What does Duncan Garner think about Māori Language Week?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
  • I want to talk about Māori Language Week and of course te reo Māori as a language.
    My view won’t be popular. A whole pile of New Zealanders will hate on me for this and no doubt crash my social media accounts with vile and racist abuse but let's just say that surely says more about them than me.
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  • @Soulwrite7
    @Soulwrite7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The issue is that people perceive Maori tribes (as political entities) and people, as nursing old wounds for political goals, and as having rights and privileges, that make the country into a two-tiered system.
    The language is being implemented as a top-down political agenda, where taxpayers wallets and vital early childhood education is being sacrificed to revive a dead language.
    Who speaks frankish, norman, or saxon. Languages evolve and develop often replaced, though not in whole by the language of the conquer. The conquer enforces language top-down, changes made to it by the the inhabitants bottom-up.
    Here is my stance, not on anything but the language issue. Get it out of the public school system, bring it into the military.
    The reason is that early childhood education should be focused on practical skills, almost exclusively maths and english. The maori language can be more useful in the military as it obfuscates an additional layer during war and war-games (often with english speaking allies).
    By having a portion of the population intimately familiar with the language, and with an eye for efficiency you have a good playground for maori-english integration.
    Naturally tourist locations, marae, and tertiary education can still offer the language, at the students expense, and parents can teach their children if they desire. But my suggestion is 100% pragmatic, and won't cause as much discord.
    In 1000 years english as it is today won't exist in its current form, nor will any language that exists today. Likely fewer that 5 of the languages today will remain in some form, utterly unrecognizable.
    Principles are the hill conservatives should die upon such as liberty, not for something as ephemeral and language.
    I am not vile, racist, nor feel anything towards you save fleeting, passing interest in the topic you presented. This comment designed to highlight the opposing side I have heard in a coherent manner, and present my own neutral opinion no one else shares.
    Thank you for reading.
    TL:DR : Yeah, na.

    • @ChickenLordThe
      @ChickenLordThe ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Look bro there is a time and a place for this discussion. Rather than always being against the Māori why don’t you try and be understanding of it like you say you want to reduce discord but did you ever stop to think that maybe discord is necessary to achieve goals such as the revival of a culture so that that culture and its people may thrive rather than being erased because that’s gonna be the ultimate effect of these policies that the Māori language will get fucked over basically when it could be encouraged by a people who don’t fear learning a language which is good for the whole of society and it’s overall health

    • @Soulwrite7
      @Soulwrite7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ChickenLordThe Your final assertion is groundless and baseless. I am trying to push for unity and progress, where you are standing for discord?
      I envision a unified New Zealand with a shared culture, values, and principles within 100 years, and trying to bring that about.
      I fear that instead the nation will be fractured into smaller states governed by a tribal group , not elected by the people, but by people with passing racial blood profiles. With a weak federal government unable to prevent tribal conflicts along the state lines. A revival of the culture of tribal grievance and revenge.
      There is no going back. There never was a 'noble savage'.
      I would make the same arguments if native Britains wanted to revive ancient druid tribal orders, remove all saxon, viking, french, and german influences on english and revert and promote anglo-ish.
      I understand wanting to romanticise pre-agricultural people and practices for the simplicity. But in reality such times were horrific, with no hope of progress, because the cultures were backwards and barely suitable. It is good that the Romans conquered Britain, and likewise that Britain gained sovereignty over New Zealand.
      We need to look to the future, 100, 1000 years from now. Need to look to unity not separation. That is what I propose.
      TL:DR : Progress > Stagnation.

    • @ChickenLordThe
      @ChickenLordThe ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Soulwrite7 I never said there was such thing as a “noble savage” lol because are people. The Romans were savages to me because they killed people who they didn’t like and forced them into slavery. That is, in my humble opinion, barbaric. We don’t need a united nation state to be happy. We just need a situation where everyone has their needs met be that with a unified state or without one. I don’t see a reason to suggest that we should progress blindingly towards a future which we define by its ability to strip indigenous people of their heritage and produce some monotonous blob in its stead that we refer to as progress but in actually is the desire to destroy everything we refuse to understand. There is nothing wrong with there being different cultures in a society I don’t see why that’s an issue except for the fear that difference is bad. Why that should be a thing I don’t understand because I would argue we are unified in our differences sometimes. I think that what you are arguing for is the erasure of culture under this notion that Pakeha people are somehow superior morally which we’re not. We’re just people and it’s okay to admit that we as a people are continuing to make mistakes that disadvantage Māori people

    • @ChickenLordThe
      @ChickenLordThe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Soulwrite7 plus I gotta be honest I think it would be pretty cool to revive those ancient cultures much better imo then living with the culture of domination and control that we live in now

    • @ChickenLordThe
      @ChickenLordThe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Soulwrite7 are you autistic by any chance? (I mean that as a genuine question not as an insult as I myself am autistic)

  • @CrumpetFn69
    @CrumpetFn69 ปีที่แล้ว

    You pay for it then

    • @brendonmcmahon3294
      @brendonmcmahon3294 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah uou pay for it you want segregation you want division you want want want u ❤respect is not a given its earnt Kia kaha all one human family kapei kakaface

    • @antonoka
      @antonoka ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So what do you mean by paying for it? Do you think it cost to learn the language? Our language is free to learn and welcome anybody who are willing to learn by free choice. And if you don't agree with this then research.

    • @Staxsgurl
      @Staxsgurl 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pay for what exactly?