled into a killing ground by good choice of terrain.
This area was not the same as the real area of the fight. The British were on a higher raised ground. Plus the grain bags gave them an advantage.firing down on the Zulu fighters. Go an see. Interesting place to visit.
And no open ground to advance across. Channels in the ground (they have a name but I have forgotten), so jump up, a couple of running steps and you are in combat.
Went to the musium in Brecon well worth going there all the zooloo stuff and the original english flag and chairs they had there at the time.Even held one of the guns worth a visit people.
@@lyndoncmp5751 And they were acting against the direct orders of King Cetshwayo's order to act only in defence of Zululand against the invading British soldiers and not carry the war over the border into enemy territory.
@@zedeyejoe Indeed. They were jealous of the younger regiments seeing action and success at Isandlwana and didn't want to go back home without tasting their own victory.
Before apartheid fell in South Africa there was a news story of zulu's driving people out of their area, they were other black's, not zulu's, who'd moved into their area and the Zulu felt they were stealing jobs so the zulu's decided to drive them out by attacking their shanty village (the police let it happen since it stopped groups form uniting) and I remember seeing on NBC news the Zulu's forming up just like this only with garden tools instead of asagi and i remember one in a pink Adidas t-shirt but other wise it lookedl ike this and was pretty frightening.
@@lycian123 I agree, but today Hollywood wouldn’t touch it for the fear of some of the public calling it racist. Disney had a black Snow White for heavens sake, that’s how bad it is.
@@kalbs89 They made a different version of the old fairy tail to reach a larger audience and make more money. Capitalism, Buddy. The market knows best. Why do you hate freedom?
The Zulus arrived from isandlwana at the run there was no posing on top of a hill or shield banging nor was there any singing . Someone should tell the real story
@@TimHartley-yk2hc Not at Rorkes Drift and Isandlwana. The Zulus had their own guns there. Not as modern or as good as the British Martini Henry rifles but they could and did still kill. The Zulus had been trading for guns for decades, and by the time the 1879 Anglo-Zulu War began there were around 20,000 older guns in circulation in Zululand. After Isandlwana of course, the Zulus used captured Martini Henry rifles and ammo and deployed them at Gingindlovu, Hlobane and Khambula.
Probably the greatest film ever to include hundreds of if not thousands of actual bonafide Zulu warriors reenacting the Battle of Roarke's Drift
Must have been really strange for them having been related to those who had actually been there...
Among the best ever Action Movies.
Bromhead :
“Independent..Fire at will” !!!
Soldier : “That’s very nice of him” . Idk why but this just cracks me up lol
Gallows humor I guess or just a nice little smartass comment
I was 5 when this movie came out, went to see it with my parents and brother back when they had drive ins. During the climatic final battle my brother had to go to the bathroom, forcing my Dad to miss it. We still laugh about it today 😂
0:58 so I know or we know where Ridley Scott got the warcry for the Germanic warriors for the opening battle scene in gladiator
Wondered if anyone else ever noticed that lol
@@kubikkuratko188that's a well known fact.
@@jarlnils435 yet this is the first time i see someone mention it, just because you know it doesn't mean everyone does
Like any Friday night on Chicago’s south side.
Or a late night in Dublin…
Perhaps a Saturday in Sicily.
Damn Skippy!!!
I remember watching this scene in the 2000s as a kid. Damn time flies 😂😂
Very good movie! I've watched it many times now
I think I read that the Zulus in this battle were the reserve for Isandlwana battle and were not to engage even after the battle. They did and then found it extremely frustrating trying to break the lines iof a well defended fort. There were also no hills and it was mostly flat and barren but Cy Enfield wanted the hills for the cinemaography. In general the Zulus were coerced into the Zulu War in the first place by the British who sought total donimation.
Yes but king Cetshwayo had given orders not to attack the British unless they crossed the border into Zululand. That's why the Battle of Isandlwana happened. However Cetshwayo's half brother Dabulamanzi kaMpande was irked at being in the reserve & wanted glory for himself so he pushed on into British occupied territory in South Africa & attacked at Rorke's Drift which was all the excuse the British government needed to go in officially declaring war & completely crush the Zulu kingdom
There was a hill, called the oscarberg, which overlooked the camp
The Zulu commander fed his forces in piecemeal. If he had attacked with his full strength at once, Rorke's Drift could have been overrun.
Just like the Japanese during WW2 they did not adapt to the situation and stuck to the original plan. No matter how daunting the situation.
Michael Cain was an enlisted man in the British Army during the Korean War where he saw real combat.
3:47 Prematurely celebrating by vocalizing Deck the Halls!
So well shoot and directed on so many levels.
I did research for this film and apparently because of budget restrictions there were only 300 Zulus who were actually employed for the battle scenes but due to clever cinematography and editing it seemed that there were more taking part.I dare say if the film were remade today there would be 1000's of more Zulus on the payroll to give it more of an authentic feel.
No there would just be a bunch of really crappy CGI Zulus.
You can see in some scenes where they constructed boards to look like lines of Zulu's in the far away shots and in the background. They did an amazing job of making it look like there were 1000's attacking or waiting to attack.
Compared to a film like 1970's Waterloo where they actually used 1000's of soldiers in costumes it's quite a contrast. Both films had showed epic numbers but they were made very differently. The Waterloo set must have been quite the thing to see in all it's grandeur spectacle.
Over the course of the battle, the British fired over 20 rounds for each Zulu casualty, including the ones that were executed after the battle.
where did you get that information from
@@robshirewood5060 Common knowledge. The British started the battle with 20K rounds of ammunition, and inflicted 800 casualties, including the wounded Zulu who were given a coup de grace after the battle. Supposedly, there were insufficient medical facilities to deal with the Zulu wounded.
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@@roberthudson1959 I have never read that anywhere i will have to do some deeper research. Considering the rifles were often red hot and they had to use rags to protect their hands which did get burned, i wonder how many rounds were lost in accidents or due to worn barrels, and other associated problems, i guess it will never be known
One Surgeon and 4 medical orderlies (or detailed infantrymen or commissaries) would indeed be too small a medical force, and the bullet and bayonet made a messy wound (the bayonets were not the best quality so i heard at the museum in Brecon)
I would say that's probably the norm for every battle since the invention of breech loading rifles up until now in 2024 for every country in the world.
Rorke's Drift was insane!
'Has insane'. What in the heck is that suposed to mean?
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CREDITS:
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Cast:
Screenwriter: John Prebble, Cy Endfield
Director: Cy Endfield
Maybe in the future you can do their Zulu song.
If any of you have seen the original "Gladiator" movie and remember the build-up to the opening battle scene, then you might notice that Ridley Scott's sound design guy stole the sound from THIS movie and put it in "Gladiator." Which of course means that Zulu warriors were vacationing in Germany and just happened to passing through, I guess. I laugh every time I hear it.
It’s interesting that here the Zulus attack in waves of like 200 yet there was a scene earlier where you see thousands on the hill when the British are staring at them
Terrain often limits the number of soldiers that can attack at any given time.
@@roberthudson1959 Exactly why good officers and nco choose the ground. A classic was Agincourt where the French were funnelled into a killing ground by good choice of terrain.
"Their just standing there asking for it, keep firing soldier, mark your targets before you fire"
This area was not the same as the real area of the fight. The British were on a higher raised ground. Plus the grain bags gave them an advantage.firing down on the Zulu fighters. Go an see. Interesting place to visit.
And no open ground to advance across. Channels in the ground (they have a name but I have forgotten), so jump up, a couple of running steps and you are in combat.
too good to be true
When the British were based
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
Went to the musium in Brecon well worth going there all the zooloo stuff and the original english flag and chairs they had there at the time.Even held one of the guns worth a visit people.
Good movie. But, what a slaughter for the Zulu tribes.
In fact they didn't lose that many at Rorkes Drift. It was at Isandlwana that the Zulu were slaughtered, there they faced 1,800 British soldiers.
This battle was in Natal. The Zulus were the aggressors here. They weren't defending their land, but attacking a hospital and storehouse in Natal.
@@lyndoncmp5751 And they were acting against the direct orders of King Cetshwayo's order to act only in defence of Zululand against the invading British soldiers and not carry the war over the border into enemy territory.
@@zedeyejoe Indeed. They were jealous of the younger regiments seeing action and success at Isandlwana and didn't want to go back home without tasting their own victory.
And one thing to remember, those Zulu did it barefoot. Both in battle and in the film.
2:22 Michael Caine has poor British dental work.
A true Brit!
TBH that type of filling was normal for both sides of the Atlantic in the days that the movie was made.
@ Thanks! I was talking about Michael Caine.
He is British and so are all his parts; the terrific natural gifts and the poorly installed bits.
They all moved to London after this film was completed!
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If the zulus didnt just stand there then they would have probably overrun smth
I'm sure the landlord from the Winchester club,(in minder,the series),is there in red. 🤓
Love all movies about the British Empire!🤓🤓
Before apartheid fell in South Africa there was a news story of zulu's driving people out of their area, they were other black's, not zulu's, who'd moved into their area and the Zulu felt they were stealing jobs so the zulu's decided to drive them out by attacking their shanty village (the police let it happen since it stopped groups form uniting) and I remember seeing on NBC news the Zulu's forming up just like this only with garden tools instead of asagi and i remember one in a pink Adidas t-shirt but other wise it lookedl ike this and was pretty frightening.
Bayette.
Hmmm when were amalgam fillings de rigour?
Back in the day when the British didn't fanny about.
They couldn't make this movie today, it would be deemed racist
Why? It showed courage on both sides.
Explain. It shows the bravery of both sides and no racist overtones.
@@lycian123 I agree, but today Hollywood wouldn’t touch it for the fear of some of the public calling it racist. Disney had a black Snow White for heavens sake, that’s how bad it is.
@@kalbs89 They made a different version of the old fairy tail to reach a larger audience and make more money. Capitalism, Buddy. The market knows best. Why do you hate freedom?
LOL sacrificed all those warriors just to get a count check on the guns. Soooo stupid.
Probably wishing they had artillery
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A tiger in Africa?!
I was so ignorant and brainwashed by American society as a young black boy, that I was actúally rooting for the British.
I understand the brain washing is deeper than people will openly admit
"They'll be back" so that's where The Terminator got his line..
Si los zulue uvicen tenido armas de fuego no queda un pirata Vivo ..mis respetos para esos gerreros zulú
A little view of the massacre that made for the english.
You have something constructive to say?
Yes, all the movies are full of bullshit.
The Zulus arrived from isandlwana at the run there was no posing on top of a hill or shield banging nor was there any singing . Someone should tell the real story
First
I like the history of the Mighty British Army getting their ASS KICKED but Natives with Spears ..TWICE !!
Isandlwana was a tactical error. Then at Rorke's Drift we held them off, and at Ulundi we wiped them out. Hardly an 'ass kicking', old chap.
The Zulus had more guns than the British in these battles.
@lyndoncmp5751 Guns they took from British .
@@TimHartley-yk2hc Not at Rorkes Drift and Isandlwana. The Zulus had their own guns there. Not as modern or as good as the British Martini Henry rifles but they could and did still kill. The Zulus had been trading for guns for decades, and by the time the 1879 Anglo-Zulu War began there were around 20,000 older guns in circulation in Zululand.
After Isandlwana of course, the Zulus used captured Martini Henry rifles and ammo and deployed them at Gingindlovu, Hlobane and Khambula.
the Americans got theirs kicked in 1812.
Zulu! Zulu! Zulu! - Shut up!!! BLAMMO!!! That shut them up. What kind of idiot brings a thin animals skin shield to a gun fight? BLAMMO!
What a racist movie shame on them.
The Zulus were African...
How?
There isn't a single scene in this movie in which Zulu warriors are unfairly depicted. We see 2 factions fighting with honour and courage.
It is calld technological superiority.
Enough of the woke left wing comments
This was filmed in Chicago.
Bro why does the Zulu shield look like a chip