What an absolute joy it is listening to someone like Aron who knows what he’s talking about, and how different it is from listening to the religious who think they know what they are talking about but don’t.
Could be life after death, even before it! But no god involved. All would be natural and possible. Mythology, humankind can do without. Humankind...be happy. Believe in yourselves. Not super magical claptrap. Just be and learn from the sciences.
Stephan Williams Could be, should be, would be...but it still be BS. It's fantasy and an appeal to ignorance...classic appeal to ignorance. Dawkins said there could be giant teapot in the sky, and it's still up to those claiming it to prove it, not simply appeal to ignorance.
Stephan Williams Yep, delusions of life before and after death is what you have. Making some claim doesn't make it possible nor probable and certainly doesn't fit with any know facts. There are these little things called the Laws of Nature, and they can't be suspended to accommodate some appeal to ignorance, not even your own, of course.
This was absolutely brilliant. Mr Ra, you're a very intelligent man and your delivery in this video was fantastic. I enjoyed the humour too. One of the best videos I have ever seen on this topic.
The hateful and violent comments of the “religious” here are an excellent reason for dumping any religion and adopting atheism, which seems to be humane and generous towards humanity
No vaccines for kids, medicine, fruits and vegetables during all seasons. I smashed my thumb at the door and it didn't gangrened because local twin surgeons, took care of it. Imagine that, back in the past
+That guy... intellectually honest or not, that comeback can show how hollow Ham's favorite line is. Apologists love to use it as a shot across the bow. If nothing else, it's _rude_ to argue the way Ham does.
+Shane Wilson It's to show how illogical their "prove god doesn't exist" argument is. If they see that they can't prove he wasn't there and say they don't have to, then hopefully they'll realize those same stipulations apply to us.
+wolfumz More than that it is IDIOTIC to argue that way. He was very likely not at the marriage of his parents, yet believes they WERE married (or maybe they are still alive, don't know, don't really care). He can't remember his own birth yet will fully believe all claims made about it... mother, probably father, time, place and if any were told to him other circumstances of it, e.g. how they got to the hospital or how long it took until the first ass slap of his life. He was neither there when Jesus died nor when Moses came down from Mount Sinai yet he instantly believes the book report about it. He wasn't there when a council decided what belongs in his bible and what not, he wasn't there when the oral traditions were first put into writing or when the english bishops sat down to make the King James Version translation yet he accepts all of that as true and base of his life and beliefs. And he especially was not there when allegedly the global flood created the Grand Canyon as he is so fond of rattling down in a long ago learned by heart explanation for his stance, yet he tells ad nauseam about it, so where's the difference? HE takes so much at face value despite not having been there. But i SCIENCE does it, he claims it's not proof because they were not there? Look, a hypocrite!
this is my favorite video of Aron's because; 1) he mentions the chronodrone which is one of my favorite thought experiments to think about when I'm daydreaming at work. its gratifying to know that other people think like that. 2) he is the 1st of the Unholy Trinity I have heard mention Tim fucking Minchin.
When I ask someone to back it up as they be like read that book, an I'm like doesn't prove it still. To believe is to fear an NOT understand it what so ever, only hear what they want you to hear. WOW!!!
Not to draw attention to myself but at 0:52 there's me walking in at the bottom left hand corner. AronRa pretty much always give a good talk but this one was pretty funny as well, I really enjoyed it and so will you!
If there is something I'm really, really grateful for, it is that I was _never_ [in any 'serious' way] attempted influenced with religious dogma, and that I at the outset was equipped with a neural network making it (literally) _child's play_ following Aron's logical [and eloquent!] train of thought. *Period.* In _my_ mind, Aron Ra is an _unequivocal_ *force for good* on this royally fucked-up planet! . . .🤘
Intelligent design and evolution/big bang are competing theories. Once this is understood, it is obvious that both should be taught in schools as theories. It is immoral to pass off scientific theories as "facts" and stamp out your competition just because you have control of institutions and textbooks. This is about politics not truth.
@@matsumoku1 Wrong wrong and wrong ! Intelligent design is not a scientific theory it is a statement made from an iron age book of myths . Should schools teach greek mythology as well ? how about Norse mythology as well should we teach that thunder is thors hammer . Should we teach that mustard seeds are the smallest seed ? that bats are birds ? that whales are just big fish ? Your ignorance is telling the big band is supported by evidence not it suz so in muh buk . Evolution is a well founded and understood process it follows the evidence it is testable and provable . Creation whats the evidence of course its in muh 2000 year old Buy Bull sighs
@@matsumoku1 Oh dear here we go again .Something has never been observed coming from nothing therefore its impossible huh ? That is the biggest argument from ignorance that theists come up with . But to cap that you bung in special pleading that god is exempt form that because he she or it is such a special little cupcake . GAWD GONE UN DUN IT is NOT the answer
I defiantly fall under the 'I need to understand' camp....or 'try to understand' ,at least. Since, technically, I don't 'need' to understand. However, my mind simply will not allow for accepting anything on 'faith'. My fear of death plays a big part of this, and I can intellectually admit this. Some people can't cope with the thought of not existing...thus...believing.
I've seen a video of a cat batting around a small mouse and the mouse audibly started squealing at the mouse, almost as though it were begging. The cat looked at the mouse and actually stopped abusing the mouse. I would conclude that the mouse had a VERY strong fear of death. Who the hell wants to die? Even a mouse is afraid to die.
@@heydude7568 hey, dude, everybody is fuckin hopeless, it's just a lot of people delude themselves into having more hope than is possible. Hope is cute, but isn't realistic.
@@thetinfoilfreak thats what i said 30 years ago before i genuinely confessed my sins to a God I thought wasnt there but i got to such a place i was willing to forego my 'intellect' you have been told now, and so on that Great Day He returns and if you have not repented before the God Who loves you then it is you who has cast his own eternal fate
One of Aron's very best presentations. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it's a little scientifically dated concerning the cosmic heat death theory? Regardless, interstellar sized logical genius.
Total Mass Retain he wasn’t christian, he was Jewish, so yeah on that point most christian/evangelicals would shudder in horror at the sight of a 5’6” ish swarthy middle eastern male person of the Jewish persuasion attempting to infiltrate their hallowed white evangelical haven
I've watched several of these videos from Gateway to Reason 2015. Did any of the speakers give titles to their talks? It would be a lot more helpful and I think people would be a lot more inclined to click on them if they knew the subject of the talk and not just the speaker's name.
Oners82 Maybe I'm just an idiot, but I had no clue as to their topics. I'm familiar with a lot of these people and know most of them to be able to talk intelligently about a wide range of topics.
Guitcad1 For sure, but they all have their favoured topics. Aron Ra - the stupidity of creationism. Dilahunty - rational thinking and secular morality. Dan Barker - the psychology of belief. I could go on.
Okay.I just wish the titles had the subject of the talk. "Aron Ra - 2015 Gateway to reason" doesn't help me distinguish it from the hundreds of other Aron Ra videos out there.
There's a science fiction book about that. Where everyone can look back in time with a small wormhole. Has anyone read it? I forget what it's called. I wish I could hear him prove it. I'd like to able to do that. To me it's a proven fact but I've heard creationists deny all kinds of reality.
@@nicholasjones3207 It might be. I read a lot of Philip K Dick. But I read a lot of books. I'm a trucker and I listen to a lot of audiobooks. Maybe that's enough though. I'll try Google. Nope. Couldn't find it. Maybe it wasn't Dick. Okay I found it. It's by Stephen Baxter and Arthur C. Clarke. It's called The Light of Other Days.
Well, I've noticed that Mormons Ra only focuses on Christianity and will not make and attempt Islam, sciencetolgy, book of mormon or any other faith. Mr. Ra makes valid points but only the faith that will not attack back.
Christianity certainly attacks back. Aron Ra has dozens of videos addressing the Koran. The Book of Mormon is premised on several claims in the Bible, such as the Tower of Babel and the Resurrection of Christ, so it doesn't need to be singled out for special attack. Scientology isn't trying to teach creationism in public schools and is irrelevant in the larger picture.
It would take centuries to see the Dawn of the Universe?? Bumer, that means that even with a chronodrome we wouldn't be able to cover that, huh!?... u-n-l-e-s-s... we just used another chronodrome covering the actions of the original one!!! Lol. That way we could check it within a few minutes ;-) Lol, well, on a more serious note, though... AronRa was correct about the dangers of overpopulation. And we *are* dangerously approaching a break point. But things could be even darker than we think, and the answer not as simple as "make less babies". Sure, we could try that. But we seem doomed to fall prey to our *own* technological sophistication [especially in the field of Medicine]. Because our elders can now live longer and longer (without getting any younger, though), and if we contrast that with a world with less and less babies, the ratio takes on a nightmarish scenario. Each working/productive adult will have to create enough richness to support 6 or 7 old retired people. It's impossible. So what should we do? Kill our elderly instead of making less babies? In a world without moral boundaries perhaps, but *not* in the world we've come to create. So what to do? I don't know... and i suspect no one really does.
Well, at least he acknowledges that we should stop breeding. :) That's a better form of extinction than the other one. But that is also acknowledging that life is a bad thing, so idk why it would be "precious".
Matt Jones I'm confused and disappointed that I have to explain that no animals want to die, ergo, fear death. Did you know when farmers put down an animal they try to surprise it because the stress created from fear will make the meat different? You ever step on a crowd of ants? Every predatory non-human animal tries for the element of surprise because the prey will try to evade it. So what in the flying fuck makes you think that any animal doesn't fear death?
Matt Jones the same reason a naturalist does and in the exact same fashion. What evidence do you have to imply any animal doesn't know the reason it does anything? Did you know why your heart beat or your lungs breathe when you were born? I'm assuming you're saying non humans behave entirely on subconscious impulse mechanisms similar to that. Kind of like they're just witnessing their life happen. Or do you not think they're anything more than biochemical machines? I've got an idea that agrees and disagrees with you. Where we disagree is you drawing the line at humans. Do you now agree that non-human animals do fear death?
+Matt Jones I bet if someone watched me look at myself in the mirror half the time they might think the same thing. So now you're saying non-humans don't know what their body is because it seems like they don't realize they are seeing their own reflection in a mirror. therefore they can't fear their death because they don't even know what they are or are we dropping that point? I don't see a difference in you concluding animals have no thought and people narrating their young children as if they can read their mind or describing the emotions of their pets. I'm sure vegans and PETA would disagree with you. But I'm probably not going to make you think any different about your firsthand witness to those viral animals in mirror videos.
+killax1000 "... being able to comprehend what a mirror is ..." Most animals can't understand a mirror, but I have seen one or two cats of mine that were able to figure it out, but only if I were with them in the mirror. Cats have no concept of death. While burying victims of accident or disease, they show a passing interest in the deceased and the process of digging it's grave, after which they have waited patiently for me to be done with the task and free to attend to them. As for fearing death, the 'fight or flight' instinct in no way indicates a fear of the possible future state of death. Even humans still exhibit this instinctual mechanism, which is automatic. No consideration of consequences is needed to invoke it. To fear death, one must understand what it is. One must have a comprehension of the future and an ability to think with abstraction. Most animal lack these abilities.
Or... you could just use the monitor on Mr. Peabody's WABAC machine to instantly see stuff going on in the past. Not that you would tell Mr. Peabody you were going to use it to be a pervert. Mr. Peabody might object. The spoilsport.
I have known our Creator for 36 years now and His name is not Jesus. He used many people called prophets and saints to speak for Him, including the one who is writing this post.
The Prime Directive... *(Grand)Mother Music must be given the honor and respect that is Her due* . And the Prime Directive applies to everywhere across the board in all the universes, hyper-dimensions, and whatnot. No exceptions, no exemptions, no waivers, no excuses.
@The Dude Intelligent Design is not anti-evolution. ID posits that organisms were intelligently designed with the information and ability to evolve and adapt. Evolution by means of intelligent design, ie telic processes. Genetic algorithms exemplify evolution by means of telic processes.
I guess he was showing that one could live and make great friends without worrying about what material things you need to take with you every day to show-off to your neighbors.
+Phillip Shearman Being christian is a barrel of laughs though, isn't it. Except for the callouses on the knees and everything even close to fun being a sin
17:11 "If you want to understand you need to reject faith. Because faith is auto-deceptive..." Brew 11 - "Now reification of Hope is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. 2 For by it the people of old received their commendation. 3 By reification of Creativity we understand that the universe was created by the reified Creativity, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible. 4 By reification of Altruism Abel offered to reified Altruism a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, reified Altruism commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his reification of Sacrifice, though he died, he still speaks. 5 By reification of Life Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because reified Life had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased reified Life. 6 And without reification of Morality it is impossible to please reified Morality, for whoever would draw near to reified Morality must believe that reified Morality exists and that reified Morality rewards those who seek reified Morality." ...and so on. Definition of REIFY- transitive verb : to regard (something abstract) as a material or concrete thing www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reify The category 'Moral Absolute' is an empty category. Unless you're a Moralist, in which case you just give it a capital letter and plonk anything you like into it; Truth, Love, Justice, Spaghetti...
+differous01 What are you talking about? You start with faith, follow it up with a load of who knows what, and end with moral absolutes. WTF??? However not a single one of your modified quotes is a reification fallacy if that is supposed to be your point.
differous01 Because you are taking the quotes completely out of context. These ideas are not being treated as physical objects, they are being referred to as what they are, concepts. As an analogy, if I say to a kid, "Get a good education because if you grow up to be stupid you won't get a good job", according to you I am reifying both "education" and "stupid", which is clearly nonsense. An actual reification fallacy would be to say something like, "Love exists therefore who created love." That is a fallacy because love is an abstract concept and hence is not something that is created. But none of your quotes commits this fallacy. For example 3. is just acknowledging an attribute of god, not a physical object, 4. refers to how we should help others, again altruism is not being portrayed as a physical object. I could go on but you get the point.
Oners82 "3. is just acknowledging an attribute of god, not a physical object," Well, I am glad you acknowledge that god is not a real thing, but there are those who do believe that it is. For them, to make creativity an attribute of God IS to reify creativity. But creativity is a characteristic of Man, and we create God, not the other way around.
differous01 I didn't say that god isn't a real thing, again you are taking things out of context. My point was that CREATIVITY is not being reified, it is being treated as an aspect of god's character. "For them, to make creativity an attribute of God IS to reify creativity." That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If you are merely saying that a property is an aspect of an agent's character, whether it be creativity, love or anything else then by definition you are NOT reifying it. You are acknowledging it for what it really is, a personal trait. I mean just think about what you're saying. If it was genuinely an attempt at reification in that verse then it would be saying that god created creativity, which is a self contradictory proposition. Not even theists are that stupid. I agree with your last point.
First of all you believe in a God who performs miracles, so which of us believes in magic? Second of all nothing created itself, it was there before the big bang and merely took on a different form afterwards due to changing conditions.
@@rollochairbreaker230 //First of all you believe in a God who performs miracles, so which of us believes in magic?// And you believe in miracles that perform THEMSELVES and for no damn reason. So it is YOU who accepts magic. //Second of all nothing created itself, it was there before the big bang and merely took on a different form afterwards due to changing conditions.// Wrong, the universe had a beginning. Matter decays, he sun will die, stars will die and at some point the heat death of the universe will cause reality to cease. Everything has an expiration dates and thus...it had a BEGINNING, a point where none of it existed. Where there is an END, there is always an ultimate BEGINNING. And before everything began there was nothing. Time, space and matter all began and the cause cannot be made of them or bound to them, since a thing cannot make ITSELF before it existed to so anything. This cause needs to be not bound to the laws and outside of known reality and all powerful to bring it all forth. Only our creator meets all the requirements. Plus, the cause must be intelligence in order to build a reality based on absolutes such as logic, truth, morality, reason, rationality, good and evil. Blind process known NOTHING of these things. These are immaterial and eternal entities that require a mind as the source. A reality void of universal absolutes cannot exist. You lose.
@@voiceoftruth2646 your "creator" doesn't prove anything. Aaron ra has done another video on this excuse. It's call the god of the gaps, witch means "I don't know how that works, therefore GOD". Just because we haven't figured it out entirely, it doesn't God did it. Now onto morality. It did not come from nothing. As a social species, we evolved to be kind and helpful to eachother otherwise our bad deeds would get them rejected and exiled from a the group/tribe. Even a selfish simpleton know "if I hurt friend, friend hurts me. Me not like being hurt. Me should not hurt friend." This is then taught to the children and we learn not to do bad things. Let's move onto random changes having an effect. Evolution, which has been PROVEN MULTIPLE TIMES FOR YEARS, is when random mutations lead to mutual and/or beneficial changes. If a bad mutation happens, then they die and do not spread it. If a good change happens, they live on to spread it. It's simple science, not magical religion.
If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.
+HConstantine Christians gift the term scholar to anyone who can quote a few passages of the bible. Unlike any theist, Carrier has evidence to back his position. That there is room for doubt, is because the life of "the most important person to walk the earth" is devoid of any marks of his passing. As a true messiah seeking to influence the world would.
Damn Aron, didn't you know that the divine compass (no GPS yet :D ) was "broken" because baby Jesus (who hadn't yet been sent to earth) put a magnet on it for shits and giggles? :D
Because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the thing's that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools. Romans 1:19-22
*eVOLUTION LIES EXPOSED* A Most intriguing extrapolation from the endless series of contradictions is reference to the ability to reason ,when if an organism is just the product of an assemblage or accumulation of replication errors by accident then so would be thoughts.
Even if that was true, so what? It would be a conclusion that the evidence points to. If you reject it just because you don't like it, you're irrational and intellectually dishonest. One of the things believers say very, very often is "But if you're right, then ____!" That is not an argument. That's just fear.
@@Jeshua1737 Someone saying something is not "preaching". But first organisms could have easily arisen from non living matter seeing how that was literally accomplished in different experiments.
Ha ha. He mentions supernova. Add that to climate change and why live? When you only understand half of what you are talking about and that half is all based on lies, you get an Aron Ra speech.
+John Gallagher When you only understand 25% of what you are talking about, but try to have it passed into law anyway. You have a christian. Science will back up every factual claim Aron makes, whilst religion has only: god is true because... Jesus Jesus is true because... bible bible is true because... god god is true because... bible bible is true because... Jesus Jesus is true because... god (oh and the power of the baseless ad hominem)
Ha. Science is no different from religion--what you don't realize is that it's the new religion. Science has fake answers, lies. It acts as a substitute for religion and that is all. In Ben Stein's interview of Richard Dawkins, he falls a sleep about 3x and still manages to get Dawkins to admit that their could be an intelligent designer--it just can't be "God" according to Dawkins. they are liars and charlatans pretending to have answers.
+Nev Anderson the trap you guys always fall into is assuming that people who think the science is BS necessarily believe in religious or bible explanations. The reality is that neither provides any hard proof, and both science and religion essentially come from men. Ask yourself why so many scientists and astrophysicists still believe in God as they spew nonsense about big bangs. It's because science has no idea how the world came into existence or what force caused it. Forget about why.
"you only understand 25% of what you are talking about, but try to have it passed into law anyway" You mean like climate change moralists?. I have a feeling you don't know that the new "liberals" are exactly like the old christian right.
@@matsumoku1 The reason Dawkins says that is because it is logically impossible to prove a negative. He's simply being intellectually honest. The reason he says it's not God (as in, the God of the bible) is because the idea of a biblical God is internally inconsistent and because certain core claims of the bible have been found to be impossible to be true.
Your are brilliant but your wisdom is rubbish, you don't even know the origin, and one question is who gives life of those animals, what about the tree, plants, are they also under evolution, from tree turns to flower, from 🌹 rose turns to leaves, funny evolution..if you are really have a capability to excavate things then you can explain where does the life come from. Even yourself you can ask questions, why do you have life?. Why are you alive? Even animals, trees, all living things. Can you explain it.
Oh come on god of the gaps and arguments from ignorance mixed with watchmaker . I pose a question what can it possibly matter is we dont know whatever origin you claim. You will I know get mixed up between the big bang, evolution , abiogenasis , space , the universe . You are incapable of distinguishing between dogma and years of research . There is NO NEED AT ALL to ask the why question ! there is no greater purpose apart from to reproduce should you wish to add anything else is a complete waste of your life and time . To attribute life to a great sky fairy with out any evidence is stupidity beyond contempt
Evolution doesn't "turn" things into one another and I'm afraid that you might already know that. Abiogenesis seems to be a good explanation to how life came about, but it's not a scientific theory yet, just a hypothesis.
Yeah There are a host of books which are prolly unknown I.e outside your limited circle of knowledge.---which demonstrate the many miracles which were performed by the early church. Of course you will only believe what you declare to be reason so therefore any rationality you profess is from your own circle of knowledge and therefore it is all just an opinion. We both think each other are nuts. It's faith bast on data dude. deal with it! All your atheism and secular humanism does is to bring death,destruction and hopelessness to the human race.
+Russell K. Bonney "It's faith bast on data dude. deal with it!" Is a complete oxymoron. 1. Faith is belief without evidence 2. Evidence requires no faith 3. Data is not information If you had evidence, there would be no need for religious faith
+Russell K. Bonney "All your atheism and secular humanism does is to bring death,destruction and hopelessness to the human race" Another oxymoron. Atheism is the non acceptance of your claim that god exists (to die from that requires a christian with righteous murder in mind). Secular humanism advocates a life without religion (again: to die from that requires a christian with righteous murder in mind) Explain how death could possibly come from either, without violence being perpetrated by a believer?
+Russell K. Bonney "There are a host of books which are prolly unknown, outside your limited circle of knowledge" There are 130,000,000 books in the world. Which illustrates YOUR limited circle of knowledge. The Quran demonstrates the many miracles which were performed by Mahummad. The Rig Veda also demonstrates many miracles. Of course you will only believe what you declare to be of your god, it exists only via Faith [faith: strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof]
What an absolute joy it is listening to someone like Aron who knows what he’s talking about, and how different it is from listening to the religious who think they know what they are talking about but don’t.
What an absolute joy it is listening to someone like Aron who knows what he’s talking about, and how different it is from listening to the religious who think they know what they are talking about but don’t.
"If religion is right reality has to be wrong."
Man, he's sharp - and funny!
All I can say is, outstanding presentation.
Agreed
YES!, finally someon that introduces him as Aron, not AAron
One of my favorite speakers....thank you for posting
Typical Aron Ra...Absolutely Brilliant!
I love the line regarding reality; if religion is right, then reality is wrong. Another useful quote from Aron!
lucid accurate and telling points . Well observed and a treat to hear such clear and rational thinking much needed in todays anti reality world
this guy! what a guy! what a great guy!
WOW! What a great speach.
Aron Ra for president!!!
President Ra sounds awesome AF
Who’s the world going to revolve around when I’m gone? Will be my last words.
The time after death is exactly the same as the time before birth.
ajs1031 Arrested development.
Could be life after death, even before it! But no god involved. All would be natural and possible. Mythology, humankind can do without. Humankind...be happy. Believe in yourselves. Not super magical claptrap. Just be and learn from the sciences.
Stephan Williams Could be, should be, would be...but it still be BS.
It's fantasy and an appeal to ignorance...classic appeal to ignorance.
Dawkins said there could be giant teapot in the sky, and it's still up to those claiming it to prove it, not simply appeal to ignorance.
I am a fan of Richard Dawkins. His book the god delusion is very good.
Stephan Williams Yep, delusions of life before and after death is what you have.
Making some claim doesn't make it possible nor probable and certainly doesn't fit with any know facts.
There are these little things called the Laws of Nature, and they can't be suspended to accommodate some appeal to ignorance, not even your own, of course.
This was absolutely brilliant. Mr Ra, you're a very intelligent man and your delivery in this video was fantastic. I enjoyed the humour too. One of the best videos I have ever seen on this topic.
The hateful and violent comments of the “religious” here are an excellent reason for dumping any religion and adopting atheism, which seems to be humane and generous towards humanity
Guy is brilliant together with biggests: Dawkins Hitchithens Harris Ehrman .👍
40 years wandering in the wilderness when the life expectancy was in the low 30's.
No vaccines for kids, medicine, fruits and vegetables during all seasons. I smashed my thumb at the door and it didn't gangrened because local twin surgeons, took care of it. Imagine that, back in the past
"AA-ron. Where are you at, AA-ron?"
36:20
"The only meaning your life will ever have is what your involvement means to someone else."
Amen to that! :-D
26:25
Ken Ham: were you there?
Response: Yes.
Ken Ham: I don't believe you.
Response: Prove me wrong.
+Robert Porritt Unfortunately many of us are too intellectually honest to do that.
+That guy... intellectually honest or not, that comeback can show how hollow Ham's favorite line is. Apologists love to use it as a shot across the bow. If nothing else, it's _rude_ to argue the way Ham does.
+Shane Wilson It's to show how illogical their "prove god doesn't exist" argument is. If they see that they can't prove he wasn't there and say they don't have to, then hopefully they'll realize those same stipulations apply to us.
I work for Ken Ham. He is currently unavailable and just counting some cash. god bless.
+wolfumz More than that it is IDIOTIC to argue that way. He was very likely not at the marriage of his parents, yet believes they WERE married (or maybe they are still alive, don't know, don't really care). He can't remember his own birth yet will fully believe all claims made about it... mother, probably father, time, place and if any were told to him other circumstances of it, e.g. how they got to the hospital or how long it took until the first ass slap of his life.
He was neither there when Jesus died nor when Moses came down from Mount Sinai yet he instantly believes the book report about it. He wasn't there when a council decided what belongs in his bible and what not, he wasn't there when the oral traditions were first put into writing or when the english bishops sat down to make the King James Version translation yet he accepts all of that as true and base of his life and beliefs.
And he especially was not there when allegedly the global flood created the Grand Canyon as he is so fond of rattling down in a long ago learned by heart explanation for his stance, yet he tells ad nauseam about it, so where's the difference? HE takes so much at face value despite not having been there. But i SCIENCE does it, he claims it's not proof because they were not there? Look, a hypocrite!
I like this Man!
this is my favorite video of Aron's because; 1) he mentions the chronodrone which is one of my favorite thought experiments to think about when I'm daydreaming at work. its gratifying to know that other people think like that. 2) he is the 1st of the Unholy Trinity I have heard mention Tim fucking Minchin.
I like the lecture, and Aron Ra.
Excellent talk
Aron for President
+rammsteinrulz16 Aron for Bigfoot.
He'll only get away with that with a cross around his neck.
The only question I have when asked if I want to watch Aron-Ra is: How is the audio?
Lol
When I ask someone to back it up as they be like read that book, an I'm like doesn't prove it still. To believe is to fear an NOT understand it what so ever, only hear what they want you to hear. WOW!!!
Not to draw attention to myself but at 0:52 there's me walking in at the bottom left hand corner.
AronRa pretty much always give a good talk but this one was pretty funny as well, I really enjoyed it and so will you!
Tom Leeds Nice shirt
ken smit You can see it better on the talk with Matt Dillahunty
+Tom Leeds Down in front!
+Tom Leeds How was the drink?
Global Rationality The drink? You mean the big cup? It was a 64oz.RazzBerry Icee
And it was GOOOOD
Genius. That is it.
😂 I love the statement: “We’re talking about a genie who can make everything a human cannot make but cannot make anything a human can make.”
If there is something I'm really, really grateful for, it is that I was _never_ [in any 'serious' way] attempted influenced with religious dogma, and that I at the outset was equipped with a neural network making it (literally) _child's play_ following Aron's logical [and eloquent!] train of thought. *Period.*
In _my_ mind, Aron Ra is an _unequivocal_ *force for good* on this royally fucked-up planet! . . .🤘
Love this guy
Life's meaning in enhanced by listening to bach, mozart, Beethoven, wagner, .......
well said
Inspiring as always. Education is the answer. But not apparently in Tex text books!
Intelligent design and evolution/big bang are competing theories. Once this is understood, it is obvious that both should be taught in schools as theories. It is immoral to pass off scientific theories as "facts" and stamp out your competition just because you have control of institutions and textbooks. This is about politics not truth.
Yet another idiot how does not know what a scientific theory is.
Scientific theories explain the facts.
ID is made up crap
@@matsumoku1 Wrong wrong and wrong ! Intelligent design is not a scientific theory it is a statement made from an iron age book of myths . Should schools teach greek mythology as well ? how about Norse mythology as well should we teach that thunder is thors hammer . Should we teach that mustard seeds are the smallest seed ? that bats are birds ? that whales are just big fish ?
Your ignorance is telling the big band is supported by evidence not it suz so in muh buk .
Evolution is a well founded and understood process it follows the evidence it is testable and provable .
Creation whats the evidence of course its in muh 2000 year old Buy Bull sighs
@@gowdsake7103 Evolution and big bang are no more scientific. Something can't come from nothing. They are peddling psuedoscience as real science.
@@matsumoku1 Oh dear here we go again .Something has never been observed coming from nothing therefore its impossible huh ? That is the biggest argument from ignorance that theists come up with . But to cap that you bung in special pleading that god is exempt form that because he she or it is such a special little cupcake . GAWD GONE UN DUN IT is NOT the answer
"What's the meaning of life" well that's up to you, we've big brains and we can find our meaning.
💜💜💜
I defiantly fall under the 'I need to understand' camp....or 'try to understand' ,at least. Since, technically, I don't 'need' to understand. However, my mind simply will not allow for accepting anything on 'faith'. My fear of death plays a big part of this, and I can intellectually admit this. Some people can't cope with the thought of not existing...thus...believing.
I've seen a video of a cat batting around a small mouse and the mouse audibly started squealing at the mouse, almost as though it were begging. The cat looked at the mouse and actually stopped abusing the mouse. I would conclude that the mouse had a VERY strong fear of death. Who the hell wants to die? Even a mouse is afraid to die.
18:54 how I envy you, Aron Ra.
+uncleanunicorn Huh? You want the devil to talk through you?
Urs F oohh yeaahhhh.....
uncleanunicorn oh my goodness, do you actually think this sad hopeless man offers anything positive for the good of man?
@@heydude7568 hey, dude, everybody is fuckin hopeless, it's just a lot of people delude themselves into having more hope than is possible. Hope is cute, but isn't realistic.
@@thetinfoilfreak thats what i said 30 years ago before i genuinely confessed my sins to a God I thought wasnt there but i got to such a place i was willing to forego my 'intellect' you have been told now, and so on that Great Day He returns and if you have not repented before the God Who loves you then it is you who has cast his own eternal fate
The Ramen podcast sounds delicious.
One of Aron's very best presentations. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it's a little scientifically dated concerning the cosmic heat death theory? Regardless, interstellar sized logical genius.
If Jesus showed up in the US...we would deport him
Ray Comfort is already there! please deport this jesus. But don't send to England. We have enough Gareths here.
No, you would shoot him.
+Windwar attack Assimilation of religion is damaging to cognitive abilities
Patrick Kilduff Jesus would also be kicked out of most Christian churches
Total Mass Retain he wasn’t christian, he was Jewish, so yeah on that point most christian/evangelicals would shudder in horror at the sight of a 5’6” ish swarthy middle eastern male person of the Jewish persuasion attempting to infiltrate their hallowed white evangelical haven
"science adjusts its beliefs based on what's observed"
Faith adjusts ist observations based on what's believed
I've watched several of these videos from Gateway to Reason 2015. Did any of the speakers give titles to their talks? It would be a lot more helpful and I think people would be a lot more inclined to click on them if they knew the subject of the talk and not just the speaker's name.
+Guitcad1 No there are no titles, but most people can guess the gist of the content based upon the speaker anyway.
+Guitcad1 Hi on the gatewaytoreason.com website all the videos are posted with their titles. [if they had a title]
Oners82 Maybe I'm just an idiot, but I had no clue as to their topics. I'm familiar with a lot of these people and know most of them to be able to talk intelligently about a wide range of topics.
Guitcad1
For sure, but they all have their favoured topics.
Aron Ra - the stupidity of creationism.
Dilahunty - rational thinking and secular morality.
Dan Barker - the psychology of belief.
I could go on.
Okay.I just wish the titles had the subject of the talk. "Aron Ra - 2015 Gateway to reason" doesn't help me distinguish it from the hundreds of other Aron Ra videos out there.
46:44 The creationist he is talking about that accepted evolution and later went on to marry him is his wife.
Religionists are not quick to give up their assumption of secret magical powers.
You don't need a "chance" to have a sudden death from a healthy state. You can get it on your own like I will. The 2A is a thing.
Was his grandmother born in 1990?
Emergency Room workers refer to motorcycles, as donorcycles.
2:38 You've obviously not met the internet!
Evolution aways gonna evolve too?ever change with the sands of time the new discoveries we make say you are never gonna disprove who created you
AR '15
sorry 1990 he means 1890
I can sense the religious people sneaking around here in the comment section
There's a science fiction book about that. Where everyone can look back in time with a small wormhole. Has anyone read it? I forget what it's called.
I wish I could hear him prove it. I'd like to able to do that. To me it's a proven fact but I've heard creationists deny all kinds of reality.
+Paul TheSkeptic Fund-a-mental means the mandatory rejection of anything that contradicts the delusion
Is the the philip k dick novel? I forget it’s name
@@nicholasjones3207 It might be. I read a lot of Philip K Dick. But I read a lot of books. I'm a trucker and I listen to a lot of audiobooks. Maybe that's enough though. I'll try Google.
Nope. Couldn't find it. Maybe it wasn't Dick.
Okay I found it. It's by Stephen Baxter and Arthur C. Clarke. It's called The Light of Other Days.
Ramen podcast or Ra-man podcast?
Aron Ra should try reading Josephus it explains why the Hebrews took so long annexing Canaan.
I can assure you he has
50:38
So does Aron drink Orange Crush or did someone leave their dang drink on table during his lecture? ;)
H2O water bottle, speakers do appreciate...
Believe is both noun and verb. Like every mental muscle it needs exorcise.
32:23.
Great talk! But his statement at 38:00 is wrong. The number of people alive does not exceed the number of people that have ever died.
+FirstFrontsvin It is not possible to KNOW, only to estimate. Thus it is always a comment of intent of meaning rather than exactness of meaning.
Well, I've noticed that Mormons Ra only focuses on Christianity and will not make and attempt Islam, sciencetolgy, book of mormon or any other faith. Mr. Ra makes valid points but only the faith that will not attack back.
Christianity certainly attacks back.
Aron Ra has dozens of videos addressing the Koran. The Book of Mormon is premised on several claims in the Bible, such as the Tower of Babel and the Resurrection of Christ, so it doesn't need to be singled out for special attack. Scientology isn't trying to teach creationism in public schools and is irrelevant in the larger picture.
It would take centuries to see the Dawn of the Universe?? Bumer, that means that even with a chronodrome we wouldn't be able to cover that, huh!?... u-n-l-e-s-s... we just used another chronodrome covering the actions of the original one!!! Lol. That way we could check it within a few minutes ;-)
Lol, well, on a more serious note, though... AronRa was correct about the dangers of overpopulation. And we *are* dangerously approaching a break point. But things could be even darker than we think, and the answer not as simple as "make less babies". Sure, we could try that. But we seem doomed to fall prey to our *own* technological sophistication [especially in the field of Medicine]. Because our elders can now live longer and longer (without getting any younger, though), and if we contrast that with a world with less and less babies, the ratio takes on a nightmarish scenario. Each working/productive adult will have to create enough richness to support 6 or 7 old retired people. It's impossible. So what should we do? Kill our elderly instead of making less babies? In a world without moral boundaries perhaps, but *not* in the world we've come to create. So what to do? I don't know... and i suspect no one really does.
Well, at least he acknowledges that we should stop breeding. :) That's a better form of extinction than the other one. But that is also acknowledging that life is a bad thing, so idk why it would be "precious".
Actually there were so many people named Jesus crucified during that era...
"Humans are the only species that fears its own death"
What happens when you try to step on a spider and miss? /argument
Matt Jones I'm confused and disappointed that I have to explain that no animals want to die, ergo, fear death. Did you know when farmers put down an animal they try to surprise it because the stress created from fear will make the meat different? You ever step on a crowd of ants? Every predatory non-human animal tries for the element of surprise because the prey will try to evade it. So what in the flying fuck makes you think that any animal doesn't fear death?
Matt Jones the same reason a naturalist does and in the exact same fashion. What evidence do you have to imply any animal doesn't know the reason it does anything? Did you know why your heart beat or your lungs breathe when you were born? I'm assuming you're saying non humans behave entirely on subconscious impulse mechanisms similar to that. Kind of like they're just witnessing their life happen. Or do you not think they're anything more than biochemical machines? I've got an idea that agrees and disagrees with you. Where we disagree is you drawing the line at humans. Do you now agree that non-human animals do fear death?
+Matt Jones I bet if someone watched me look at myself in the mirror half the time they might think the same thing. So now you're saying non-humans don't know what their body is because it seems like they don't realize they are seeing their own reflection in a mirror. therefore they can't fear their death because they don't even know what they are or are we dropping that point? I don't see a difference in you concluding animals have no thought and people narrating their young children as if they can read their mind or describing the emotions of their pets. I'm sure vegans and PETA would disagree with you. But I'm probably not going to make you think any different about your firsthand witness to those viral animals in mirror videos.
Matt Jones Because being able to comprehend what a mirror is and it's mechanics is in no way related to knowing about dying...
+killax1000 "... being able to comprehend what a mirror is ..." Most animals can't understand a mirror, but I have seen one or two cats of mine that were able to figure it out, but only if I were with them in the mirror.
Cats have no concept of death. While burying victims of accident or disease, they show a passing interest in the deceased and the process of digging it's grave, after which they have waited patiently for me to be done with the task and free to attend to them.
As for fearing death, the 'fight or flight' instinct in no way indicates a fear of the possible future state of death. Even humans still exhibit this instinctual mechanism, which is automatic. No consideration of consequences is needed to invoke it.
To fear death, one must understand what it is. One must have a comprehension of the future and an ability to think with abstraction. Most animal lack these abilities.
Lost for "40" Years! So are you telling me that my GPS unit on my Smartphone is Smarter then God?? Hahaha
A GPS in a difference language with a broken screen would still be better than...*cough,cough*"...GODS SUPREME GUIDANCE'S!
Or... you could just use the monitor on Mr. Peabody's WABAC machine to instantly see stuff going on in the past. Not that you would tell Mr. Peabody you were going to use it to be a pervert. Mr. Peabody might object. The spoilsport.
"Oh yeah. So fine, so fine. Finer than wine."
(Insert here pervert heavy breathing.)
used to think i was reptillian~but im prolly jaguar
I have known our Creator for 36 years now and His name is not Jesus. He used many people called prophets and saints to speak for Him, including the one who is writing this post.
Pfffft.
When functioning on behalf of (Grand)Mother music, always the truth is said. Anything else would not be acceptable.
The Prime Directive... *(Grand)Mother Music must be given the honor and respect that is Her due* .
And the Prime Directive applies to everywhere across the board in all the universes, hyper-dimensions, and whatnot. No exceptions, no exemptions, no waivers, no excuses.
Rock the cosmos! Make the musicverse shake, shake, rattle and roll.
Be hefty, hefty, hefty and not wimpy, wimpy, wimpy.
Music is the soundtrack of Eternity.
Evolution by means of blind and mindless processes isn't the gateway to reason.
@The Dude Stop equivocating.
@The Dude Intelligent Design is not anti-evolution. ID posits that organisms were intelligently designed with the information and ability to evolve and adapt. Evolution by means of intelligent design, ie telic processes. Genetic algorithms exemplify evolution by means of telic processes.
@The Dude What is your evidence that blind and mindless processes produced error detection and error correction?
@The Dude That isn't evidence that blind and mindless processes produced error detection and error correction.
@The Dude What questions?
When I was a kid, I wondered why jesus didn't tell us pockets would be a good idea. Those robes just didn't look practical to me.
+Jeff B LoL.. he obviously didn't want to give away the secret of where he was hiding the miracle fairy dust. :-)
I guess he was showing that one could live and make great friends without worrying about what material things you need to take with you every day to show-off to your neighbors.
+Phillip Shearman Being christian is a barrel of laughs though, isn't it. Except for the callouses on the knees and everything even close to fun being a sin
17:11 "If you want to understand you need to reject faith. Because faith is auto-deceptive..."
Brew 11 - "Now reification of Hope is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. 2 For by it the people of old received their commendation.
3 By reification of Creativity we understand that the universe was created by the reified Creativity, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.
4 By reification of Altruism Abel offered to reified Altruism a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, reified Altruism commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his reification of Sacrifice, though he died, he still speaks.
5 By reification of Life Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because reified Life had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased reified Life.
6 And without reification of Morality it is impossible to please reified Morality, for whoever would draw near to reified Morality must believe that reified Morality exists and that reified Morality rewards those who seek reified Morality."
...and so on.
Definition of REIFY- transitive verb
: to regard (something abstract) as a material or concrete thing
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reify
The category 'Moral Absolute' is an empty category.
Unless you're a Moralist, in which case you just give it a capital letter and plonk anything you like into it; Truth, Love, Justice, Spaghetti...
+differous01 What are you talking about? You start with faith, follow it up with a load of who knows what, and end with moral absolutes. WTF???
However not a single one of your modified quotes is a reification fallacy if that is supposed to be your point.
Oners82 "not a single one of your modified quotes is a reification fallacy" because....?
differous01 Because you are taking the quotes completely out of context. These ideas are not being treated as physical objects, they are being referred to as what they are, concepts.
As an analogy, if I say to a kid, "Get a good education because if you grow up to be stupid you won't get a good job", according to you I am reifying both "education" and "stupid", which is clearly nonsense.
An actual reification fallacy would be to say something like, "Love exists therefore who created love." That is a fallacy because love is an abstract concept and hence is not something that is created.
But none of your quotes commits this fallacy.
For example 3. is just acknowledging an attribute of god, not a physical object, 4. refers to how we should help others, again altruism is not being portrayed as a physical object.
I could go on but you get the point.
Oners82 "3. is just acknowledging an attribute of god, not a physical object,"
Well, I am glad you acknowledge that god is not a real thing, but there are those who do believe that it is.
For them, to make creativity an attribute of God IS to reify creativity.
But creativity is a characteristic of Man, and we create God, not the other way around.
differous01 I didn't say that god isn't a real thing, again you are taking things out of context. My point was that CREATIVITY is not being reified, it is being treated as an aspect of god's character.
"For them, to make creativity an attribute of God IS to reify creativity."
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If you are merely saying that a property is an aspect of an agent's character, whether it be creativity, love or anything else then by definition you are NOT reifying it. You are acknowledging it for what it really is, a personal trait.
I mean just think about what you're saying. If it was genuinely an attempt at reification in that verse then it would be saying that god created creativity, which is a self contradictory proposition. Not even theists are that stupid.
I agree with your last point.
When you believe things ''MAGICALLY'' create themselves and call this a gate to ''reason'', you're beyond mental help!!!
First of all you believe in a God who performs miracles, so which of us believes in magic? Second of all nothing created itself, it was there before the big bang and merely took on a different form afterwards due to changing conditions.
@@rollochairbreaker230 //First of all you believe in a God who performs miracles, so which of us believes in magic?//
And you believe in miracles that perform THEMSELVES and for no damn reason. So it is YOU who accepts magic.
//Second of all nothing created itself, it was there before the big bang and merely took on a different form afterwards due to changing conditions.//
Wrong, the universe had a beginning. Matter decays, he sun will die, stars will die and at some point the heat death of the universe will cause reality to cease. Everything has an expiration dates and thus...it had a BEGINNING, a point where none of it existed. Where there is an END, there is always an ultimate BEGINNING.
And before everything began there was nothing. Time, space and matter all began and the cause cannot be made of them or bound to them, since a thing cannot make ITSELF before it existed to so anything. This cause needs to be not bound to the laws and outside of known reality and all powerful to bring it all forth.
Only our creator meets all the requirements. Plus, the cause must be intelligence in order to build a reality based on absolutes such as logic, truth, morality, reason, rationality, good and evil. Blind process known NOTHING of these things. These are immaterial and eternal entities that require a mind as the source. A reality void of universal absolutes cannot exist. You lose.
Have the integrity to at least learn what you are talking about. There is nobody who says something from nothing except religionists.
@@voiceoftruth2646 your "creator" doesn't prove anything. Aaron ra has done another video on this excuse. It's call the god of the gaps, witch means "I don't know how that works, therefore GOD". Just because we haven't figured it out entirely, it doesn't God did it.
Now onto morality. It did not come from nothing. As a social species, we evolved to be kind and helpful to eachother otherwise our bad deeds would get them rejected and exiled from a the group/tribe. Even a selfish simpleton know "if I hurt friend, friend hurts me. Me not like being hurt. Me should not hurt friend." This is then taught to the children and we learn not to do bad things.
Let's move onto random changes having an effect. Evolution, which has been PROVEN MULTIPLE TIMES FOR YEARS, is when random mutations lead to mutual and/or beneficial changes. If a bad mutation happens, then they die and do not spread it. If a good change happens, they live on to spread it. It's simple science, not magical religion.
@@voiceoftruth2646 You're one sad confused little man.
If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.
And by NT schoalrs he means Carrier...Jesus!
+HConstantine Christians gift the term scholar to anyone who can quote a few passages of the bible. Unlike any theist, Carrier has evidence to back his position. That there is room for doubt, is because the life of "the most important person to walk the earth" is devoid of any marks of his passing.
As a true messiah seeking to influence the world would.
Was the presenter in the beginning drunk? What was with floozy introduction.?
Damn Aron, didn't you know that the divine compass (no GPS yet :D ) was "broken" because baby Jesus (who hadn't yet been sent to earth) put a magnet on it for shits and giggles? :D
They went into the desert then enslaved everyone there then came back and conquered can an aka philistia the Greek colony there
Lower end of modern human brain size?... Oh, flat earthers and creationist's
Also throw the anti-vaxers in that list.
Because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the thing's that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools. Romans 1:19-22
A quote from some random book. So?
Ha ha ha do you know the difference between invisible and non existence ? fuck all ! god screwed right there !
O good grief🤪😳🥴🙄😵🤬
Do please go away. Go find a bible to thump. work on your knee calluses, I’m sure you would be very proud of them
The irony of a man speaking for God accusing others of foolishness.
@@youtubezcy Simply delivering the word of truth.
Homo... erectus... 🙃
*eVOLUTION LIES EXPOSED*
A Most intriguing extrapolation from the
endless series of contradictions is
reference to the ability to reason ,when
if an organism is just the product of an
assemblage or accumulation of replication
errors by accident then so would be thoughts.
+Don K Why do christians insist on arguing Evolution, when they patently have not one clue what it is?
AND have no intention of ever finding out?
Even if that was true, so what? It would be a conclusion that the evidence points to. If you reject it just because you don't like it, you're irrational and intellectually dishonest.
One of the things believers say very, very often is "But if you're right, then ____!" That is not an argument. That's just fear.
Yes, thoughts are a result of chemical processes in your brain. Go back to school.
@@djjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
Art thou Preaching that organism are chemically arranged garbage by mistake?
@@Jeshua1737 Someone saying something is not "preaching". But first organisms could have easily arisen from non living matter seeing how that was literally accomplished in different experiments.
Nice forced applause and other reactions. There's a guy you people obsess over who is always acclaimed as doing the same.. 🤔
Ha ha. He mentions supernova. Add that to climate change and why live? When you only understand half of what you are talking about and that half is all based on lies, you get an Aron Ra speech.
+John Gallagher When you only understand 25% of what you are talking about, but try to have it passed into law anyway. You have a christian.
Science will back up every factual claim Aron makes, whilst religion has only:
god is true because... Jesus
Jesus is true because... bible
bible is true because... god
god is true because... bible
bible is true because... Jesus
Jesus is true because... god
(oh and the power of the baseless ad hominem)
Ha. Science is no different from religion--what you don't realize is that it's the new religion. Science has fake answers, lies. It acts as a substitute for religion and that is all. In Ben Stein's interview of Richard Dawkins, he falls a sleep about 3x and still manages to get Dawkins to admit that their could be an intelligent designer--it just can't be "God" according to Dawkins. they are liars and charlatans pretending to have answers.
+Nev Anderson the trap you guys always fall into is assuming that people who think the science is BS necessarily believe in religious or bible explanations. The reality is that neither provides any hard proof, and both science and religion essentially come from men. Ask yourself why so many scientists and astrophysicists still believe in God as they spew nonsense about big bangs. It's because science has no idea how the world came into existence or what force caused it. Forget about why.
"you only understand 25% of what you are talking about, but try to have it passed into law anyway" You mean like climate change moralists?. I have a feeling you don't know that the new "liberals" are exactly like the old christian right.
@@matsumoku1 The reason Dawkins says that is because it is logically impossible to prove a negative. He's simply being intellectually honest. The reason he says it's not God (as in, the God of the bible) is because the idea of a biblical God is internally inconsistent and because certain core claims of the bible have been found to be impossible to be true.
Aaron brother please stop decieving people
You are delusional
Says the guy who believes in talking donkeys
Your are brilliant but your wisdom is rubbish, you don't even know the origin, and one question is who gives life of those animals, what about the tree, plants, are they also under evolution, from tree turns to flower, from 🌹 rose turns to leaves, funny evolution..if you are really have a capability to excavate things then you can explain where does the life come from. Even yourself you can ask questions, why do you have life?. Why are you alive? Even animals, trees, all living things. Can you explain it.
Oh come on god of the gaps and arguments from ignorance mixed with watchmaker .
I pose a question what can it possibly matter is we dont know whatever origin you claim. You will I know get mixed up between the big bang, evolution , abiogenasis , space , the universe . You are incapable of distinguishing between dogma and years of research .
There is NO NEED AT ALL to ask the why question ! there is no greater purpose apart from to reproduce should you wish to add anything else is a complete waste of your life and time . To attribute life to a great sky fairy with out any evidence is stupidity beyond contempt
All you've managed to do is prove you know nothing about science, so take your ignorance and go hang out with the other ignorants.
Word salad
At least he is trying and not just making shit up.
Evolution doesn't "turn" things into one another and I'm afraid that you might already know that. Abiogenesis seems to be a good explanation to how life came about, but it's not a scientific theory yet, just a hypothesis.
Mr Ra speaks lies and wouldn't even know what reason is!
mmm
Yeah There are a host of books which are prolly unknown I.e outside your limited circle of knowledge.---which demonstrate the many miracles which were performed by the early church. Of course you will only believe what you declare to be reason so therefore any rationality you profess is from your own circle of knowledge and therefore it is all just an opinion.
We both think each other are nuts. It's faith bast on data dude. deal with it!
All your atheism and secular humanism does is to bring death,destruction and hopelessness to the human race.
+Russell K. Bonney "It's faith bast on data dude. deal with it!" Is a complete oxymoron. 1. Faith is belief without evidence 2. Evidence requires no faith 3. Data is not information
If you had evidence, there would be no need for religious faith
+Russell K. Bonney "All your atheism and secular humanism does is to bring death,destruction and hopelessness to the human race" Another oxymoron. Atheism is the non acceptance of your claim that god exists (to die from that requires a christian with righteous murder in mind). Secular humanism advocates a life without religion (again: to die from that requires a christian with righteous murder in mind)
Explain how death could possibly come from either, without violence being perpetrated by a believer?
+Russell K. Bonney "There are a host of books which are prolly unknown, outside your limited circle of knowledge" There are 130,000,000 books in the world. Which illustrates YOUR limited circle of knowledge.
The Quran demonstrates the many miracles which were performed by Mahummad.
The Rig Veda also demonstrates many miracles.
Of course you will only believe what you declare to be of your god, it exists only via Faith [faith: strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof]
What an absolute joy it is listening to someone like Aron who knows what he’s talking about, and how different it is from listening to the religious who think they know what they are talking about but don’t.