We've had a previous version for 6 years which is now on 200K. It hasn't been expensive to own but it has had lots of little annoying electrical issues. The depreciation on these is insane.
I had a 2017 200kW Q7. The engine light came on just after 65,000 km, and it cost a few thousand dollars to fix the coolant leakage issue at the dealership. However, the same issue returned a few weeks later. Eventually, I sold it and replaced it with a Lexus RX450hL, which has proven to be much more reliable and affordable to maintain. The Q7 is more fun to drive than the RX, but for the price of owning and maintaining a Q7, might as well you should get a boring toyota SUV and than buy a 2nd fun car like 86/wrx/mx-5
Air suspension will always have issues, regardless of brand. Even Lexus that's regarded as the most reliable luxury car brand has issues with their air suspension. You're better off getting a car without it or removing the existing air suspension altogether.
I have had one for just over 3 years now and my initial reaction to your intro was negative because I thought it’s been a lovely experience all round, but it turns out I have short memory. I actually had a couple of issues over the years, a snapped serpentine (timing) belt (1 week in the shop), infotainment freezes, bootlid was non-responsive, recurring park brake warning light, recurring sunroof drainage, recurring coolant leak. Reason I forgot about all of it is because the Audi maintenance plan covered everything. Except the belly plate which wasn’t covered, it came off twice (I never replaced it after the second time 😢). All that aside, it’s been a blast and I would love to keep for the next decade.
My family owns one of these and it has about 45000 miles/ 70000 KMs. Overall fantastic car and the only “issues” we’ve had was once the auto lights didn’t turn off and some minor oil consumption. However previously coming from a BMW E60, an Infiniti, and an early 2000s Acura with trans problems, this has been great.
This is the best car review channel as I have commented before because reviews of day to day living with the vehicle is what you need to know rather than the new car reviews that are scripted from the manufacturer.
@@ReDriven How does the current Q7 do in terms of reliabilty (eg. the major facelift that happened in 2020/2021), a friend of mine was looking at a 2023 50-TDI S-Line demo with 2,248km. According to the dealer, it includes a 5yr/75,000km service plan, but would it have the 5 year warranty? Cheers!
Seriously with anything German or European for that matter you need to keep in mind that you will have to maintain it. They are not cars that you can run on a budget ever. You need to spend money to keep them going if you’re not prepared to do that then walk away.
The older were really tanks..but older means something like from the 80's - 90's . Almost everything after that period is junk sadly..even a golf 4 from 2000 compared to a 2003-2004 there's quite the difference in functionality/maintenance. Which is weird, it's the same model rofl😅
@@MrBau007 spot on. With the exception of "dull" Toyota/Lexcen models, a couple of Mazdas and maybe Honda, there isn't anything built after the mid-noughties I would trust to still be running with years ahead of it at 250,000km. He says while running a 2002 Alfa 156 GTA with 275,000km and a 2002 Subaru Outback with 255,000km on the clock.... (Full disclosure: I have spent $10k on the Alfa this year to address a bunch of random age related issues, while the Subi was a steal - bought for $1800 to replace the Alfa on daily commuting duties with head gaskets, timing belt and HD clutch replacement all done in the last 30,000km before I bought it...)
@@anakinskywalker4113 I own a Skoda Octavia 1.8 TSI from 2011,with the best ever DSG 7 gearbox 🤦😅I had to put it on the side till I can repair (IF I can,cause it will be quite the $$$ river poured into it),so I bought a Dacia Logan 1.4 MPI from 2006 for work and stuff 🤷For Aussie people that would require googling but it's the old brand from Romania, bought by Renault. In short, it's old and without maaaany of the commodities you get on "normal" cars 😂but it has at least servo stearing,2 front electric windows and mirrors and central locking 🤷😅 Bottom line, it's a pretty simple normal aspirated engine/car so not much can go wrong with it,also these cheap engines can go at least 500.000km without excessive repairs and such,just do the normal maintenance and you're good to go
Amazing vehicle overall when no issues and everything is working ! HOWEVER....Buyer beware for the 3.0T Supercharged: There is a design flaw (there is a TSB for it but you MUST read the fine print of it and apparently it isn't available in all countries). CEL code P0491 and P0492. I got one of two at around +140K kms from my 2017 and it is a labour intensive AND expensive job if out of pocket. I got only one of those two codes and the quote I was given by the dealer (since Audi dealers are the only ones who have the "special tool") was over $3K CAD/CDN. When it comes to consumables, TIRES!Such a heavy beast that I had to replace tires every 40K-50K kms-plus no spare tire that screwed me over from numerous road debris punctures that weren't repairable. OEM engine mounts are pretty much a 'consumable' item - when one leaks, best get both replaced (2/034Motorsport Street density mounts) as soon as possible because if you leave it too long, you are looking are more damage and MORE repairs of exhaust system.Replace squeely brakes w/Zimmermans and Textar pads. The oil consumption begins past 130K kms, you need to top up a full quart at the just before the 7K kms mark-you'll notice a drop in fuel mileage."Down that valley" is absolutely true for the 3.0T-best replace in one shot thermostat,PCV & water pump because when one goes, the rest will need to be replaced.Then the acceptable electronic gremlins (rear left door soft close sometimes fails, rear suspension drops all the way down at extreme cold -40C and seldomly lose air and vehicle levels up automatically-never failed for replacement during my ownership, intrusive lane keep assist, infotainment that needs a simple 3 button hold step reset,etc).I had air ride and 4wheel steering... you are at Audi dealership mercy for alignment - I didn't find a single shop where I reside that can/will do it. If you think what I mentioned are acceptable for you, go for it. If not - steer clear ESPECIALLY the new ones with the 'haptic' touch screens that replaced the buttons.You'll save a lot of hard earned money if you DIY preventive maintenance Finally I am greatful you gents featured my previous vehicle and I certainly experience a few mentioned issues - Cheers!
My mate has bought 2 of the older models from auction as tow rigs for his business. Both have high mileage, other than the odd electrical gremlin they’ve both been pretty dependable. V6 tdi.
A relative of mine lives out in rural NSW and has a 4M Q7, has been fantastic car, it regularly tows heavy loads (such as a 6.5 meter long caravan), it has nearly 180000 kms on the clock and even pulls utes out of the mud! Is dependable and very reliable considering what it gets put through.
@AB-ee1qi Ahh yes the brainwashed JDM fan boy who believes anything that isn’t Japanese is terrible. Generally if you take good care of European cars they will take care of you. Just keep up regular servicing and maintenance and don’t drive like a dipstick.
I have a similar Touareg with 162k and it's been quite reliable so far. I do a lot of driving on bad corrugated fire trails and it has done its fair share of overlanding. People have little idea how capable these things are off road.
This generation Q7, series 1, started arriving in Kenya from Japan not too long thanks to the gray import market. Majority I've seen being sold are the 2L turbo petrol variant. Mechanical and interior issues, I'm not sure about them but it's only a matter of time owners give their individual experiences with it, not that they will do so but yeah we wait.
Our 2016 Q7 TDI has been a fantastic car and driven hard for 8 years daily. No issues(so far?). I did DIY replace 1 glow plug and 2 worn upper control arms though.
Friend of mine just paid $5000 for a new turbo for his Dodge truck … new turbo for my Mercedes S550 is $4500 … btw.. VW doesn’t own Audi , both Audi and VW are owned by VAG …
Hi, as someone who watches this channel I own a Audi Q7 2011 S-Line which has been decently reliable, and don't kill me but I am looking at purchasing the Q7 in this video. Thing is a Prado or Klugar Hybrid are $20-30K more. Q7's if they have a good service history and use the correct oils can last a long time, you can also find a decent local mechanic to do a lot of the work much cheaper than the dealer can. Otherwise Toyota is $30K more, under powered, does not handle well, 10 years behind in innovation yet reliable and boring, so its a tough pick.
I know what you mean, people think Toyot vehicles are cheap to buy, new Cmary costs over $60k! Most used RAV4s and Klugger will cost more because of cheaper repairs, less complex and more reliable.
I factor in overall cost of ownership when making the comparison: purchase price + maintenance - trade in / sale price = overall cost of ownership. The lower repair costs, lack of depreciation, and ease of resale is what I think you are paying for with the Toyota.
The more I learn, the more I keep thinking that Euro used cars are not ideal. I got myself a 2014 renault kangoo for work and that's been a money pit. Got a 2006 toyota corolla for 4k and it's been so reliable!
@@Chris0-58 I've had 4 cars with sunroof's (for quite long periods of time) and never had problems.. but I don't open them much.. more of an occasional novelty. I think the issues arise with those who use frequently, and give opportunity for seals to go bad and drains to actually get stuff in them
I just looked it up headlights for Audi Q7 on eBay , they go from $150 to most expensive I could find for $1100 … not sure where you getting your prices from
German cars from the 80s, 90s and early 00s were great. VERY reliable, well made and just worked. Then "tech" happened... I say that as an ex-JLR Engineer
8:45 - thanks Adam!! Glad to see this vid out. 😊 and I do love my Q7! But I’m also a sicko that enjoys maintaining it. I wrote at you in the FB Q7 modifiers group. I will say on the conclusion note as you compare competition…. If I could tune a GV80 to 600 crank hp, I’d probably have one of those instead!! I think one of the points reviewers miss is how stout some manufacturers make their vehicles from stock. Reliability aside, none of those are touching the tuning potential of the CREC. From a base metal component standpoint. The block and rotating assembly are just a stronger. They like to use forged parts and hypereutectic casts in German stuff. I realize of course I’m the outlier here, though. If reliability is a massive concern, a tuned German car is some peoples’ worst nightmare. You’re totally right though, if I wasn’t a DIY’er with a great independent mechanic I’ve known long term, the costs would be absurd.
Plenty of people just buy something decent like a Mazda people mover. Those things are so comfortable. Tynan motors used to use them as a mini bus to transport customers who put their car in for service in my area.
These are alright under warranty, but as a used buy run away. If you are spending this kind of cash you should expect better quality. No wonder VW are in trouble.
Had a 2017 and enjoyed it thoroughly. However, things began to go south and made the decision to cut it loose a little too late. Lost the A/C and that was the last straw. Good while it lasted, but yes, the depreciation was a killer.
Mate, there's a bit of disinformation regarding the cruise control. You said that it could accelerate on its own, but I did some analysis and came to the conclusion that this is happening due to the front sensors "view" angle and narrow. Imagine that you are driving a road that has a steep incline and you are driving before the incline begins, the sensors are just seeing the front regardless if there's a car or not, so the sensors didn't pick up a car in front because the narrow view angle, then it accelerates, same thing happens on a close curve where thr sensor for 1 or 2 seconds can't see what's in front, then again of the narrow angle on horizontal and vertical axis
@@kuldipsingh366 Yes, but no one's cross shopping those cars just because they're the same size. . not just "luxury" , but classiness/sophistication in design , refinement , etc. You'd have to have some serious rose tinted glasses on to think a top spec Kluger is in the same realm because it ticks some 'luxury' tick boxes on a spec sheet . There's a reason Lexus exists.
The Q7 I'd argue is less appealing looks wise that the Vellfire/Alphid or the GV80 and I'd definitely pick those over the Q7. Definitely a car that screams money pit when it comes to the cost of repairs over a lot of the competition. I have a feeling that Hullsy had a love hate relationship with the Q7 especially after the one a few videos back that he said all the plastics shat themselves in it. Good video as always guys and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
After 10 years the plastic parts fail LOL People who can afford that car don’t have it for that long anyway They probably don’t care ! I myself buy Korean but had a 911 and that was more reliable than even my old Troop Carrier
I have a 2007 4.2ltr v8 I do have a steering adjustment issue but all in all at 242000km is is great. I can drive in places I couldn't put my disco. Same tyre type just to silence tyre guys out there. Regular service is the key with European cars. As with most cars oil changes and maintenance will cut down or almost eliminate motor and trans issues. As for the diesels he is pretty spot on with the carbon build up. All in all it's a good all wheel drive luxury car. Just my opinion.
1:16 this reminds of that one episode of Top Gear where the old trio took track-spec Supercars on a road trip across Europe to find the perfect driving road. Clarkson had a Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera and he ran out of fuel at one point and had to fill it up, but the fuel filler door was stuck closed. Funny he blamed Lambo for this when in fact it was just Audi problem. 🤣🤣
6:15 ... the numbering was done for the Chinese market. They love their long letters and numbers model nomenclature. Believe me, an Chatswoo Audi sales rep told me. 😀
I would like to see a review of the Audi A4 B7 (2.0t quattro preferably). One of the best models theyve made in the last 30 years, and quite reliable, so I’ve heard (for an Audi).
Modern headlights are insanely complex and expensive, with hundreds of individual diodes and motors to move all of them around. It's genuinely ludicrous, and that's without the genuine manufacturer and luxury car price upsells!
The matrix LEDs are some of the most complicated lights in existence, the amount of componentry to make it all work as intended is extensive. As a parts guy my favourite headlight story is a quote I did for RHD headlights on a customer's Porsche 918 Spyder - $22k per side.
Because Audi generally has the best lightning technology the market has to offer. Obviously nowadays Matrix LEDs are no longer that expensive (usually a 1k€ premium for VW/Skoda) because the technology by now has trickled down and gotten more affordable. Theres few videos about it but the German brands are far ahead of their competition when it comes to lightning technology, they put a lot of money and r&d into it, so of course they wanna see some money for it. Theyre usually options tho, you dont have to get them if you dont want to.
Rear main seal and upper sump leaks are still pretty prevalent on these second gen cars, I had to quote a couple today. At dealer prices you're at about $2k just in parts, then gearbox off (and potentially engine out if it's the upper sump).
Sick review guys, random question do you guys get a car called Cherry tiggo 4 pro in Australia? not asking you guys to review just asking 😉 from south africa btw.
Wow...talk about timing! I just picked up a 2016 200KW variant on Monday! Great vid. I still have a 2014 SQ5 TDI if you want to review that. I'm based in Sydney.
I don't buy the justification of things going wrong because it has so much tech. I wouldn't think it would have much more than a Kluger Hybrid Grande, Lexus, Hyundai/Genesis top spec models or Kia Sorento Platinum and non of them have anywhere this level of gremlins
14:08 - Question after watching this channel for quite a while. How long does it take you to drink an espresso, that you need to store it in a suitable holder?
Why is that so filthy under the bonnet ? My 8 year old Lexus still looks brand new under the bonnet. The way that is looked after there is no way I would buy it as they obviously couldn’t give a crap. For anyone that missed it the two logos Jim flashed up that have much better integrated hybrid systems was Toyota and Lexus.
5:11 Dogs are not ugly. And you guys are bashing the Q7 for almost 25 minutes. Hyundai and Toyota are nowhere near this car, let alone any Kia, Discovery or Volvo. VAG cars need servicing and a lot of attention. In return you get a car that works. This is a car you buy when you don't care about money. And as long as you keep that mindset it will work for the car and for you😂
These interior electronics can't handle heat well, especially the HVAC control unit. It can cause your AC to stop working too. I noticed this massive change in electronics quality around when the B8 Generation of Audi A4 was released. It spread to so many models and it scares me to say that it might be designed to burn out after so long. Test drive one, feel how hot these components can get! Then, imagine hot day after hot day attacking them as well. If your AC fails in your Audi, YOU ARE ON BORROWED TIME.
$10,000 for a headlight, you know for certain the manufacture is taking the piss. Yet people still buy the brand, presumably on purpose. Really need a review on the psyche of the owners.
I own a 'same under the skin' Touareg one of these with a bit over 162k on the clock. Has had a few issues in the last year. Leaking injector seals ($800) and electric park brake motors needed replacing ($1500). Servicing at an independent is around 5-800$ annually. This year it was about $3,000 in maintenance including an oil service and filters. I paid 30k for it, and for its age, and the abuse I give it - I'm fine with that. It's towed, recovered, done plenty of 4wding and has seen plenty of mud bogs. It spends a lot of its weekend life shuttling fire trails loaded with mountain bikes. It's quite handy for anything short of 'bogan rock crawling', can tow 3.5t and lift itself to give 300mm of ground clearance when necessary. It also cost less than half an equivalent Land Cruiser, so I've still got $27k left in the bank for the next 5-10 years of maintenance. It is of course vastly better to drive than a Land Cruiser when it's on tarmac.....which is still 95% of the time. But no, it's definitely not going to be as reliable. I don't know who would buy these things brand new.
When are people going to wake up that "premium", "prestige" or "luxury" is universally applied to the ordinary.A close relative was looking at the options list on an Audi a few years ago, enormous prices for different trims, wheels etc.Utterly over the top, just like her! Owners my love them but it is more like face saving after shelling out money that won't be recouped.
Adam/Jim, from this luxury SUV class, 2016-2021 what would be your choice for the premium SUV? For a person living in Europe. Also which engine would you choose, petrol, hybrid or diesel? Cheers
I just dropped $13k to fix my wife's q7. Nice car. Not worth the upkeep.
The wife or the Q7 😂
Reading this on my phone I thought you bought a Q7 for 13k ...
Should've nicely asked her boyfriend to pay for it
@@Sawubona2007😂
Poor bugger ,buy japanese
I’m a service advisor for Audi and I must say, thank you for someone finally making a video on these cars
Thanks mate! Would love to know more about your experiences
I did VW for years, not knowing they're history...I soon learnt.
@38skippers my first automotive job was with VW, yes you learn very quickly how crap they are.
My best mate has his own workshop and modern VAG vehicles keep him in business...
@mahcooharper9577 not surprised 😒
We've had a previous version for 6 years which is now on 200K. It hasn't been expensive to own but it has had lots of little annoying electrical issues. The depreciation on these is insane.
I had a 2017 200kW Q7. The engine light came on just after 65,000 km, and it cost a few thousand dollars to fix the coolant leakage issue at the dealership. However, the same issue returned a few weeks later. Eventually, I sold it and replaced it with a Lexus RX450hL, which has proven to be much more reliable and affordable to maintain. The Q7 is more fun to drive than the RX, but for the price of owning and maintaining a Q7, might as well you should get a boring toyota SUV and than buy a 2nd fun car like 86/wrx/mx-5
Can I ask the fuel brand you used? Using low quality fuel causes issues at even Toyota too. Reason why I stick to Shell.
@@NakedButAnonymous Ampol Diesel. - Woolworths everyday reward 😊.
Air suspension will always have issues, regardless of brand. Even Lexus that's regarded as the most reliable luxury car brand has issues with their air suspension. You're better off getting a car without it or removing the existing air suspension altogether.
I have had one for just over 3 years now and my initial reaction to your intro was negative because I thought it’s been a lovely experience all round, but it turns out I have short memory. I actually had a couple of issues over the years, a snapped serpentine (timing) belt (1 week in the shop), infotainment freezes, bootlid was non-responsive, recurring park brake warning light, recurring sunroof drainage, recurring coolant leak. Reason I forgot about all of it is because the Audi maintenance plan covered everything. Except the belly plate which wasn’t covered, it came off twice (I never replaced it after the second time 😢). All that aside, it’s been a blast and I would love to keep for the next decade.
My family owns one of these and it has about 45000 miles/ 70000 KMs. Overall fantastic car and the only “issues” we’ve had was once the auto lights didn’t turn off and some
minor oil consumption. However previously coming from a BMW E60, an Infiniti, and an early 2000s Acura with trans problems, this has been great.
That's extremely low mileage to be fair.
The mechanic really did his research! Everything was spot on. Especially the oil pressure thing!
I rarely comment. But coffee in a bucket size is the only way to go. I see it no other way. LOVE your channel! Cheers!
Felt like Jims part wasnt going to end🤣
😅😅
time slows down each time Jims part come on
This is the best car review channel as I have commented before because reviews of day to day living with the vehicle is what you need to know rather than the new car reviews that are scripted from the manufacturer.
Thanks so much mate!
@@ReDriven How does the current Q7 do in terms of reliabilty (eg. the major facelift that happened in 2020/2021), a friend of mine was looking at a 2023 50-TDI S-Line demo with 2,248km. According to the dealer, it includes a 5yr/75,000km service plan, but would it have the 5 year warranty? Cheers!
Clearly the first owner of that Q7 had no taste, who the hell chooses Oompa Loompa orange seats for a Champagne exterior.
Oompa Loompa?! 😂 I have that color!! But a metallic grey exterior. I love the brown seats, and I feel attacked
The interior colour is amazing and it is clearly not orange. Obviously there’s something wrong with your screen.
Pro tip - if Jim’s bit of the video is long, not good 😅
Seriously with anything German or European for that matter you need to keep in mind that you will have to maintain it. They are not cars that you can run on a budget ever. You need to spend money to keep them going if you’re not prepared to do that then walk away.
The older were really tanks..but older means something like from the 80's - 90's . Almost everything after that period is junk sadly..even a golf 4 from 2000 compared to a 2003-2004 there's quite the difference in functionality/maintenance. Which is weird, it's the same model rofl😅
@MrBau007 even if I'm going that old, I'd rather go Japanese. They're just better in every way.
Depends what you like. A lot of Japanese vehicles of that vintage or horrible and gutless @@damilolaakanni
@@MrBau007 spot on. With the exception of "dull" Toyota/Lexcen models, a couple of Mazdas and maybe Honda, there isn't anything built after the mid-noughties I would trust to still be running with years ahead of it at 250,000km.
He says while running a 2002 Alfa 156 GTA with 275,000km and a 2002 Subaru Outback with 255,000km on the clock....
(Full disclosure: I have spent $10k on the Alfa this year to address a bunch of random age related issues, while the Subi was a steal - bought for $1800 to replace the Alfa on daily commuting duties with head gaskets, timing belt and HD clutch replacement all done in the last 30,000km before I bought it...)
@@anakinskywalker4113 I own a Skoda Octavia 1.8 TSI from 2011,with the best ever DSG 7 gearbox 🤦😅I had to put it on the side till I can repair (IF I can,cause it will be quite the $$$ river poured into it),so I bought a Dacia Logan 1.4 MPI from 2006 for work and stuff 🤷For Aussie people that would require googling but it's the old brand from Romania, bought by Renault. In short, it's old and without maaaany of the commodities you get on "normal" cars 😂but it has at least servo stearing,2 front electric windows and mirrors and central locking 🤷😅 Bottom line, it's a pretty simple normal aspirated engine/car so not much can go wrong with it,also these cheap engines can go at least 500.000km without excessive repairs and such,just do the normal maintenance and you're good to go
I've had mine for 4 years and put 50k KMS on it - 2016 q7 s line. Never had a drama at all
Just serviced it properly and not abused it
Should you buy one? No - not in one million years. You're welcome.
Agreed. Sell a couple of the kids instead.
Amazing vehicle overall when no issues and everything is working ! HOWEVER....Buyer beware for the 3.0T Supercharged: There is a design flaw (there is a TSB for it but you MUST read the fine print of it and apparently it isn't available in all countries). CEL code P0491 and P0492. I got one of two at around +140K kms from my 2017 and it is a labour intensive AND expensive job if out of pocket. I got only one of those two codes and the quote I was given by the dealer (since Audi dealers are the only ones who have the "special tool") was over $3K CAD/CDN. When it comes to consumables, TIRES!Such a heavy beast that I had to replace tires every 40K-50K kms-plus no spare tire that screwed me over from numerous road debris punctures that weren't repairable. OEM engine mounts are pretty much a 'consumable' item - when one leaks, best get both replaced (2/034Motorsport Street density mounts) as soon as possible because if you leave it too long, you are looking are more damage and MORE repairs of exhaust system.Replace squeely brakes w/Zimmermans and Textar pads. The oil consumption begins past 130K kms, you need to top up a full quart at the just before the 7K kms mark-you'll notice a drop in fuel mileage."Down that valley" is absolutely true for the 3.0T-best replace in one shot thermostat,PCV & water pump because when one goes, the rest will need to be replaced.Then the acceptable electronic gremlins (rear left door soft close sometimes fails, rear suspension drops all the way down at extreme cold -40C and seldomly lose air and vehicle levels up automatically-never failed for replacement during my ownership, intrusive lane keep assist, infotainment that needs a simple 3 button hold step reset,etc).I had air ride and 4wheel steering... you are at Audi dealership mercy for alignment - I didn't find a single shop where I reside that can/will do it. If you think what I mentioned are acceptable for you, go for it. If not - steer clear ESPECIALLY the new ones with the 'haptic' touch screens that replaced the buttons.You'll save a lot of hard earned money if you DIY preventive maintenance
Finally I am greatful you gents featured my previous vehicle and I certainly experience a few mentioned issues - Cheers!
Run don't walk away from one of these
Good advice considering the skill of the average Q7 driver
Good advice considering how badly these tend to be driven.
scrub your eyes out to help ease the horror.
Not even run, gallop away
Too late. Already have one. 0.o
Thanks
You’re too kind mate. Thank you!
My mate has bought 2 of the older models from auction as tow rigs for his business. Both have high mileage, other than the odd electrical gremlin they’ve both been pretty dependable. V6 tdi.
Europeans that love diesels avoid vw v6 tdi as a plague. Your mate is truly a lucky bloke
@ I know the sq5 is bad but the more basic v6 tdi in these isn’t that bd
@@whiskeybluezhaha ehat are u talking about. Its the most popular engine here
A relative of mine lives out in rural NSW and has a 4M Q7, has been fantastic car, it regularly tows heavy loads (such as a 6.5 meter long caravan), it has nearly 180000 kms on the clock and even pulls utes out of the mud! Is dependable and very reliable considering what it gets put through.
@AB-ee1qi Ahh yes the brainwashed JDM fan boy who believes anything that isn’t Japanese is terrible. Generally if you take good care of European cars they will take care of you. Just keep up regular servicing and maintenance and don’t drive like a dipstick.
I have a similar Touareg with 162k and it's been quite reliable so far. I do a lot of driving on bad corrugated fire trails and it has done its fair share of overlanding. People have little idea how capable these things are off road.
@@olly1oo6 I've heard that Touregs are good work horse vehicles so idk i guess people just aren't meticulous with the maintenance
This generation Q7, series 1, started arriving in Kenya from Japan not too long thanks to the gray import market. Majority I've seen being sold are the 2L turbo petrol variant.
Mechanical and interior issues, I'm not sure about them but it's only a matter of time owners give their individual experiences with it, not that they will do so but yeah we wait.
Our 2016 Q7 TDI has been a fantastic car and driven hard for 8 years daily. No issues(so far?). I did DIY replace 1 glow plug and 2 worn upper control arms though.
Same here! 215k km and going!
Friend of mine just paid $5000 for a new turbo for his Dodge truck … new turbo for my Mercedes S550 is $4500 … btw.. VW doesn’t own Audi , both Audi and VW are owned by VAG …
Hi, as someone who watches this channel I own a Audi Q7 2011 S-Line which has been decently reliable, and don't kill me but I am looking at purchasing the Q7 in this video. Thing is a Prado or Klugar Hybrid are $20-30K more.
Q7's if they have a good service history and use the correct oils can last a long time, you can also find a decent local mechanic to do a lot of the work much cheaper than the dealer can.
Otherwise Toyota is $30K more, under powered, does not handle well, 10 years behind in innovation yet reliable and boring, so its a tough pick.
I know what you mean, people think Toyot vehicles are cheap to buy, new Cmary costs over $60k! Most used RAV4s and Klugger will cost more because of cheaper repairs, less complex and more reliable.
I factor in overall cost of ownership when making the comparison: purchase price + maintenance - trade in / sale price = overall cost of ownership. The lower repair costs, lack of depreciation, and ease of resale is what I think you are paying for with the Toyota.
I just love the enthusiasm! I'm certainly a fan now.
The more I learn, the more I keep thinking that Euro used cars are not ideal.
I got myself a 2014 renault kangoo for work and that's been a money pit.
Got a 2006 toyota corolla for 4k and it's been so reliable!
They certainly require more research and you're reliant on the original owner maintaining the car properly
Briliant - the other brands flash by like sublimanal product placement, and love the gritty no nonsense way you both review cars.
Liked the little clockwork orange style toyota/lexus quick flash haha 😂
Near subliminal Lexus logos during What Goes Wrong. 😂
Is that what that was, I thought it was a glitch in the matrix.
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So again: sunroof = step away.
That is the way.
Some will never have problems but they are few and far between.
@@Chris0-58 I've had 4 cars with sunroof's (for quite long periods of time) and never had problems.. but I don't open them much.. more of an occasional novelty. I think the issues arise with those who use frequently, and give opportunity for seals to go bad and drains to actually get stuff in them
The same issues come and go, most times I get away with ignoring them. Parking brake error 😬, sunroof drainage 🥲
I just looked it up headlights for Audi Q7 on eBay , they go from $150 to most expensive I could find for $1100 … not sure where you getting your prices from
German cars from the 80s, 90s and early 00s were great. VERY reliable, well made and just worked. Then "tech" happened... I say that as an ex-JLR Engineer
Exactly.
Audi SQ7 owner here from 2018. no issues so far with 95.000 km. Just to here to throw a different real life opinion.
Also no issues on my 2017 at 62k miles CREC V6 Supercharged
As a recovering VW owner, I only watch these euro reviews to remind myself of why I'm never buying euro again.
8:45 - thanks Adam!! Glad to see this vid out. 😊 and I do love my Q7! But I’m also a sicko that enjoys maintaining it. I wrote at you in the FB Q7 modifiers group.
I will say on the conclusion note as you compare competition…. If I could tune a GV80 to 600 crank hp, I’d probably have one of those instead!! I think one of the points reviewers miss is how stout some manufacturers make their vehicles from stock. Reliability aside, none of those are touching the tuning potential of the CREC. From a base metal component standpoint. The block and rotating assembly are just a stronger. They like to use forged parts and hypereutectic casts in German stuff. I realize of course I’m the outlier here, though. If reliability is a massive concern, a tuned German car is some peoples’ worst nightmare.
You’re totally right though, if I wasn’t a DIY’er with a great independent mechanic I’ve known long term, the costs would be absurd.
I haven't started watching yet but I know the answer to both those questions... NEARLY EVERYTHING and DEFINITELY NOT! 😅😅😅
Love the integrated flash😅
"Let's wipe this!" That's slogan worthy! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you really need a 7 seater, buy a Kia Carnival. End of.
That would require too much commonsense for a lot of people.
Latest Carnival is meant to be the Bees knees in People overs.
But it has no badge cache
Plenty of people just buy something decent like a Mazda people mover. Those things are so comfortable. Tynan motors used to use them as a mini bus to transport customers who put their car in for service in my area.
Not the Honda Odyssey or Toyota Previa/Tarago or Sienna if you live in North America? IMO those are more reliable than the Kia.
My wife and I did a road trip from Bangkok to Chiang Mai last November with my in-laws in a Toyota Vellfire .Excellent vehicle.
The What goes wrong introduction was disturbingly long. 18:58
Just get rid of the wiper ads which are gross.
It will probably surprise Aussies but in the Netherlands, it doesn't rain peanut butter.
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Grab a Jim's Tilt Tray loyalty card.
😅😅😅 so funny
These are alright under warranty, but as a used buy run away. If you are spending this kind of cash you should expect better quality. No wonder VW are in trouble.
The pointy stick thing with the hand on the end is pretty weird and distracting 😂
Kept thinking he was going to wave it and a fairy would appear in a puff of smoke
I love it, I kinda want one
I think it's hilarious.
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Had a 2017 and enjoyed it thoroughly. However, things began to go south and made the decision to cut it loose a little too late. Lost the A/C and that was the last straw. Good while it lasted, but yes, the depreciation was a killer.
Skoda Kodiaq - smaller on the outside, bigger on the inside, except 3rd row legroom not as good. Also, tens of thousands less expensive.
Mate, there's a bit of disinformation regarding the cruise control. You said that it could accelerate on its own, but I did some analysis and came to the conclusion that this is happening due to the front sensors "view" angle and narrow. Imagine that you are driving a road that has a steep incline and you are driving before the incline begins, the sensors are just seeing the front regardless if there's a car or not, so the sensors didn't pick up a car in front because the narrow view angle, then it accelerates, same thing happens on a close curve where thr sensor for 1 or 2 seconds can't see what's in front, then again of the narrow angle on horizontal and vertical axis
haha Kluger isn't a match for a Q7 sorry , doesn't matter what trim spec. The Palisade and Genesis are pretty convincing though
Not from luxury perspective but size wise, 7 seater.
@@kuldipsingh366 Yes, but no one's cross shopping those cars just because they're the same size. . not just "luxury" , but classiness/sophistication in design , refinement , etc. You'd have to have some serious rose tinted glasses on to think a top spec Kluger is in the same realm because it ticks some 'luxury' tick boxes on a spec sheet . There's a reason Lexus exists.
Perfect timing, I’m just looking at one of these
Loved the tailgate dropping by itself…😂😂
The Q7 I'd argue is less appealing looks wise that the Vellfire/Alphid or the GV80 and I'd definitely pick those over the Q7.
Definitely a car that screams money pit when it comes to the cost of repairs over a lot of the competition.
I have a feeling that Hullsy had a love hate relationship with the Q7 especially after the one a few videos back that he said all the plastics shat themselves in it.
Good video as always guys and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
@@TwistedDonners you compared q7 with incomparable vehicles but hey ok you commented
After 10 years the plastic parts fail
LOL People who can afford that car don’t have it for that long anyway
They probably don’t care !
I myself buy Korean but had a 911 and that was more reliable than even my old Troop Carrier
I have a 2007 4.2ltr v8 I do have a steering adjustment issue but all in all at 242000km is is great. I can drive in places I couldn't put my disco. Same tyre type just to silence tyre guys out there. Regular service is the key with European cars. As with most cars oil changes and maintenance will cut down or almost eliminate motor and trans issues. As for the diesels he is pretty spot on with the carbon build up. All in all it's a good all wheel drive luxury car. Just my opinion.
Love our Q7. 7 years old and going strong
Same (7 years old, had it for 3.5)
I used to own a 2016 SL it had an intermittent fault on the rear light, a new one was £3k . I don’t own it anymore 😂
1:16 this reminds of that one episode of Top Gear where the old trio took track-spec Supercars on a road trip across Europe to find the perfect driving road.
Clarkson had a Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera and he ran out of fuel at one point and had to fill it up, but the fuel filler door was stuck closed.
Funny he blamed Lambo for this when in fact it was just Audi problem. 🤣🤣
Some vehicles are good to sell when they are about to run out of warranty. This looks like one of those.
The engine difficulties are not helped by the fact that Australia, unlike civilized parts of the world, is not running low sulfur diesel
@redriven why was the mazda cx9 or cx90 not mentioned?
6:15 ... the numbering was done for the Chinese market. They love their long letters and numbers model nomenclature.
Believe me, an Chatswoo Audi sales rep told me. 😀
I would like to see a review of the Audi A4 B7 (2.0t quattro preferably). One of the best models theyve made in the last 30 years, and quite reliable, so I’ve heard (for an Audi).
This is the best suv . Dream on . I have one for the last 6 years. In uk
How TF can they justify $5-10k per headlight thats absurd
Madness 😮
Modern headlights are insanely complex and expensive, with hundreds of individual diodes and motors to move all of them around. It's genuinely ludicrous, and that's without the genuine manufacturer and luxury car price upsells!
Led spot lights are $100 for 2
The matrix LEDs are some of the most complicated lights in existence, the amount of componentry to make it all work as intended is extensive.
As a parts guy my favourite headlight story is a quote I did for RHD headlights on a customer's Porsche 918 Spyder - $22k per side.
Because Audi generally has the best lightning technology the market has to offer. Obviously nowadays Matrix LEDs are no longer that expensive (usually a 1k€ premium for VW/Skoda) because the technology by now has trickled down and gotten more affordable.
Theres few videos about it but the German brands are far ahead of their competition when it comes to lightning technology, they put a lot of money and r&d into it, so of course they wanna see some money for it. Theyre usually options tho, you dont have to get them if you dont want to.
Rear main seal and upper sump leaks are still pretty prevalent on these second gen cars, I had to quote a couple today. At dealer prices you're at about $2k just in parts, then gearbox off (and potentially engine out if it's the upper sump).
Sick review guys, random question do you guys get a car called Cherry tiggo 4 pro in Australia? not asking you guys to review just asking 😉 from south africa btw.
Wow...talk about timing! I just picked up a 2016 200KW variant on Monday! Great vid. I still have a 2014 SQ5 TDI if you want to review that. I'm based in Sydney.
YES!! Any chance you can message us on either Insta or Facebook? - AK
"and speaking of things down in that valley".. that's what Jim said. 21:30
Should review the bmw x7
I don't buy the justification of things going wrong because it has so much tech. I wouldn't think it would have much more than a Kluger Hybrid Grande, Lexus, Hyundai/Genesis top spec models or Kia Sorento Platinum and non of them have anywhere this level of gremlins
How long to replace something simple like a battery in one of those? For a Highlander/Kluger it's around 90 seconds.
Anyone hazard a guess?
14:08 - Question after watching this channel for quite a while. How long does it take you to drink an espresso, that you need to store it in a suitable holder?
Made by VW, so does the same(problems) go for the Porsche Cayenne?
Mazda CX-9 just buy the top spec, and you would as well spec car but reliable.
EVERYTHING!!!!
26:40 alot of ifs to just avoid.🤣🤣
Thank you!
Replacement standard HELLA LED, Bi-Xenon are £714 GBP each at a well known online German parts dealer. The LED ones £1634!
nah, i'm scared of the Audi badge lol
Hi i am looking to buy a secondhand medium SUV 2018 up, what do you recommended Thank you very much.
When u secretly work for apple and you inadvertently spill the beans 😂😂
I have one and I love it. Of course it's expensive, how is that a surprise for anyone?
Please do b9 Audi a4
Why is that so filthy under the bonnet ? My 8 year old Lexus still looks brand new under the bonnet. The way that is looked after there is no way I would buy it as they obviously couldn’t give a crap.
For anyone that missed it the two logos Jim flashed up that have much better integrated hybrid systems was Toyota and Lexus.
5:11 Dogs are not ugly. And you guys are bashing the Q7 for almost 25 minutes. Hyundai and Toyota are nowhere near this car, let alone any Kia, Discovery or Volvo. VAG cars need servicing and a lot of attention. In return you get a car that works. This is a car you buy when you don't care about money. And as long as you keep that mindset it will work for the car and for you😂
These interior electronics can't handle heat well, especially the HVAC control unit. It can cause your AC to stop working too. I noticed this massive change in electronics quality around when the B8 Generation of Audi A4 was released. It spread to so many models and it scares me to say that it might be designed to burn out after so long. Test drive one, feel how hot these components can get! Then, imagine hot day after hot day attacking them as well. If your AC fails in your Audi, YOU ARE ON BORROWED TIME.
Any chance you want to review the current gen Q3 before February? My lease is coming up lol
you HAVE to review an f90 m5
If your handy with a spanner, how do you save on parts ?
$10,000 for a headlight, you know for certain the manufacture is taking the piss. Yet people still buy the brand, presumably on purpose.
Really need a review on the psyche of the owners.
I own a 'same under the skin' Touareg one of these with a bit over 162k on the clock. Has had a few issues in the last year. Leaking injector seals ($800) and electric park brake motors needed replacing ($1500). Servicing at an independent is around 5-800$ annually. This year it was about $3,000 in maintenance including an oil service and filters.
I paid 30k for it, and for its age, and the abuse I give it - I'm fine with that. It's towed, recovered, done plenty of 4wding and has seen plenty of mud bogs. It spends a lot of its weekend life shuttling fire trails loaded with mountain bikes. It's quite handy for anything short of 'bogan rock crawling', can tow 3.5t and lift itself to give 300mm of ground clearance when necessary.
It also cost less than half an equivalent Land Cruiser, so I've still got $27k left in the bank for the next 5-10 years of maintenance. It is of course vastly better to drive than a Land Cruiser when it's on tarmac.....which is still 95% of the time.
But no, it's definitely not going to be as reliable. I don't know who would buy these things brand new.
When are we seeing the 2017 focus ST?
When are people going to wake up that "premium", "prestige" or "luxury" is universally applied to the ordinary.A close relative was looking at the options list on an Audi a few years ago, enormous prices for different trims, wheels etc.Utterly over the top, just like her! Owners my love them but it is more like face saving after shelling out money that won't be recouped.
The fact that its such a big car with a wide interior with such a small infotainment screen throws me
Hi my name is Mark just wondering have you ever redriven a Holden Colorado7.
G'day Mark, not yet. But we'd love to, just need to track one down
HI GUYS! Can you please do a review on a 2019-20 Subaru liberty premium 6Gen?? I'm in the market for one but not 100% sure
Adam/Jim, from this luxury SUV class, 2016-2021 what would be your choice for the premium SUV? For a person living in Europe. Also which engine would you choose, petrol, hybrid or diesel? Cheers
Cayenne Diesel 4.2.. 2013-17
What’s goes wrong? Just about everything. You need another budget for repairs and upkeep. They’re not even reliable new.