THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY (2012) MOVIE REACTION - FIRST TIME WATCHING - REVIEW
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- Welcome to our first-time watching as we react to The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012). It's only been a couple of weeks since we saw The Lord of the Rings and we already missed Middle-earth. So glad we still had yet to witness the thrilling adventures of Bilbo Baggins.
Directed by Peter Jackson, "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" follows the humble hobbit Bilbo Baggins as he joins a group of dwarves on a quest to reclaim their homeland from the fearsome dragon Smaug.
There is a lot of elements we enjoyed in this film. Getting to see a lot of the stories mentioned throughout "The Lord of the Rings" and how it all went down was exciting and we were thrilled to see how incredible Martin Freeman was as Bilbo.
We loved that the themes of friendship and courage are present here and how they take this opportunity to expand a bit more on the history and lore of Middle-earth. There were other elements that were missed, quite frankly some of the aesthetic choices especially with the things that used to be practical and are now CGI.
We hope that you enjoy our reactions, commentary and discussions as we delve into the film's themes and how it impacted the fantasy genre. How it's connection to the incredible "Lord of the Rings" trilogy made this such an enjoyable experience and how they continue to show the pure genius and innovation of J.R.R Tolkien who singlehandedly changed the landscape of what fantasy was as a genre and what could be achieved.
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Where in Middle-Earth would you two choose to live? I'd live in either the Shire, Rohan or Rivendell
@bryanprime3438 Excellent question! We both think we’d choose Rivendell! It’s just so beautiful and ethereal.
@@OfficialMediaKnights the dead marshs I would claim 📔 📚, since no one, not even tbe dark creatures like goblins,orcs not even the nazgul would want to be there.. "than i would enchant 12 miles of in a circle." That I can have peace and quiet 🤫
Shire, Rohan or Lothlorien here
Don't worry guys, Hobbit's 3 movies are actually decent, and theres still the bullshit 'rings of power' newish tv show to emerse you in the tolkein world, although its nowhere near as good, it still gives u the LOTR feel a bit.
in The Fellowship of the Ring, at the beginning when Frodo was riding with Gandalf and they're talking, when Gandalf said, "If you're referring to the dragon, I was barely involved..." Gandalf was referring to this story.
“Barely involved”
Arranged the meeting between Bilbo and the Dwarves
Rescued them from the Trolls
Took them to Rivendell to read the map
Rescued them from Goblin Town
Summoned the Eagles
led them to Beorn
THEN a long absence
Before participating in the final battle
Yea, “Barely Involved”, alright.
I don't care what some critics say, I enjoy the Hobbit films. Are they as epic or deep as LOTR? Nope. But they are still a lot of fun. Was Legolas in the book? Nope. But it makes sense he was there somewhere, being that it was his father's kingdom. I could go on, but my point is while I understand the criticism, I don't let it get in the way of my enjoyment.
I agree with you! And the more I watched them the more I grew to appreciate them.
Also Tolkien died before he could tie a lot of characters / events together. Some things we never saw or read that Christopher added & built on. The Hobbit was an oral bedtime story he told his children so even though the publisher didn’t put it in the final book doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. Azog for example wasn’t part of the story but gave the orcs personality, goals, motives adding him in as Thorin’s rival.
So purists should really take the time to think about it. As a writer I have hundreds of pages of notes, background info that didn’t make the edit and plan to put in a different book or appendix. We just don’t know.
thank you for saying this! fully agree.
10000% this. I saw this movie 8 times in the theater when it came out
@@Taewills Exactly, fellow author! One must recall that ALL of the History of Middle-earth, Morgoth's Ring, and the rest of the published writings, were the rough drafts and the deleted scenes that did not make it into the final draft. Chris Tolkien dumped it onto a starving fanbase, and to this day fans take sides and die on hills they shouldn't.
@@seregrian5675 right? There’s so much language about butchering the published material when - 1. It doesn’t have to be identical to be deemed a great adaptation. 2. The public doesn’t know what they think they know. And 3. Sometimes the source material can be improved upon, honestly. There can be dull or bland portions of a book I adore that get changed on-screen for the better.
"I didn't know Bilbo interacted with Gollum"
If you remember in the Fellowship of the Ring, Frodo says to Gandalf "it's a pity Bilbo didn't kill Gollum when he had the chance", to which Gandalf replies "Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo's blade. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many."
In other words:
Bilbo did meet Gollum, but also, Bilbo choosing to not kill Gollum is in large part the reason why Middle Earth was saved in the end ^^;
Butterfly effect and all that
"I didn't know Bilbo interacted with Gollum"
I think she meant it more as, she didn't know they had an actual conversation together, because she mentions later that line from Gandalf about pity staying Bilbo's hand.
That profile pic reminded me of some animations I'd rather forget
Yeah, most casual fans do not realize that this instance is one of the most impressive showings of what the butterfly effect is in any literature. Bilbo not killing Gollum is the most important part of the Hobbit+LOTR story line. With Gollum dead, Sauron would likely never know where the Ring is, and the story of LOTR would never happen + without Gollum, Frodo and Sam wound never, ever come to Mordor, and if by some miracle they do, Frodo would never toss the Ring into Mount Doom, as he basically never did, Gollum got the Ring from Frodo and fell into the fire with it.
@@zigazdovc6175 It's also worth noting that on a more personal stake, Bilbo probably saved himself without ever realizing it. Had he started his ownership of the Ring with murder, it's very unlikely he'd ever come back, or resist as well as he did to the Ring's corruption. Instead, the first thing he did with the Ring in his possession was to show mercy.
Let‘s not forget that Tolkien wrote the Hobbit as a bedtime story for his kids in 1936. The Lord of the Rings came out in 1954.
my understanding is that (yes, while he made it as a bedtime story for his kids) it was originally started based one of his student's paper that started out "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort."
Also, while it was published in '37, it was started in 1930. just saying.
@wal6377 If I recall correctly, Tolkien was bored while grading papers, and wrote "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" on one of them.
@@wal6377yeah nah. He didn’t steal the hobbit idea from one of his students, he wrote that himself, while he was at home
@@torontomame
Someone else also said it was Tolkien's own creation. I read it differently in one of his books. I think it was in a preface from Tolkien's son. I'm going back 50 years ago, and while my memory can be spotty at times nowadays, I don't make things up. I trust you believe your story as much as I believe mine.
I think that's why I dont really mind the more cartoonish tone of the hobbit films. While it's not a childlike story it is written to be more child friendly, and we see that in the way it's structured with much smaller bite sized encounters that can easily fit into 10-20 mins of bed time reading.
I think people came into this series wanting LOTR 2, but the Hobbit is not LOTR. It's set in the same world and there might be common themes and story ties but ultimately It's very different in terms of tone and structure.
"I'M GOING ON AN ADVENTURE!" Me, every time someone asks me where I'm going
😂- ME
To be fair, the parking lot at Target lately is a lot like Mordor.
"Are you going to the toilet?"
"YES, I'M GOING ON AN ADVENTURE!"
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You have to understand that Smaug is literally the LEAST of dragons. Compared to the largest of all he is the size of an ant. Ancalagon the Black was so massive that when he was finally defeated during the War of Wrath in the First Age and his corpse cast upon the three volcanic peaks of Thangorodrim (that Morgoth had built his fortress of Angband underneath), he crushed them utterly. The Elves were POWERFUL back in the day.
Dragons also seek out/build treasure hoards because gold is a soft metal, but to a dragon's scales, it's _just_ the right softness to make a bed out of. It also attracts the occasional adventurer snack too :P
Goblins are a degenerate form of Orc, mutated and devolved by their time spent wholly underground.
Must've used a REALLY big gun
I love that there are fans of the LOTL lore and story like you. I wish I was like that.
@@l0sts0ul89From the Silmarillion: "Eärendil came, shining with white flame, and about Vingilótë were gathered all the great birds of heaven and Thorondor was their captain, and there was battle in the air all the day and through a dark night of doubt. Before the rising of the sun Eärendil slew Ancalagon the Black, the mightiest of the dragon-host ..."
Eärendil already had the Silmaril set upon his brow, blazing with the light of the stars before the First Age began, which has a _significant_ effect on the servants of Morgoth, at the least weakening the great fire-drake. Thorondor was there also, the greatest servant of Manwë who was King of the Valar, and his eagles would have been able to inflict severe harm upon the dragon (recall the Battle of Yavin 4 from Star Wars, sure the Death Star was powerful, but a swarm of smaller ships took it down). Elvish weapons were also quite powerful (Glamdring and Orcrist, the two swords Gandalf finds in the Hobbit, were forged in Gondolin approximately 7000 years prior and showed no sign of age or wear), and so Eärendil would have been able to inflict some serious wounds with his blade. He was also likely empowered by the Valar, as it was his courage in sailing to Aman to plead for their aid against their former brother that inspired them to gather their host and join the battle.
@@ordinary6Thank you, that means a lot :) It's not just LOTR, it's many scifi and fantasy realms. I'm a tremendous lore nerd, I eat it up, primarily because our own world's history is so drab and boring.
Leave it to a Britain to make the biggest baddest most dangerous monster to be black
It's entertaining, people need to remember the lord of the rings was based off of 3 books, the hobbit is only 1 book that isn't even 300 pages
Right, it feels like the common consensus is that this did not need to be three movies...
Then they should have made it one film.
If it was just one movie a lot of stuff would have been missed out. I think two movies would have been fine. Cut out all the extra fluff the mocies threw in.
@@spitsfreeman Damn right they should've. Although Hollywood started to care more about profits a hell of a lot than during the LOTR.
it was the studios fault
Something you may have missed in The Fellowship of the Ring: Extended Edition) is that just after Frodo was stabbed in the shoulder on Weathertop and Aragorn is trying to treat the poison from the Morgul blade, they're actually next to the stone trolls that were still there after so many years. Sam even says "Look Mr. Frodo, it's Mr. Bilbo's trolls!"
This is the magic of it all, great story telling and bring little gems back the more you watch and realise!
@@davidareeves That was all Tolkien, there are parts that the directors changed, but this part, with Frodo poisoned next to Bilbo's trolls, did in fact happen in the book.
I love Martin Freeman in this, his dialogues, performance, line delivery, FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND BODY LANGUAGE. He definitely carries this movie on his back.
They WERE the trolls Bilbo told the story of. And then you see them later after Frodo gets stabbed by the Nazgûl and they stop to rest. Sam says “look Mr. Frodo, it’s Mr. Bilbo’s Trolls!”.
I think Martin Freeman did an amazing job as young Bilbo
We really enjoyed seeing him as Bilbo! So glad we got to know the character a little bit better!
@@OfficialMediaKnights I mean for all the criticism the Hobbit trilogy got (and I agree with most of it), it is worth watching solely for Martin Freeman's portrayal of young Bilbo. He was an absolute gem in this.
@@phj223 totally agree with this comment! also, i think if you're able to watch "the Hobbit" movies in isolation from the previous movies and try not to worry to much about the source material, you can enjoy them for what they are! it's a tall order but it's doable.
Iam Holm (RIP) wanted to try and reprise his role as a younger Bilbo, but his health prevented him from doing so. You're right, though; Freeman did do a bang-up job with this.
You wot....?
So, Balin is the dwarf whose tomb it was they found in Moria in Fellowship of the Ring. Not a spoiler since he was named in LotR. There are more but I don’t want to spoil anything for the next two movies.
And Ori is the one who was holding the book, lying in the same tomb
And Gloin is Gimli's father.
And Oin was killed by the Watcher in the Water
Fact of the day -
Gloin, one of the dwarves in the company is Gimlis father.
Goblin Mutant. I'm sorry I couldn't resist, I busted laughing in theatres when I heard that. 😂😂😂😂
It WAS Gloin 😭😭😭
I mean you could’ve waited one movie for that to be answered but sure spoil it lmao
@@OfficialMediaKnights Also Balin was the one entombed in Moria.
@@KayveePlays and Ori the owner of the journal Gandalf picks from his body, when he quotes ''they are coming...''
I've been to Hobbiton in New Zealand and got to do Bilbo's "I'm goin on an Adventure" line while running through the same path. Awesome time. We then had an actual feast at the Green Dragon Inn there as part of our tour. Absolutely recommend if anyone can get down there.
I'll be honest the gollum scene is absolutely freaking amazing and is by far the best portrayed moment from the hobbit book too. They took a lot of liberties with this trilogy, at not following the book, however not on this scene. Chapter was called Riddles in the dark and I have no words at how much perfection they hit with it for the cinema screen. Mindblowing, speechless !
A real treat like you guys said! Hail Andy Serkis the real goat!
So glad y'all are watching the extended versions. It bugs me when reactors watch LoTR extended, but not The Hobbit. Love your reactions. Have Fun With the rest!!
Thank you! Figured, we’d already watched the first trilogy in the same format and loved it. Thank you for watching these with us ❤️
I missed them both Christopher Lee and Ian Holmes. Rest in peace.
In the Fellowship of the Rings movie they stopped where the 3 trolls were turned to stone. I think it was Sam who said these must be Bilbos 3 Trolls. Actually, the Lord of the Rings made call backs to this timeframe. Since this occurred first. Gollum was not a Hobbit, but a River Folk, who are similar to the Hobbits.
He's a Stoor.
YES!!!! FINALLY. This movie is SOOOO UNDERRATED. Genuinely the most entertaining movie out of all Middle Earth movies.
Oh boy, obsessive lotr fans are gonna come for you, they can't bear the thought of someone enjoying these films and having an opinion of their own.
@@Jenna-nk7ml TRUE LOL. By the way im not saying this is the best Middle Earth movie. I'm just saying that if i have free time i would watch the movie more often than LOTR, because it is way more fun and entertaining.
And im just talking about Unexpected Journey.
@@igorpodemski9596 Ah, this makes more sense, i was a little confused at first 😂 My mom and I used to turn this one on when we just wanted to be in the shire/rivendell but didnt have the time to watch the full trilogy :P
This trilogy is good, but a lot of stuff should have been cut out, but Hollywood being what it is wanted a trilogy, meaning more 🤑, but this was supposed to be an adventure, Tolkein wrote for his son when he was a child. And those trolls you saw those in LOTR when the group and Aragorn was resting after Frodo got stabbed and was passing into the shadow realm, the troll statues are covered in green shrubs. The Necromancer goes by another name too, I'll leave it you guys to guys who it is. And you guys have never heard the metaphor you tell your children? "Oh thats not a thunderstorm, that's just stone giants fighting?" Sir, Christopher Lee was very sick by the time this trilogy came out, so much so that his doctor said he cannot fly, and so Peter Jackson filmed that round table meeting with Hugo, Sir Christopher, Cate Blanchett, Sir Ian in a set with green screen in England. And I can't wait for the second one cause it's my favorite, and played by one of my favorite top 10 actors. With that being said it's still cool to see more of the world.
Holy crap, didn't know that!! Thanks for pointing these things out! We are so excited for the second one and to continue this journey, see where it takes us!
Sir Christopher Lee and Peter Jackson had a falling out when Return of The King came out because Jackson had to cut all of Sarumons parts out of the movie for the theatrical cut. Luckily, they both made ammends and ended things as friends before Lee died.
I am glad you guys are not taking what others have said about the hobbit to form your opinion. The hobbit is honestly really good, and it may not be as good as lord of the rings, but what is? it is a very good trilogy and I love it so much!
Great that you decided to carry on with Peter Jackson's Tolkien movies😊 Whatever other people may say, The Hobbit trilogy was brilliant and had a lot of memorable moments. Personally I was hoping for Hobbit adaptation from Peter Jackson right after the Return of the king came out. When it finally happened I wasn't disappointed and enjoyed the new trilogy. Hope you'll enjoy it as well
That's so awesome to hear, we love when people enjoy movies - that's what they're made for!
We had such a great time with this one and cannot wait to continue our journey into Middle Earth! Thank you for your support!
Loved these films, never understood why other LOTR fans hated on them and were vile to people who enjoyed them. The Hobbit films were never in competition with LOTR so it was so weird and pathetic of them to compare, also if you liked the hobbit films other LOTR fans assumed that meant you thought it was better than LOTR and would get defensive... 😂 The trilogies are like brothers, no need to compare just enjoy. Plus without The Hobbit story JR might not have gone on to write LOTR. I'm thankful for the films and liked that Peter expanded on the book, plus he was probably forced to anyway by the studios to get more money. 80% of LOTR fans really ruined the releases of these films and made sure to kill anyone's love of them. Proud fan of both ✌️
If I don't like something I avoid it but the dedication certain lotr fans have to go on every reaction video and drop the same criticism to ruin the reactor's experience is nuts and so sad. Like they're terrified a few people might also enjoy the hobbit. When these films came out I'm surprised they didn't go protesting outside cinemas they were so pathetic, IT'S THE SAME UNIVERSE THEY'RE A PAIR NOT IN COMPETITION. It's the same as saying a sibling copied the other just by being born, so stupid.
While I agree with the bulk of what you've said, it was the director's choice to make the hobbit into three movies, he added scenes only to make it more drawn out, and thus ruined what might have been better (?), if he had left it as the original.
Did they cut out a whole lot out of lord of the rings, heck yeah, and I did not quibble over that, because you can understand why. However, did the director need to dump a ton of new scenes and story lines and stuff to make the hobbit?
I cant answer that. Resentment occurred for this movie, WHILE it was being made (!) because it was released that the director was bulling his way into making the hobbit into three movies, and adding new material never in the original source.
I imagine these fans arent LotR fans, they are fans of the original source material.
It's simple, the first film is the least offensive of the 3 films but the problems comes that it never needed to be 3 films and the problems become more apparent as the next two films release. The Hobbit's original story was always a much simpler fun tale that the '77 film actually carries out much better. The Hobbit trilogy actively tries to force a connection to the LOTR when it never needed it, and ends up making up portions to the story that ends up being worse for it. Lackluster forced love story and a forgettable 2ndary antagonist included. The Hobbit films are not outright terrible like say the Star Wars prequel or sequel trilogies, as it still carries the original Hobbit storyline. However a lot of the great parts just ends up getting bogged down while watching the the later films by all the unnecessary additions. There even exists a Hobbit edit that cuts out the unnecessary portions and shortens the movie quite a bit.
Vitriol on the otherhand is just fanbases in general, you'll get those people in any IP. Just ignore the ones that actively are being rude to you about it.
I loved every minute of the extended hobbit trilogy, scenes were added that was not in the source material but it was still a well told and engaging story in my opinion and thats what matters most. Hell if Peter Jackson decided one day to make a new trilogy set in the LOTR universe i would be down for it so long as it made sense within the established universe.
One of the interesting schools of thought about both the book but in particular the movie The Hobbit is that The Hobbit is more of a traditional fairy tale that is literally being told to us by Bilbo. We as the audience/reader are the same as the hobbit children in The Fellowship of the Ring when Bilbo is telling them about his adventurer at his birthday party. So things like trolls talking and being concerned about how to prepare food properly is a projection by Bilbo, an addition to the story by him, to make the story more fantastic. Hobbits talk and care about food preparation. Trolls do not. Even their clothing is like a hobbit's, not what every other troll we see or hear about in the other tales from Middle Earth wears. Same thing for the battle with the goblins being so over the top and defying physics by falling that distance and not being significantly harmed. We are watching/hearing Bilbo's story, we are not watching or hearing a "historical account" of events like we did in The Lord of the Rings trilogy. For me, even the higher use of CGI in this movie falls in line with this idea. It's more fantastic and less realistic than practical effects would be, but again that fits with the notion that it is a fairy tale being told to us, and elaborated on/added to, by Bilbo as he is telling it to us. Sort of like a fish story where the size of the fish caught gets bigger and bigger each time you tell the story.
In the Fellowship, Gandalf sits in front of the fire after Bilbo leaves the shire and when Frodo comes in he whispers "riddles in the dark". He's referring to Bilbo's game with Gollum
It wasn't. It was a name of the chapter of the book. LotR movies actually included a lot of the chapter names as easter eggs.
Out of all 6 LotR and Hobbit movies, Martin Freeman as Bilbo is the single best casting they could've ever done. He was born to play Bilbo
Honestly that's so hard to say, I feel like there is so manny perfect castings in lord of the rings, hard to choose 😅 bilbo us up there for sure tho, but for me I actually think gandalf is the best casting
Also think Viggo as Aragorn was perfect once they let go of Stuart Townsend.
@@jawo8754 To think they had been considering Nicolas Cage as Aragorn..
@@FrenchieQc right?! I like Nick Cage but he lends more to the manic characters.
3:24 That is Legolas' father!
15:26 Balin, is Gimli's cousin!
46:01 That's a hard NO! At that moment, Saruman had nothing to do with Sauron! He followed him much later!
I feel fortunate to have seen all six films in the theater on opening day, culminating with watching all three Hobbit films in a marathon at our local theater when the third film dropped. I'm so happy you both are enjoying these and I'm glad you're both now addicted to Middle-earth.
Yes! I did this! I took the day off work and I think they started around 8am in the morning. What an amazing time that was
@@SuperMonkeeGirl I actually started a new job the day after the marathon. I used the last of my cash to go see it.
I was born barely a year after ROTK released, so I never saw the original trilogy in theaters, but I saw all 3 hobbit movies in theaters after reading the book as a lil kid and falling in love!
What most people don't know about Thorin, is that during the battle at Moria, not only did Thorin lose his grandfather and his father go missing, but his younger brother, Frerin, died that day too
I never understood the hate for the hobbit but I loved them
Ehh people don’t like the extra content that wasn’t in the book and all the CGI over practical effects. Which personally, I don’t mind, but I do get it. They’re okay, just not as memorable as LOTR. I think all six films are great in their own way.
It's mostly because of alot of the stuff that was added in with alot of it not really making sense at all along with the CGI. While I don't hate these films, I am also not the hugest fan either.
Just so you know the balin. The old white haired dwarf is the same one that the fellowship comes up on the grave of in moria. In fact like three or four the dwarves that were part of that company are the dwarves that are part of this group in these movies. Including the one that writes the book that gained out reads at the grave.
I dunno why people hate on the hobbit. Peter Jackson put his spin while keeping true, just like he did with LOTR. He was forced to change parts of the story but still followed it
It was a derivative cash grab, cynically spun out into three films. Dwarves who mostly didn't look like dwarves, who nobody could name. Legolas, looking noticeably older. Cheap-looking CGI. Alfred scenes. It's a long, long list. The Hobbit trilogy shat all over the legacy of the original trilogy.
1:13:20 , In this part they play the Nazgûl theme... Completely out of context.. To me, that is such a good example of how lazily and/or hastily these movies were put together... Such a shame
@@vercoda9997 the originally trilogy (P.Jackson) Shat all over those movies as well when you look at how much he changed. If you looked into how much the Tolkien estate was suing him for he wouldn’t have the money to make it. Plus when you look at how rushed the book is the movie would be incredibly fast paced. Azog is mentioned in the book so I thought it’s great to bring him in more
@@NastyCupid you’re complaining over theme music? 😂😂
Well let me explain that many have complained but it’s not the Revelation of the Ringwraiths. It’s very similar buts it’s not..Howard Shore is known for using the same theme music for movies and slightly tweaking them. If you watch all of the middle earth cinema a lot of the theme music is the same depending on the area. Think of the Eagles theme: used first in Fellowship when the moth first appears. Then it's used in Two Towers to signify the ents. Then in Return of the King, it's Rohan's war theme AND the eagles theme. Then in An Unexpected Journey it's the eagles again. Howard Shore does this and it's fine. I listen to the soundtracks a lot.
The hobbit is not a complete failure because of him! It could have gone very wrong.
These are some of my favorite movies, I absolutely LOVE The Hobbit trilogy, easy to watch, nostalgic in many ways, the new characters we get to meet are amazing and their stories… amazing as well, and maybe some people dislike them, but I like to think I’m one of the few that really enjoys them, I hope you like them as well!
I have watched that movie with Ukrainians from Mariupol and the line "But always he remembered the mountain smoke beneath the moon, the trees like torches blazing bright, for he had seen dragon fire in the sky and a city turned to ash. And he never forgave... and he never forgot." came up...and that was one of sadest experiences in my life watching their faces...I know this is a bit out of place, but I cant shake that every time I hear that again. Oh and btw the white haired dwarf..that is Balin..you have heard the name before..you have seen his tomb
Wow, thank you for sharing. It is truly heartbreaking to see people lose their homes. Homes that have been there for generations and would’ve been home to generations to come. Nobody should have to go through that but unfortunately we don’t live in a perfect world. It’s bittersweet seeing some of these characters knowing where they’ll end up! That scene that followed though with the troll was spectacular!
@@OfficialMediaKnightsI apologize for bringing the mood down of course and that was not to meant as political statement by me just to clarify..my point is that sometimes movies mean even more to people than expected. You never know how close to home something hits (for me it is for example the start of "Up"), and this makes it even more massive to watch movies and appreciate the work that goes in even more
@@ravensdark99 No you're right, after all,
twas evil from the land of Mordor, where the soviet shadows lie...
@@adamscott7354mate I watched "The Darkest Hour" in Kyiv..you cannot imagine the crowd reaction to the end speech of Churchill..that was the most insane stuff I have ever seen in a cinema
@@ravensdark99 You're goddamn right, also Tarantino had to point out how vs in US cinemas, the London UK premiere with actual Dunkirk vets including some of the boat captains, crews just lost it with tears during the "Home came for them" scene,
about Darkest Hour, on a lighter note,
on a comment of a YT vid of it, I fully replicated that opening parliamentary scene in text but with English phonetic sound emphasis to make it funnier lol
That last line from Thorin always gets me in the feels.. Such a remarkable delivery that showcases just how good of an actor he is.
Riddles in the Dark is my favourite chapter of the book!
Yes!
It’s funny how watching something with friends can make it better, I remember not liking this movie but it was fun today
Ah man! You guys are truly the best ❤️
Me and my son loved these hobbit movies and still watch them. My son is a lotr fanatic and even he thought maybe it's just the purists who say these movies were bad. They're fun movies, and you will enjoy them I guarantee, so ignore any grumpy comments about these movies and enjoy the ride🎉
Something yall missed in reference to the fact Bilbo met Golem and retrieved the ring. Was the fact that in LOTR, Golem was captured and tortured by the orcs and screamed out, "Baggins, Shire!" He only could have said that by having ran into him and having shared that information at some point in the past.
19:57 - Gandalf says "But home is now behind you, the world ahead"
Remember the first line of Pippin's song in ROTK that he sings for Lord Denethor "Home is behind, the world ahead..."
I think this Trilogy gets entirely too much hate. Sure, it may not be of the same level as _Lord of the Rings_ (although many individial Scenes certainly are IMO). But there is too much to like about these Films, be it the Cast, the Music, the Cinematography, Ambition, Scale, Production Design and the aforementioned *fantastic* Moments, for be to dismiss them. They may not archive perfection the way LotR did, but honestly, what does? _The Hobbit,_ for all its flaws, still stands above damn near everything else this Genre has to offer.
And I'll always be thankful for the feelings the opening Scenes of _An Unexpected Journey_ gave me back in 2012: The New Line Cinema-Logo, accompanied by Howard Shore's familiar music, followed by the opening Scenes in the Shire and Bilbos' narration... it was like coming home.
I just love the vibe you two bring to the table. I feel like a friend in the room watching with you.
Seeing the end where Smaug's eye opens what CRAZY in the theatre, gave me actual chills. Loved the reaction, and I'm a huge fan of both trilogies. Can't wait for more!
Yes, that is the story Bilbo was telling to the young hobbits. And in the extended edition of fellowships of the ring there is a scene when Frodo is stabbed in the shoulder by the Witch kings blade. You see the trolls in their statue state and Sam makes a reference about them being the trolls in Bilbos story while Frodo is struggling with being poisoned.
Gandalf's presence make things go easier because of Narya, his ring of power. That was described as having the power to inspire others to resist tyranny, domination and despair.
I dont remember what Nenya did thought
When he said he got as far as Frogmorton once, I was curious so I looked it up just now. He walked 14 miles, so he would only have to walk approximately 946 more miles to get to his destination.
New Zealand is beautiful. That's where a lot of it was shot, beautiful landscape, truly MiddleEarth.
It makes my heart smile to see you both loving Tolkien's stories! I read The Hobbit when I was in sixth grade, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and became completely hooked on Middle Earth and every book that followed❤ The movies are amazing and I could not be happier with the screen adaptations!
When gandalf found the shire. It was during a terrible winter. A magical winter ( like how saruman made bad weather for the fellowship) .
He found a little girl ( bilbos mother) belladonna. As a child saved her from wolves, and help the shire folk survive the winter with his fires . He visited regularly after that . . He is one of the few outsiders allowed in .
At gandalfs request the rangers protect the shire . Stop anything evil or other men from entering. .
There is a road that dwarfs and elves use but thats it . .
Aragon granted the hobbits more land , and made it a law than no man, not even himself msy enter the shire. ( and he was invited) and he set up a trade relationship. Via sam .
I love watching your reactions to movies.....especially the Tolkein stories. The fact that you pick up on so many of the positive and compassionate gems the characters reveal is special. Thank you❤
When sir Christopher Lee was filming for this trilogy he couldn’t make the trip to New Zealand cause of medical issues so he had to film it on a green screen back in the UK
Denise's smile could light up a City
Elrond recognizes stuff because he remembers: he is over 6 ,000 years old
Peter Jackson had this "crazy" idea that the scenes with Gollum should be directed by someone who understands the character, so they were directed by Andy Serkis. Truly some of the best in the Trilogy
The older looking one, Balin, is the one who later returns to Moria, and the one whose tomb Gimli cries before when the Fellowship arrive in Moria in the original movie
Ppl nowdays just like to complain about everyting... I love this movies too, and even if i didnt tink theyr were good enough like many ppl i would still prefer them to exist since i love the lore and to know/see more about this franchise :)
the misty mountains song has lived rent free in my head since i first saw this film, as has ''i'm going on an adventure!!!''
Gotta remember that Smaug (this dragon) is one of the smallest of this world
See Ancalagon The Black... Godzilla himself would SH*T his pants!
He was also the last of the great dragons of this world.
@@grunztiertransmutator770 until well Godzilla lasers him
@@Dumbodwarf before Alduin shows back up of course lmao
@@l0sts0ul89 Eh? Alduin is from Elder Scrolls not Lord of the Rings. Now if he somehow got transported into Middle-Earth and the whole of Arda then yeah, Arda would no doubt be destroyed.
The only equivalence I guess to Alduin in LOTR would be Ancalagon but even he would be defeated by Alduin.
The academy should add a nomination for best motion capture performance. The great Andy Serkis and Benedict Cumberbatch performed awesomely in this trilogy.
Thanks for the reaction. Even though the LOTR Trilogy is way superior and the story here is a bit too stretched over three movies, it still is good fun and has lots of loveable characters and great actors. The 48 frames per second aren't really my thing, I like LOTR better in this aspect. Martin Freeman was an excellent choice. He came a long way since "The Office" and "Ali G in da House". Brillant in the wonderful "Sherlock" movies/series alongside Benedict Cumberbatch.
Now the torture scene of Gollum makes more sense on why he screamed SHIRE!!!! BAGGINSSSS!!!!! cause they never interact in Lord Of The Rings until he's seen in Moria and Gandalf tells Frodo "it's Gollum"... so until this movie it always made me question on how he knew to tell them where to go.
Fun fact, the studios purification wanted LOTR to be only 2 movies and not 3. Peter Jackson refused and got his Trilogy.
Then when The Hobbit finally happened, Peter Jackson wasn't even going to do it, bit ended up directing reluctantly and stressed out, and the studios demanded 3 movies from 1 book.
LOTR kinda set a millenial precident for Blockbuster Trilogies.
Thorin pulled an Isildur on azog. Sliced his arm off + azog was wielding a massive mace just like Sauron
The Media Knights: An Unexpected Journey... Two TH-camrs decide to react to amazing movies. They did not expect such a reaction, such a following. Their channel grew and grew and everyone loved their channel and even more themselves. They responded to all their fans and their fans responded back to them in kind. A fellowship was formed and we await their reactions every week for the foreseeable future. Have a great weekend guys ❤️👍
Haha aww! You guys have truly been the best of the best. We are beyond lucky to be part of this fellowship. We wish you an amazing weekend as well! ❤️
Unlike so many haters out there, I actually love that they made The Hobbit into 3 movies. I just like The Hobbit more than Lord of the Rings in general. They’re nicely paced and each movie has its own little story element of the overall story. Each focuses on one particular element. I like it. Plus, it’s more time we can enjoy Middle Earth. I hate the people that criticize those points or just the people that compare the movies to the books in general. It’s an adaption. Most authors of the books that get adapted into movies just require a few things. The casting has to be good and the story just has to have the spirit of the books. The spirit of the books. Not to be a direct equal to the books. Besides, a direct 1:1 adaptation would be quite boring don’t you think?
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They love each other!
“They just know fist bump”.
I'm not reading through all the comments, but having read the Hobbit when I was younger, I loved the Bilbo and Golum scene. Straight from the book. Riddles and all. I never read The Lord of the Rings, but those films are vastly superior. The Hobbit should have only been two movies. The book isn't that long. I will thoroughly enjoy reliving these films through you two though!!! Your reactions are some of the best on the platform!!
Part of Thrain's problem, if you will, is that he has one of the seven Dwarven Rings of Power. It makes him a lot greedier than he might otherwise be. That won't come up here since the Hobbit was written before the Lord of the Rings so it was a plot point brought up in LotR at the Council of Elrond.
These films are a lot of fun. Their major problem would be using a lot of extended action scenes to fill out three films based on a book not 1/3 the size of LotR. Their second is odd tonal shifts. The Hobbit is a children's book hence the playful comedy so often while LotR is aimed at adults. The Hobbit films shift between the tones making them feel discordant as stories. That said, I find these more re-watchable than LotR since the changes there annoyed me far more than the ones in this film.
Ohhh interesting!! I wonder if they tried to make those ties to LOTR stronger, retroactively, in these films?
Honestly thus far we have had a great time with all of them, and are excited to watch the second one asap!
@@OfficialMediaKnightsThey added a lot to these films to tie into LotR. Those additions annoy many but I enjoyed what they did. The studio wanted a LotR's length trilogy so Jackson and team did their best with what they had.
I do have a personal schadenfreude wish that they had kept the songs the elves sing when the gang gets to Rivendell if only to have seen the conniptions the LotR film Elf Worshiping fans would have had. This is just the first verse:
O! What are you doing,
And where are you going?
Your ponies need shoeing!
The River is flowing!
O! Tra-la-la-lally
Here down in the valley!
One of the reasons CGI was used so heavily (at least in the goblin portion) was partly due to health concerns during filming. They had made tonnes of costumes with anamatronic elements and initially all of the up-close goblins were actual actors. However people started to drop out during filming due to exhaustion, and the heat in the costumes was so intense, they were pouring literal buckets of sweat out of their boots after only a few hours
This movie is the best movie of the Hobbit Trilogy and I love it. I never get tired of watching it
The Necromancer IS Sauron!
Bittersweet fact: Sir Ian Holm developed Parkinson’s disease and it got quite nasty. He stopped acting altogether, but Peter Jackson and crew were hoping to have him reprise the role, and he agreed as a favor to Peter, and I like to think he did it for the fans too. He couldn’t fly to New Zealand, so they set up a private studio in London with a small crew and all the time in the world. There, he gave his final performance (I believe this is actual last acting job, though I can stand corrected), and one that can, and I think should, be appreciated by all. I think he was flawless. RIP Sir Ian Holm.
Fun fact: in both The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit movie trilogies the actors that play hobbits and the actors that play dwarves are scaled-up the same (there is no special effect or trick between them like there is with the taller humans, elves and wizards). Hobbits are supposed to be considerably shorter than dwarves, but the actors playing hobbits were all quite short and went everywhere barefoot, while the actors playing dwarves are all decently tall and wore big tall boots, and lots of thick clothing, making the dwarf actors look quite a bit taller and bigger.
The Ring wanted to leave Gollum. It want back to its creator. The thing is, Smeagol, being a hobbit, had a certain resistance the Ring hadn't counted upon. It corrupted him, it gave him an extended life of centuries, but it wasn't able to drive him into the wild where Sauron's forces would find it. It didn't have the chance to leave his side until Bilbo arrived.
Fun Fact: Galadriel has been around since the first age, so 2,000-3,000 years older than the others. That's why they have a sort of admiration for her.
Riddles in the dark. All of us fans were waiting to see Bilbo and Gollum interact and itwas absolutely perfect. Say what you will about the rest, but that part of the movie was worth it.
A very depressing fact to remember for LotR: in Moria, the tomb they find is for Balin, the oldest looking Dwarf, and the skeleton holding the book that Gandalf reads from when Pippin knocks the bucket into the well is Ori, the youngest looking Dwarf. So there's some sadness for you
42:42 I got an ad for McDonalds *IMMEDIATELY* after you said "Happy Meal" lmfao 😂
You guys came into this with the right attitude. While they did expand and add to the story to stretch it out to three movies, the riddle game with Gollum was a highlight of the book, and done here pretty faithfully. Tolkien initially failed to properly describe Gollum though, so early illustrators tended to draw him as some kind of frog creature, sometimes a giant frog. This carried over even to the animated version for TV by Rankin-Bass.
Thorin wasn't quite as mean to Bilbo in the book, but they played that up here to highlight the importance of them becoming great friends. One thing we don't see in the film version of Fellowship of the Ring is that after Bilbo sneaks out of his birthday party and says goodbye to Gandalf, a few dwarves had shown up to accompany him on his trip to Rivendell, because of course an elderly hobbit (even well-preserved) isn't going to wander there by himself in the middle of the night.
Another thing left out of all these film versions is that the eagles speak, being a kingdom unto themselves. Gandalf isn't summoning nature, but is actually a friend and on speaking terms with their king. Short version, they're always helping each other out.
Fili and Kili are the Pippin and Merry of this story, extremely young and prone to jokes that piss everyone else off 😂
Fun Fact: The mark on Bilbo's door is actually Gandalf's signature, notifying the dwarves that Bag End is the place.
I read all these books for enjoyment and for literature classes. As a kid, I watched the animated features. Seeing you two delighted by the movies is soooo enjoyable. Your old Uncle Vinnie would share meal and pint of ale with you anytime.😊
You also have to keep in mind that Peter Jackson was given very little time before shooting started on these films.guillermo del Toro was the original director and when that fell through they asked Peter to step in and finish it last minute. I think he did an incredible job with what he had.
The hobbit an unexpected journey was what got me into the entire middle earth thing at first, so for me it’s just really that nostalgic feeling and gratefulness for it is what makes this one of my favorite films and trilogies.
Gollum & Bilbo are the true heros of Middle Earth. If Bilbo didnt take the ring from Gollum before he was enteragated by the Nine, they wouldve taken it. Gollum biting Frodos finger off saved everyone by having them fight until he fell in the fire with the ring
"That's a horrible way to go😢"
"He just became a happy meal"
Some non-spoiler fun facts:
All of the wizards in middle earth (there are 5 as Gandalf says) serve a particular Vala (aka god) as their patron. Gandalf has multiple, but his chief Vala is Manwe, the Vala of the Air and Sky. The Eagles also serve Manwe directly.
Radagast serves Yavanna, the Lady of Trees and Growing things. He wasn't supposed to go but she begged Manwe that he be added because she could not trust that the other 4 wizards would give as much care to the flora and fauna of Middle Earth as one of her own servants.
Sauruman actually serves Aule, the Smith and Maker, who is also the one who made the dwarves. Coincidentally, so did Sauron before he left to serve the dark Vala, Melkor. That's why Sauron is one of the chief makers of the Rings, and is the sole maker of the One Ring -- he has an instinct to craft. In the books, Sauron is also the one who breeds the Uruk-hai first, and then Saurumon eventually learns the secret and starts doing it himself.
There is an odd theme along all of the Middle Earth books that those who serve or are aligned with Aule, basically possessed with the spirit to craft and create, are most often the ones who also spark conflict. The Noldor elves set off much of the events in the Silmarillion through their love of crafting, and one of them is Celebrimbor, the forger of all the Rings except for the One. Melkor, the dark Vala, also had a burning need to create but of course it was for the means of destruction.
The dwarves are a mild example, but their own need to create beautiful things often makes them greedy and gets them into trouble, like in Erebor with the dragon or Moria with the balrog.
I'm not sure if Tolkien did it on purpose, but it's almost as if he is saying that invention for the sake of invention, especially if there is no prior purpose for it or if it is done without a care to preserve what we already have, is dangerous. Like in Jurassic Park -- don't get caught up in the idea that you can, you should also be asking if you should.
One of the big differences between these films and the book was Azog.
In the book, Thorin HAD definitively killed Azog.
In the films, they seem to swing between "Thorin THINKS he killed Azog" and "Thorin outright lied about killing him and at least one other dwarf knew".
I HATE that change
The Hobbit (book) was part of our school reading curriculum - this was age 11 - 12 It opened my mind like no other book. I still cherish my copy.
"that's how bowling was invented"
There's a story about how Bullroarer Took, the tallest Hobbit ever to live invented the game of golf when he cut off the head of a goblin and sent it flying through the air into a rabbit hole.
It's an old saying but a good one, "fear the anger of a gentleman" and Bilbo is such a man.
Hurrah, people who realise that the two trilogies aren’t in competition with each other! Like it, or not, the Hobbit is a one volume children’s book which has been made into these films. How critical would you be if you’d never seen LOTR? Glad you enjoyed it, on to the next.
The Orc costumes they wore in the original were great! Though I heard they were suffering inside them, really hot and heavy, wearing them for like 6 hours. They looked so much better tho than CGI, you dont need to animate the hair, or the rain, water running off, lots of stuff.
30:11 Yes, this was Bilbo's Troll story.
26:02 regarding that comment, yeah that is exactly how it is 😂 Wizards are angelic spirits in the shape of old men, in the spirit world they serve as assistants and apprentices of the Valar, the deities of this world, so they have adopted powers and personalities according to that particular deity, in the case of Radagast he is a pupil of Yavannah , the valar (goddess) of nature and fertility , that's why his powers and interests align with nature and the forest and animals- but like all divinities associated with the earth, they are also linked to death and decay, so at his most negative , he's got powers that relate to the world of the deàd and diseases, it's rather fascinating
My old man and I never got along, but when I was coming up and the Lord of the Rings came out in theaters, we went to see it together for our mutual love of the books. I went to see the Hobbit Movies in theaters after he died, these feels hit me harder.
Its the small scenes like
43:33 Elrond and Bilbo
&
46:40 Gandalfs and Galadriel
That really make me love these movies
30:35 no you're not wrong..
Thranduil showing up with an army just as the dwarfs lost Erebor is a nice little thing, He was coming to lay siege to Erebor but Smaug got there first, Makes tension quite high
17:30 Tolkien imbued into his works his experiences in World War 1 (the first drafts for the Hobbit were actually written while in a foxhole.) And I feel like "You promise I will come back?" "No. And if you do, you will not be the same." is how it pans out for veterans.
23:25 for the most part the route of Frodo's journey and Bilbo's journey are pretty much the same until they reach Rivendell. At Rivendell, the ring heads south and Thorin's Company continues east.
And the reason they switched to CGI orcs is because even though the prosthestics looked way better, it took too long and cost too much to keep applying everyday and caused serious issues for the guys having to jump around wearing all that