What Happens If Delta Force Fires An Operator? Truth Revealed!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ม.ค. 2024
- Former Delta Force officer Jeff Tiegs speaks with David Hookstead about what happens if someone is a bad fit at The Unit.
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Can you please get Kevin Holland on your podcast? Served in Delta and Seal Team 6, an absolute legend who pulled Saddam out of his bunker
@pithius2191 what? Never heard that story.
@@sarahlapointe8339 For real. Google Holland and Jack Carr interview. Most amazing story ever.
Mr. Tiegs comes across as someone who could be a high school teacher, a banker, or your neighborhood postman. No bravado, no macho , no BS. Just telling a story. But, when he gets to the point of the story when he describes how one role is "vengence" , to me, just the way he said it, and the subtle change in his eyes, reminded me that this wax one of the most dangerous people on the planet.
Agree 100%, what makes him look like a "common citizen" is exactly what makes him dangerous; never mess with the guy who looks like the quietest guy in the group.
Well put. This is a man who most people intellectually dismiss as a log floating in the river but fail to spot the alligator just under the surface.
Never underestimate an older man in a profession where men die young. Make no mistake, this man is STILL one of the most dangerous on the planet. Just because he is no longer violent doesn't mean he has forgotten how to be. Thank God for men like this. Glad he made it home safely to be with his family.
That's the reality of a lot of these top crust guys. They could be just anybody. Makes me respect them that much more
Yes we are....the quite professionals. Toughest men I've ever known were the men I served with but you never knew it.
Thanks for avenging my Marine Corps Brothers Sir.
As an old Army grunt I say -- Thank you for avenging those young marines.
Semper Fi. And Sua Sponte.
As an Aussie ex-vet, I love how you guys look after each other and how your nation, for the most part, are grateful for your service. Well done boys!
They really aren't grateful. Most Americans are like every other civilian
Don't be fooled. Most Americans don't give a flip. TikTok Airsofters are held in higher regards.
The US military LOVES working with the aussies. I had a great time with the few lads I got to train with. You're great fighters and we get along like old friends. If the UK was our dad that makes us brothers! I've had a different experience, a lot of places offer military discounts and even though I'm retired they'll still give it to me and always thank me up and down. I don't think I did anything special but there's still a lot of love for the boys in green, just maybe not in the hippie, dippie community.
Thank you buddy....been down under a couple of times, enjoyed your country.
As a vet 90% of the US, especially our own government, dont give a single fk about us. Most ppl dont think about or understand anything outside their little bubble.
Skills can be taught, but chemistry is the real magic of a cohesive unit. ⚜️⭐️
Thanks for avenging those Marines.
As someone with chronic pain for which there is no cure, can confirm, definitely changes your mind and you don't even know it's happening. Things that can just turn you off have a much greater appeal.
I was in a critical moto accident putting me in a coma taking several years to heal, the first time i woke up they put me back incorrect causing nerve pain. I had to recover 2 months only for them to break me apart and fix it. While that 2 months was happening i was in constant severe nerve pain. I wanted to kill myself. So i get it. Its a pain so deep no one know unless they have had it.
dig on chlorine dioxide and DMSO brother. Andreas Kalcker book is a good guide.
All the best to you!
Same. Until you've experienced it, you don't understand how horrendous it is
Chronic pain -CBD OIL helped me post military
As a Marine, thank you sir for avenging my brothers. 🫡
Army guy here. Thank you for avenging those Marines.
Whoever thought of that false exfill?
Strategic move nobody saw coming.....
I think PEDs should be encouraged when talking about healing.. This isn't baseball. It's not a game.
"Selection is a continuing process."
Some have said Dev Gru Green Hell is much harder than SEAL BUDS.
@@DavidLLambertmobile All SEALs pass BUDS. Not all SEALs make it to Devgru
I heard the story by a Marine about the loss of Brothers in the overwatch. The ROE's were absurd. What I didn't hear was about the Delta Force coming in to AVENGE the Marines that were killed.
These guys are so impressive. Always admired the American's leave-no-man-behind attitude and their you-hit-us-we'll-hit-you-ten-times-harder mentality.
Iran navy in 1 day video from Fat electrician is a great example of this lol
@@devonowens3652 Eh?
John A Chapman got left behind to die by the SEALs and then they tried to bury his sacrifice so they wouldn't look bad.
@@BenDover-cq6rr SEALs are always doing suspicious shit. That's why I don't get why everyone want to be one with all due respect.
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Delta has that Batman "I'm Vengeance" attitude. Awesome!
Touch grass
The thing I love about these Unit guys is the switch. I’ve rarely seen one who’s big and buff like the SEALs, they usually look like suburban dudes with fanny packs and not “operators”. But man trust me, they have a switch they flip when it’s time to roll and they are literally frightening. It’s like being in a room with Hannibal Lector, one minute you’re talking culture and philosophy, next second you realize you’re not gonna make it out of the room.
All combat veterans who served in combat units possess that switch dumbass
It's weird you mention the "switch". I was watching some Shrek interviews the other day and I couldn't help but think to myself "maaan, I wonder what this dude is like like when he flips the switch and he's on target"
Well said 🤙🏽
It's not how buff you are Lot your muscle bound guys fail out quicker Its how much team player you are and have mental toughness
Yeah your right!Frogman(seals)special forces from most of the countrys look big with mid-long hair and mid-long beard!but the guys from delta,sas,ksk look like normal dudes,which if you see them you think they have normal jobs
The British army introduced drug testing in the 90,s and anyone tested positive was immediately dishonourably discharged. There were that many positive that the battalions were understrength in a very short space of time so they brought in a certain level of tolerance whereby any offenders had to go on a rehab course and not criminalised. It's a shame to lose good men to drugs.
No good men is ever lost to drugs... only bad men choose drugs.
@@gatocles99are you sure about that?
@@joeclaridy No good man ever chooses drugs.
Drugs are for losers.
Isn't doing drugs basically you're average British late teenager/early 20 year old? Not defending doing them but I'm pretty sure a lot of those people who show up to Glastonbury or the clubs on a Friday night are using something.
@@joeblow9657 most of them are.
You do great work man. Thanks for these interviews.
Normal drug testing does not test for riods. The reality is command has to specifically request a steroid drug test and that is very rare.
I was about to say that sort of stuff would not show in a regular drug panel
Tir-1 units have a little bit different SOP and requirements. Regular units testing for steroids or other exotic substances is a matter of cost. In Tier-1 units testing for everything is a matter of keeping performance at the highest level and protecting the operators that are the best and most expensive assets.
In short terms, they can slide@@haloguy628
@@haloguy628Ranger Batt here , I roided after RASP and got into batt
Tom Satterly was blackballed and forced to retire from delta because of a urine sample that ticked the boxes for PEDs.
Learn, Adapt and then Avenge!
Very well done and thank you.
YOU PULLED THAT TRIGGER... Theres NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF.. YOU'RE a Hero in my eyes..
Simple Answer, Ranger Regiment gets an Awesome NCO...
Imagine having to be the absolute best at all times and at any minute you can lose your job
While yes you are correct imagine if you fail at it or your team mate fails it means you or him or entire team can die. The ultimate trust exercise
That’s why personalities are so important on these teams. Every guy is trusting their life to the other. If you’re gonna do that you gotta like them first.
Story of my life
At least your team would be switched on. :)
Your the Man,Jeff!!!
I had chronic sciatica for two years. The only time I wasn't in pain was when I mixed liquor with muscle relaxers. It made me a more serious person.
That's fcked up
..pain meds and alcohol DO NOT MIX.. NO WAY.. I take dilauudedd..never could mix alcohol and function.. I've had 4r spine surgery - 8 screws. plate..vertebrae cage.. and never mix even a beer..
I can relate. Sciatica ain’t no joke.
Sometimes they're sent to ODA's. Sometimes they become Team Sergeants. Sometimes they're the biggest disgruntled assholes you could ever meet.
I thought they sent them to heavy mech units
what a great story, and hell yeah it was a huge success...
Thank you for avenging my fellow Marines. Loyalty is what makes America great. Semper Fidelis
Goddamn, that last story. Absolute legendary.
Love seeing old clips 😅
In an SFODA, you go to the B Team, you sit there until another Team Sergeant gives you a chance. If you don’t move back to a team because you can’t “get it” they send you to BN Headquarters, and you work your MOS in an HQ capacity. If you are an 18E, you’ll work for the BN Commo shop, if your an 18B, you may get the Arms room, or BN HQ Arms room. Once you “get it” you’ll go to a team that is hurting for people. This is your last chance to get on a team…..screw that up, you’re on a BTeam, then when they need bodies for SWC, pack your bags.
I think Tom satterly spoke about being sort of kicked out/forced to retire from Delta force for having some steroids in his system. Apparently he ordered stuff online but wasn’t aware of the contents, I think he was buying some workout supplements and it had some chemicals that was tested and came out positive as a hit on the test. Some doctor or something in the army didn’t bother believing in Tom and pushed the issue which made him retire.
They don’t just sell steroids in workout supplements at GNC lol. He had to of been looking for it
Jeff seems like a brilliant and down to earth guy. Outstanding interview. Wish I knew if he knew Shrek!!! You should interview Mr. McPhee
Why would you care? Get the punisher sticker off your truck and live your life
John mcpee has already been interviewed....
@@nickjohnson710 Not on this podcast
@@northsky5629 why are you here?
@tonym6854 Yes, he has ......I watched the interview
In my short time there. I seen this tactics. Well done.
Very informative.
I recall a few SEALs who spoke of a Navy Ensign, BUD/S trainee who was so obnoxious, over bearing, crass the Navy cadre, mental health unit, Spec War officers DXed the guy. Something that rarely happens: 2000-2020 era except for a background issue or $$$ problem. The Ensign was in great shape, passed all exams, tests. He just was not a Teams ⚓️ guy.
I think you're referring to Dan bilzerian,he passed bud's and got kicked because he was a narcissist.
@@ronnieettienne6335, I don't think Bilzerian graduated BUD/S. He is one of the dudes that wouldn't have made selection, though.
@@ronnieettienne6335So is it safe to say that most of these operators are not narcissists? I know they have type-a personalities and this correlates to narcissism but it’s pretty cool if most of them don’t think the world revolves around them. I’m just kinda surprised that they don’t givin their skillset
@@Abbadon66666 I went to airborne school with a few seals and they were a solid group of sailors who wanted to serve with the best.
@@ronnieettienne6335 That’s cool man. It’s like their training just beats the narcissism out of them then
Back when I was a private, cool guys could walk on water, eat bullets, and shit ice cream. Going into the Iraq invasion my first sergeant was a delta guy that got jammed up and had to do his penitence over an infraction. They stuck him in HHC because my company commander was a navy seal who got jammed up and wouldn't stay in the navy if he wasn't doing some gangster shit so he went to OCS and transferred to the army. Guys like them are are a unique breed. True warriors down to the core, men who wouldn't think twice about walking into hell to do what needs to be done that you'd jump up and follow because you have no question they'd roll with you.
I remember doing chin ups in Iraq right after the war and my first sergeant was getting his conditioning back because we hadn't been able to run in months. Dude ran about 5 miles at a dead sprint in his body armor, with his kevlar, weapon and ammo. Ran up to the pullup bars we had just built and his little 5'5" ass jumped up grabbing that bar like Michael Jordan. I was probably at about 15 when he started telling me "If you can't do at least 60 chin ups in your gear, you're fucking worthless in urban operations!" I laughed and he'd already dropped and hit his sprint again as I finished up getting about 25-28 or something. I watched him sprint around this road like a psychopath and what he said finally sank in. That wasn't a joke. He probably banged out 60 chin ups giving himself a quick rest while he was sprinting his laps.
The ol' number 6... Marvelous!
Best at the basics.
A buddy from SF told me to beware of the "Four W's" -- wine, women, weapons, and wehicles.
that goes for the whole military
Rofl wtf is a wehicle
@@zergtoss1 car or "Vehicle"
@@kevinnunya9714 it’s that simple lol
That’s fucking awesome to hear
So weird hearing this juxtaposed with Adam Brown. I can’t remember if he was in development group or just in a seal team at that point and I can’t remember if his command ever knew about it, but the dude was addicted to crack before he joined the navy and had a relapse when he was a seal.
Also, D-Day was postponed a day due to weather.
Edit: none of this is to say that Adam Brown wasn’t a complete badass. He died in Afghanistan with development group and at that point, he was missing all the fingers on his right hand and had one eye. He may have been missing a leg too but I can’t remember and I don’t think so. Dude kicked an addiction to crack and learned to shoot at a tier one level left handed and with one eye
My son was in bud/s with Brown’s nephew. He was still highly regarded. My son said his nephew is a good guy and spent time with his nephew as a cold wet sugar cookie
Appreciate this topic. Almost verbatim described my work history, during and after my 6 years, non combat in the Air Force. I tend to question silliness, incompetence, not sparing my own by the way, of various experiences in and out of the service. It can get very lonely quick, I found out, and somehow I danced between the rain drops till I gladly got out. There is no question in my mind how service personnel came home with problems, who didn't question the idiocy of what they experienced, including criminality which I didn't recognize then, but do now! Great topic, guest, and show. By the way, my prime example is the Mike Murphy story who vehemently questioned being sent in with 3 other operators in the Red Wing debacle, where satellite images showed very dangerous, sparse vegetation-coverage for their own protection, against a force of 100+ Taliban forces, and you know the death/disaster that followed.
There was an episode of "The Unit" where Jonas asked Mac what was wrong, he said there are three things that can mess a guy up, Booz, Bucks or Broads... It was a broad, he slept with Crystal and then she was blackmailing him because he decided to cut it off. I LOVE that show.
Also my favorit tv-show of all times because its shows how hard it is for people in that field to balanse career and family life when your in the unit or any other tier 1 unit.
Was hoping Cool Breeze could’ve made a cameo as a sergeant major or something in Seal Team
@@enzov9772 that would have been awesome, I love when shows in the same theater do crossovers.
There is a little truth in many of thier episodes, cause there are many episodes where I knew about the actual event the plot was based on😂,very erie, but cool
@@CallsItLikeISeizeIts that is pretty awesome. I knew it was put out by Shawn Ryan and I had a feeling that he used previous experience for some episodes.
Awesome stories, thank you:)
Just Chris Vansant's story of the Battle of Bargal, that ambush eotry was badass too!
This guy comes across as an awesome leader, a really great one even the most hardened NCO’s would run through a wall for. I doubt this dude had any sugar daddies in the Army, he sounds similar to the way Scott Miller lead. Impressive American.
Was a success, hell of a mission I bet. Team work and tactics becomes almost a talent. They thought they where going to just have a little fire fight and kill our guys. Guess what catch me outside how bout that! Who Dares Wins!! True statement made that day! You guys are awesome for what you do. Thanks to all you service members
You should read "War is a Racket" by Smedley Butler. Some things never change...
I will check it out!!!
I really wish The Unit made a reappearance on tv. That was the best show to exist
SEMPER FI SIR
Those last three words ofbthe video hit me hard.😢
The Team House had an interview with a Delta Operator that was fired, told to leave the Unit. It was due to several things, including difference of opinion on strategy and disclosing the event to someone. He wasn't given an option to go to a different squadron. Turns out later on in his career he ends up working for the guy that got him kicked from the unit. forgot the guy's name.
There's no reason PED's should be banned among service members, as long as they are prescribed by a Dr.
There were some crazy roes out there at one point you needed to take fire to do anything
He has definately spent time with the British military, every now and then he says the odd British slang phrase
There is no way the military is intentionally testing their top tier personnel for performance enhancers. A veteran friend of mine told me a majority of the SF operators he came across were quite open about the use of HGH, Test E, blood doping, etc. They are completely justified in using PEDs but it is ridiculous to portray that as being some kind of violation of the culture.
this guy graduated at the top of his class!!!!! (they give it to you lol [government issued])
SF guys may generally tell the average joe they're using PEDs, but will keep those secrets from their command/superiors at all costs
They don’t test you for it unless you fuck up . When the government decides to crack down on someone especially if they want you out of the military they get for what they know your likely to pop for
😉😏👍💪👊🇺🇸
FINALLY!! I’ve heard the PED rumour in Australia. Always wondered if it was true.
I was never able to avenge anyone or anything. My war was filled with extreme moments of violence and adrenaline and only ghosts to shoot back at.
Range 19 2005 :) life changing ~
the CIA swoops in and picks them up
Yep
Or Erik Prince ....
Beautiful
Wondered about this. I’ve always wondered how they deal with pain, I’ve never been on the military but been on pain meds for 30+yrs.
What unit were the Marines with?
They go back to Ranger battalion or a group….. just like when our Ranger gets to DUI, they go to group
I didn't sleep for several years due too misery and suffering beyond brutal. Not sure how I made it but I did
By the rule book to hold a security clearance. Your not suppose to dabble in ALCHOL, drugs, lot lizards etc. anything you can be extorted or compromised with. but here’s the unfortunate truth. I know dozens of guys who went years in Delta & Devgru who were using Benzos, Z-Drugs (Ambien), Opiods, & ALCHOL on a daily basis. Technically dependent/addicted. Also they normalize infidelity. So everything that’s a problem I’ve seen it equally from JSOC, SOCOM, and military in general. But it seems to be worse in SOF. You will hear publicly “Ohh We DONT DO THAT! WE DONT ALLOW IT!” My experience is. Everybody turns a blind eye up until it starts interfering with work. But if your functioning they would just ignore it. This is why TBI/PTSD/Suicides we always find the guys on drugs or ALCHOL are mostly the ones that struggle the most. The sober ones I never hear them mention it.
all true, been there, done that....
The government will never understand what it takes to be a warrior. And a damn few know.
Our President is gonna need everyone of you guy's 💖🙏 to fix this mess we're in,, Trouble is heree in America let's not forget it ,,we serve the Constitution
No one bends, you mesh if you’re a good officer.
i know a person who was kicked for a richocet in the tire house that hit another operator he was kicked down to 5th group
The three chronics, pain, fatigue and stress, are killers.
It would suck to go through all of that hell just to get tossed off of a team.
I used to be a A&P mechanic and was a civil service employee for the Navy and I worked on their helicopters during depot maintenance, I saw a Navy guy walk in the hangar one day in his dress whites and I noticed the rocker on his shoulder said Seal Team Two and later he comes out in a flight suit with these other guys in flight suits, they were called AWs and I was thinking what's a SEAL doing flying with AWs??So I wondered if he got in trouble or something and they put him in a aviation unit to train as a AW.
If you make it to Delta, have been there for a few years, then want to return to SF. Is that an option? Has there been any guys wanting to do that?
The mentality of "you fuck with us and we're gonna fuck with you" has always fascinated me in regards to military outlook. Like here, Jeff wants vengeance for the Marines that were killed. He says "who do you think you are? You have the balls to do that?". Well.....who does he think HE is? Here we are, spending decades in these people's country, and you're upset with them for fighting back. "You fuck with us and we're gonna fuck with you", well, Jeff, what is it you think the US spent 20 years doing?
I thought the same thing.
He's in their country. What does he expect them to do?
Get in where you fit in.
They go to a line company.
The ambush sounds like the ambush from sons of anarchy
I've seen two guys canned.
Richard NMI Marcinko USN O-5 SEAL served 18mo BoP Camp in Petersburg VA. He details it in Rogue Warrior.
The thought that these tier 1 units don’t have a program to use performance drugs as safely as possible to limit damage to the body is kinda crazy to me.
Biology is a tool. When you go, you don’t go with out all the tools in the belt.
Maybe I’m wrong.
I engaged in a firefight against some marine killers. We all wanted to push hard, but got told to throw lead and hunker down, my 249 was hot af that day.
Great Video, Why the squadren concept instead of a Battalion or Brigade?. How many people in a squadren? Also, Where does Mr Tiegs see the Teams future is? Dows he feel they will forget the lessons of the past WOT or keep them in their essence?
*squadron
Delta was built to mimic the SAS, which is divided into squadrons. It's a holdover from Charlie Beckwith's days.
Squadron should be a battalion size element whereas a troop should be a company size element if they're using big army nomenclature.
The squadron concept was used by the SAS. COL Beckwith served with them in the 1960s and used this experience as a basis when the Unit was formed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Alvin_Beckwith
@@reydoubleohseven1326 Thank You so much, such a fascinating group. I understand other than BA, there is a whole other SF world out there, and rightfully so. These interviews are great.
'they go away for a while and then come back' where/what is the 'go away' place?
Forgive my simplistic approach…. Thank you sir! As one who is 50 years old, watch movies dreamt about the hero position owns guns in a home yet is not a military badass, I said, thank you. I don’t you thank you I think your family for their sacrifice as well. Cannot be easy wanna log away in theater handling business And the family is just left. Fingers crossed, hoping the best. I think that sacrifices itself is probably more difficult to some extent.
A clear case of indiscriminate fire.
Can you ask your guests about foreign SF units they worked with, and their input on who they think is a worthy Unit to work with?
The average ANA guy was just as good if not better than our best SOF guys ;)
@@556m4 thank you for answering my Q, but what I meant was "any NATO SF UNIT". Can you elaborate on this? Thanks.
lol@@556m4
556m4 was being cheeky with that answer kas…
He must not know much about the Military at all if he didn't get that joke. @@user-copiadeamigo
Did he say they amassed "by the hundreds"??? These dudes really are on another level. Also i saw John Satterly on another pod and he mentioned his experience w a false positive for PEDs and how the command dealt w it - which seems different from what was said here. Curious as to which is more accurate
My philosophy was never to be in a relationship while in certain units. I was away all the time as a trainer and advisor and a 19D instructor, and I trained the DEA to deploy to Afg. And it worked great. Women are a nightmare if you are gone all the time.
Why is taking performance enhancing drugs an issue for special forces? I would think it would be more beneficial than anything...
I really thought the thumbnail meant this was going to be a video of an operator getting declassified lol. HE HAS A HEAD!
I would call instead of performance-enhancing drugs but serious muscle repair drugs which in reality is a Band-Aid you may think stuff heal but in reality it has not
Take out of rotation for a year or 2. Boy thats rough. But its gotta be for Delta
Imagine telling a warrior they can't go fight because they took supplements to make them a better warrior... need to have teams of doctors managing those supplements to make them stronger, not pushing them out..
Exactly.
Then he doesn't belong
Depends on what you mean by supplements. If its just food stuff, amino acids or whatever, then great. Drugs, steroids, no.
@dm0065 there's absolutely nothing wrong with a doctor managing testosterone in a 35 or 40 year old dude. There are great benefits and essentially no negative effects as long as there are regular blood tests. I'm not talking about tren or deca or anything like that. I agree there is no need for those.
@@humang disagree
Another way to push drugs.
We never needed these things in the past.
Hearing these guys talk about stuff that is clearly the problem with the military is always a blast.
I just watched a TH-cam video about a Delta Force operator who was fired for drugs
Then he murdered his SF buddy
Then he and another man were murdered during a drug deal near Ft Bragg
I would imagine if an operator got shot up or blown up and survived and then be told thanks for your service now go sit on the side lines would be the toughest pill to swallow.
Go away for a year or few? That’ll be my retirement right there
7:06 I wonder if he was in on the El Chapo hit.