The Art of Being an NFL Draft Bust
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The NFL Draft is as intriguing as it is year after year because of the uncertainty that hangs on each pick regardless of how sure they seem. When the margin for error is as small as it is in pro football, it doesn't take much to ruin all of the momentum you carried on your way into the league, but for a select few, the stories their short careers follow almost make it look like they were trying to be remembered as a bust all along.
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You should do a vid on how every team since 2010 won the Super Bowl and how their team worked
So sb nation?
Doug Robinson I mean these channels are very similar. And both very good.
That will be like 30 minute video
I love that idea
Omg yes
Ryan Leaf is just a mess of a human. It's also weird because he gives really funny, insightful and honest interviews, then proceeds to do something stupid to get arrested yet again. It's quite a human tragedy. Makes you appreciate the likes of Kurt Warner or Russell Wilson who were nobodies and became super bowl champs through their hard work.
Kurt Warner has to be one of the most interesting stories in all of NFL history. He has a "A football life" episode. Almost cried TBH
Well Russell Wilson was great at Wisconsin.
@George Harry they definitely did. Wilson more because of The Legion of Boom. Warner, however, had to lead The Greatest Show on Turf. Warner exceeded expectations.
I feel bad for Leaf. His name is synonymous with failure. If someone fails in a particular field, they're dubbed the "Ryan Leaf of" whatever they failed at. That's gotta sting.
Just so everyone knows Ryan Leaf is actually a really good human now. He runs programs to help people get off drugs, as he has been sober for more than 6 years.
I've got a lot of respect for Tony Mandarich due to the fact that he overcame his substance issues and proved that he was an NFL caliber player. That took guts!
They always forget to mention that part
He also protected a rookie/young Payton Manning for the years he returned.
My dad was a huge Packers fan. He never forgave Mandarich. Lol. Even when Mandarich made his come back my dad loathed him.
@@alienlife7754 I know this is incredibly oversimplified, but can you imagine Brett Favre with Barry Sanders??
yeah i saw that documentary too on him. He did fight and find redemption in his football career.
Moral of the story...
STAY FOCUSED!!
The Jamarcus Russell story regarding the empty case is classic.
blank tape*. The empty case was just an illustration
MHNK77 Thing is, they even said it was a dvd case in the video, so they were just flat out wrong.
Step 1: Get drafted number 1 overall.
Step 2: Immediately go to Vegas and party!
Step 3: Don’t about learning the playbook.
Step4: Show up to practice drunk!
*scratches out step 4*
Step4: don’t even show up to practice and training camp or team meetings
Step 3 : proofread
That’s what we call Johnny Football
Step 5: Get fat
Step 6: Make a comeback 3 years later in the cfl or other league
@@christophersalinas2722 nah actually he got skinny af
*first guy in the video*
"Tore his ACL in his first preseason game with the bengals"
Me, a Bengals fan: yep, sounds about right.
Could’ve called that one as soon as someone said “Bengals”
Most snakebit team in the league
@@guaceldono7231 The Browns beg to differ
Joe burrow:
@Harry Engel saquon came close, and probably would've had cleveland not needed a quarterback more.
Funny how there’s an ACL tear from a Bengals player and an LSU QB bust....
*Dwayne Haskins has entered the chat*
@Harry Engel interesting! Maybe fields will finally do it!
@Harry Engel Tom Tupa 1999
👀
Junior Seau showing his leadership skills even in the locker room AFTER the game.
R.I.P. OG Junior Seau
Much respect he was a legend and even though he killed my Buffalo bills when he was with New England I still rooted for him very sad when he passed away greetings from Buffalo New York
Dude was jacked
people like those always leave too soon
"I get paid to practice, I play the games for free" still one of the best quotes by Seau.
It's also something the modern NFL is missing imo, who's the leader of this team, not the pretty boy quarterback, but the god damn badass over there
So you're saying i should go out in a flaming ball of self destruction?
Already on it dawg
I hope when Ryan was released, at least one article was titled "Ryan Leaves"
It's unfortunate that was right before pretty much all papers had a matching internet publication
"Make Like a Tree and Leaf"
Ryan leaf is a totally chill dude now. Just saw him recently on the Pat McAfee show. He’s taken responsibility for his attitude and I think this whole thing made him a better man.
Prison does that to a man once in a while.
He just got arrested for domestic abuse a month ago
wasn't he arrested on domestic battery 2 months ago?
Tee M yikes
This didn't age well lol
6:20 Thanks for bringing excellent Skip Bayless analytics. How could we even think of football without this living genius
Skip doesn't believe half the things he says but he knows what a 'hot take' is and goes from there..believe it or not he was a very good journalist on the L A TImes and Dallas Morning News
Yeah I firmly believe he is trolling most of the time. I mean, you can even see him trying not to smile at 6:27 . He knows he's just making people mad!
The stories of busts are always fascinating, particularly when you gain an understanding of why they were overhyped and why they failed, but I really love stories about the guys who were overlooked and rejected, fought their way onto a team and ended up in the HOF. Dick Lane. Deacon Jones. Marion Motley. Kurt Warner. Johnny Unitas. Bart Starr. Warren Moon. Tom Brady. The list goes on and on of great players who were overlooked or cast aside, but who eventually succeeded. You could do a whole series on them. I'd watch them over and over and over.
A lot of times it seems like some guys are so physically gifted, they’ve never had to work at football very hard. Then they get to the NFL.....and the work ethic they never developed, is hard to come by.
Its like a really smart kid, who never had to study, but then gets to grad school and has no idea how to prepare for a test, because they’ve never needed to.
I feel bad for most draft busts, because really they are just kids and their failure is on the front page and will be talked about for years to come.
I’m kind of shocked that teams investing their future in so much uncertainty, don’t have some kind of mentoring program. An assistant coach or retired player who gets payed a decent salary, just to make sure that the million dollar kid is keeping it together and getting tucked in at bed time. If anything, paying more attention to the psychological and emotional struggle that a young kid who is given tens of millions of dollars suddenly, would seem worth while. Its impossible for a 21 year old to realize that their NFL career will be over in the blink of an eye.
They do... jerry jones once hired 5 people for 2 years to watch pacman
That's why having a good front office and coaching staff is also very important for a young player's successes.
A good example would be Brett Favre. Prior to being traded to the Packers and training/learning under Mike Holmgren (who already had an impressive resume coaching/mentaring Joe Montana and Steve Young for the Niners), he was on his way of becoming another NFL bust with the Falcons.
I've wondered this same thing. I think some - not all but some - players would even be receptive to the idea. Josh Gordon was on like chance number six of trying to keep out of off-field trouble and seems a reasonable guy, he knew what he was and what he was liable to do. You can't tell me hiring a babysitter for another 90K a year wasn't worth a try.
Everybody needs guidance in life as a 20-24 year old. I know I did, and I come from a good family. I know some teams have hired “chaperones” for players with off the field troubles, but I just think especially the young guys, would benefit from somebody reminding them that the goal isn’t to just get in the league, but to be able to sign two near-max contracts later in your career. That and each team should have a player’s financial planner to help them set themselves up for life. So many talented players have been lost due to immaturity.
Some of them get thrown to the lions. Tim Couch comes to mind. The Browns destroyed that kid.
Alternate title to the video: description of most cleveland browns draft pick
LOL noice
Everyone except joe Thomas
@@bobbysflyinghat3722 except joe Thomas
Taco ‘ and Joe Haden, and Nick Chubb, we might be super ass at drafting, but a blind man playing darts is eventually gonna hit a bullseye.
Every Browns' pick since returning to the league.
9:15 I though the DVD was blank, not that the case was empty. It’s a hilarious story either way.
It was a blank tape. The empty case scene was just an illustration. Visual aid for the story
@@MHNK77 so a lie
KTO made a video where they brought up JaMarcus Russel too.
@@MHNK77 No, they also said it was an empty DVD case and not an empty tape.
Putting a VHS cassette into a player is much more effort then just to open an empty DVD case...you have to give him that much. ;)
I think to use the empty DVD case in the video is a very good visual aid, but they text should follow suit to the actual events. But ok, they show the Tweet, where you can read it up yourself that it was an empty tape.
But overall nice that they brought this up.
@@mrxking1 Lmao. It doesn’t really matter if it was an empty case or a black tape. The fact that Russell lied, saying that he knew defensive concepts better from “watching” that tape, is still clear...
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*Al Davis when he sees a fast wr
@@orbit1916 I like that, i like that a lot
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
I swear to god, RG3’s knee bends fueled my nightmares for years.
As someone who’s fucked up a knee playing football. Shit like that, and the first guy makes my damn soul hurt
@@bishopm4401 been there too man. It's rough
You should watch the injury that ended Joe Thiesman's career.
I'll forever blame Shanahan for RG3.
@@jcarson3721 Dan synder had a hand in it as well
That Skip clip has me rolling on the ground laughing
Nah man Jemarcus gotta be number 1 with that empty dvd case story lmfaoooo dude didnt even open the case....
I swear I was just binge watching you an hour ago!!! Thanks for keeping me busy and entertained through all this 🙌🏽🙌🏽
The empty DVD case story killed me 💀😂
I think you left out some stuff about JaMarcus Russell. I just don’t think you painted the full picture, but I would recommend Flemlo raps video on him if anyone wants something a bit more in depth
I'm pretty sure he was just glancing over it but I saw flemlo's video
Nah he wasnt motivated enough
Well said, Mate!
We LOVE Flemlo down here!🍺🇦🇺🦈🏉🍺🇦🇺🦈
Flemlo predicted a 8-8 season for the Bengals last year
Purple Drank...
I can't help but feel that Leaf deserved a finishing note on this video. He was an addict and now is in recovery and works with others in recovery as well. He may not have had football success but he has finally gotten clean and seems much happier in his new life
Daily Reminder that Skip Bayless really sucks at being a sports analyst
Or is he great at it because he’s extremely consistent so if you just go with the opposite of what he says you’ll be right we very time
Matthew Jackson play op op no l poop lol
He just makes claims to get the views, no matter how dumb it is. I never respected the dumbass anyways
Or as a person really.
Pointing out that Skip Bayless is a terrible analyst tends to make people forget what an unethical journalist, and an all around dogshit human being.
The Chosen Bust: Ryan Leaf
Leaf is unbeatable. He’s still failing today.
@America Johnny Football was a notorious party animal before the NFL and Cleveland "The Factory of Sadness" Browns were stupid for drafting him 26th overall. Especially when they paid over 100k for a draft analysis of the best QB n they said it was Teddy Bridgewater ( who was still on the board at the time ) . Still, Johnny Football a low 1st round pick n the Browns 2nd pick in the 1st round.
To draft Ryan Leaf, the then San Diego Chargers had to mortgage A LOT of their future draft picks to trade up to 2nd just get. And success??? This guy won a whopping 4 games over the course of his career, lead the League in turnovers, and was gone in 3 years ( really shouldn't have lasted that long ) .
The biggest difference between the Johnny Football and Ryan Leaf was that, before the draft, EVERYONE thought Ryan Leaf was a future All-Pro ( literally every scout ). Anyone who really scouted "The Legend of Johnny Football" knew his reputation nonstop partying, sloppy hero-ball style of play, and the large possibility he wouldn't make it without having Mike Evans to throw to.
America Never use the name Ryan Leaf and success in the same sentence. It makes you look like a Ryan Leaf.
@America At least try to hide your bias. Everything you just typed was just disproven.
Yujiro Hanma
Jamarcus Russell: “Hold my double cup.”
Johnny Manziel: *Takes a gulp*
I was so confused about when the sponsor wssnt manscape
Im hella late but the ending of this video finally helped me come to terms with that interception as a hawks fan. I'm eternally grateful
And to add insult injury to the Cleveland Browns. Teddy Bridgewater was in that draft last two quarterback and all their data suggested that Bridgewater on paper was the better quarterback. But no they decide to go with Johnny Menzel because they thought he would help sell tickets.
I wonder if Brady feels like thanos when he puts all his rings on
He is THANOS. 💀
Me: I wanna watch some set the edge. Set the edge: I got you
5:11 “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up”, you must be at least 35 years old to understand that reference.
Simple just get drafted by Cleveland.
i agree with you joe
I agree with you joe
I agree with you Joe
I agree with you Joe
New Browns, forget not the old Browns are the Ravens...
Me: I want Peyton Manning
Mom: we have Peyton Manning at home
Peyton Manning at home:
Ryan Leaf
Ryan Leaf is just a mess of a human. It's also weird because he gives really funny, insightful and honest interviews, then proceeds to do something stupid to get arrested yet again. It's quite a human tragedy. Makes you appreciate the likes of Kurt Warner or Russell Wilson who were nobodies and became super bowl champs through their hard work.
@@ashleyburnier9156 could not have said it better
Set the edge: Uploads video about being a draft bust.
Me: ah so a video about the cleveland browns!
Bro they had a bodybuilder playing left tackle that dude was enormous
Tbh JaMarcus Russell was at a BAD point in his life mentally with several close family members dying and he said he let it get to him and didnt go and try to have the support system around him.
He still a bust but I like having that perspective.
Family issues has nothing to do with lying about watching a blank DVD:-)
@@catman3953 Didn't make him a liar, but it probably killed his motivation.
@@jcarson3721 What?
Me: A new video
My mom: have you done you’re chores?
Me: yep-totally
Your mom: tsk, reminds me of Jamarcus Russell
You’ve been killing it lately with your last few vids. Really good stuff!
Love your content
Who doesn't?
“Draft day , Johnny Manziel 5 years later how am I the man still” -Drake 2014
I love that song, every time I hear that line I chuckle a little bit. That line didn’t age so well 😂😂
@@GhostofMcNabb Fax, neither did the A wiggins line. At least andrew's still in the the league tho lol
Nobel Bisrat habesha
I’ll admit it... as a colts fan in the mid to late 90s I really wanted them to draft Leaf. You have to understand that he really was an amazing college player. He had a good game against Michigan and I really liked his chances in the NFL... Nobody could’ve predicted the meltdown that would then ensue. Happy the Colts landed Manning, and I’m happy Leaf has his life back together now. In the end things unfold as the universe intended.
Omg bro the end was thoughtful and well-put. Great videos, man.
Your vids are the best nice job
He did us Seattle fans dirty at the end
Do clevelanders hate Johnny football more or love LeBron James more?
Doug Robinson substitute Johnny Football with Jimmy Haslam lol. Not from Ohio though
I don't think anyone hates Johnny Football. It's just pure disappointment.
@@jeffjefferson9000 As a Tennessean whose been dealing with the Haslam presence for far too long...I feel so bad for Browns fans
Doug Robinson are you dumb??
Doug Robinson Leracist????? Who cares.
Incredibly A crystal clear in depth analysis on the bust subject Amazing Video my g
Dude, your videos just keep getting better! you da man. keep it up
The moral of the story: Don't use steroids like Mandarich, use HGH like Manning!
At least with Tony Manderich he got a second shot with the Colts and even played with Peyton Manning as a guard before a shoulder injury forced him to retire.
I actually wrote Ryan Leaf a long direct message on twitter. Talking about how amazing opportunities can quickly create negative opportunities. With money comes problems. He answered and couldn’t have been more nice and professional! Really appreciate him answering, felt like sharing! (excellent video per usual btw)
You make some of the best Football related videos on yt in my opinion 👍🏼
Lmao that empty dvd box story was hilarious.
As a chargers fan my whole life , it hurts because seeing what Peyton could have done for us, my dad still has Ryan leaf stuff from before he even played
You certainly outperform your expectations. Great video as always
you definitely deserve more recognition and subscribers bro keep up the good work
My Favorite Channel! I have watched every video!
Remember being subscribed to him when he had 10k subs. His channel literally blew up
Yo STE the self-depreceation joke at the start was kinda funny but I do wanna say speaking as just a sub you don't fall short of my expectations, you consistently make solid videos so dont be actually hard on yourself :)
Amazing video man. Great research
I wish they mentioned Johnny footballs CFL career and how he got permanently banned from the league for illegally negotiations.
Love STE
I like your videos! They show thought.
I remember Manziel’s debut. My Cincinnati Bengals shut that guy down. What a cathartic game
3:18 is when the video starts.
As a bears fan... I’ll just show myself the door
We'll drink down the pain together, man
Y'all took trubisky over Watson lol
Matthew Arnold mahomes*
@@Theonlyatoz mahomes obviously is better but he wasn't a day one starter like watson was.
To fair to the Mahomes/Watson folks, I personally think that the Bears are sooooo inherently incapable of drafting and developing QB's that Mahomes and/or Watson would have failed in Chicago as well. So I think that Mahomes, instead of showing the Bears he knows how to count with his fingers whenever he faces off against them, should be eternally grateful that the Bears didn't draft him and make him another in a loooong line of Chicago QB Draft Busts.
Great video! Loved it
Love your videos!
Here’s a fun question should a QBs like David Carr, and Tim Couch be considered busts or are they just products of really bad teams?
Bad teams, these guys were serviceable backups at best, and teams with bad culture and negative fan bases are going to have an impact on confidence and motivation
Did you really have to put that clip at 16:41 😪😅
in a video about draft busts it makes zero sense at all.
That's because we STILL can't believe they didn't run the ball.
Stop reminding us :(
Love the vid as always
the words at the end ... true and very beautiful actually
My goodness, could you imagine if Green Bay would have took Barry Sanders.
Yeah, almost any team except the Lions.
No one cares
if u were first,
no one cares if u were last,
but most importantly,
nobody asked.
Whatever gets you likes
Darren Gordon-Hill They’re not wrong though
But at the end of the day no one above the age of 9 cares that you made this
First and someone asked and I care and someone else cares
Im the one that asked
I remember watching that game when Carter went down. Talk about a terrible break, I felt for the guy.
YESSSSSSS SO EXCITED I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
12:50 who was leaf throwing to? There wasn’t a receiver within 10 yards of that pass
He was imagining being drafted by the Colts as the first overall pick.
He was real bad. And he carried Washington State on his back in the Rose bowl
Vernon Gholston broke my heart, then there's Dee Milliner , Calvin Pryor, even Mark Sanchez. Being a Jets fan has not been fun.lmao
As a fellow jets fan, I feel your pain. Let's not forget the great stephen hill and geno smith....along with devin smith
Mark Sanchez has to be the most accomplished bust of all time.
@@MHNK77 He had such a weird career. Was a top 10 draft pick, brought us to 2 championship games, his most memorable play is the butt fumble and almost lost his job to Tim Tebow.lolll. Always rooted for the dude but he was carried by the defense and always had great running backs. Definitely on the fence calling him a bust just expect more from a high draft pick.
@@AndreNoStacks They were all second rounders I believe but definitely all heart breakers. I really thought we got the steal of the draft with Geno, when he slipped I was so happy. Lmao. I totally forgot about Devin Smith that dude totally disappeared after his injury. Sad.
@@McBurgerDeluxe I wasn't being sarcastic, if that's what it looked like. I agree he is a bust, definitely. But man, 2 trips to the AFC championship is a hell of an achievement for a bust. Definitely a weird career.
OUCH!!! that last clip with no running from Seattle really hurt!!!I will live with that one for ever. I guess, as you said, failure is the foundation of greatness. Hope the Seahawks understand how thick and strong the foundation it's right now....
Been here since 5k keep up the grind
Man I'm going to be 21 by the time kto uploads again (im 12)
-I was I could be 12 again- KTO uploaded last week
*The art of being a bad franchise video pleaseeeee*
Absolute fire videos
Set The Edge, you’ve never disappointed me with your vids man. Your channel is far from a bust lol
Watching this video wearing my Brady Quinn Browns jersey
Always liked Brady, Jimmy Clausen too.
The draft bust hierarchy:
Tier 0 (God-tier bust): Ryan Leaf
Tier 1 (Talented, could've been HOFers if they commited themselves to the game): Jamarcus Russell, Johnny Manziel
Tier 2 (Failed because of two of 3 factors: injuries, poor play, and off the field issues): Lawrence Phillips, Art Schlichter
Tier 3 (Never deserved the hype): Brian Bosworth, Tony Mandarich
Tier 4 (Failed because of the injury bug): Ki-Jana Carter, Steve Emtman
Tier 5 (Simply isn't NFL material): Blair Thomas, Matt Leinart
Tier 6 (Failed because they were immediately thrusted into the spotlight): Akili Smith, Heath Shuler
Tier 7 (Average to above-average players who are always being compared to HOFers/future HOFers): Ken O'Brien, Jadeveon Clowney
Tier 8 (Players who were drafted into the wrong system/wrong team): David Carr, Tim Couch
Tier 9 (Players who didn't live up to the hype but still have long productive careers): Jim Plunkett, George Rogers
I still feel bad for David Carr I think in a good team/system with an o line he would not have been a bust. I mean, his little brother got dealt a better hand and it shows. I remember even John Madden talked about how good he was in the early years.
you’re tripping if u think manziel could of been a hofer
There should be a special category just for players unfairly destroyed by the new Browns. Couch was only the first of many.
Koala Nate no I think he COULD’VE been too if he actually could make good reads while releasing the ball on time
@@koalanate5549 Manziel could've been a HOFer, but like I said before, he never made football his priority. Had he focused on improving his game, who knows how good he can be.
As a teacher, the key thing I try to drill into kids heads is that hard work will always exceed pure talent. You look at Manziel who was gifted never worked to better himself. Fast forward to the present and you have Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, and Pat Mahomes who have all held positions as starters and could most likely be franchise qbs. They have all had bad games, but the difference is they try to be better than they were the day before.
I most appreciate the writing this channel displays :)
Yo I’m somewhat early
WolfToonsYT and first
*Daniel Jones after getting drafted by the Giants with the 6th pick
I'm from the uk I can't use hello fresh. sorry ste ❤️❤️
Obamacaretaxes k.
@@lil_nameless59 Nobody asked you to reply k.
You should be able to. They have European branches.
There is Hello Fresh in the UK but I'm pretty sure the code won't work outside of the US, anyway ;)
I like how this man talks about busts and i feel hes either a bengals or browns fan and is doing these vids to cope with the disaster of picks
It warms my Heart that Johnny Football is the thumbnail of this video, showing the true masters of draft busts the Cleveland Browns
Thanks for shaming us brownies again with the thumbnail 😭😭😭
There always a shame
Yup yall will probs always suck
the city of cleveland is cursed
the old browns won a sb 5 years after leaving for baltimore
Who the hell are the San Diego chargers
15:13 lmao the look of defeat ryan leaf has after he got roughed like 2 seconds after the pass
Manziel will always be a case study about how to destroy your career before it ever gets started.
So early that theres no views and 33 likes
For an exhaustive listing of NFL draft busts, consult the Cleveland Browns roster since 1999!
Tim Couch had his health destroyed by the lack of a decent O-line his first few years, but he's still the only QB to take the expansion Browns to the playoffs (though another injury prevented him from playing once they got there).
In 1962, the Cleveland Browns traded Bobby Mitchell (HOF) to move up to the #1 spot in the draft. They used it to draft Ernie Davis. Unfortunately, Davis got leukemia and died without taking even 1 NFL snap.