A Guide to Beethoven's 'Eroica' Symphony

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    0:00 - History and Background
    03:53 - Movement 1
    10:13 - Movement 2
    13:40 - Movement 3
    14:28 - Movement 4
    18:25 - Recommended Recordings

ความคิดเห็น • 226

  • @unkleRucker21
    @unkleRucker21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Every second of this symphony is absolutely life changing.

    • @Ludwig55555
      @Ludwig55555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's no doubt this is the greatest Symphony of all time

    • @andreavoigtlander1087
      @andreavoigtlander1087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no youre very wrong

    • @Fam2015.
      @Fam2015. ปีที่แล้ว

      No this is a good symphony! One of my favs everyone has opinions!

    • @ultimateconstruction
      @ultimateconstruction 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@andreavoigtlander1087He is not wrong, he is stating facts.

    • @elaineblackhurst1509
      @elaineblackhurst1509 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠@@Ludwig55555
      No such thing exists, just like there’s no greatest book, painting, invention, nor any other thing in the sphere of human achievement.
      The ‘Eroica’ is *one of* the greatest symphonies ever written.

  • @PADARM
    @PADARM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The Funeral March perfectly captures the contradictory emotions we feel in grief. Anger, Disbelief, Despair, and Acceptance. Beethoven is a genius because he understands Human emotions perfectly and transforms them into music.

  • @MusicalRocky
    @MusicalRocky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Truly one of the greatest pieces, not just at its time, but of all time.

    • @Boltogenta
      @Boltogenta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am a Bruckner listener and some parts remind me strongly to this autor. For instance, the end of the second movement is quite similar in concept to the end of the first movement in Bruckner's 8th Symphony.

    • @Quim141
      @Quim141 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Boltogenta Beethoven comes first.

  • @mr-wx3lv
    @mr-wx3lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's a colossal and brave achievement of Beethoven to write this symphony. To think the unsuspecting public were still stuck in Haydn and Mozart mode.
    The musical world needed Beethoven to break the mould. And he did it with a bang!

  • @hertzair1186
    @hertzair1186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I recommend watching the movie “Beethoven’s Eroica” ...it re enacts the first controversial performance of the 3rd Symphony...excellent movie and its free here on TH-cam

    • @walterm.robertsiiiphd2157
      @walterm.robertsiiiphd2157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes. A marvelous movie. I thought it excellent too!

    • @hairuo
      @hairuo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/UtA7m3viB70/w-d-xo.html

  • @JRCSalter
    @JRCSalter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Eroica is one of my favourite symphonies ever, second only to the Choral.

    • @Ludwig55555
      @Ludwig55555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no doubt this is the greatest Symphony of all time

    • @Noctifern
      @Noctifern ปีที่แล้ว

      his 9th is amazing but overall the eroica is better.

  • @Lordran__
    @Lordran__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Beethoven is the Greatest Composer to ever grace Earth. Long Live!

  • @wingonmichael
    @wingonmichael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Wow! For so long I thought you have forgotten the Beethoven symphonies series. Can’t wait to watch.

    • @shakamarko7260
      @shakamarko7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I share the same excitement!

    • @Panteni87
      @Panteni87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can't wait for the 6th symphony... in my opinion the most "filmic" one. Just close your eyes and ride through the hills of italy

    • @shakamarko7260
      @shakamarko7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Panteni87 He already covered it

  • @pererau
    @pererau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I consider myself more of an aficionado of classical music than most people I know, but still, you manage to make me feel like a musical chimpanzee. When I listen to this symphony, all I know is I can whistle along to it and, "oooh, I like that part." By the time I'm done watching your symphony guides, I feel like after I watch a really great foreign film. That is, I understand that I've just witnessed greatness, but I was so busy trying to stay afloat with the language that I don't remember any of it.

    • @JVolpe-qg4en
      @JVolpe-qg4en 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to watch this and listen to the first movement plenty of times, just to get the subjects of the exposition

    • @pianoboylaker6560
      @pianoboylaker6560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oooh, I like that part? Are you serious? If this whole symphony doesn't blow your mind and fill you with awe, then you are tone deaf, my friend. If it doesn't move you to near tears then I suggest you stick to the mediocre classics like Johann Strauss and his Blue Danube. You mustn't overtax yourself too much.

    • @dreamer_4937
      @dreamer_4937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pianoboylaker6560 oh give it a break. It’s hardly Bruckner 8.

    • @CougheePls
      @CougheePls ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pianoboylaker6560 tone deaf? Sticking to mediocres like Blue Danube? Can you be any more snobbish? You're an obvious gatekeeper and I hope you do realise that novices like me do exist. These videos teach about classical music and its ingenuities to people new to it, whereas you're the opposite.

  • @ismaelnehme379
    @ismaelnehme379 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The second movement might be the most bone-chilling piece of music ever written. Seventeen minutes of pure, unadulterated genius.

  • @thepolyglotfarmer6085
    @thepolyglotfarmer6085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've been listening to this symphony every day for 6 months and it brings continuous confidence that I can overcome struggle and march triumphant through grief.

    • @Ludwig55555
      @Ludwig55555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's no doubt this is the greatest Symphony of all time

  • @pabloayalarivas3719
    @pabloayalarivas3719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    always felt as if Beethoven predicted the entire Napoleonic war plot with this symphony
    Thanks!

  • @corpulent_scorpion
    @corpulent_scorpion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm playing this with my orchestra now, thank you for helping me in my quest to fully understand this epic piece of music. Great interpretation.

  • @polenc7167
    @polenc7167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I know this may sound overly technical but B. forshadows a trick that became de rigeure in the Romantic era: the increasing use of the German sixth to go to remote tonal areas. The German sixth was known and used even in the Renaissance era but was very sparingly used at the time.
    But I love the double fugue. And thank you for pointing out the humor which to my mind is an extremely important part of Beethoven's uniqueness as an artist. B. in his younger years was known for his sense of humor and as a raconteur.

  • @eriktempelman2097
    @eriktempelman2097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fun fact: Mauro Giuliani wrote a guitar sonata titled "Gran Sonata Eroica" and it is clear he got his inspiration from Beethoven's 3rd symphony. In classical guitar circles, this sonata is boss.

  • @EverettJohnson-gu3tu
    @EverettJohnson-gu3tu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My absolute favorite Beethoven symphony. The second mvt (when listening intently, to Mariss Jansons conducted version), brings me to the verge of tears. Raw emotion, like a genie in a bottle for those who dare embrace it.

  • @corinnechicheportiche8072
    @corinnechicheportiche8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just wanted to add !! The 4th movement theme was first used (or created) in the finale of the only ballet Beethoven composed in 1801 (mmmh 99% sure) then he RE-used it in his Eroica variations (ring a bell), for piano solo (i recommand 156521%, they are so funny to listen and also to play) ; and finally RE-RE-used it as the 4th mov of Eroica symphony. Incredible how the man could reinvent himself just with one little simple tune. I love the dude omg
    Happy birthday Ludwig !!

  • @ingorichter649
    @ingorichter649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    From the first listening in school up to now: This is one of my most beloved rock albums ever!

  • @Dubickimus
    @Dubickimus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Beethoven went super-saiyan to write this.

    • @unkleRucker21
      @unkleRucker21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe he was the true legendary super saiyan lol

  • @ryanpmcguire
    @ryanpmcguire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When I saw the video title I was like “he better have used a good recording”. I was very pleased with your choice.

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My favourite is Herbert Von Karajan's 60's recording for the 3rd. He gives the music area to breathe, while caressing subtlety and invigorating power are all used in the right places.
      There are many incredible recordings, mind you. Explore them all and find the one that makes the music feel as if it's coming from within you. That you are the source and it responds to your emotions, while also feeling utterly helpless to the journey it is taking you on. That probably sounds strange, but it's my test.

    • @furtvvanglerr8296
      @furtvvanglerr8296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bernstein and Furtwängler did it best

    • @alejandrosoza8006
      @alejandrosoza8006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      h i like Toscanini too

    • @GustavMartling
      @GustavMartling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thijsmonden71 John Eliot Gardiner

    • @elliotdavies3555
      @elliotdavies3555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which one did he use though?!

  • @Ivan_1791
    @Ivan_1791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    For me this symphony is a miracle.

  • @huntonpeck
    @huntonpeck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's videos like this that remind me of why I fell in love with classical music as a kid, and with the music of Beethoven in particular. I'm looking forward to celebrating Herr Beethoven's 250th birthday this year.

  • @Mandibil
    @Mandibil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beethoven is a towering figure in the history of art ... the incarnation of timeless

    • @elaineblackhurst1509
      @elaineblackhurst1509 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just like every other great composer, artist, writer, et al.

  • @vicchung
    @vicchung 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Amazing work again, Inside the Score!

  • @SonataSecrets
    @SonataSecrets 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great commentary! "Beethoven finally attained the goal of replacing the minuet with something on a scale worthy of a great symphony" - so true! And that odd middle movement in the Moonlight sonata is like the state just before that, when it's something in between a minuet and a scherzo.

  • @tomwheeler1082
    @tomwheeler1082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! Just amazing. TH-cam needs more of these! Thanks to you for making these!

  • @05nakhwalmain
    @05nakhwalmain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is an awesome guide! Thanks for the epic vid

  • @michaeleaster1815
    @michaeleaster1815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this kind of analysis ... thank you so much!

  • @wertherland
    @wertherland 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So so beautifully made! can watch it so many times!

  • @NN-df7hl
    @NN-df7hl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That E Minor New Theme in the Development then E Flat Minor -- home key -- in Coda of the 1st mvt: has a ghostly, bittersweet quality. It's like knowledge that comes later in mid-life and you wish you'd known it earlier, oh, the torments and tumult it could've saved you...and yet it's knowledge nonetheless and achieves its apogee at the end of life, so to speak. Had that epiphany today, listening to Karajan's 77 version.I know my view is totally subjective, but I FEEL it and even these words are only a clumsy approximation.

  • @clavichord
    @clavichord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video which makes us look afresh at this very famous and influential opus by Beethoven. THE first Romantic symphony.

  • @richardt.rogers2730
    @richardt.rogers2730 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Attending my first performance of this this week! Thanks for the great resource as I prepare

  • @shakamarko7260
    @shakamarko7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much Oscar for this video! Great stuff as usual**

  • @raponte303
    @raponte303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    awesome video! i'd love to see one like this on a Bruckner symphony!

  • @ES-ge7bb
    @ES-ge7bb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a intoxicating work. I'm exhausted (in a very good way) at the end of this most incredible work! Wow!

  • @velasusan
    @velasusan ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing guide, thank you!

  • @Enzomacarrao
    @Enzomacarrao 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Excellent video!

  • @ThomasvanDun
    @ThomasvanDun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was kind of hoping to hear you talk about how all movements are connected and how the form of the entire work is so strong as you mention in the beginning.

  • @bora_compor1
    @bora_compor1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect explanation!!!! Congratulations!!!!

  • @ryzesonmaravich4945
    @ryzesonmaravich4945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video for somebody (like me) who his interested in, but doesn’t know the first thing about, classical music. Awesome video, thank you!

  • @janaondegeng
    @janaondegeng 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really intersting lesson on my favorite classical piece of music

  • @Ludwig55555
    @Ludwig55555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's no doubt this is the greatest Symphony of all time.

  • @alphamale3141
    @alphamale3141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What fun. So informative. Thank you.

  • @AndrewMarloweTV
    @AndrewMarloweTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the greatest symphonies by Beethoven, so much tension in the symphony . There was a scene from Beethoven lives upstairs movie that played some of this symphony and really summed up the mind of Beethoven

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I could see that. But that argument could be made of the Fifth as well, no?

    • @thespanishinquisiton8306
      @thespanishinquisiton8306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidbudo5551 And the ninth

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thespanishinquisiton8306, quite right.

  • @yannaischrire7327
    @yannaischrire7327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    My favorite symphony! Can you analyze Liszt’s transcriptions of the symphonies please? (Things like the use of the piano as an orchestra).

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would love this!! Great recommendation.

    • @itamarabramson5603
      @itamarabramson5603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Some of my favorite music out there

  • @alexsalazar-uy9tu
    @alexsalazar-uy9tu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Magnificent!

  • @tf320
    @tf320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible explanation man

  • @LegoDonut18
    @LegoDonut18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:07
    Ferdinand Ries (pupil and secretary of Beethoven)
    "During the first rehearsal of the Eroica Symphony, Ries during the performance mistakenly believed that the horn player had come in too early and said so aloud, infuriating Beethoven"

  • @Noctifern
    @Noctifern ปีที่แล้ว

    my favorite piece if music ever written. amazing. gardiners recording is my favorite

  • @sahandelhami2181
    @sahandelhami2181 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you continue this

  • @tamed4171
    @tamed4171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes sense it took so long, compared to his 1st and 2nd this one is monstrous

  • @dzatiashvili
    @dzatiashvili 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is just a beautiful legendб that Beethoven tore up the title page after Bonaparte proclaimed himself emperor

    • @elizabethdevoto7566
      @elizabethdevoto7566 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is actually historical proof of him scratching Bonaparte off the first manuscript

    • @dzatiashvili
      @dzatiashvili 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elizabethdevoto7566 Actually there is no historical proof. At least reliable.

  • @gavintoohey6604
    @gavintoohey6604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful

  • @Rayyman
    @Rayyman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I must give you a compliment on your presentation and Explanation of the music. I'm not a music major in any sense. The only instrument I played was a trumpet in jr high where I was lucky enough to play star wars badly. I appreciate and understand what the composers did when you describe it. You sound like Salieri describing Mozart without the malice and content

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm in the same boat as yourself (trombone), but I love listening to educated people discuss the music. Even if I only understand 10% of the terminology being used, I feel more connected with my minute increase in understanding it.

  • @cunite9263
    @cunite9263 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since I discovered this site, I have not gone back to listening to symphony music especially the one by Beethoven. Got the piano score version of Eroica!

  • @waliaphellps1745
    @waliaphellps1745 ปีที่แล้ว

    “… a far away key”. How beautiful.

  • @conductor26
    @conductor26 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job on making this! Appreciate your insight and the love of this symphony! What is the recording(s) you used for this? I am curious since everything sounds so good to me

  • @rnhtube
    @rnhtube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your videos are so great. A scholar and layperson alike can appreciate the points you make in your videos. I'm about to see if you've done 2 or 4 which every time I listen to them I understand why they aren't as popular as the others.

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the opening movement of the Fourth. Those brooding notes of the first few minutes are magical.

    • @clavichord
      @clavichord 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still good symphonies though. Beethoven's first and second are great examples of fine late classical symphonies, with touches of what was to come.

    • @rogerchavez2531
      @rogerchavez2531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That goes for a lot fof his underappreciated works but I've realized thatswhen you really get to hear how much a genius he really truly was.

  • @thanhato7308
    @thanhato7308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    awesome content thoo .. btw can u make a video explaining the meaning of the 7th symphony plss

  • @premprakash8373
    @premprakash8373 ปีที่แล้ว

    This indeed was a long wait to get some commentary on Beethoven's symphonic creations.lt takes me back to my days in Bremen,1956 to 1961 ,where l first got introduced to Western classical music.llt was the sessions with Helmuth Schnackenburg (Bremen Radio,:Music fuer die Jugend,Einfuehrung in die Eroica,etc)that affirmed my mind and soul to the Classical music,particularly to that composed by the trip ;Beethoven,Mozart and Schubert.Schnackenburg would really lead to the depths and the mood of the composer in creating the. particular piece .The explanation bit by bit of the adagio,the Funeral March,
    What persuaded Beethoven to introduce it in the symph and then playing it as a whole thereafter raised some sort of emotional tears in eyes of some of us. This commentary today is indeed a very welcome work for listeners to understand the basic 'BHAVA'as we call it in relation to the lndian Cl Music,l lookforward to hear more such explanatory programmes on Google/U tube. .

  • @sonnygramos
    @sonnygramos ปีที่แล้ว

    Sharing. For those who are into classical music, add this story to your agenda.

  • @derarken73
    @derarken73 ปีที่แล้ว

    can use this for my exam. thanks!

  • @Jacobus999
    @Jacobus999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @davidbudo5551
    @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The most groundbreaking piece of music ever composed. The first and last movements are utter miracles. The 2nd movement, particularly the double fugue, is in my opinion, the single greatest musical expression produced by any human being. From a technical point of view, there are no flaws, while from an emotional perspective, its power and feeling has no equal.
    While the Scherzo 3rd movement is absolutely incredible, it feels a touch out of place, and it keeps me from naming this symphony the greatest of them all.
    Great video and thank you for the effort. I only wish it were longer so you could go into further depth.

    • @itamarabramson5603
      @itamarabramson5603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fact that it is still discussed now, makes it one of the greatest out there. About the Scherzo, you know, there is a reason Beethoven added a Scherzo to his major works. Think of what it represents. Yes you have your battles, and grief, and at the end you may even Heroically win. But what about taking a moment to just having fun? Yes, even directly after realizing that your own death is getting closer every day. Imagine the incredibly soft end of the 2nd movement going directly to the powerful call in the begining of the finale. This isn't life, there is something missing, who's victory is this?
      I find the scherzo unbelievably well placed, starting with fast E flat chords which kind of continues exactly from the brief transition to C minor (the 2nd movement) creating a balanced polar opposite. Think of Piano sonata 32. 2 movments, no pause, perfect opposites.
      We have only achieved the Finale after going through all forms that Beethoven was capable of reinventing.

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@itamarabramson5603, thank you for such a thoughtful response. I completely see what you're saying and that's why it never bothers me to the point of turning it off. It is an excellent piece of composition.
      The thing I really enjoy doing is ripping my CD's and rearranging the symphonies to see how they play together. I think of the Third Symphony with a different story of a single long battle. The first movement is the chaos of the battle itself. The second is the mourning of the ones we lost, with both happy reminiscing and tumultuous, profound grief. Then I add the third and fourth movements of the Fifth Symphony. The third movement begins with the final clash of the few remaining survivors, followed by the hesitancy of celebrating too early. It concludes with the jubilant eruption of freedom to those tasked with carrying the torch forward.
      It is a great deal of fun to play with the music and seeing what combinations reveal in storytelling.

    • @itamarabramson5603
      @itamarabramson5603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidbudo5551 It does sound fun. I understand why you enjoy mixing movements from symphonies and it takes creativity to listen to them in such an unconventional way. The only problem that arises is that of tonality. Is the victory in C major really celebrating the same E flat major battle? Perhaps. Proggresive tonality only became a thing with Liszt's Dante symphony, then Mahler made extensive use of it. Anyway it helped to keep tonal language "fresh" for another 50 years or so, and maybe this exactly the freshness we need nowdays, on B's 250 birthday.

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@itamarabramson5603, cheers to your encouraging sentiments. I have some lofty ideas for a future project involving his symphonies and visuals. I really want to bring his music to the new generation of our introspective-starved youth, in its naturally classical form.

    • @elaineblackhurst1509
      @elaineblackhurst1509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ‘The most groundbreaking piece of music ever composed’.
      Obviously an opinion, not a fact; other candidates might include:
      Corelli - Violin Sonatas Opus 5 (at a stroke - 1 January 1700 - all previous music was rendered dated).
      Haydn - String Quartets Opus 20 (defined the string quartet from it first publication in 1772 until the present day).
      Wagner - Tristan (fill in your own reasons).
      Stravinsky - Rite of Spring (Ditto).
      Et cetera.
      Beethoven certainly qualifies too, but as ‘one of’, not ‘the’.

  • @crimsonhawk52
    @crimsonhawk52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might be a long shot since this channel mostly covers orchestral works, but I'd love to see a break down of some of Rachmaninoff's moments musicaux and preludes for piano. Some of my favorite music full stop.

  • @jameslabs1
    @jameslabs1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @shakamarko7260
    @shakamarko7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last movement is a masterpiece!

    • @owlcowl
      @owlcowl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So are the first three!

    • @WetaMantis
      @WetaMantis ปีที่แล้ว

      I always have teary eyes.

  • @TheTomzy93
    @TheTomzy93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great informative video but I would suggest adding the clef, time, and key signatures to the written examples. Otherwise we won't know how to read it

  • @akramnajjar
    @akramnajjar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well presented . . . . . thanks very much. How did you manage to include sound clips that were not blocked by TH-cam? Did you have to find a version that is in the public domain? Thanks

  • @paulsomers5356
    @paulsomers5356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    16:24 Sounds like Tchaikovsky found some inspiration here.

    • @calebliew5584
      @calebliew5584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which piece?

    • @paulsomers5356
      @paulsomers5356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Caleb Liew I hear a lot of his flute ornamentation from all three of his big ballets. Mainly the Nutcracker. In particular, the runs from the “Dance of the Reed Flutes,” and “Drosselmeyer’s Arrival.”

    • @romanleon76
      @romanleon76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right ,i found the same similitude

    • @LionKing-mv2uk
      @LionKing-mv2uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      7:22 also sounds like Tchaikovsky

    • @paulsomers5356
      @paulsomers5356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lion King Agreed! It reminds me of his first symphony, and it really reminds me of his Overture to The Maid of Orleans.

  • @oliverqueen756
    @oliverqueen756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the great analysis 😃 Do you dare to try analyzing George Enescu opera Oedip?

  • @user-cc2ix1kg5k
    @user-cc2ix1kg5k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want Bruckner symphonies analysis. Thank you!

  • @elliotdavies3555
    @elliotdavies3555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which recording did you use for this analysis? It's great and they deserve acknowledgement :)

  • @SwissOnZ
    @SwissOnZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so great. Helps with my family’s genealogy. Michael is a uncle. C-sharp to D(eMARuS), Mars. He’s moonlighting as Beethoven. see Jupiter 41. The Fable of the Bee’s. PastorAL-LEN Symphony it’s a fragment KV 622 gA. Gabriel Allen-Batieste. We have a lot of names. I’ve written quite a bit on the topic but this is an amazing source. Not fully through the video. 9:07. Perfect thus far. Must practice.

  • @Noctifern
    @Noctifern ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont understand how you didn't cover 14:45-15:20 of the first movement. it's the most incredibly part!

  • @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven
    @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven ปีที่แล้ว

    I really your video essays
    This is quality work
    Could you do a series over Shostakovich

  • @CurtisBooksMusic
    @CurtisBooksMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It may be true that no quick guide can do it justice, but no multi hour guide will get many views. At least from me. :) Keep it up please.

  • @MIRobin22
    @MIRobin22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bold move, spending less than a minute on the famous third movement.

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel the 3rd movement, while beautiful in its own right, feels a bit out of place from the rest of the symphony. I do this thing sometimes where I like to listen to the first two movements of the Eroica and then the final two movements of the Fifth. Flows beautifully together and really drives home the triumphant heroes journey.

    • @ze_rubenator
      @ze_rubenator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@davidbudo5551 The 3rd movement is just as groundbreaking as the others and in my opinion fits perfectly. It's a welcome brief respite after the heavy 2nd and the sheer relentlessness of variations in the finale.

    • @bradleyanderson247
      @bradleyanderson247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidbudo5551 I know I'm late here. In some ways the 3rd movement seems a bit out of place given the drama and intensity of the 1st movement and the somberness of the funeral march. I know that some of the early reviews viewed the 3rd and 4th movements as not fitting well with the first two movements. That said, I once watched an analysis by Robert Greenberg; he described the movements as representing struggle, death, rebirth, and apotheosis. If one thinks of the 3rd movement as representing a different part of an ongoing story, it make more sense. A wonderful work, regardless.

  • @shanubag6785
    @shanubag6785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He had explained better than in Wikipedia

  • @Tylervrooman
    @Tylervrooman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also, his use of the Double bass as its own instrument throughout is new.

    • @braedenhill9808
      @braedenhill9808 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong, Mozart did the same in Serenade no 13 mvt. 4. Also Handel in the Contredanse of the Water Music Suite

  • @Ben-ej1wl
    @Ben-ej1wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really enjoy hearing your analysis on the individual sections (especially the confident and relief-filled C# to C natural step in the recapitulation). What I'm still confused about is that "overarching connectedness" you mentioned in the Style section. Having listened to the symphony several times over the last year, I've tried to pick out motives and transformations between movements, but have failed to do so. I know there's a lot to do with the Eb triad, but messing with the tonic triad is pretty common to all of Beethoven's works and can't see how it's specially played out in this piece. Any thoughts?

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Excellent question. I think it was a book by Antony Hopkins on Beethoven Symphonies - his essay on the 3rd argues very thoroughly for this huge sense of organicism throughout. Well worth a read, it's a brilliant book! I should buy it - I only read chapters in a library.
      You don't have to agree with him of course. But it is an argument :)

    • @Ben-ej1wl
      @Ben-ej1wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@InsidetheScore Not the first time I've been recommended Antony Hopkins. Sounds like I have some reading to do. Thanks!

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InsidetheScore, I guess this will be my second Beethoven book. 'Anguish and Triumph' by Jan Swafford blew me away, and despite showing all of the negative aspects to Ludwig, made me love the man even more. Great question from the OP and thank you for the recommendation I.T.S..

  • @mitchellgeorge6031
    @mitchellgeorge6031 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always interpreted the second movement as Beethoven’s heartbreak at Napoleon seemingly abandoning the ideals of the French Revolution by declaring himself Emperor of the French. Beethoven, to me, is composing a funeral march for the memory of the old Napoleon.

    • @olgafernandez6626
      @olgafernandez6626 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love this interpretation tbh

    • @elaineblackhurst1509
      @elaineblackhurst1509 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Listen to ‘Wellington’s Victory’ Opus 91 written in 1813 and then you can carry on to the next chapter of your story.

  • @grantcobrien
    @grantcobrien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video! A few things:
    1. Could you make sure to add clefs if you are ever showing notation?
    2. Cite the recording that you are using?
    Thanks!

  • @JB-dm5cp
    @JB-dm5cp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excuse my ignorance, but does the last note in the fourth bar not kind of lead the way for the C# in the fifth bar? If yes, how? If not, why not? Thanks. And thank you for your very helpful and inspiring guide through this magnificent piece of music (and all others). I hope to learn to read music myself, and learn to play a bit whistle and recorder. I have found out that being able to follow the notes - and all the indications given in the score - really enhances the experience of listening to great music.
    P.S. My favorite conductors for Beethoven are possibly Gunter Wand and Charles Mackerras. But I think I might need to listen to Barenboim too.

    • @davidbudo5551
      @davidbudo5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I enjoy Barenboim. It never feels like he's rushing through the music, but let's it breathe when it needs to. Thanks for the conductor recommendations. I will give them both a listen. I know there are many who don't like him, but Karajan is still my overall favourite. Especially the Beethoven cycle from the 60's.

    • @kaiqizhang1037
      @kaiqizhang1037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That note, no matter what it is, has to pave the way to the 5th bar, as you said. But the power is that it was the least expected note to do so. It’s completely out of the scale. The opening theme sounded so simple and elegant, comprised of only the tonal triad, but then what comes after is the minor 7th note, which is not in the major scale at all, creating a huge instability. It is probably nothing now, but at that time, it was simply unheard of. Hope this help! Cheers!

  • @EagleEye-vm9gf
    @EagleEye-vm9gf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @yuanclo
    @yuanclo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you explain the music (for people who cannot read the score) while the whole music is playing, in stead of just a little piece at a time? Thanks.

  • @juwonnnnn
    @juwonnnnn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏

  • @kuechlgeigerwien5467
    @kuechlgeigerwien5467 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compare the final of the creatures of the prometheus with the forth movement of the eroica. What will you notice?

  • @penguinexpress12
    @penguinexpress12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Has anyone seen IMMORTAL BELOVED?! It seems to be such an underseen film. I think it’s better than Amadeus.

    • @alexandrugheorghe5610
      @alexandrugheorghe5610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's even a better one made by BBC: search the Genius of Beethoven - fire and fury. It has 3 parts (each of about an hour) and is on TH-cam. It's the best documentary I've seen on Beethoven. There's also one for Mozart. That one is really good as well.

  • @arinaina4262
    @arinaina4262 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dedication to whomever or not, it's never less greatness of Beethoven 3rd symphony.

    • @Ludwig55555
      @Ludwig55555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no doubt this is the greatest Symphony of all time

    • @elaineblackhurst1509
      @elaineblackhurst1509 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ludwig55555
      Yes there is as no such thing exists.

  • @EverettJohnson-gu3tu
    @EverettJohnson-gu3tu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey @InsidetheScore, you misdiagnosed the oboe melody for a flute at around 12:55.

  • @golem2008
    @golem2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can only recommend everyone to give paavo järvis version of this and other beethoven symphonies at least one try.

  • @TriviaWizard
    @TriviaWizard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    which recording is this? Thank you

  • @dionthomas7077
    @dionthomas7077 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would be so much better if the creator would play more than tiny snippets of the actual music

  • @hauthot287
    @hauthot287 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn’t say eroica is Beethovens greatest piece, imo that’s the 9th symphony, but it’s definitely his magnum opus

  • @WetaMantis
    @WetaMantis ปีที่แล้ว

    Vive l'Empereur !
    🥲🇨🇵

  • @stevenak115
    @stevenak115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this symphony for me and even Haydn was and always will be the symphony that changed it all. it was brilliant and always will be. the only two symphonies of Beethoven's that compare for me to this level are his 5th and 9th. but, had it not been for the 3rd and his change in character from pure classical to that... there would have been no 3rd, 5th, or 9th. we would have continued to see things like his 1st, and 2nd. who knows what music would be like now without composers being bold for their times. Mozart did things he wasn't supposed to too

    • @mr-wx3lv
      @mr-wx3lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think subsequent composers would have anywhere near impact had it not been for Beethoven.

    • @elaineblackhurst1509
      @elaineblackhurst1509 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mr-wx3lv
      Same is true of Beethoven himself in relation to Mozart and Haydn.

  • @tommasorossi578
    @tommasorossi578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please make the analisys of the "how ti train your Dragon" please!!

    • @hello-bt6hs
      @hello-bt6hs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's such an incredible soundtrack!

    • @tommasorossi578
      @tommasorossi578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hello-bt6hs exactly! Its incredible!

  • @DerEritas
    @DerEritas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't the Bass-fugue-line of the 4th movement the reverse Steibelt piece Beethoven mocked (in the inverted version) in a piano-contest between the two? Or is that just fan-fiction?

    • @theoriemeister
      @theoriemeister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure about the Steibelt piece you're referring to, but the music that provides the foundation for the variations in the final movement first appears as the Variations for Piano, op. 35. It also shows up as No. 7 of the 12 Contredanses (WoO 14).

  • @biomuseum6645
    @biomuseum6645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can somebody explain me the meaning of the 3rd movement's meaning?