I was at this race. I was 14 years old and I still remember how horrible that crash was. I knew right away there was no way anyone could survive that. RIP Greg Moore.
That’s eerie. Magneti Marelli patch at 17:45 on Greg’s crew chief’s sleeve. Magneti Marelli is also the visible sponsor on the patch of grass where Roland Ratzenberger’s car came to rest at Tosa.
In many ways, Gary Gerould is, for me, the heart of these classic broadcasts, and his tears when he speaks to Montoya and Ganassi at the end have stuck with me for nearly a quarter of a century. I watched the first part of this race at a friend’s house as we got ready to go trick or treating since it was Halloween. We were 14 and as it happened, this was the last time we went, the day we looked around and realized we were too old for it. We set out knowing Greg had crashed and was badly hurt, but my fears were confirmed when I watched the rest on tape after I got home, and when Gary cried, I cried, too. When I look back on it, it really seems like one of the pivotal moments in closing the book on my childhood.
I would say that the beginning of the end was the 1996 US 500 at Michigan. Not only was the decision to stage it at the same time as the Indy 500 an impetuous and stupid mistake, but their claim about the quality of drivers was their real undoing. Before the race even began, there was a multi car pile up coming to the green flag. Cart, in retrospect, never really recovered
I know it doesn’t matter but if Hearn wouldn’t have crashed then no yellow and neither would Greg. Additionally on the green for restart blundell had an issue and you can see him way far back holding up the line if he wouldn’t have had that issue then things would have also been different on the restart. Not blaming anybody of course but just a lot of little things that could have gone differently that would have probably ended up with a normal race.
Hearn's crash was prophetic. What a shame to lose such a promising driver so young. You look at people like Montoya who are still doing it today and ask yourself what Greg Moore's career could've been.
You can hear Paul Page's voice catch at various times, i.e. after Paul Tracy mentioned Greg. I think he knew, even if he didn't officially know. Dr. Olvey if you read between the lines of what he said before the official announcement ('attempts to resuscitate' is never good) it was pretty clear, particularly after seeing the insane violence of that crash. Unsurvivable. Chip must have been experiencing a surreal mix of emotions having just won the championship, losing Greg and knowing how easily it could have been him as his horrible crash at MIS was so eerily similar. If he'd hit a concrete and not armco barrier he'd likely not be standing there (one of the few times armco was the better fence to hit, flying in head first in a disintegrating car after rolling on grass.) That Fontana track was shockingly dangerous, and what on earth were they thinking running on a banked superspeedway in a 500 with almost no downforce? Insanity.
If nobody else has mentioned it, Adrian Fernandez also won the 1996 Toronto race that claimed the life of Jeff Krosnoff. I can’t imagine what he must have felt. And also, it seems that nearly every time something horrible happened Marty Reid was the commentator and he handled it with unmatched professionalism every time.
@@villy27 He was also inches away from certain death at 2002 Surfers Paradise when Takagi's car landed on his head. Adrian Fernandez' moments surrounded by death is Final Destination esque.
After this tragedy. CART was going to do an exhibition race on an airport runway in Hawaii at the Kalaeloa Airport called the Hawaiian super prix. But it was abruptly cancelled by the promoters because of the lack of revenue, decisions, missteps of management, and labor disputes involving stevedores were cited as the cause.
RIP Greg Moore. Very odd to see him spin out much like Richie Hearn earlier in the same part of Turn 2. Would've loved to have seen a replay from ESPN, at least the beginning part of it (I totally understand not showing it again in full at the time due to the severity of the crash), to sorta give an idea of what happened. At 19:52, it's kinda stunning how similar the skid paths are and how all it took essentially was the right bump in the grass to flip Greg's car over violently into the wall. Again, RIP
It’s overshadowed by the loss of Greg Moore but I remember this season very well, so whenever I revisit it, I’m looking for anyplace Dario could have picked up just one more point.
R.I.P. Greg Moore. You will dearly be missed. 💔😢😭🇨🇦9️⃣9️⃣ I just can't believe he died. Just like Montoya said, he didn't deserve to die. Moore died at the worst moment. He was supposed to join Team Penske for 2000 and 2001. He could have brought fame to Canada again. Hélio Castroneves replaced him, raced for Team Penske for 20 years and won three times at Indianapolis (2001, 2002 and 2009). The officials shouldn't have allowed Greg Moore to race because of his injury. Kinda reminds me of Gilles Villeneuve's death when his team shouldn't have allowed him to try to beat his teammate in qualifying.
One of the darkest days in American open wheel history, and frankly, all of racing. I was born less than a year after this terrible crash, but I can't imagine how profoundly awful this day was. Race in Peace, Greg Moore, your legacy and spirit is alive and well 22+ years on.
They show the train of leaders but not Greg taking it 4 wide on the outside into turn 1 right before he spun out of 2. I’m still upset they don’t have the full spin on video.
I was watching this race live in 1999. I remember how shocked I was to see Greg Moore's crash. It was terrible. Paul Page is one of the best commentators in all of motorsports. He did a really good job dealing with the severity of the crash, which we all knew was very, very bad.
If you look carefully at the two accidents, you can see at 12:27 how Richie Earn manages to correct the trajectory of his car just before the dune by turning the steering wheel to the right at the last moment. The move literally saves his life. Something that Greg Moore, however, was unable to do, whose left hand was seriously compromised. He simply shouldn't be allowed to run.
Chip Ganassi/Target 1999 Championship Crew 🏆 4# Juan Montoya Right Front/Chief Mechanic - Rob Hill Right Rear - Simon Hodgson Left Front - Wayne Westplate Left Rear - Barry Wanser Fueler - Tim Keene Vent/Air Jack - Steve Gough
Richie hearn had gone off virtually at the exact same spot. I wonder if him spinning there had left anything on the track surface to make it more slippery, like rubber or oil, and then it would take just a minor oversteer by greg moore’s car… to make him loose control. Rip greg moore.
R.I.P. Gregg Moore! Met him in Houston at the 98 race. Nice guy who should have lived a lot longer! His crash should’ve been avoided with just a little more caution on his part. The rush to get the car to a good finish would be the undoing! We still miss you Gregg!
Notice at 15:04, Mark Blundell and Scott Pruett hold off the entire pack behind. Ahead, Michael Andretti, Papis and Montoya distance themselves considerably. Maybe Greg Moore got stuck and when he tried to overtake, he ended up spinning, mixed with the oil that Bryan Herta released on the track. 10:31
No Brasil ficamos sabendo da morte antes do VT que o SBT exibia a noite pelo Fantástico da Globo. Na transmissão do SBT era visível a tristeza do narrador Teo José em ter que noticiar a morte de Moore. Posso estar enganado mas o Premiere transmitiu ao vivo essa corrida como fez ao longo de 1999 ja que o SBT exibia só os VTS as 23h da noite,apenas Japão Brasil Saint Louis e Austrália foram ao vivo.
The person I feel the worst for (besides the obvious, the victims and their families, as well as Adrian Fernandez), is Dario Franchitti. In both 1999 and 2011, he was in a superb battle for the championship. In both 1999 and 2011, he came into the final race as the points leader. And in 1999 and 2011, someone ended up dead. The only difference was that he won the 2011 championship, but that is no more than a hollow victory overshadowed by a devestating loss. He has 3 championships under his belt that _didn't_ have fatalities, at the very least.
Cant believe they didnt stop or shorten the race. I guess Greg would want these guys to race on but it was just a bad situation. When Dan Wheldon passed everything stopped. RIP Greg and Dan.
i think the difference mightve been that in this case the championship wasnt decided yet and they didnt want to deprive montoya or franchitti of the opportunity to win. while in wheldons case will power was involved in the crash and out of the race. the championship was over at that point so no loss by cutting the race short
the wheldon crash was part of a multi car accident that took out a good chuck of the field and parts of the track. the moore crash was a single car accident. that along with the fact they didn't tell any of the drivers until the finish what had happened played a part as well
i am quite shocked as i am from germany. I mean the zanardi incident was censored to much on German TV i feel like... as it is sadly part of racing, but holy h... they show them pretty much trying to revive greg for like 2 minutes... guys look at the sky or show some cars, roll some ads... that was shocking!
Not blaming anything on Richie Hearn but dammit if he wouldn't have crashed neither would have Greg. The only reason Greg crashed was due to the restart. Otherwise everything would have been fine. 🤷🏻♂
He was there to race. That's what racers do. Even the elevated risk, competing with a compromised hand, was acceptable to Greg. Racers are not ordinary people, which gives us so many opportunities to marvel at them. He was set to give us more marvelous moments that day, if not for the tragedy.
I literally dropped my 1997 IBM Thinkpad 760XL while I was working on my business work and watching the race when I saw he unexpected crash. It's was so terrifying and it's even more terrifying watching it on my big Sony XBR Trinitron at the time. Official allow the injured man to race is like allowing 5 years old kid to have a driver license. crap offical
Post-factum explanation: since Wheldon's tragedy there's a tendency within drivers culture, where if there's a possibility that driver has suffered (at least) very serious injuries, race is stopped. In the past, the race had to be finished above anything.
Standard operating procedure. The impact happened completely away from the racing surface, so the yellow flag didn't need to last long. Cancelling the race was not necessary.
No Brasil ficamos sabendo da morte antes do VT que o SBT exibia a noite pelo Fantástico da Globo. Na transmissão do SBT era visível a tristeza do narrador Teo José em ter que noticiar a morte de Moore. Posso estar enganado mas o Premiere transmitiu ao vivo essa corrida como fez ao longo de 1999 ja que o SBT exibia só os VTS as 23h da noite,apenas Japão Brasil Saint Louis e Austrália foram ao vivo.
I was at this race. I was 14 years old and I still remember how horrible that crash was. I knew right away there was no way anyone could survive that. RIP Greg Moore.
That’s eerie. Magneti Marelli patch at 17:45 on Greg’s crew chief’s sleeve. Magneti Marelli is also the visible sponsor on the patch of grass where Roland Ratzenberger’s car came to rest at Tosa.
22 years since we all witnessed this one live and it still brings tears to my eyes.
In many ways, Gary Gerould is, for me, the heart of these classic broadcasts, and his tears when he speaks to Montoya and Ganassi at the end have stuck with me for nearly a quarter of a century. I watched the first part of this race at a friend’s house as we got ready to go trick or treating since it was Halloween. We were 14 and as it happened, this was the last time we went, the day we looked around and realized we were too old for it. We set out knowing Greg had crashed and was badly hurt, but my fears were confirmed when I watched the rest on tape after I got home, and when Gary cried, I cried, too. When I look back on it, it really seems like one of the pivotal moments in closing the book on my childhood.
Well said.
Gary was the same way when Scott Kalitta was killed at Englishtown 2008
😢😢😢 I never forgot you mr greg .sorry greg family for ur lose.
Rest in peace 🙏 🪦 😢😢
In my opinion, that day was begining of the ending of CART. Some of it dies with Greg Moore.
I would say that the beginning of the end was the 1996 US 500 at Michigan. Not only was the decision to stage it at the same time as the Indy 500 an impetuous and stupid mistake, but their claim about the quality of drivers was their real undoing. Before the race even began, there was a multi car pile up coming to the green flag. Cart, in retrospect, never really recovered
4:06 Paul Page: “It’s Going to be a Terrific Day” Oh Dear.
It’s eerie how similar Richie Hearn’s crash is to Greg’s.
Paul Tracy's crash the year before in 98 was even more similar.
@@kieferclarkf1674 thankfully that was under yellow so he wasnt at full speed
I wonder if richie hearns crash left any type of oil or any slipery surface on that turn
I know it doesn’t matter but if Hearn wouldn’t have crashed then no yellow and neither would Greg.
Additionally on the green for restart blundell had an issue and you can see him way far back holding up the line if he wouldn’t have had that issue then things would have also been different on the restart.
Not blaming anybody of course but just a lot of little things that could have gone differently that would have probably ended up with a normal race.
@@geraldo209often wondered that. I also wonder if it was the injury to Greg’s hand
Hearn's crash was prophetic. What a shame to lose such a promising driver so young. You look at people like Montoya who are still doing it today and ask yourself what Greg Moore's career could've been.
15:48 - Oh my God!!
Broke my heart.
The silence after 1:36:00 says it all.
R.I.P. Greg Moore
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You can hear Paul Page's voice catch at various times, i.e. after Paul Tracy mentioned Greg. I think he knew, even if he didn't officially know. Dr. Olvey if you read between the lines of what he said before the official announcement ('attempts to resuscitate' is never good) it was pretty clear, particularly after seeing the insane violence of that crash. Unsurvivable. Chip must have been experiencing a surreal mix of emotions having just won the championship, losing Greg and knowing how easily it could have been him as his horrible crash at MIS was so eerily similar. If he'd hit a concrete and not armco barrier he'd likely not be standing there (one of the few times armco was the better fence to hit, flying in head first in a disintegrating car after rolling on grass.) That Fontana track was shockingly dangerous, and what on earth were they thinking running on a banked superspeedway in a 500 with almost no downforce? Insanity.
If nobody else has mentioned it, Adrian Fernandez also won the 1996 Toronto race that claimed the life of Jeff Krosnoff. I can’t imagine what he must have felt. And also, it seems that nearly every time something horrible happened Marty Reid was the commentator and he handled it with unmatched professionalism every time.
Yes, and he was part of the 1998 Michigan crash, killing three spectators.
He was a part of some of the worst moments in cart history
@@villy27 He was also inches away from certain death at 2002 Surfers Paradise when Takagi's car landed on his head. Adrian Fernandez' moments surrounded by death is Final Destination esque.
Even when Dale Sr died in 2001, Marty Reid was in Phoenix that day doing an NHRA event on ESPN.
After this tragedy. CART was going to do an exhibition race on an airport runway in Hawaii at the Kalaeloa Airport called the Hawaiian super prix. But it was abruptly cancelled by the promoters because of the lack of revenue, decisions, missteps of management, and labor disputes involving stevedores were cited as the cause.
RIP Greg Moore. Very odd to see him spin out much like Richie Hearn earlier in the same part of Turn 2. Would've loved to have seen a replay from ESPN, at least the beginning part of it (I totally understand not showing it again in full at the time due to the severity of the crash), to sorta give an idea of what happened. At 19:52, it's kinda stunning how similar the skid paths are and how all it took essentially was the right bump in the grass to flip Greg's car over violently into the wall. Again, RIP
nobody remembers that Montoya won the championship on a tiebreaker
And nobody especially remembers that Dario pretty much lost the championship because of a mistake in the pits late in the race.
It’s overshadowed by the loss of Greg Moore but I remember this season very well, so whenever I revisit it, I’m looking for anyplace Dario could have picked up just one more point.
@@randydubin7118 Oh yeah, 1999 is one of the greatest battles in IndyCar history. Obviously forgotten because of Greg :(
Makes a grown man cry.
RIP Greg Moore.
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Sad
Franchitti title deciders were utterly cursed.
R.I.P. Greg Moore. You will dearly be missed. 💔😢😭🇨🇦9️⃣9️⃣
I just can't believe he died. Just like Montoya said, he didn't deserve to die. Moore died at the worst moment. He was supposed to join Team Penske for 2000 and 2001. He could have brought fame to Canada again. Hélio Castroneves replaced him, raced for Team Penske for 20 years and won three times at Indianapolis (2001, 2002 and 2009).
The officials shouldn't have allowed Greg Moore to race because of his injury. Kinda reminds me of Gilles Villeneuve's death when his team shouldn't have allowed him to try to beat his teammate in qualifying.
A big RIP to Greg Moore promising driver
I remember hearing that after this airing ESPN pulled the replay of this race from the schedule due to Greg Moore’s death.
One of the darkest days in American open wheel history, and frankly, all of racing. I was born less than a year after this terrible crash, but I can't imagine how profoundly awful this day was. Race in Peace, Greg Moore, your legacy and spirit is alive and well 22+ years on.
Great race.
Tragic outcome.
Montoya the first rookie to win the cart championship since 1993 when Nigel mansell won it
The first true rookie, since Nigel was the reigning F1 World Champion.
1:30:00 why i loved to see Montoya racing. Dude is fearless
Montoya survivors
He should have never left indycars between 2007-2013.
Somewhere in Toronto, a young man named James Hinchcliffe lost his racing hero.
It was a huge mistake for the CART medical team to allow Greg Moore to race without conditions.
Must be heartbreaking with Greg's family 💔
They show the train of leaders but not Greg taking it 4 wide on the outside into turn 1 right before he spun out of 2. I’m still upset they don’t have the full spin on video.
I was watching this race live in 1999. I remember how shocked I was to see Greg Moore's crash. It was terrible. Paul Page is one of the best commentators in all of motorsports. He did a really good job dealing with the severity of the crash, which we all knew was very, very bad.
If you look carefully at the two accidents, you can see at 12:27 how Richie Earn manages to correct the trajectory of his car just before the dune by turning the steering wheel to the right at the last moment. The move literally saves his life. Something that Greg Moore, however, was unable to do, whose left hand was seriously compromised. He simply shouldn't be allowed to run.
It is very weird and sad that several victories of Adrian Fernandez were followed by a race with a fatality. RIP Greg Moore.
Chip Ganassi/Target
1999 Championship Crew 🏆
4# Juan Montoya
Right Front/Chief Mechanic - Rob Hill
Right Rear - Simon Hodgson
Left Front - Wayne Westplate
Left Rear - Barry Wanser
Fueler - Tim Keene
Vent/Air Jack - Steve Gough
Richie hearn had gone off virtually at the exact same spot. I wonder if him spinning there had left anything on the track surface to make it more slippery, like rubber or oil, and then it would take just a minor oversteer by greg moore’s car… to make him loose control. Rip greg moore.
Fontana 99 had the same vibes as Imola 94… a somber atmosphere just as death was sneaking around waiting to pick someone up… RIP Greg Moore…
R.I.P. Gregg Moore! Met him in Houston at the 98 race. Nice guy who should have lived a lot longer! His crash should’ve been avoided with just a little more caution on his part. The rush to get the car to a good finish would be the undoing! We still miss you Gregg!
I was at 1999 Long Beach GP, at Players pit on race-day. Greg was being fan friendly, signing autographs. I have video, will have to upload it
15:40 ムーアと 12:50 リッチーハーンは同じ感じのクラッシュだったけどムーアの方が酷かった。セイファーバリアで安全性も高まったことに感謝。
One of the most violent single car crashes I’ve ever seen, what a horrible impact- and at such a horrendous angle.
Notice at 15:04, Mark Blundell and Scott Pruett hold off the entire pack behind. Ahead, Michael Andretti, Papis and Montoya distance themselves considerably. Maybe Greg Moore got stuck and when he tried to overtake, he ended up spinning, mixed with the oil that Bryan Herta released on the track. 10:31
15:44 Greg Moore's Fatal Crash
THIS IS WILD, 1:37:05 , R.I.P. Greg Moore, and just then, the next thing they say is "Imagine living life"
I dislike halloween every year because of this race.
No Brasil ficamos sabendo da morte antes do VT que o SBT exibia a noite pelo Fantástico da Globo. Na transmissão do SBT era visível a tristeza do narrador Teo José em ter que noticiar a morte de Moore. Posso estar enganado mas o Premiere transmitiu ao vivo essa corrida como fez ao longo de 1999 ja que o SBT exibia só os VTS as 23h da noite,apenas Japão Brasil Saint Louis e Austrália foram ao vivo.
Greg's crash never gets easier to watch... even 25 years later. Absolutely horrifying
1:35:57 Greg Moore Pronounced dead
The person I feel the worst for (besides the obvious, the victims and their families, as well as Adrian Fernandez), is Dario Franchitti.
In both 1999 and 2011, he was in a superb battle for the championship. In both 1999 and 2011, he came into the final race as the points leader. And in 1999 and 2011, someone ended up dead. The only difference was that he won the 2011 championship, but that is no more than a hollow victory overshadowed by a devestating loss. He has 3 championships under his belt that _didn't_ have fatalities, at the very least.
Remember in 1996, Adrian Fernandez won his first race in Toronto on the same day that Jeff Krosnoff and Gary Arvin died
On both days, he lost a close friend.
Cant believe they didnt stop or shorten the race. I guess Greg would want these guys to race on but it was just a bad situation. When Dan Wheldon passed everything stopped. RIP Greg and Dan.
i think the difference mightve been that in this case the championship wasnt decided yet and they didnt want to deprive montoya or franchitti of the opportunity to win. while in wheldons case will power was involved in the crash and out of the race. the championship was over at that point so no loss by cutting the race short
the wheldon crash was part of a multi car accident that took out a good chuck of the field and parts of the track. the moore crash was a single car accident. that along with the fact they didn't tell any of the drivers until the finish what had happened played a part as well
Dan wheldon's accident ripped out a huge chunk of catch fence which was why it was stopped. Greg's accident was well out of the way.
Magneti Marelli sponsor patch on sleeve at 17:45. The same sponsor logo where Roland Ratzenberger’s car came to rest at Tosa ‘94. That’s just eerie.
15:44 very sad
R.I.P greg moore 🇨🇦
Haven't seen it yet, but already have a bad feeling this is going to be a bad day. 😮😮😮
i am quite shocked as i am from germany. I mean the zanardi incident was censored to much on German TV i feel like... as it is sadly part of racing, but holy h... they show them pretty much trying to revive greg for like 2 minutes... guys look at the sky or show some cars, roll some ads... that was shocking!
esa carrera tenia que haberse terminado en el minuto @15:45, esa carrera la vi en vivo !! terrible crash !! RIP GREG MOORE
Not blaming anything on Richie Hearn but dammit if he wouldn't have crashed neither would have Greg.
The only reason Greg crashed was due to the restart. Otherwise everything would have been fine.
🤷🏻♂
Greg Moore should not have competed that race! R.I.P.
And Gonzalo Rodriguez should have been skipped qualifying at Laguna Seca
He was there to race. That's what racers do. Even the elevated risk, competing with a compromised hand, was acceptable to Greg. Racers are not ordinary people, which gives us so many opportunities to marvel at them. He was set to give us more marvelous moments that day, if not for the tragedy.
15:43 Greg moore Death And Fatal crash
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15:43 :(
15:43 this was a bad moment
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24years
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1:36:50 😭😭
I literally dropped my 1997 IBM Thinkpad 760XL while I was working on my business work and watching the race when I saw he unexpected crash. It's was so terrifying and it's even more terrifying watching it on my big Sony XBR Trinitron at the time. Official allow the injured man to race is like allowing 5 years old kid to have a driver license. crap offical
Why they didn't cancel the race after this fatal accident? Why?
Post-factum explanation: since Wheldon's tragedy there's a tendency within drivers culture, where if there's a possibility that driver has suffered (at least) very serious injuries, race is stopped. In the past, the race had to be finished above anything.
Standard operating procedure. The impact happened completely away from the racing surface, so the yellow flag didn't need to last long. Cancelling the race was not necessary.
Won't watch this
It has been 25 years since Greg Moore has died
The racing community still misses you Greg 🪽🕊️🏆
1975-1999
No Brasil ficamos sabendo da morte antes do VT que o SBT exibia a noite pelo Fantástico da Globo. Na transmissão do SBT era visível a tristeza do narrador Teo José em ter que noticiar a morte de Moore. Posso estar enganado mas o Premiere transmitiu ao vivo essa corrida como fez ao longo de 1999 ja que o SBT exibia só os VTS as 23h da noite,apenas Japão Brasil Saint Louis e Austrália foram ao vivo.
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