Trombone Slide Maintenance for Beginning Band Students
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2013
- In this video, I talk about maintaining your slide by demonstrating the use of Super Slick slide cream, and discussing the use of slide oil.
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Great video, Ms. Schwartz! I'm teaching myself trombone to accompany my youth church ensemble and you've shown me a bunch of things I didn't realize. Thanks again!
Thank you so much for this - Sincerely, a Mom who played flute with a kid who plays trombone and just had strep & flu and needed to give his trombone a bath.
Caution:
It is important to keep the entire instrument very clean; especially the slides. They work better when clean before lubing. ;)
Thank goodness you’re the first video I clicked on! I found this very helpful, as I am in my first year of band.
Same, this will help A LOT!
This was extremely helpful to my son and I! Thank you so very much!
Thanks for a really helpful video! I am a woodwind, but I needed to help my 6th grader grease his slide today.
thank goodness you have a TH-cam channel😇
Excellent lesson. Considering potential for both chemical and particulate contamination, I suggest using distilled water. Really cheap insurance regarding slide maintenance.
I also have a Bach trombone I don’t know what the model is because I bought it used the original owner had it as a student and sold it to my parents who gave it to me. It plays great but another student hit his slide against mine and put a huge dent in the slide and makes it unplayable but thankfully my band teacher dug a brand new Bach trombone that had never been used out of storage. Great video :)
i recommend the yamaha oil, i've been using it for almost 2 years on my marching horn, my symphonic horn and my old jazz horn and it's the best i've found. the cream is great with the oil and the other oil she mentioned actually ends up more in your spit valve than on your slide (i jokingly call it water)
I'm starting a high school honor band at my middle school and my slide was a little scratchy but with the slide Greece I can't even tell if I'm moving it or not
thanks I just got my trommbone
this is great!!!!!
That's great- glad it helped!
just a tip, get the yamaha oil. it's not super expensive and they have clear instructions on the bottle. i have been using it for almost 2 years on 4 trombones and i still have oil left. i really dislike the oil she was talking about because it's essentially water. however, the cleaning is absolutely correct
Thx 😀
Great info but for me, it would be really helpful to have a benchmark or demo on how fast a good slide should drop when let go.
( not onto the floor of course)
After everything I tried, mine seems a bit sluggish but I have nothing to compare to.
It might be fine. Mine takes 6 seconds from pos to pos7.
It's not a question of how fast a side should drop, but whether your slide moves freely enough for you to be able to perform music.
berntd indeed without a point of comparison it can be difficult to know what to look for but hopefully I can put it into words. It should fall freely and you should feel almost no resistance when playing. Try wiping your inner slide as shown here and find a video or someone who can show you how to clean the outer slide as well. Very often cleanliness is the major factor in sluggishness.
@@Pb-ij4ip That is great advise.
I have since looked into the slide tube with an endoscope. It was full of green corrosion!
No simple cleaning / wiping helped.
I ended up making a ~1/8" brazing rod into a cleaning rod by bending an eye at the business end.
I used that rod in my portable drill on a slow speed and later by hand to run cloth strips soaked in metal polish up and down the rod.
That worked and eventually, all the green corrosion was gone and after washing it all out, the camera showed a reasonably clean pipe with only very slight pitting where the socks normally sit near the U-bend.
Currently, I think that the slide cream used on this instrument is at least partially responsible for this type of corrosion.
I substantiate this by watching this video and Donna being very surprised that her cleaning cloth came out green after not too long a period.
For that reason, I am currently using synthetic industrial sewing machine oil. (It is almost as thin as water ). That will definitely not cause any corrosion and it works great for now.
I can also confirm that the slide now drops very fast, as you said. What a difference!!
berntd I’m glad cleaning helped. Sounds like you went through a lot of trouble! My guess would be that the instrument sat for a while. A lot of lubricants will solidify over time so it’s still a good idea to clean the slide regularly, and particularly if you plan on not playing it for a extended period.
@@Pb-ij4ip
I do not know what was done with it. I was stupid enough to buy it like that because I thought that the slide operation was normal (I had never touched a trombone before that) . There was no corrosion / green visible from outside. The stockings and tubes also looked perfectly shiny silver clean.
this is a good video
+Beena tomy Thank you!
very helpful
+Carl Rudd Glad I could help!
Absolutely. I opted for the oil drops at the moment, and ordered some slide cream on eBay which I will apply when it arrives....making sure to remove the valve oil first. ;)
+Carl Rudd 👍🏻
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Thank you so much
Thanks would have preferred to have the oil taught first since it the video was for beginners.
Angela Ponder
Well it doesn't really take much skill to apply cream/grease...
Don't use Al Cass on a trombone slide or valve. It's been designed to work on plated valves, not raw brass. Try the Slide-O-Mix Rapid Comfort mixture instead on a trombone slide.
Oh wat it’s a Bach trombone
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3:26 I can't believe it's not butter!
Get yourself a cleaning rod and learn how to use it properly. The inside of the "outer slide" (as she calls it), especially on used instruments, or those that have been stored for a while, are likely to have all kinds of nasty stuff in there, which doesn't help in any way.
So, clean both parts of the slide thoroughly, and the keep on top of the maintenance with Trombotine. Avoid slide-o-mix or any other brand, they're often prone to building up or crystallising which can have very negative effects, regardless of what other people might say about them on various forums...
3-4 tubes of Trombotine will probably last you a lifetime or more, and it's not terribly expensive given that it saves you the wear and tear on a much more expensive Trombone.
Hello I have question, spraying water to the slide wouldn't make the trombone rusty ?
I have a trombone and that is how you say it. the inside of the outer slide
@@dora7846 See my post further up.
One weird thing I do is use a vintage gun cleaning rod. I do historical reenactments and I have one. It is perfect with a cleaning rag. Perfect length for a trombone slide.