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I really hate how people keep saying Jetset isn’t cel-shaded because to most people cel-shaded is only thick black outlines. Also crazy taxi never tried to be cel shaded.
Yeah Jet Set is still cartoony and super stylish looking, it just... Y'know doesn't look like it's a dreamcast game. Which, much as I love the game's style, isn't even that good looking compared to other toony/anime styled titles on the same console whether made by others or Sega themselves. Like that era of 3d is my personal favorite but compared to like Skies of Arcadia or Power Stone, JSR ain't winning a beauty contest in my eyes lol. I don't have the eye to immediately tell what's cel shaded or not or whatever but i wouldn't argue with you if you told me other dreamcast titles also did that better.
Since ppl complaining love bringing it up in comparison, Bomb Rush Cyberfunk closely follows that older artstyle well though obviously leaning more towards JSRF. But not once did I think while playing bombrush "JSR3 needs to look like this too". I'm glad they're just evolving while not doing a super drastic hyper realistic shift. As for the actual character redesigns, I dig everyone shown so far. Which says a lot considering I'm very VERY mixed on JSRF's redesigns and overall aesthetic compared to original game. This one is looking to keep more in line with the first game's vibe of being a funky punk skating through your hood rather than the grungy and... Well futuristic leaning style of future. Just a classic, chill blue sky in an urban playground.
Edit: also yeah idk why tf ppl added Craxy Taxi to the conversation, that series was very clearly not going for the same style as jsr nor were the actual in game graphics aiming for cartoony beyond actual character designs being goofy. Like it CAN work AMAZINGLY if it did, i wouldnt be mad, but that was never that series identity prior.
They think cell shading is just like a Fortnite anime skin😭
It’s so clearly cell shaded, looks a lot like the new Zelda titles
I mean DJ professor K definitely looks like he’s out of breath of the wild
@@waitisthatcobaltthat’s not the cel-shading we’re talking about. botw uses a different type of cel-shading. professor k does not look like he’s from botw.
The way i see it is that this is a very natural evolution of the "Comic Book" Artstyle the first game has. Back then a comic looking game or film had these thick outlines, like the Ultimate spider-man Game. Now in 2023 we got stuff like Into and Beyond the Spider verse where the style has evolved and is now using image distortion for fake depth of field and dots and lines for the shading, just like the new Jet Set Radio is using. At the end i dont care if some dont like it, i love it and i cant wait
If they make the game look like Spiderverse that would be a brilliant way to evolve the way JSR looks while still keeping that creative edge.
Funny how a beloved series can be missing for nearly 20 years, only to be revived and complained about on a (less than) 10 second surface level observation…
I don't mind the new look for the new Jet Set Radio, I actually like that they're experimenting with it. Such a long time for a AAA company to do that yknow?
I'd argue that the aesthetic for JSR3 isn't really meant to be Y2K, but Frutiger Aero/Metro (2000s-2010s aesthetic, commonly found in stuff like Windows 7) since that's the successor to Y2K as an aesthetic-based cultural phenomenon. With the inclusion of parkour to the JSR moveset, they could be theming the game's environment and vibes around the 2000s & 2010s.
Something I think would be really cool is if they crossover JSR and BRC. That would make my day.
I want Cyber Milk's music
I doubt it'll ever happen legitimately for several reasons.
But in a sense, it already happened. With the soundtrack.
The main composer for JSR, Hideki Naganuma, agreed to also compose for BRC, which to me sounds a bit like the two series having a common endpoint.
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I second this! 🎶
I honestly think that the new JSR's direction is actually perfect from the standpoint of where the teams heart lies. The first two games were all about experimentation and expression, so having a sequel that continues to do that shows that the soul that made the first two games so special is still there.
Seeing people using Bomb Rush as a weapon to vandalize the new Jet Set is the same to me as people using Spark the Electric Jester 3 as a weapon against Sonic Frontiers, using a game created inspired by the love the people have on the original IP & games as the opposite, as an weapon, an example of a "superior" version of the OG franchise, is something that must not be cool for those indie devs that created the game as a love latter to the original series
Absolutely, it happens in too many places and is just horrible.
BRC isnt a love letter, please stop pushing that lie. Look at the interviews they did before the game came out, they talk about their other inspirations.
@@mdxclark9988 Being a love letter to more than 1 thing doesn't mean it isn't still a love letter to JSR.
Video of the interview for context
@@mdxclark9988 First, no it is not.
Second you didn't post a link.
Honestly, the thing I’m mainly excited about with the new JSR is the soundtrack. Like I have never had more fun listening to a video game ost than I have with the first two games.
They gotta have hideki naganuma back, otherwise i'll riot
It'll have to be just as good or better than bomb rush cyberfunk. Cause man that game is an amazing successor
Hes always making music.
@@teneesh3376That game just uses mostly licensed music though, so it becomes less impressive as a soundtrack when you know that most of the songs weren't originally composed for the game. It did introduce me to a few artists I listen to all the time now, so there's still some merit to it.
@@UltimateTS64 but the controls and camera are way better. Playing both Jet Set Radios, you really feel how sloppy it feels when you continuously miss rails. Or the sloppy camera controls also being mapped to the spray button. Which I kinda understand for the 1st. Though the spray button could have been bound to another button.
But future having an entire stick and more buttons to work with, I can't excuse the horrible camera controls
A video interview with the developers of the new JSR was shown on the official Sega channel (Japan), and there was an announcement that the development phase is still in less than prototype progress and that they are currently looking for volunteer developers from around the world. So anyone complaining about the art style at this point can rest assured that their fears are completely unfounded.
I don’t get any complaint about Crazy Taxi yet. Crazy Taxi was never cartoony aside from the 2D art of characters having an anime look. We haven’t even seen a up close look of any characters yet so I think Crazy Taxi looks pretty good so far.
The actual gameplay of Crazy Taxi was cartoony AF though, so I think it's fitting. Try driving that way with Uber or Lyft and see how many legal troubles you'll run into
Hyped beyond comprehension for the new Jet Set Radio, can't wait to see a proper trailer.
Future is tied for my absolute favourite game of all time, it's so iconic.
To be honest, all fans know that cell shading was the graphic identity of the saga, but these new kind of grapichs, even that they're WIP, look so fucking clean, so fresh and adding that the original creators are working again on it, it creates a huge amount of hype to play this new game of JSR. The only thing that i kinda dislike is Beat's jacket, but maybe it's that, a fresher image to my beloved graffiti punk.
The new jet set radio reminds me of a modern Gorillaz style
Honestly i do still prefer the older artstyle as it feels more inspired and looks better imo, however style isnt the only reason why i play jsr, the new features like the parkour look really good, and are an excellent evolution of the gameplay from the previous two games
No matter the visual aspect / Artstyle, I hope what won't go done the drain is the immaculate vibe inspired by HipHop and the Designer Republic Y2K design. Music is at the core of the experience, and currently there is a whole wave of artists reviving breakbeat, this is not to be missed. Hope they will be true to the initial spirit.
JSR also has some comic dots (not sure what they're called) in the background.
Also every game is still seemingly in early especially if a sign in the Crazy Taxi part simply say undecided.
I still wish they kept the y2k comic book aeshtetic. The reboot looks like it's trying to look like every other videogame on the market.
Two franchises I lowkey wish Sega would at least play around with: Altared Beast & Kid Chameleon.
The guts graffiti mod for JSR really caught me off guard 😂😂😂
I like that the new JSR3 looks new and different, honestly I think JSRF perfected the Y2K Neo-futurism asthetic and if they went for minimilism instead of detailed it would clash with Bomb Rush Cyberfunk. I'm so happy all the signs were correct, we finally got a new Jet Set Radio! Funky Uncle must be thrilled!
I like your opinion
all the people who don't like the new look are just Y2K hipsters who don't know how to move on from the past. the art style for the new jsr is literally the perfect evolution of the old look. The backgrounds could use some work, however the character models are reallly good.
I feel like they just kept the cell shading but just upscaled the models drastically. Plus, I love the effects that were on beat's skates when he jumped off the telephone line, looked like comic effects and added a cool touch to his skating. The civilians do however look like generic anime characters which I don't really like. Also, I love Professor K's hairstyle in this game. It went from crazy spiky poking out dreads, to white pointy hair, to regular but long dreads. Love his constant hair changes.
Oh btw i forgot to add this but HIDEKI NAGANUMA BETTER BE ON THE MUSIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM
Jet set Radio future was a blast. ^^
I just hope the new Jet Set Radio revitalizes the style of music it uses because oh my god after listening to the original, Future and even Bomb Rush's soundtracks. It felt like i was ascending to heaven.
Golden Axe looks amazing. If it's proper rpg now instead of stage based arcade, I'm down
I’m open to seeing what they do, but I’m not convinced as of now. To echo what you said, I do believe it’s leaving behind some core values of its identity.
But like I say, Im interested in seeing if things do change or perhaps new footage will change my mind.
I hope NiGHTS will get the same traitment !
generally looking forward to the game but i cant help but think the visuals feel a little cheap, hopefully they'll be improved once the games actually finished
It did say that it’s early footage at the bottom
I really like the new style, I think it's a good upgrade. It IS cellshaded, and the more I look at it, the more I can't wait to see more in this style.
I genuinely don't mind JSR taking on a different visual style, I am just so happy to see the game get some much needed love after so long. And after the great time Bomb Rush Cyberfunk was for getting people interested in the type of game it is, I think the announcement came at a really good time as well.
I love that dreamcast look. Its ardcade like, but the new jet set looks cool to.
I agree with everything you said, but am kind of surprised you didn't mention how so many people loved Jet Set Radio: Future, a remake of the OG game with it's own unique traits, also happened.
I think it’s looks beautiful. It’s obviously cell shaded, just cell shaded with more Polly counts because it’s being made on more powerful machines. It will easily stand the test of time like the other games visually. And with modern developments, mechanically it will almost certainly play far smoother than the others. I’m beyond excited to get my hands on this game, and hopefully play it well past its expiration date like the others.
Jet Set Radio being represented with a skateboard instead of inline skates might be a little foreshadowing for adding skateboards to JSR3, like BRC
JET SET RADIO MY FAVORITE GAME EVER can’t wait to see how this turns out ! Also I hope they make lit soundtracks as the first one “ ahhhh memories
Just happy to see they bring back jet set radio that game was head of time, from music to fun game play there's unique, very fun the type game that doesn't exist nowadays
I'm Soo fucking excited for jet set I have not stopped talking about this game. Never
Same I always been hoping they make another one we never gave up hope
@@who1334 I have literally Not stop playing. Still have my og Xbox with the Sega GT /JSRF
jet set looks good, but crazy taxi looks like your typical triple A game + a mix of yakuza which would ruin its identity.
We're in for a Sega Renaissance!
HOW did I not know this was revealed two weeks ago
i hope cibo matto makes a song for the game.
its cel shaded, but the models style and proportions dont have that angular, more cartoony look, which is what i think people are trying to articulate about . The models don't look bad but they do come off as a bit generic, they seem to be pushing for more realistic models as a choice, and it probably wont be changing in development. They just lack that outright boldness of how they used to look.
the sheen on the dj? you mean the dj standing in a dark room infront of the brightest light source?
I hope this means that many other Sega properties get revivals like Kid Chameleon, Lunar, old school Phantasy Star, Shining Force, Toe Jam and Earl, etc.
I actually like the new look, gives more life to the city rather just seeing it as just a bright obstacle course. Cel-shading just wouldn't capture that Japanese metropolitan look I seen many times in Japan.
Beats OG fits drip is unmatched
If you want something that looks like, but plays way better than old Jetset. We already have bomb rush cyberfunk.
But that didn’t even get so much is a mention at the game awards. Real sus, considering how jets that was announced there.
Bro no World of Goo 2 mention in the intro? Best announcement of the show
The only nitpick on art style overall is just missing stylized proportions. Since you noticed the exaggeration with large skates and headphones, even anatomy portions of characters included that worked with limitations. But the new entry’s style is welcoming and what I nitpicked is only just a design concern that can be glazed over, since the point of the game’s were made in their time. But it still ties in with the cel shading and its aesthetic in a more evolved way, that still has this fun, fresh look to it with differences of its style, considering its been two full decades a new entry has been released. So I say it’s neat they’re experimenting, and hoping the gameplay and it’s core mechanics are still retained once we get more trailer reveals. (and it would be nice for a possibility for rereleases of the two previous games come to light if the game is a hit)
I like it, reminds me of Gorillaz
The new JSR looks dope
I’m excited for these sega remakes… I hope Capcom does something similar with their older IP’s… Would love remakes of Final Fight and Mega Man Legends
My heart exploded with excitement tears and anticipation when I saw the new JSR pop up during SEGA's announcement and the last thing that was never on my mind was; "Oh wow this style sucks." I really dislike knowing there are upset fans out there not appreciating that SEGA is FINALLY giving us our childhood back and instead are complaining about the changed visuals. Like you mentioned, the ORIGINAL CREATORS ARE BACK and that should be what people focus on, we're getting a game from the creators themselves and they know just how much we loved the first installments, give the updated style a chance guys, the game isn't even out of early development yet!
i think what might scare me more, is that they MIGHT not get hideki naganuma back, for union reasons. i don't know too much about what is going on, and im probibally waaaaay off, but i remember him tweeting about something along those lines. if he does get to produce music for it, that would be so great
My only slight nitpick. Is that im not the biggest fan of Beats new outfit. Like the sweeter and shades are pretty good but. I don't know the skates, and headphones are kinda basic. Like i kinda wish that they took more inspiration from jet set radio futures design. By having the headphones with those pointy tips at the end, and more stylized skates.
And other small things i miss, is that cool little green symbol on his shirt, or giving him his gloves back. But I might warm up the design once I start playing the game!
But maan its so good to see jet set radio back! I've never expected to see one of my favorite sega games to make its grand return like this!
Bomb Rush Cyberfunk has some competition
Jet Set Radio is definitely still Cel-Shaded. Graphics are literally so good now that you don’t see the polygons on Cel-Shading anymore. It looks like a comic but it’s smooth.
I hope these games capture the feel of arcade games again that's something sega games always felt like to me
Everywhere I look...I see him "Guts".
Honestly, I think the art style in Jet Set Radio looks pretty good imo, the only thing that's bothering me are the trees that doesn't look very cel shaded or stylized, I hope they change in the final build.
it’s not 2001 anymore 😂😂😂😂 People thought the new Jet Set is gonna look like Bomb Rush or JSRF lmfao. Super trippy trippy cuz literally just a couple days before SEGA showed this Power Surge trailer thing, I was thinking exactly of how a modern day Jet Set game would look with the power of hardware today. The reason the original two games look that way is due to technological limitations (oh I just got to that part in the video) but I don’t think I gotta say that. New game looks really good, new Professor K looks super cool too! The art style literally looks like the original Jet Set Radio, but redone with modern fidelity. I love how it looks, can’t wait.
SEGA needs to put Hyenas into production
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wait ppl didn't like the new design? my first reaction was loving it lmao Like, i understand with stuff like sor3-4 where the change was drastic, but jsr 3 looks basically what yo be expected from a modern entry in the series. I personally always seen sunset overdrive as what jsr would eventually do with its artstyle, use grafity and y2k as flair, and i love that game art. As a fan of the other franchises, yeah crazy taxi looks just about right and shinobi looks like a dream! the only game im skeptical is golden axe to be honest, and i don't even know how to modernize that series (maybe something like brutal legends... trully don't know)
Im sooooooo excited. I think this is the golden ticket for Sega to claw back their reputation and prestige in the modern era. The upcoming jet set radio is the dream come true of my 7 year old self who couldn’t stop crying when he beat jsrf and realized there was no more new parts to play. From Bomb rush, which I hope becomes a series, to this new jsr, my inner child is thriving
I had these same thoughts, I think PCGamesN made an article that eluded to these trailers about how "art-styles are dead and hyper-realism bad". Similar to all these detractors completely ignore the game is clearly still cel-shaded just because it doesn't look like an N64 game anymore.
Please Sega give Hideki Naganuma a chance again (also 0:15 McPig face reveal jumpscare)
The only thing I afraid of new JSR is the world size and traversal design, especially after seen Hover and Sunset Overdrive world. It's okay if it won't continue the futuristic stylized world but just make the size and traversal good enough.
2020s vibes
They need to add all xgames sports…bikes and boards included I love that we can use our hands in jet set now.
Imma need a new ssx game now and my nostalgic sports games hype will be through the roof
So much of jet sets radio’s theme and aesthetic is the time period it released in, including its limited hardware. I do think there is a bit of an overreaction though, it’s still cell shaded and it still looks really cool. I just prefer the og JSR games though.
It’s important to look back on JSR and JSRF. They were sleeper hits. The gameplay was just OKAY. The style. Top notch. The sound track. Outta this world. Atmosphere was everything. If this game has a thumping ass sound track, captures a piece of counter culture, and handles like 50% as good as any other game, I will be plenty satisfied.
if you like jet set radio there a anime name air gear and it is good
its the perfect evolution of the original Dreamcast visuals, it looks great.
Wait we are getting a new jet set radio game ok I must be dead or something
I can already see the comments agreeing with you, knowing they were talking shit about it 😶
Honestly at this point it’s been 21 years I’ll take what I can get lmao
I like the new style and I kind of think I know why they made it different and that’s to appeal more to the Japanese crowd since Jet set actually did better outside in the west so now they want a style that’s in the middle and can appeal to both markets
yeah idk bout this bru 😭
Really wanna play alan wake 2, but not if it's digital only. If it gets a physical copy I'll play it
As a sega fan, I understand that having to settls for "Ok" is basically the modus operandi of being one, but it's also "Ok" to be unsatisfied with the new art direction. I don't think "shouldn't look uglier than the one from 20 years ago" is a big ask.
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i think the issue to me is that the original jet set radio's design philosophy exudes a punk rock energy that's missing here. not in the musical sense but in that ryuta ueda's character designs are kinda funky & ugly, in a charming way. it's sort of why hi-fi rush (a game channeling games like JSR) is a miss for me - the characters are too clean-looking. i would have been fine with a new stylistic approach for the new game if it matched the punk feel of the original. go balls to the wall, totally redesign the characters, make them funky-looking in their own way. instead they just took the original designs, stretched them out, and buffed off all the charm. it feels like the worst kind of compromise. and i get that this is the "safest" route for marketability, but sega sacrificing the game's punk sensibilities so it can make the line go up isn't something i'm a fan of.
SEGA made like, 6 or 7 design concepts for this game, they've been leaked like a year ago, this is anything but shoddily designed.
The new JSR seems like a reasonable evolution of the original art-style. I think they can (and likely will) add some more elements and filters to give it some edge before all is said and done, but I like the higher fidelity. Besides, it points towards potentially bringing something fresher to the table in the wake of BRC. If JSR wasn't changing the art style, I'd be less excited about it at this point because BRC already provided what I wanted from a JSR throwback sequel. Why have two of the same game?
Jetset 3 is gonna get me back into gaming! The new crazy taxi got me sold
The new JSR looks like the game called Killer is dead's graphics, it's cool, but again wait and see... About JSR on dreamcast, tbh wasn't only about cellshading...
It still’s got the cel, but I like the thick lines more than the slicks.
Games should be allowed to evolve, not just in gameplay, but art as well.
I think this new JSR is kinda missing the mark on art style, though, because the environments and characters had more of a street art feel to them; taking a picture, you felt like you'd actually see someone painting that on a wall somewhere. . . But also, this is just a 10 second series of clips of yet-to-be-finalized footage.
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Holy shit!!! the leaker was real!!!
Honestly the jsr reboot reminds me of street fighter 6
I remember like 7-8 months ago, i saw a leak for the new JSR. But seeing the trailer just didn't do anything for me. I feel like the art style is very bland? Like, i dont care for the cel shading, it's just that the artstyle feels generic/ anime-ish/ slightly realistic and has no style to it. We want to be able to grind upside down and do crazy tricks off skyscrapers. Not be held to any type of realism!
But hopefully, when we see more of the game, it will be able to suprice me :)
which consoles do you think JSR will be available in?
Not revealed but I'd presume PS5, Xbox, PC and probably Switch 2.
I would have preferred if the new JSR looked like the old one, just with better pokygons and no pixelation (the eyes in even Future looked pretty bad if the camera got up close) the Crazy Taxi argument is stupid though, that wasn't even cel shaded, that was literally just the graphics looking so old that they still looked a little cartoony.
the only goal i care about is them bringing back Birthday Cake
Yeah and broad feedback like this actually impacts art teams too, cos it makes their managers jumpy and it makes hard working people redo good things just because the most vocal audience now operates on the level of a toddler who refuses to eat anything but chicken nuggies. Like please, try something else you might like. In terms of THIS game, yes. It is still cell shaded. A modern version of that.
One thing i hated about BRCF was the translation to other languages. They just smashed the texts into google translator and done! A LOT of wrong words and literal translations of the slangs that doesn't make any sense in my language. Completely ruined the experience.
I didn't finished the game in English, I just returned it.