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  • Former Sheffield Wednesday and Leeds Utd midfielder Carlton Palmer shares his views on Matt Le Tissier and his lack of ambition, in an episode of League of Legends with Adam Carruthers.
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  • @antonfenech
    @antonfenech ปีที่แล้ว +322

    People fall in love with the beautiful game because of players like Le Tissier, not Carlton Palmer.

    • @dread4836
      @dread4836 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      exactly

    • @hi0u91e9
      @hi0u91e9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      People love football cos it can be played so many different ways and that great teams need different types of players with diverse skill sets. Seems to me that Le Tissier picked this fight, not Palmer.

    • @yippyialeftside8351
      @yippyialeftside8351 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should stick to sticking his trap to under water in people's baths

    • @piplee1439
      @piplee1439 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      True but Palmer is right... Matt was unfit

    • @yippyialeftside8351
      @yippyialeftside8351 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@piplee1439 yes but fit or unfitl still capable of winning a match in the 90s especially

  • @PaulBronco1
    @PaulBronco1 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    No one scored goals like Le Tissier an absolute pleasure to watch and equally a great man who sticks to his guns and can't be bought. There's not many like him left.

  • @The_establishment72
    @The_establishment72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Nobody will ever remember Carlton Palmer, le Tissiers goals will be watched for decades and decades

    • @tylerdordon99
      @tylerdordon99 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True I'm not from England so Le Tiss is even less famous here but I've been doing the lord's work, spreading the gospel. Every person I show a clip of Le Tissier is left gobsmacked by the sheer beauty and genius of what they just witnessed. Instant converts. Watching their reactions is priceless.

    • @llewvincent7537
      @llewvincent7537 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree with Carlton here - he made the most of his ability and will never look back in anger, he achieved more than he could have ever expected. Le Tissier is like the Alan Hudsons, Frank Worthingtons, Duncan McKenzies, Tony Curries, Rodney Marshes, Stan Bowles, etc. etc. never played for big teams, never won anything but never the less entertained us all and we have good memories of them all and no doubt they are all wondering "what if my ship came in and I played for a top 4 team? What would I have achieved and what would my life be like?". Carlton Palmer over-achieved given his God given talents but Le Tissier just enjoyed being a big fish in a small pond and being hero-worshipped on a local rather than a Global scale.

    • @honeybadger9425
      @honeybadger9425 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well i dunno about that Palmer got voted into the worst ever England eleven for good reason he got highlights for different reasons 🤣

    • @abdikadirahmed9540
      @abdikadirahmed9540 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@llewvincent7537 absolutely spot on mate

    • @alexandervicero
      @alexandervicero 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who the *u*k is Carlton Palmer?

  • @garyfryer5334
    @garyfryer5334 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Matt Le Tissier has proven over the last few years what type of man he is!! He wouldnt sell his soul to the tv companies!!

    • @timcomley5948
      @timcomley5948 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙄

    • @LucianaShadow
      @LucianaShadow ปีที่แล้ว +7

      …you know he’s on GB News all the time?

    • @garyfryer5334
      @garyfryer5334 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackcoffeenow1733 I wish we did have a Right Wing then you would choke!! Proper right wing would have already destroyed the loonies!

    • @garyfryer5334
      @garyfryer5334 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LucianaShadow Yeh! Only place you can hear the truth and even they are a load of bollocks!

    • @billb7876
      @billb7876 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Worth seeing his shows if you can

  • @horseracingstuff
    @horseracingstuff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    Most people are wondering how Carlton Palmer played for England at all.

    • @recruitmentch
      @recruitmentch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Whilst Le Tissier played how many games at Euro's or world cups?

    • @horseracingstuff
      @horseracingstuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@recruitmentch He wasn't the managers.

    • @recruitmentch
      @recruitmentch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@horseracingstuff what??

    • @horseracingstuff
      @horseracingstuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@recruitmentch He wasn't the managers of the England team. Blame them.

    • @recruitmentch
      @recruitmentch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@horseracingstuff Blame? Yes...why don't you pick this guy. He isn't fit, sometimes doesn't turn up for training and hardly runs. Real international quality.

  • @thomaschulze
    @thomaschulze ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Me as a German football fan will always remember Le God and his unique goals. Who was Palmer again?!

    • @mark.lawrence
      @mark.lawrence ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exactly...

    • @mdg1867
      @mdg1867 ปีที่แล้ว

      A player who won trophies.

    • @colingeddes2172
      @colingeddes2172 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mdg1867 to my knowledge palmer has ZERO trophies won.

    • @mdg1867
      @mdg1867 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@colingeddes2172 You're right, my mistake. I incorrectly thought that Palmer won the league cup with Wednesday in 91, but he didn't join until 93.

    • @mikesmith1485
      @mikesmith1485 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mdg1867 Arrogant idiot.

  • @cbak12sg
    @cbak12sg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    The Spanish duo of Xavi and Iniesta said they were inspired by Le Tissier. I trust their opinion over a man lucky to get one international cap.

    • @davepoke
      @davepoke 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Mark Sesum, actually he over achieved by being superb in a very average club

    • @hueyfreeman1983
      @hueyfreeman1983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@davepoke he could have been alot better so he under achieved

    • @davepoke
      @davepoke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hueyfreeman1983 he could've been a hell of a lot worse like Palmer, and if he was so bad like you say he is then your statement makes even less sense as this awful player kept Southampton up season after season, which would make him a massive over achiever

    • @k.gibson7376
      @k.gibson7376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@davepoke anyone saying le tiss over achieved is completely clueless.

    • @davepoke
      @davepoke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@k.gibson7376 I'm sure there's a children's forum somewhere kid where your views will be respected, but not here where adults are talking

  • @ifedhimspaghetti
    @ifedhimspaghetti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Carlton’s opinion is more generous than the one we expected after reading the title of this video. “I’ve had a better career... so he has underachieved.” He’s pointing out that Le Tissier was the more talented player.

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is a man talking about a man he didn't like and didn't understand. I clicked on this because it had the words Le Tissier in the title. Carlton Palmer did well with what he had and will be forgotten by all but those who know him. Le Tissier seemed sometimes to be from another dimension and will be loved by thousands and thousands for decades to come. The bitterness of Palmer will not alter that.

  • @The1Floyd
    @The1Floyd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    It's funny, you hear pundits consistently complain that players should be more loyal to clubs, that there is no loyalty anymore.
    Then you hear people constantly asking players like Le Tissier and Shearer being accused of lacking ambition because they were happy playing for the team they support.
    Come on, they should be applauded. Le Tissier himself has said, he was just a young lad from Guernsey happy to be playing football professionally. You can't knock him being honest about that, he just didn't care about trophies.

    • @frankmachin5438
      @frankmachin5438 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The1Floyd Shearer wasn’t lazy.

    • @zizoushifty1483
      @zizoushifty1483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought Newcastle weren't bad when Shearer played for them.

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly.

    • @eggfriedrice4495
      @eggfriedrice4495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yea but shearer could of gone Man Utd in prime Ferguson era and won everything in club football in europe and didn’t because he wanted to play for the team he loved

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@eggfriedrice4495 Same with Le Tissier it wasn't lack of ambition it was loyalty.

  • @andyfrary5492
    @andyfrary5492 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Matt is still a legend I had actually forgotten about him and I’m a Norwich fan love Matt for his honesty

  • @williamthompson2941
    @williamthompson2941 6 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    I am a Pompey fan, but I know which one I would have built a team around.

    • @antonyevans9772
      @antonyevans9772 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Can't believe I upvoted a Pompey fan ;)

    • @haskeldinho12345
      @haskeldinho12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@antonyevans9772 nor can I

    • @SuperPeakey
      @SuperPeakey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fair do’s to you, must of been hard writing that, respect.

    • @Stefanhaukur1998
      @Stefanhaukur1998 ปีที่แล้ว

      And that would be Palmer right?

  • @alexchristodoulou
    @alexchristodoulou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’m not watching football, and I ended up watching this because I couldn’t stop watching Tissier’s videos. History determines the great players, not paychecks or staristics.

  • @DM_Andy
    @DM_Andy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    00:28 Carlton says that Southampton were eight points adrift when he joined the Saints. That statement is false. Carlton joined Southampton on 23rd September 1997, seven games into the season, bottom with four points, in 19th place was Sheffield Wednesday with five points. Maybe he means eight points away from safety but in 17th place was Barnsley on six points. So if Carlton's misremembering things that much, how much does that make his other comments credible?

    • @martinworld7214
      @martinworld7214 ปีที่แล้ว

      that statement is correct though . 8 points adrift = 8 points from safety not 8 points from the next team . Try again

    • @DM_Andy
      @DM_Andy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@martinworld7214 That statement isn't correct in any way. As I already posted, if Carlton meant 8 points from safety he's still wrong. The team in 17th place was Barnsley on six points. Saints were 20th on four points. That's two points difference which isn't eight. Do you want to try again?

    • @martinworld7214
      @martinworld7214 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DM_Andy you win & apology offered , i didnt read the rest of your post - that said i’m just glad that the scummy pile of turd that is Southampton are currently 6 points adrift :)

    • @GamingRobioto
      @GamingRobioto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@DM_Andy this is very serious. Call the police immediately for this injustice

  • @AK_0000
    @AK_0000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Never confuse loyalty with a lack of ambition

    • @dannyboywhaa3146
      @dannyboywhaa3146 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Totally underrated comment... you can’t win sometimes! 👍

  • @matth2357
    @matth2357 7 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    If these comments came out of the mouth of anyone but Carlton Palmer i'd take them more seriously. He was woeful as a player and only wore an England shirt because Graham Taylor was the only person in the country that rated him!
    As for Le Tissier, his fitness was always questioned, for one thing he was bloody lazy by his own admission! MLT has said a number of times that he never wanted to leave Southampton because his life was in Southampton, why should he go to a bigger club when he was happy where he was - i think that's actually commendable in the modern game! Also, while a lot of other players were getting huge boot sponsorship deals Le Tissier was wearing Quasar boots - but then he could do what he does (when the mood takes him) in flip flops!

    • @gettjerry2362
      @gettjerry2362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No big club would have him. Like Fergie or George Graham would put up with his laziness and narcissism.

    • @mrflynn1205
      @mrflynn1205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@cockoffgewgle4993Narcissism ??? Why ??? Do you even know what that stupid word actually means ?

  • @mikecarr3061
    @mikecarr3061 7 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    An "unfit" Le God was the best player in the league. As for ambition, he was happy at Saints. so why move and be unhappy ?

    • @mikecarr3061
      @mikecarr3061 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yawn,

    • @steventownson6379
      @steventownson6379 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      prick. he passed players as if they were standing still. so much for needing speed, he had skill

    • @FMTCH
      @FMTCH 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great players play for great clubs

    • @mojebi3804
      @mojebi3804 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Great players player anywhere and everywhere.

    • @MattJames1958
      @MattJames1958 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark Sesum And that's the problem with English football

  • @straightouttacornwall
    @straightouttacornwall 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Le Tissier said in recent interview that his 'lack of training/fitness' was a myth. He said he probably trained more than anyone on his team.
    I don't know Matt personally but hes never come across as a liar.
    He was loyal to the club and said he never wanted to leave. I respect him for that.

    • @honeybadger9425
      @honeybadger9425 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You need good fitness to be able to do the flicks over players heads and things Le Tiss did if your not fit your legs feel heavy and it all goes pear shaped so I have no doubt he was very fit.

    • @GM_FtblA
      @GM_FtblA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think Le Tissier was that lazy. You don't score over 200 career goals at senior level and hit well 20 or more league goals in some seasons from midfield for a bottom half of the table club like Southampton... without a bit of effort. Thats unheard of. And btw most of his goals would be bloody goal of the season contenders lol.

  • @George-bi8sj
    @George-bi8sj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Le Tissier was an artist, he created moments that people still talk about today and will still talk about in the future.
    No one talks about Carlton Palmer's moments, he had good stamina, that was about it.

    • @mikesmith1485
      @mikesmith1485 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep. Palmer was a carthorse.

  • @turtleilike
    @turtleilike 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Well I've seen Carlton Palmer telling Gascoigne he's fat and useless and it was only half joking when he said it. He might not be the greatest footballer ever but Carlton Palmer tells it like it is. He should have gone to a big club, he didn't, he was a fucking lazy footballer although his talent was never in doubt (Le Tissier I mean). I think this is the classic clash between the less gifted but hard working footballer against the clearly gifted, lazy as fuck footballer. Would like to have a beer with Carlton Palmer I bet he has some interesting stories and he would not hold back in his telling of it. Interesting guy.

  • @ciancleary4075
    @ciancleary4075 7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Love Matt, but Carlton has a point about Matt's unfitness. Thing is tho, we all knew this anyway. As for the ambition part, do us a favour. Matt will be remembered.

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hence why england will never win a world cup ! fair play to Carlton for calling him out !

    • @mrtoad1408
      @mrtoad1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not sure what your point is? Loads of players were unfit then. Drinking, smoking, bad nutrition and drugs were common. Now every top player is like a thoroughbred.

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mrtoad1408 now we know why Matt le Fattier was always in a relegation battle with SOTON - super unfit ! Fair play to Carlton for calling him out; any person in the workplace no matter how much they are liked by other should pull their weight !

    • @DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek
      @DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek ปีที่แล้ว

      @@truetothegame2928 you have the IQ of a gnat

  • @johnwhite6346
    @johnwhite6346 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Bloody hell Palmer looks the same since 1993

    • @tomrogers7110
      @tomrogers7110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's drinking kids' blood. Matt's just jealous.

  • @zakmcelvenny674
    @zakmcelvenny674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    To be fair, any saints fans that watched the games at the time Palmer signed will remember he had massive impact that season. Even scored a cruyff like volley from the touch line. Became a bit of a fans favourite even though everyone moaned when he signed. Le tis was an unreal talent, saying he lacked ambition is bollocks he simply lived his life how he wanted to but he must have been frustrating to play alongside for a player like Palmer. Best player I've ever watched live

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hence why england will never win a world cup - lazy buggers like Matt ! fair play to Carlton for calling him out !

    • @tylerdordon99
      @tylerdordon99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@truetothegame2928 was it his fault he was never called up?

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MLT lazy lazy lazy, waste of space

    • @stevel9914
      @stevel9914 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@truetothegame2928 so lazy, he scored dozens of goals against top flight teams in the Premier Division.

  • @mitchellpalmer1462
    @mitchellpalmer1462 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The reason he didn't go to a bigger club was because he was loyal to southampton

    • @alfredbillington2141
      @alfredbillington2141 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      he did try to get signed by tottenham but they didn't want him

    • @erickarias3309
      @erickarias3309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@alfredbillington2141 no, he didn't want to move his family to London

    • @maceyj2
      @maceyj2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@alfredbillington2141 incorrect.

    • @spencerglover1
      @spencerglover1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alfredbillington2141 your wrong they wanted him the same as Chelsea and united le tissier didn’t want his family uprooted fair play, he’d have gotten in any team in the premier and most European clubs, Palmer shouldn’t have been playing in the prem he was an horrendous footballer

    • @johnofthesouth5425
      @johnofthesouth5425 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alfredbillington2141 You're wrong, it's actually the other way around. Tottenham very much wanted him and tried to sign him. Le Tissier was a Spurs fan as a boy, so naturally he was welcoming of Spurs' interest in him. Chelsea had made enquiries too. His family didn't want to move to London, so he was happy as Le Tiss himself quoted to remain "a big fish in a small pond".
      He was also very appreciative of Southampton FC for giving him the opportunity to make his dream of being a professional footballer come true, and felt loyal to the fans' endless support for him.

  • @-.Noir.-
    @-.Noir.- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Pretty sure none of us at school shouted carlton the way we shouted Le Tissier whenever we scored a goal, that's all I have to say.

  • @suttyret
    @suttyret 6 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Loyalty and happiness means lacking ambition? Clueless.

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hence why england will never win a world cup - lazy buggers like Matt (plenty of these types in the general workplace too) ! fair play to Carlton for calling him out !

    • @leonleon2276
      @leonleon2276 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it clearly does.

    • @Adlata
      @Adlata ปีที่แล้ว

      @@truetothegame2928 yes Carlton is spot on. he gets slated but he gave 100% playing for the country whilst lazy matt was a cult hero at a small club..

  • @divinity176
    @divinity176 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When people wonder why Graham Taylor was such a maligned England manager instead of the players getting blamed - the answer is often 'because he picked Carlton Palmer'...

  • @roryodwyer4060
    @roryodwyer4060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    “I had a better career than Matt Le Tissier...”
    Stay off the acid Carlton

    • @zizoushifty1483
      @zizoushifty1483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean... Is he that far off?

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did have a better career.

    • @PaulSmith-td1xm
      @PaulSmith-td1xm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How many trophies le tiss win how many trophies did he win how many tournaments did he go to with England not as many as palmer so he did have a better career

    • @lukas_jay243
      @lukas_jay243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trying to remember....what did Le Tissier achieve again?

    • @tpjthethird35
      @tpjthethird35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Was he a better player?... Hell no.
      Did he have a better career?.. Arguably yes.
      Palmer 561 appearances Le Tiss 461.
      Palmer 18 caps, Le Tiss 8
      Palmer 1 International tourney
      Le Tiss 0
      Palmer 1 trophy, Le Tiss 0
      Won't mention goals as 2 different positions so not like for like.

  • @saint1944
    @saint1944 6 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    😂😂😂 Le Tissier was sought after by so many top clubs and instead of saying he "lacked ambition" by staying at Southampton he should get the credit he deserves for being a loyal one club player with respect many modern players don't have👍 Look, if the top clubs were after him that just tells you he was good enough. I think it would have been easier for him to leave and get more money fame ect than stay with a team in a relegation fight every season. But he knew he was needed at Southampton and loved the club👍 You're just jealous because he could afford to train at 50% and still be better than you😂

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hence why england will never win a world cup - lazy buggers like Matt ! fair play to Carlton for calling him out !

    • @chrisjames1905
      @chrisjames1905 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "You've got to ask yourself, why did he not go to a big club?". You don't really need to ask yourself, Carlton, because Le Tissier has been asked this question numerous times, and has answered it numerous times!

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chrisjames1905 Yeah, and Le Tissier is the most reliable source on the subject lol.

    • @chrisjames1905
      @chrisjames1905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cockoffgewgle4993 Well, he simply said that he was happy at Southampton and didn't want to leave. I don't see how anyone could conceivably disagree with this.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisjames1905 Yes, he hasn't said he would have struggled at a top club because he'd actually have had to run and get himself fit. I also haven't really seen him talk about specific transfer offers he turned down.
      He also may not have got to take penalties (although he was very good at them), which accounted for almost half of his goals. I think his record away from home may have been poor as well, I can't find the stats, you'll note most of his great goals were at The Dell. Which was also a tiny pitch on which he didn't have to do much running.
      He didn't even have a cup run or get to a final. While Carlton Palmer got to 2.

  • @TokyoJoe703
    @TokyoJoe703 7 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    You don't build your teams around Carlton Palmers. You build your teams around Matthew Le Tissier's. Tiss doesn't need publicity, he's on the box all the time. This Mong is never on the telly

    • @modsheff1
      @modsheff1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well actually Ron Atkinson built a team around the likes Carlton in the late 80s early 90s for Wednesday and we were a great side between 91/94 competing at the top level in Division one/Premiership.

    • @TokyoJoe703
      @TokyoJoe703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      modsheff1 it wasn’t Carlton Palmer, it was the Waddle’s, Hurst’s and Sheridan’s

    • @potatoface6986
      @potatoface6986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TokyoJoe703 it's no coincidence that Sheridan played his best football alongside Palmer. He did the work of 3 men.

    • @recruitmentch
      @recruitmentch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nobody built teams around Le Tissier. He spent his whole career at a tin pot relegation fodder club. If he was so good, how many times did he play for England at the Euro's and world cups?

    • @TokyoJoe703
      @TokyoJoe703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roz Sa Alan Ball did and they were fabulous times for saints fans

  • @JAYDUB1279
    @JAYDUB1279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I clicked thinking I would dislike the comments but these were lucid, good points. He's saying LeTiss was hugely talented but didn't get enough out. He's saying he himself was talented too, maybe not as talented, but got more out of his career because of his hard nosed attitude and professionalism. Sounds reasonable to me. Oh, and i also agree with Xavi and Iniesta. LeTiss is massively inspiring.

    • @mrtoad1408
      @mrtoad1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saying Carlton Palmer was maybe not as talented as Le Tissier is the understatement of the century.

  • @peanutarbuckle7397
    @peanutarbuckle7397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm a rugger fan from Ireland, god knows why I'm here. I know that Le Tissier is the most beloved Southampton player of all time and is considered one of England's greatest players. I have never heard of Carlton Palmer.

  • @NEWCASTLE.UNITED.
    @NEWCASTLE.UNITED. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Why do people always think player lack ambition if they dont go to a “big” club? Its not as if Southampton are a small club anyway they were playing in the biggest league in the world. Nowt wrong with loyalty.

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hence why england will never win a world cup - lazy buggers like Matt (plenty of these types in the general workplace too) ! fair play to Carlton for calling him out !

  • @dadtube8391
    @dadtube8391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Carlton and others did the running to allow the talents of Le Tissier to shine. Yes, that's called teamwork.

  • @jamesmason8436
    @jamesmason8436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    People attacking Palmer are missing the point. He's not claiming to have been a better player that MLT. What he's saying is a compliment - essentially he's saying that a guy of Le Tissier's talent should have had a better career, and certainly a better career than Palmer himself - and he's completely right!
    Everyone knows he's right, so why the ad hominems?

    • @mechkota
      @mechkota 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. But the problem is that this claim is comming from Palmer. Not from other less talented player with less talent than Le Tisser but have more trophies because he wokred hard.
      Palmer do not have tittles and talent.

  • @Coxy_Wrecked
    @Coxy_Wrecked ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Matt Le Tissier's moments of sheer genius will live long in the memory while most people would rather block the scandal that is Carlton Palmers England career, out of their memory.

  • @downtoearth5443
    @downtoearth5443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Carlton Palmer once remarked that Paolo Maldini "wasn't world class". Just saying

  • @michaelcohen7959
    @michaelcohen7959 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Le 'tis is very well known and one of the greats of the premier league, Carlton palmer was a laughing stock internationally, so how can he say "I've had a more successful career" so he has more cups, but who remembers palmer for being good?

    • @horseracingstuff
      @horseracingstuff 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      At actually he doesn't even have any cups but playing as a losing finalist.

    • @craigeast3682
      @craigeast3682 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wednesday Fans remember him as being a good player and I'm sure L**ds Fans do too.

    • @jamesmason8436
      @jamesmason8436 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@craigeast3682 and Cov fans - he was brilliant for us.

    • @barrycole7081
      @barrycole7081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Carlton who lol. Most young footie fans wouldn't have a clue who he was. I know who he was, just another player with an over inflated ego who thought he was better than he was. Need I say more?

    • @mariolisa2832
      @mariolisa2832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barrycole7081 most young fans don’t know how Tis is either

  • @craigquigley277
    @craigquigley277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I completely agree. And I often watch the numerous "Carton Plamers top 10 goals compilations" on TH-cam🤪🤣

    • @mdg1867
      @mdg1867 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comparing different roles.

    • @danhoppy5517
      @danhoppy5517 ปีที่แล้ว

      Venables, Atkinson, and Keegan were rushing to get the signature of Palmer. Oh, wait a minute...

  • @Coup0705
    @Coup0705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Le Tisser will always be a Southampton legend. His name is etched in their history ball. What is your name again ?

  • @KryptonitetoallBS
    @KryptonitetoallBS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    IMO Matt Le Tissier is one of the most talented English footballers of the modern era alongside Paul Scholes and Gazza. But Palmer is spot on when he says that he was sometimes unfit and he definitely lacked ambition!

    • @matt8978
      @matt8978 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      What's more ambitious than staying at the club you love and trying to single handedly keep them up whilst knowing he won't get many caps because of it? That is showing loyalty that we all moan is not there today yet he's still criticised. Yes he could have been fitter but Tiss is the reason saints survived not CP

    • @matt8978
      @matt8978 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Then you were still in nappies whilst Tiss played because he had just as much talent and his goals/assists per game ratio is better

    • @KryptonitetoallBS
      @KryptonitetoallBS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      UMP- Don't get the hump I'm a huge fan of his BUT he lacked ambition. FACT. Loyalty is a different thing which he showed to Saints no question but IF you are extremely ambitious in whatever field you work you should want to get to the very top to see where you stand. Le Tiss didn't have enough ambition to really go and test himself with and against the very best. Shearer was similar although his main motivation was money!!!

    • @ryanwebb5082
      @ryanwebb5082 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wouldn't put Scholes as greatest ever unless you're a Man Utd fan. Vastly overrated.

    • @KryptonitetoallBS
      @KryptonitetoallBS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ryan Webb:- In just 2 words you destroyed any credibility you have on the subject of football.

  • @MattJames1958
    @MattJames1958 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If Le Tissier was French or Spanish he'd have 50+ caps
    He probably should have said yes when Wales asked him tbh

    • @spencerglover1
      @spencerglover1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly !!!!👍

    • @spencerglover1
      @spencerglover1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely french , Spanish or Dutch he’d have 50+

  • @robbiepeterh
    @robbiepeterh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    When I was a kid and footballers weren’t mega rich, Carlton Palmer used to live down the road from us and he was the nicest guy you can imagine.

    • @barrycole7081
      @barrycole7081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So is Le Tiss

    • @lukas_jay243
      @lukas_jay243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barrycole7081 Le Tiss is a hedonist. He wasted his career.

    • @LikeYayHigh
      @LikeYayHigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lukas_jay243 have you heard Tis say this about himself or are you a long distance mind reader?

    • @mariolisa2832
      @mariolisa2832 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LikeYayHigh why world he say that about himself?

    • @LikeYayHigh
      @LikeYayHigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mariolisa2832 exactly.
      How would you know someone's a hedonist if you don't know them?

  • @harryharrison2633
    @harryharrison2633 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really. I remember CP as a total donkey on the football field, yet MLT was a goal scorer supreme.

  • @DonWan47
    @DonWan47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    100% with Carlton Palmer here. Palmer was an honest grafter who gave his all meanwhile Le Tis was a lazy coward who was content to be a big fish in a small pond.

  • @williamking1905
    @williamking1905 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lol carlton palmer,I dont even need to say anything more

  • @stevemartin7798
    @stevemartin7798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Matt Le Tissier was one of the truly great players, who scored wonder goals, skill imagination,
    he could score from anywhere. There will never be anyone who scores as many wonder goals as Tiss. How he wasn't an England regular we will always wonder, If he was Brazilian he would have been up there with Fat Ron and Ronaldinho, Carlton lovely bloke but limited as a footballer, gave you everything but that was a lot less than Le Tiss gave.

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hence why england will never win a world cup - lazy buggers like Matt ! fair play to Carlton for calling him out !

  • @THECRAZY320
    @THECRAZY320 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many goal of the season competitions did Carlton Palmer win?

  • @ryanm3172
    @ryanm3172 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Le tiss was miles better then you son, jealousy

  • @SuperMillwall
    @SuperMillwall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine slating one of the greatest players England has ever produced LOL. When Le Tissier has received praise from other greats of the game I think I'd take their word over Carlton Palmer...

    • @lokignosis5241
      @lokignosis5241 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said that man, NOLU!

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was he a better player?... no
      Did he have a better career?.. yes he did.
      C.Palmer 561 appearances M.Le Tiss 461.
      C.Palmer international 18 caps; Le Tiss international 8
      caps
      Palmer 1 International tourney
      Le Tiss 0
      Palmer 1 trophy, Le Tiss 0
      Go back to school ya dunce !

    • @SuperMillwall
      @SuperMillwall 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@truetothegame2928 Because appearances, international caps and trophies determines how great of a player somebody is right? I think you're the dunce.
      Are you seriously going to argue that Matt Le Tissier wasn't a better footballer than Carlton Palmer? lol

  • @naughtysummers8631
    @naughtysummers8631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always stick up for Carlton , i saw him at the Bridge (my team) .
    He was MOT.
    Moved to the south coast watched Southampton for 3 seasons, the best memories was watching MLT
    And I've seen the best players who have ever graced the game.

  • @vinay5807
    @vinay5807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I mean y'all this bloke has once said maldini isn't world class 🤣🤣

  • @Maximustard
    @Maximustard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He's got a point, the fact that Palmer isn't fit to lace his boots doesn't detract from his opinion

  • @hovisx19
    @hovisx19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    love listening to Carlton Palmer, he says it as it is, MLT was a much better player than CP but CP maximised himself and MLT didnt. CP was also a much better than player than history suggests, he doesnt get a fair crack because he looked ungainly.

  • @user-tm1mt2vp5p
    @user-tm1mt2vp5p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the first time I saw Carlton play was against Sheffield Wednesday at Sheffield. That was in the nineties I think .I asked my son" who was the lanky colored guy controlling the middle for either Everton or Blackpool cant remember. All I can remember is he earned his money that day.

  • @martinobrien8602
    @martinobrien8602 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Carlton you’re a mug son, you couldn’t lace Matt’s boots.
    He was a class apart on the pitch and again in life after football!!!

  • @Matt-ss1xm
    @Matt-ss1xm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not sure what game Carlton Palmer played, but it never looked the same as the one Le Tissier played. You could replace Palmer with a fence panel in most midfields, and the panel would have better touch.

  • @spanishpeaches2930
    @spanishpeaches2930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's true that Le Tiss did under achieve. He could have gone to a big club and been their Cantona for example. Really great player with sublime skills and scorer of some of the greatest goals of the last 35 years, but he was happy where he was; was catered to and couldn't be arsed to be continually match fit. That said Carlton or Le Tiss...c'mon...

  • @sweep1777
    @sweep1777 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are there any you tube highlights of carlton palmers high points. 🤔

  • @stevens5541
    @stevens5541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think he is right about me tissier.....he was unprofessional and was always overweight and didn't train properly and had no bottle to test himself at the highest level....he had no confidence in himself and wanted to play it safe at a tiny club like Southampton were he was a big fish in a small pond....Carlton Palmer was a rubbish player but is right about this and I would rather have him.in my side than me tissier because at east he always gave his all and was more consistant unlike me tissues who would give you a handful of 9 out of 10s and then several games were you had to check to see if hewason the pitch

  • @dba6607
    @dba6607 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Saints fan here. You could not get two more polar opposite players and personalities than Matt Le Tissier and Carlton Palmer! Both did great for the club and brought different attributes - Matt had the talent and skill, Carlton had the athleticism and work ethic. You can’t compare them.

  • @mickheery6921
    @mickheery6921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    even more of a testament to matt le tissier is that he did the things he did having to put up with non footballers (picked for height and strength )like Palmer who never did anything that anyone will ever remember.

  • @vinceleone5794
    @vinceleone5794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I may be late to this party, but comparing Matt Le Tissier to Carlton Palmer, with all due respect, is like having a nice real Mars bar then having a turd in a wrapper !

    • @patinho5589
      @patinho5589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn’t compare them. He said how the fk did he have a better career than Matt.

  • @spamm0145
    @spamm0145 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Le Tisser's ambition was to entertain and he achieved it in glorious style.

  • @christopherbrando
    @christopherbrando 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    lets be honest carlton, you did not have a better career than le tis... le tis is one of the finest players to ever grace the game, especially as he didnt give a crap - carlton palmer will only ever emerge in conversation accompanied by laughter, bottom line... caps means nothing, le tis' legacy and myth will live on forever...

    • @spencerglover1
      @spencerglover1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true , spot on 👍

    • @truetothegame2928
      @truetothegame2928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was he a better player?... no
      Did he have a better career?.. yes he did.
      C.Palmer 561 appearances M.Le Tiss 461.
      C.Palmer international 18 caps; Le Tiss internationa 8
      caps
      Palmer 1 International tourney
      Le Tiss 0
      Palmer 1 trophy, Le Tiss 0

  • @colinfoster2191
    @colinfoster2191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best comment by Brazilians about Carlton Palmer "how many players do you have injured for him to get a game?"

  • @dresantorini1770
    @dresantorini1770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Matt should be commended for being a one club man, now a days its all about cash and players couldn't care less about the clubs

  • @paul60092
    @paul60092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t think of a worse player to play for England than Carlton Palmer

  • @spencerpratt3817
    @spencerpratt3817 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Le Tiss is my favourite player, but I also loved Carlton Palmer playing for the Saints, I thought he gave everything and you can’t ask for more than that.

  • @chrisking4669
    @chrisking4669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would always have paid good money to see Matt play.
    Wouldn't have opened my curtains to watch Palmer play in my back garden !

  • @bencarter1666
    @bencarter1666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only one of these two will be remembered

  • @haskeldinho12345
    @haskeldinho12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just wondering why Palmer never got approached by a top club? Strange that.

  • @carnalea2424
    @carnalea2424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm reading a lot of comments along the lines of 'if Le Tissier was French, they'd have built their team around him and he'd have won 50 caps.' No, that wouldn't have happened. Players like Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo weren't just gifted players. They were also expected to work hard - and did. I don't remember seeing Zidane stroll around the field. He was a match winner but also worked very hard for his teams. Do you really think Ferguson would have said to Le Tissier: do what you like, you don't have to bother about tackling or defending? I don't think so somehow. Le Tissier knew this I think and knew a lot more would have been expected of him at a club like ManUtd. So he was never interested in leaving Southampton and no big club was ever going to sign him. Yes, I know he scored a lot of amazing goals. I believe he would have been best suited as a substitute - not a first choice - for England. If they were losing and badly needed a goal, bring Le Tissier on and tell him to have some shots at goal. With his shooting ability he could have won games for England. Incidentally, Hoddle gave him his, I think, 8 caps. But even Hoddle didn't really want him in the England team and so only occasionally picked him.

    • @mickheery6921
      @mickheery6921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thing is matt almost single handedly kept Southampton from relegation by being a master of goal scoring.none of those players u mention had even 50% of his skill to turn a game around. they were exceptional but matt was above that none of them ever made that much of an impact.

    • @adrianpeart
      @adrianpeart 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      💯

  • @united6997
    @united6997 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t search for this it just came up . Hand on heart I genuinely thought the thumbnail title was a joke . 1:46 he genuinely says he had a better career than Le Tissier and slags him off for being loyal to Southampton. Le Tissier single handed kept them in the premier league for years

  • @jamesthepeacock1919
    @jamesthepeacock1919 ปีที่แล้ว

    Xavi once said Le Tissier was one of his idols. He never said that about Carlton Palmer.

  • @stevel9914
    @stevel9914 ปีที่แล้ว

    In response to some who criticise Le Tissier... and allege that he underachieved
    You cannot underachieve when scoring goals regularly against top flight teams, dribbling around top flight defenders and beating top flight goalies of international standard. The goals I have seen are well up there with players like Gascoigne and frankly I was more impressed with Le Tissiers efforts. What Gascoigne did achieve is a persistence to do well despite his mental issues. All credit it him for that. The other thing I noticed about Le Tissier is a consistent lack of ego after scoring.. as if to say "well that's what I am paid to do".... despite the goal being of amazing quality and this was defined by commentators and opposing crowds being so entertained they actually clapped and cheered him.

  • @pureevilhotsauce6490
    @pureevilhotsauce6490 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one would click on this vid if le tiss's name wasn't in the title.

  • @Robcatist
    @Robcatist 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loyalty dear boy loyalty that’s why he stayed an attribute that doesn’t exist anymore in football, the reason he didn’t make it as an international is one word Hoddle.

  • @jonhill3328
    @jonhill3328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spot on Carlton 👏🏻

  • @summerbreeze2340
    @summerbreeze2340 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why do people on here start comparing the two players when there is no comparison instead of listening to the points raised then commenting about those. I happen to agree with the points Charlton Palmer has made.Le Tissier with all his talent should have achieved far more in his career!

  • @danielsennett2657
    @danielsennett2657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's wrong with staying loyal. This guy was envious of him and the intention he got in the team

  • @JohnSmithGlobeLie
    @JohnSmithGlobeLie ปีที่แล้ว

    Le God admitted that he was a useless trainer and being part of a football team in that area was all about teamwork, some did the running and others did not, that was commonly accepted rather than it is today with most of the teams all running with a high press closing down the opposition.
    Le god was an amazing footballer and Southhampton was right to play to his strengths. maybe he didn't want to go to a bigger club where he perhaps wouldn't get away with not training like everyone else. Bigger clubs did want him but he stayed loyal to Southhampton.
    And from sticking to his morals and principles especially during and after covid he has gained a huge following for taking a stand and walking away from lucrative contracts as a Sky pundit and speaking his truth.
    He most certainly gets my respect, he was a fabulous talented footballer, but and even better human being.

  • @toph8298
    @toph8298 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Le Tissier may have gone off the deep end but he was a fabulous player. More talent in his big toe than Carlton Palmer ever had.

  • @Mikejames1080
    @Mikejames1080 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well no Carlton isn't as good as Le Tissier. But at the end of the day, Carlton still has a right to tell him he's unfit. I've played for teams where a player can score 30 years free kicks, but can run a lap. Matt shouldn't be ignoring his call either tbf.

  • @arcenside1772
    @arcenside1772 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carlton "the donkey" Palmer I'd forgotten about him. When hall of fame names were asked, one of the first names that came to mind was Matt Le Tissier.

  • @dlbia9569
    @dlbia9569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When people mention Matt le tissier : great technical and skillful player
    when people mention Palmer: who, that joker

  • @phil1758
    @phil1758 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This new generation have probably never heard of Carlton Palmer. They more than likely have heard of Letissier.

  • @jasondowtychristianmusic9401
    @jasondowtychristianmusic9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Better career? But who is remembered and loved. Matt Le Tissier is the best player ever to have played at his club. Others, like Lallana, Bridge, have league winner medals, European trophies, but they aren't really relevant when they retire, much like Carlton (no offence, decent underrated workhorse). Le Tiss on the other hand is football royalty. Who is successful? The ones with dusty pieces of metal in a glass cabinet or someone who lived, enjoyed football, expressed himself and was and is adored?

  • @passerby6168
    @passerby6168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't knock people for not having much ambition, whether or not it's actually true (there are always a myriad of other reasons). If everybody in the world was max ambition there'd already be no world. Some people treat their passage through this world as a learning experience not obtaining experience, and value peace and good times and doing as little harm as possible. Others can be jealous of the light these have inside them. The light that makes them content with what they have so they don't have to always keep looking for more.

  • @stud105
    @stud105 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Le Tiss was just loyal. His character has proven this over the last few years. He would have smashed it at united or neecastle at the time.

  • @PROCESAL3
    @PROCESAL3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think Palmer is probably right. Perhaps Le Tissier could have achieved far more for England if he had been fitter. I think Carlton Palmer recognises that his own talent was modest in international terms, and his point is that Le Tissier, a far, far more gifted player, under -achieved because of his lack of commitment.

    • @shesbaldbutiwould
      @shesbaldbutiwould 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      hes right,le tiss could of gotten so much more out of himself if he stayed in condition but he was comfortable thats part if the reason he stayed at southampton because ge didnt want to work for it he liked to coast

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Palmer is arrogant, claiming he was a "talented" player.

  • @craigsmart1986
    @craigsmart1986 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "I've had a better career than him"
    - the man who has 32 league goals in his entire career.

  • @Superaficokings87
    @Superaficokings87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Obviously Matt it's way ahead of this guy (who i didn't knew until today). Now, he's not saying something that has no sense. He's saying something about Le Tissier that it's true, he was unfit, he didn't liked challenges, he was comfortable where he was. It's not bad thing, and neither is to point that up.

  • @TempusFugit366
    @TempusFugit366 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're struggling to understand social distancing, imagine you just passed the ball to Carlton Palmer. How far you need to be from everyone else is how far the ball will be from him after his first touch.

  • @jameswiglesworth5004
    @jameswiglesworth5004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe he did not go to a big club because he had loyalty to one club,

  • @kingkaranja
    @kingkaranja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve never even heard of this guy

  • @400Awesomo
    @400Awesomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time Matt Le Tissier tweets, one of his goals should be awarded to Ali Dia.

  • @rightsarentwrong5635
    @rightsarentwrong5635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Xavi said his idol was Matt Le Tissier growing up. No one said the same about Palmer. Le Tissier was unfit but still had a far better career than Palmer. Both as a player and a pundit.

  • @waynemarshall8836
    @waynemarshall8836 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Palmer’s right. Le Tissier underachieved, Palmer overachieved and maximised his talent. Was a good player.

  • @dylanmorris5524
    @dylanmorris5524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn’t say Carlton Palmers has had a better career then ale Tisser