well said man, had a 636 and loved the powerband..but it's hard to find a sport bike that won't put a grin on your face..riding anything that screams is fun..no matter who makes it
I just gotta say, Hallelujah brother. I love my '05 R1, but if you're on a liter, you're kickin' ass, period. 600's are a little bit more decisive, depending on the year (I used to have an '08 R6), but still, if you're riding a sportbike, and you are riding what you want, you won't be happier!
i really like both the kawa and the R1 , incredible machines when it comes to maniablilty ... Used to go roadtrips with a 2007 model of the R1 and race with my mates ninja.. but unfortunately the BMW s1000rr won my heart and i sold the R1 and currently lookin for a new home for the golf4 :$
it said it was still worth over 5grand and it was a good friend of mine and well taken care of with all those new parts, i thought it was worth it...and i did for months look around right until summer arrived cuz i wanted a 1000RR with the exhaust still under the tail, and really a 06' blue/yellow scheme for paint!
agreed, this bike's new styling is taking kawasaki into a whole other direction, very modern, light weight, great lines, i love it!! It looks like a robot!
StuYZFR1 is right, brake horsepower and torque figures quoted by the factories are measured at the output shaft of the engine. The term brake horsepower refers to an old method of determining the power output of an engine called a "brake band" which would provide a resistance to the engine so the work done by the engine could be calculated, like a dyno's "rolling road". Flywheels are used to alter the characteristics of an engine but i'm not sure if it'd make much of a difference to the graphs.
i've always had kawasaki, but i just absolutely hate the front face... the headlights... uuuuuggghhhh... hidious! i cant wait for the new body style to come out!
That's balls. Red Fastbikesmag. Those guys can run rings around the MCN guys and know what they're talking about. ZX10 isn't the best 1000 but it's the track king.
I like the Kawi personally. The Yamaha always looks good though. I see far more ZX10's where I'm from. I wish Honda didn't jack up the nose on the 2008 Cbr 1000. That bike is getting great reviews and I'm a Honda guy. But that nose killed it for me. Can't wait to hear the reports on a 4 way majors 1000cc shootout.
Honda motors are excellent, yes, and I'd say overall their reliability is on par with Suzuki, and slightly better than Kawasaki. I've seen Suzuki street bikes routinely going at least 50k miles without any major engine work. The Hayabusas will easily go like that for 80 or 100 thousand miles...The only one of the big four I am biased against is Yamaha. And I own a Yamaha (and yes, I also own a Suzuki). Overall, they are made with lower quality parts than the others, period.
It's all rider and preference. These bikes are all so close. The difference is where the torque curve peaks or relaxes. Honda is usually underrated because of how smooth the torque is throughout the range. It seems as if the engine lacks personality, but it's all rider and preference.
The ninja is giving the r1 that like "hey man. Do we really need to go through with this? I mean you already know what will happen if you go against me!" lol. Both bikes are awesome.
It all comes down to the track, every track is different and every bike performs differently on each track. Some tracks are better for V twins some for inline 4 some for a triple some for a V4 .... you can't say this bike is better just because it was faster around this track. The best way how to judge this is take them to different tracks and then do an average and who comes out on top is the winner.
explain to me how...and this is not just because i own a 05. The 04-05 R1 were a big hit world wide. So yamaha wanted to continue with basically the same design with little changes to it so they can call it a "new model" the only changes that yamaha did to the 08 to call it a new model is widen the wind pits of the bike(which doesn't make look as sharp) change the odometer design, and trim the back end exposing more of the exaust and making the heat radidate more to the raider and passenger.
It's just like anything else, whatever feels good to one person doesn't mean it'll feel good for everyone. Personally I find the Kawasaki bikes to be more comfortable and fit me better.
@rocker5199 it's Rossi... and he doesn't love it anymore... not for the bike but for the team of yamaha... yamaha's are a great bike to ride i wish to buy one in the future
why? they're essentially neck and neck..it all comes down to what your flavour is..kawis hav e always had notoriously broad powerbands too..that's a fact
@sharky1993x how long do you think it takes to save up enough money for one? im at around 2,000 right now, im 16 and school just started. so if i get a job for all of school how long you think?(i make most of my money over summer working with dad). so wouldn't have the job probly when summer comes.
Well i got me a ZX10R,cause of the weather ive not done many miles.but i'll tell u what...it's a great bike,lighter feeling then last years,loves the corners and with me G/F on the back i didnt even feel like she was there.got a tail tidy on and a Two brothewrs racing exhaust and boy am i getting a pull.exup vavle gone,cat gone and now u do need ear plugs.cant wait for a dry day
Only reason i bought the 08 cbr1000 over the 08 zx10 was looks and feel...I just felt comfier on teh Honda and liked the looks better. I raced 2 zx10's and we were neck and neck..so reality I think everyone should buy the one they feel best on..if ur gonan rid eont eh street they are all good enough. Sadly my cbr was stolen a month ago..bummer
wow interesting, i like the 08 cbr looks kool off topic lol, and i agree i like the r1 looks why's in comparisin with the zx10 184mph with the zx10 is mad love it
I say this facia styling the R1 has it, as for the body,chasis the Kawi has it.. I think Kawi came out with another R1 threat though.. they always have the power now they have a lighter setup then the R1 use to be the other way around a few years back now Yamaha and HONDA when it comes to the heavy weights... but we will see later on in the season..
Why do most of MCN's videos have annoying noises that prevent people from listening to them? Come on, one video and it's the cars, another video and it's the wind...this one is another fine example.
@solidr1 He's clearly not quoting the power at the crank as it proves nothing, he's saying the power they've recorded at the rear wheel. Also, they're quoting the speed they've tested the bikes at, the speed manufacturers say the bikes will go is neither here nor there, it is the speed that can actually be achieved that counts.
if i was to buy a 1000cc bike in 07, it would br an r1, if i was to buy a bike in 08, cbr fireblade, but for 09... has to be the new zx10r. just looks so nice with the white chequered flag at the bottom of the body work. i do think that the r1 is a very nice bike but you cant beat the green of a ninja :)
my zx10r with just bolt on yoshis, goes 104 mph in 1st gear! at the rev limiter. SICK yamaha r1 is great too, but i like my KAWI 07 not the new FUGLY 08 !
8 r1_great bike but how many people have had probs with worn intake valves got mine done under warranty after a lot of denial from yam uk any body else i herd its not as rare as they like to make out!
Sorry but a 750 doesn't make 135 at the wheel when stock. More likely 122-126hp depending what dyno you use. A pre 98-00 R1 makes 125hp'ish on a proper dyno. Been there done that...
There's us guys, and theres a lot of us, and there's only one of you, if you think we're crazy because we think the ZX10R is ugly, we think you're crazy
it puts me off on the slightest ugliness on a bike but the exhaust on the zx is a put off the r1 is absoloutley wicked on looks but i want a bike thats just so loud but the exhausts to fit on are ilegal wat exhaust would you say to top the other bikes?
kawis is about power! Just reel the cable and let you friends behind i ridden a 07 zx10r and a r1 (i dont have them) and i can say if u wanna a monster go with kawis, the r1 is more friendly, more easy. and NEVER compare a GP full modded r1 with a normal r1 they r TOTALLY different.
more of superbikers more to choose the muffler sound..In Malaysia, Kawasaki is the best selling superbike because it easy to handling in Malaysian Road..and it service is also good..Honda is second choice, Suzuki third and Yamaha is for last..Because top speed of Yamaha is less from others..just pickup of Yamaha is good.
ive owned a 06 r1 and 2 zx10rs... ( 07, 04 ) i love them all, but i do prefer kawi over yamaha. however the 08 is FUGLY~ ill keep my blue 07 zx10r! ( yoshis )
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I have an 08 zx10r and agree it is a beast and does spin up and wobble when cornering at high speeds but that just adds to the fun.
No way, r 1 is super stable on bad roads now thats fun
well said man, had a 636 and loved the powerband..but it's hard to find a sport bike that won't put a grin on your face..riding anything that screams is fun..no matter who makes it
totally agree with you there mate.05-06 zx636r is the best lookin.beautiful bike
I just gotta say, Hallelujah brother. I love my '05 R1, but if you're on a liter, you're kickin' ass, period. 600's are a little bit more decisive, depending on the year (I used to have an '08 R6), but still, if you're riding a sportbike, and you are riding what you want, you won't be happier!
I currently have a 2008 zx10r and I am absolutely enamored with it. Beautiful bike and super smooth
i really like both the kawa and the R1 , incredible machines when it comes to maniablilty ... Used to go roadtrips with a 2007 model of the R1 and race with my mates ninja..
but unfortunately the BMW s1000rr won my heart and i sold the R1 and currently lookin for a new home for the golf4 :$
it said it was still worth over 5grand and it was a good friend of mine and well taken care of with all those new parts, i thought it was worth it...and i did for months look around right until summer arrived cuz i wanted a 1000RR with the exhaust still under the tail, and really a 06' blue/yellow scheme for paint!
agreed, this bike's new styling is taking kawasaki into a whole other direction, very modern, light weight, great lines, i love it!! It looks like a robot!
StuYZFR1 is right, brake horsepower and torque figures quoted by the factories are measured at the output shaft of the engine. The term brake horsepower refers to an old method of determining the power output of an engine called a "brake band" which would provide a resistance to the engine so the work done by the engine could be calculated, like a dyno's "rolling road". Flywheels are used to alter the characteristics of an engine but i'm not sure if it'd make much of a difference to the graphs.
it all comes down to da rider dudes..enuff said..
Question, why do you do the response to the bikes right along side the track where the bikes are flying by and we cant hear you?
i've always had kawasaki, but i just absolutely hate the front face... the headlights... uuuuuggghhhh... hidious! i cant wait for the new body style to come out!
yep,
but the zx10 looks way better than the 2006/2007 zx10
R1 is definitely worth every penny...so much fun to ride...
That's balls. Red Fastbikesmag. Those guys can run rings around the MCN guys and know what they're talking about.
ZX10 isn't the best 1000 but it's the track king.
As I new rider, I would agree completely with what you are saying. Ride safe.
I like the Kawi personally. The Yamaha always looks good though. I see far more ZX10's where I'm from. I wish Honda didn't jack up the nose on the 2008 Cbr 1000. That bike is getting great reviews and I'm a Honda guy. But that nose killed it for me. Can't wait to hear the reports on a 4 way majors 1000cc shootout.
Honda motors are excellent, yes, and I'd say overall their reliability is on par with Suzuki, and slightly better than Kawasaki. I've seen Suzuki street bikes routinely going at least 50k miles without any major engine work. The Hayabusas will easily go like that for 80 or 100 thousand miles...The only one of the big four I am biased against is Yamaha. And I own a Yamaha (and yes, I also own a Suzuki). Overall, they are made with lower quality parts than the others, period.
It's all rider and preference. These bikes are all so close. The difference is where the torque curve peaks or relaxes. Honda is usually underrated because of how smooth the torque is throughout the range. It seems as if the engine lacks personality, but it's all rider and preference.
The ninja is giving the r1 that like "hey man. Do we really need to go through with this? I mean you already know what will happen if you go against me!" lol. Both bikes are awesome.
It all comes down to the track, every track is different and every bike performs differently on each track. Some tracks are better for V twins some for inline 4 some for a triple some for a V4 .... you can't say this bike is better just because it was faster around this track. The best way how to judge this is take them to different tracks and then do an average and who comes out on top is the winner.
Yea, I mean, how much credit can you give to a dyno? especially if they were on the same machine in the same condition.
They been riding there whole life man,enough time on a bike and track you can do it to.
you must have heard that from someone, what kind of bike do you have?
The 08 .. Hard to decide which is better looking for me.. The brand new ZX10Rs look cooler than the R1s, depending on how u look at em though
im all about the looks and the ZX-10 has it all.......not to mentioned its fast 1000cc definately a plus...awesome machine highly recomended!!!!
which would win in a 0 to 60 race? The 2011 ZX10R or the 2011 YZF-R6?
Ok... Are they comapring the 2008 ZX-10 to the 2007 R1? That's what it sounds like in the info. If so that's not really a fair match-up.
Finally the braun and gold 'color' of the brakes and wheels is gone! I hated that. I still think the wind shield is too low for road usage.
Shite audio when riders are speaking. Go and buy an extension microphone or something lads.
8 more horsepower? mind blowing!
does 08 r1 has slipper clutch
what would the price for this bike be? just an avarege price
wats the Anti-spins system sopose to do?
explain to me how...and this is not just because i own a 05. The 04-05 R1 were a big hit world wide. So yamaha wanted to continue with basically the same design with little changes to it so they can call it a "new model" the only changes that yamaha did to the 08 to call it a new model is widen the wind pits of the bike(which doesn't make look as sharp) change the odometer design, and trim the back end exposing more of the exaust and making the heat radidate more to the raider and passenger.
i love all kinds of superbikes but i hate google ads....its in every video on youtube...pffftt
Michalzst, both the 10R and the R1 do 100mph in first gear, not kph.
It's just like anything else, whatever feels good to one person doesn't mean it'll feel good for everyone. Personally I find the Kawasaki bikes to be more comfortable and fit me better.
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what is better..the r1 or the r6?
@cytechx thats because SBK bikes are 50x more expensive and totally different from stock :-)
Man I love both of those bikes... but i'm only 16 so it's a long wait lol i'll stick with my rs50 for this year :)
@rocker5199 it's Rossi... and he doesn't love it anymore... not for the bike but for the team of yamaha... yamaha's are a great bike to ride i wish to buy one in the future
ever seen r1 2012?
@lukelukewayne im thinking of upgradeing from my 250r should i get a zx6r or 10r?
Now let's do 2018 ZX10R vs R1 xD
makes no sense...this is a really great youtube channel this is just a slip up ez mistake
Is the MCN ZX10R Vs. 08'Blade video out?
Plz reply! And if possible add a link.
Guess IT MUst BE out By now IT had been 16 years since you Ask ..😂😂
and the 1000rr is more forgiving, smoother and makes more hp. thought i cant say it looks better.
why? they're essentially neck and neck..it all comes down to what your flavour is..kawis hav e always had notoriously broad powerbands too..that's a fact
what does it do in a 1/4 mile
@sharky1993x how long do you think it takes to save up enough money for one? im at around 2,000 right now, im 16 and school just started. so if i get a job for all of school how long you think?(i make most of my money over summer working with dad). so wouldn't have the job probly when summer comes.
@lukelukewayne hey , can you tell me where can i find the speed limitator for a yamaha tzr 50 ?:D and how can i get it off? please
@lukelukewayne i agree ;) all the litre sportsbikes are good in their own ways, and its just about personal preference :P
I'd take the R1 at anytime.
i agree...i have a 05 r1. But i think that both of the models 08 look worse than previous models. My r1 is better looking that the 08 r1 for sure.
The winner is always the person who is paying the piper.....and on this day the men in green were paying the piper.
learn to write brand names before you comment on things you dont know about
personally,
both are powerful but i'd rather buy the r1 because of the looks!!!!!
Well i got me a ZX10R,cause of the weather ive not done many miles.but i'll tell u what...it's a great bike,lighter feeling then last years,loves the corners and with me G/F on the back i didnt even feel like she was there.got a tail tidy on and a Two brothewrs racing exhaust and boy am i getting a pull.exup vavle gone,cat gone and now u do need ear plugs.cant wait for a dry day
but yeah.... the output at the rear wheels do differ..
my 2003 R1 went into have a new engine and box fitted under warrenty after i blew it, they tried to blame my harris rearsets at first
which won?
Only reason i bought the 08 cbr1000 over the 08 zx10 was looks and feel...I just felt comfier on teh Honda and liked the looks better. I raced 2 zx10's and we were neck and neck..so reality I think everyone should buy the one they feel best on..if ur gonan rid eont eh street they are all good enough. Sadly my cbr was stolen a month ago..bummer
wow interesting, i like the 08 cbr looks kool off topic lol, and i agree i like the r1 looks why's in comparisin with the zx10 184mph with the zx10 is mad love it
I say this facia styling the R1 has it, as for the body,chasis the Kawi has it.. I think Kawi came out with another R1 threat though.. they always have the power now they have a lighter setup then the R1 use to be the other way around a few years back now Yamaha and HONDA when it comes to the heavy weights... but we will see later on in the season..
@sharky1993x lol same mate but then u look at the price of insurance lol it puts me off after seeing that. are u on the road now ?
have you seen the 14?
Why do most of MCN's videos have annoying noises that prevent people from listening to them? Come on, one video and it's the cars, another video and it's the wind...this one is another fine example.
i owned until last year the first fuel injected R1 it was a great bike(150+bhp). i thought that was fast so these must be mental.
@solidr1 He's clearly not quoting the power at the crank as it proves nothing, he's saying the power they've recorded at the rear wheel. Also, they're quoting the speed they've tested the bikes at, the speed manufacturers say the bikes will go is neither here nor there, it is the speed that can actually be achieved that counts.
shhheeeessshhh are they talking to us or eachother?!?!?
don't know wich to pick :O they both look badass ^_^
if i was to buy a 1000cc bike in 07, it would br an r1, if i was to buy a bike in 08, cbr fireblade, but for 09... has to be the new zx10r. just looks so nice with the white chequered flag at the bottom of the body work. i do think that the r1 is a very nice bike but you cant beat the green of a ninja :)
@SidewayzRB26 well good luck man. when you get a chance to see how they feel let me know. i want one dearly lol.
damn i thought you guys videos were getting worse in recent years. Seems as if they were always bad!
I guess from your name your in Iran
The bike in the US RRP is $11,799 or straight transfer to IRR = 114,485,697.00
what kind of r1 are they driving? because a r1 have 180bhp not 160:P
As pittmeister rightly states,they are talking about horsepower at the wheel.
Tested on a dyno...you can get a rear wheel figure,and its not at the flywheel,but at the crank...
my zx10r with just bolt on yoshis, goes 104 mph in 1st gear! at the rev limiter.
SICK
yamaha r1 is great too, but i like my KAWI 07 not the new FUGLY 08 !
8 r1_great bike but how many people have had probs with worn intake valves got mine done under warranty after a lot of denial from yam uk any body else i herd its not as rare as they like to make out!
They are sports tourers not track bikes just enjoy them
Sorry but a 750 doesn't make 135 at the wheel when stock. More likely 122-126hp depending what dyno you use.
A pre 98-00 R1 makes 125hp'ish on a proper dyno. Been there done that...
hell yeah I have, the new R1 is sick! but still not good enough to beat the zx-10r or the cbr-1000. Read the comparisons man.
@lukelukewayne agreed theres so little between the sports 1000cc it just comes down to personal taste
There's us guys, and theres a lot of us, and there's only one of you, if you think we're crazy because we think the ZX10R is ugly, we think you're crazy
That's as important as how comfortable the passenger seat is. Look elsewhere.
muitoo irado mano!
agree
@MrKawa24 where do you live?
really? im not doubting you...but iv been seeing the cbrs beating everything out there?
wich won´s?
@MultiMartialArtist you'll never get insured for a litre bike lol
it puts me off on the slightest ugliness on a bike but the exhaust on the zx is a put off the r1 is absoloutley wicked on looks but i want a bike thats just so loud but the exhausts to fit on are ilegal wat exhaust would you say to top the other bikes?
i like both of them
kawis is about power! Just reel the cable and let you friends behind i ridden a 07 zx10r and a r1 (i dont have them) and i can say if u wanna a monster go with kawis, the r1 is more friendly, more easy. and NEVER compare a GP full modded r1 with a normal r1 they r TOTALLY different.
more of superbikers more to choose the muffler sound..In Malaysia, Kawasaki is the best selling superbike because it easy to handling in Malaysian Road..and it service is also good..Honda is second choice, Suzuki third and Yamaha is for last..Because top speed of Yamaha is less from others..just pickup of Yamaha is good.
ive owned a 06 r1 and 2 zx10rs... ( 07, 04 )
i love them all, but i do prefer kawi over yamaha.
however the 08 is FUGLY~ ill keep my blue 07 zx10r! ( yoshis )
im whit you bro!