Hey animator and animatronic enthusiast here, been following Damon for a long time as he's a great guy. Wanted to give some info about the cels and animation. The head missing thing is correct, alot of cels and such use this to save money and time if a portion of the body doesn't move and the rest does. The lines and such on the side are to keep in the same place and keep the same proportions and to show off how many frames this movement will need and if its bouncy this it shows how many frames will do a big movement and what frames will do a smaller one, it helps to keep track and tell the animators and cel painters how it's supposed to look like. The lettering is defo scenes and the number afterwards is how many cels in that scene, so were looking at hundreds of cels for this. A commercial of this length, with this amount of frames, cel work and for it's length would of taken roughly over 6 months or longer then you'd have edit it and back then it was done on literal tape so Damon's rough estimates of when it was produced is a good guess too. I can see the cels are starting to yellow which isn't a good sign, cels are not made to last at all as they were usually thrown out after production ended so the fact Damon has these is incredible in itself. Hope this gets found soon!
Adding onto this as a fellow animator, and considering the framerates of the time, I would say there's about 900 cels MAXIMUM for a commercial of that full length at the time, if they for some crazy reason decided to make it at 30 fps (Frames per second, or using these terms cels per second). Films created by Disney at the time typically used 24 fps which would lead to about 720 frames (Cels) in total. If any of the other cels somehow survived, unless stored directly in a temperature controlled environment, will soon be lost to time, as presumably just over 43 years has past since its production. Considering the company itself, I can say that they were indeed thrown out, but take that with a grain of salt, as these managed to make it. Any VHS recordings of the commercial as well are probably lost unless the VHS tape was preserved with a basic amount of caution (I've seen how some people treat them, don't pull the tape out please), or the recording was transferred to a different storage device. I'm just going to say that chances are, the media's gone, but here's to hoping! If anyone has higher quality images of these cels or knows if they were posted anywhere, I can try and piece them together, and try to fill in the missing frames/cels. I might be able to figure out the rate as well to estimate the amount of cels were produced. Additionally, the time of the commercial's airing was around the time of Showbiz Pizza's establishment after Robert Brock had broken off from Chuck E. Cheese. With Showbiz's different-styled animatironics setting it apart from its rivals, they may have scrapped all other marketing campaigns and thrown out their old stuff to quickly set up to compete with Brock's venture. I'm not going to directly say any of this is true. I'm not old enough to have remembered any of this, this is just an inference based on my prior knowledge of the subject. The Rock-afire Explosion band was definitely much different than anything Chuck E. Cheese had though, so I wouldn't be surprised if the company had taken the offensive with their marketing campaigns, since Brock used to be a part of their team. Just as the above comment had stated, the cels are starting to yellow and that's not a good sign. We can only hope that if the rest of the cels are in circulation, we can find them and bring them together. I'm pretty sure we're all willing to help with the search however we can.
@@NoLongerActive280 oh 100% preservation was different back then, heck alot of companies back in the 70's and 80's used to wipe master tapes to save on space. honestly, it could be remade from what frames it has but it would take a bit. i'm not too hopeful that anymore cels exist cause time and the plastic they used starts to rot over time kinda like old movie reels.
@@Discontinued_account Yeah, not going to doubt that, but since there’s a good few cels there I still want to try putting them back together. There’s next to no chance that anymore survived, so I’m not getting my hopes up, but the commercial itself has to be somewhere, so it could help with the search. I’m going to do what I can here, since it’d be a fun project.
@@NoLongerActive280 Sounds like it could be fun, I do think the Advert will be found one day hopefully soon. but i have no hope there's more cels. Sadly we may never know if Chuck's og voice actor remembered working on this as he passed away a few years ago but it's likely he did voice acting for it
@@Discontinued_accountYeah… We may never get a sure enough lead since it was such a long time ago… Sure hope something will come up soon though, I’d love to see the original. All that old (ish) stuff has a special place in my heart, so that would be amazing to finally see it. I’ll see what I can find for images of these cels, and see what I can do. Maybe it’ll help someone remember. If I get it done I’ll post it. I just hope the commercial isn’t truly lost to time like some of other lost medias are. I bet someone out there has it. Somewhere.
We enjoyed drawing Chuck E. Cheese from 1991 all the way up to 2003 during Dick Frank’s tenure. He was always loyal to us. During that time it was leaked to us that we increased sales volume of the Denis Foland merchandise by 35% with our design changes. Charlie Rose (and Dan Peeler) we also have cels from opening video animation from 1991-92. It certainly is fun to be a part of pop-culture history.
How many times did it come out just once or a couple of times. Do you know anyone that recorded stuff like these if they did they might have this and a few others
Stopping kids from saying first. Edit: I made this for fun and had no thought of people actually seeing this, so if you have a problem with it then just leave the comment alone
7:12 That's a timing chart, it's purpose is to basically help the animators know the space/timing between frames And 7:19 "very light dry brush" is a note to the person who painted that specific cel to ( the best way I can describe it ) paint what is basically a brush stroke pattern onto the cel, which is what you actually see under the hand
The crazy thing is I had recorded this commercial on Saturday morning. Watching the power rangers what is a child. This just makes me want to find that video tape now. Although after my mom passed away in 2017. I haven't seen a video tapes since I may have to go back to the old family house to see if they're still there. But the thing is I seen this commercial in like 96 or 97 I was 6 years old.
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For all we know some of the cells could be at a landfill or a dump the recordings of the vhs tape as smitty said someone could have recorded there Saturday cartoons and the commercial appear and that vhs tape could be somewhere in someone’s house anything is possible
my pizza animatronic hyperfixation just came swinging back, and while i'm more interested in the Rock-Afire, i'm so excited seeing a video about the lost CEC commercial!! it's awesome that these animation cels still exist and i'm really hoping we'll get to see all of them in full motion one day! this is super cool!!
Hey morbidforfun. There’s this picture of an abandoned looking Mitzi Mozzarella from the rocket fire explosion band. You might mention her in the video that’s coming out in October but despite her condition she is in she isn’t abandoned at all. She is stored in the creative engineering wear-house. Aaron Fechter was going to restore her.
It was found on Jun 19 2024 and was actually real like that and it was found on youtube the youtuber was Showbiz pizza collecter and was in lost media found media
Yo thanks for giving us some AMAZING CONTENT!!! Well you could’ve asked Damon for you to take a picture of every frame and make it into the animation that it used to be
sad thing is even if there is a tape it most likely wont be found for a very long time and tehre can only be so many tapes the odds someone with it does not know what it is are very low its gonna be like most other found old media and be found like 10 years from now because someone checked their old stuff
I'd think that a lot of Chuck E Cheese and Showbiz Pizza media would be lost. You think that there's recordings of every single show configuration over the years?
I would send these cells to Baumgardner Fine Art Restoration and have them properly preserved and conserved it will cost a pretty buck but I'm sure that with the fame of these artifacts that they will be worth above 5 digits so well worth the restoration. and since every image will then be stable to handle and flat so they can be re-shot safely.
At around 18:01 he mistakenly says Chuck E Cheese went out of business and she continued with Showtime, which was the opposite. I miss Showtime Pizza Palace.
Chuck E. Cheese did go out of business but then merged with showbiz in 1989 then the stores where no longer called Chuck E. Cheese or showbiz and called Showbiz inc it would continue this way until Showbiz left the contract in the 90s
@@morbidforfun it’s these old ads, not even sure what they were advertising. But it had a number that was “1800-FREAK” and it would show videos of weird stuff. The most famous one is the Freddy Freaker ad where it showed this weird yellow reject muppet that looked like if there was incest in the dinosaur times
Please reach out to the lost media community if you really do. They appreciate parts and sometimes those can jog memories that lead to the whole thing.
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Hey animator and animatronic enthusiast here, been following Damon for a long time as he's a great guy. Wanted to give some info about the cels and animation. The head missing thing is correct, alot of cels and such use this to save money and time if a portion of the body doesn't move and the rest does. The lines and such on the side are to keep in the same place and keep the same proportions and to show off how many frames this movement will need and if its bouncy this it shows how many frames will do a big movement and what frames will do a smaller one, it helps to keep track and tell the animators and cel painters how it's supposed to look like. The lettering is defo scenes and the number afterwards is how many cels in that scene, so were looking at hundreds of cels for this. A commercial of this length, with this amount of frames, cel work and for it's length would of taken roughly over 6 months or longer then you'd have edit it and back then it was done on literal tape so Damon's rough estimates of when it was produced is a good guess too.
I can see the cels are starting to yellow which isn't a good sign, cels are not made to last at all as they were usually thrown out after production ended so the fact Damon has these is incredible in itself. Hope this gets found soon!
Adding onto this as a fellow animator, and considering the framerates of the time, I would say there's about 900 cels MAXIMUM for a commercial of that full length at the time, if they for some crazy reason decided to make it at 30 fps (Frames per second, or using these terms cels per second). Films created by Disney at the time typically used 24 fps which would lead to about 720 frames (Cels) in total. If any of the other cels somehow survived, unless stored directly in a temperature controlled environment, will soon be lost to time, as presumably just over 43 years has past since its production. Considering the company itself, I can say that they were indeed thrown out, but take that with a grain of salt, as these managed to make it. Any VHS recordings of the commercial as well are probably lost unless the VHS tape was preserved with a basic amount of caution (I've seen how some people treat them, don't pull the tape out please), or the recording was transferred to a different storage device. I'm just going to say that chances are, the media's gone, but here's to hoping! If anyone has higher quality images of these cels or knows if they were posted anywhere, I can try and piece them together, and try to fill in the missing frames/cels. I might be able to figure out the rate as well to estimate the amount of cels were produced.
Additionally, the time of the commercial's airing was around the time of Showbiz Pizza's establishment after Robert Brock had broken off from Chuck E. Cheese. With Showbiz's different-styled animatironics setting it apart from its rivals, they may have scrapped all other marketing campaigns and thrown out their old stuff to quickly set up to compete with Brock's venture. I'm not going to directly say any of this is true. I'm not old enough to have remembered any of this, this is just an inference based on my prior knowledge of the subject. The Rock-afire Explosion band was definitely much different than anything Chuck E. Cheese had though, so I wouldn't be surprised if the company had taken the offensive with their marketing campaigns, since Brock used to be a part of their team.
Just as the above comment had stated, the cels are starting to yellow and that's not a good sign. We can only hope that if the rest of the cels are in circulation, we can find them and bring them together. I'm pretty sure we're all willing to help with the search however we can.
@@NoLongerActive280 oh 100% preservation was different back then, heck alot of companies back in the 70's and 80's used to wipe master tapes to save on space. honestly, it could be remade from what frames it has but it would take a bit. i'm not too hopeful that anymore cels exist cause time and the plastic they used starts to rot over time kinda like old movie reels.
@@Discontinued_account Yeah, not going to doubt that, but since there’s a good few cels there I still want to try putting them back together. There’s next to no chance that anymore survived, so I’m not getting my hopes up, but the commercial itself has to be somewhere, so it could help with the search. I’m going to do what I can here, since it’d be a fun project.
@@NoLongerActive280 Sounds like it could be fun, I do think the Advert will be found one day hopefully soon. but i have no hope there's more cels. Sadly we may never know if Chuck's og voice actor remembered working on this as he passed away a few years ago but it's likely he did voice acting for it
@@Discontinued_accountYeah… We may never get a sure enough lead since it was such a long time ago… Sure hope something will come up soon though, I’d love to see the original. All that old (ish) stuff has a special place in my heart, so that would be amazing to finally see it. I’ll see what I can find for images of these cels, and see what I can do. Maybe it’ll help someone remember. If I get it done I’ll post it. I just hope the commercial isn’t truly lost to time like some of other lost medias are. I bet someone out there has it. Somewhere.
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i am SO happy youre talking about things like this as a huge fan of chuck e cheese/showbiz
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It's cool to see how there are other people who get joy from little robot goofies :)
Showbiz rat lady is more creepy than every version of chuck combined.
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@@thepizzaratt i think her name is mitsy mozzerella
It sucks kids today won’t be able to enjoy getting a cup of coins and winning physical tickets at Chuck E. Cheese since now they just give you cards.
Really? Wow I still have coins of chucky e. Cheese lol how times change
At least I was around when they still did that so I got to experience it, even if I was little.
@@Somoutogomea same
it's been forever since I went there, do they really not do that anymore?
I’ve still got about 3 tokens i accidently stole as a kid
We enjoyed drawing Chuck E. Cheese from 1991 all the way up to 2003 during Dick Frank’s tenure. He was always loyal to us. During that time it was leaked to us that we increased sales volume of the Denis Foland merchandise by 35% with our design changes. Charlie Rose (and Dan Peeler) we also have cels from opening video animation from 1991-92. It certainly is fun to be a part of pop-culture history.
I saw the lost media as a child of the 70s. 😂 My son will want to watch the animatronic video Tuv and you are making!
How many times did it come out just once or a couple of times. Do you know anyone that recorded stuff like these if they did they might have this and a few others
@bostonsandatot4948 Did you really see this commercial? If you do, please put it online please?
Stopping kids from saying first.
Edit: I made this for fun and had no thought of people actually seeing this, so if you have a problem with it then just leave the comment alone
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This is stqarting to get more annoying then the reason these comments are here
Ok now we need to end saying "stopping kids from saying first"
If it bothers you that much than who’s really the kid? It’s annoying, sure. But just ignore the shit.
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7:12 That's a timing chart, it's purpose is to basically help the animators know the space/timing between frames
And 7:19 "very light dry brush" is a note to the person who painted that specific cel to ( the best way I can describe it ) paint what is basically a brush stroke pattern onto the cel, which is what you actually see under the hand
Hyped to watch the Doc!
It’s funny that you’re releasing a video on animatronics exactly two weeks before the FNaF Movie.
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If Chuck E. Cheese had a tv show
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Tux: fox kids
Avanger: Cartoon Network
Rockstar: Netflix
Why does this actually make sense
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@@Cool_guy279I Think Avenger Would’ve Have Been PBS Kids Cuz Chuck E Cheese Was In The PBS Kids Commercials
0:26 When you were saying that, I was literally wondering if you two would collab again
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The crazy thing is I had recorded this commercial on Saturday morning. Watching the power rangers what is a child. This just makes me want to find that video tape now. Although after my mom passed away in 2017. I haven't seen a video tapes since I may have to go back to the old family house to see if they're still there. But the thing is I seen this commercial in like 96 or 97 I was 6 years old.
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So amazing Aaron got to hold a physical piece of lost media in his hand. Very cool!
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This lost media is sooooooo cool, an actual Physical piece of post media !!
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For all we know some of the cells could be at a landfill or a dump the recordings of the vhs tape as smitty said someone could have recorded there Saturday cartoons and the commercial appear and that vhs tape could be somewhere in someone’s house anything is possible
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my pizza animatronic hyperfixation just came swinging back, and while i'm more interested in the Rock-Afire, i'm so excited seeing a video about the lost CEC commercial!! it's awesome that these animation cels still exist and i'm really hoping we'll get to see all of them in full motion one day! this is super cool!!
I love this entire video!i didn't a cheap fast food chain has so much lore into it!
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im glad you talked about this and brought it more attention!! i hope this gets found.
Makes you realize that there are probably thousands of lost media located in various people's basements.
Hey morbidforfun. There’s this picture of an abandoned looking Mitzi Mozzarella from the rocket fire explosion band. You might mention her in the video that’s coming out in October but despite her condition she is in she isn’t abandoned at all. She is stored in the creative engineering wear-house. Aaron Fechter was going to restore her.
It was found on Jun 19 2024 and was actually real like that and it was found on youtube the youtuber was Showbiz pizza collecter and was in lost media found media
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Can you do a video on the lost CEC 2 stage installation direction video?
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Yo thanks for giving us some AMAZING CONTENT!!! Well you could’ve asked Damon for you to take a picture of every frame and make it into the animation that it used to be
Can I please see that animated commercial if it gets reanimated?
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sad thing is even if there is a tape it most likely wont be found for a very long time and tehre can only be so many tapes the odds someone with it does not know what it is are very low its gonna be like most other found old media and be found like 10 years from now because someone checked their old stuff
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I'd think that a lot of Chuck E Cheese and Showbiz Pizza media would be lost. You think that there's recordings of every single show configuration over the years?
I would send these cells to Baumgardner Fine Art Restoration and have them properly preserved and conserved it will cost a pretty buck but I'm sure that with the fame of these artifacts that they will be worth above 5 digits so well worth the restoration.
and since every image will then be stable to handle and flat so they can be re-shot safely.
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At around 18:01 he mistakenly says Chuck E Cheese went out of business and she continued with Showtime, which was the opposite. I miss Showtime Pizza Palace.
Chuck E. Cheese did go out of business but then merged with showbiz in 1989 then the stores where no longer called Chuck E. Cheese or showbiz and called Showbiz inc it would continue this way until Showbiz left the contract in the 90s
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Day 2 of asking Aaron to do a vid on the 1800-FREAK ads
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@@morbidforfun it’s these old ads, not even sure what they were advertising. But it had a number that was “1800-FREAK” and it would show videos of weird stuff. The most famous one is the Freddy Freaker ad where it showed this weird yellow reject muppet that looked like if there was incest in the dinosaur times
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Unfortunately I think this commercial will be lost forever because it’s really old and no known copy’s are known to exist
I actually have parts of the lost media!
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Please reach out to the lost media community if you really do. They appreciate parts and sometimes those can jog memories that lead to the whole thing.
@@sourgreendolly7685ok. I will do.
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