@@Sakosaga To be fair, they lost plenty of potential buyers by announcing the end of the Hemi, straying from V8s in general. Consumers don't want EV Dodges. They hardly want the Hurricanes. I've worked for two separate Dodge dealers as a tech, and the sales have plummeted both post-Covid and from the announcement. The entire American car market [minus Tesla] has been struggling, between price gouging (which the "Last Call" certainly didn't help in Stellantis' case), green mandate BS, and just the general economy from inflation and covid. But yes, compared to the path they projected over the last few years, V8s would be certainly more profitable.. especially if you-know-who keeps to his word of breaking up a lot of the green policy agreements.
Not a chance. The new V8, if they do it, will not be 318 simple and very basic power. Far more likely is a boosted very small displacement engine. The next generation of V8 would need to be everything the 318 never was. It'll need to be a lot smaller than a 318 displacement and bigger power than a 426 Hemi. 50-60 years ago the very suggestion of such an engine would have been met with blank stares followed by laughter. Today RAM trucks are being delivered to new buyers with a 3.0 liter inline six (40% smaller displacement than the old school 318) and 540HP (net) is available vs the old school 426 Hemi's 425HP (gross)........ I'd do a percentage difference but this power difference is even bigger in favor of the modern inline 6 than numbers alone suggest. (net) vs (gross) over rates the old engine while under-rating the new engine. Modern MPG requirements and power can't co-exist without "Boost". I think you can count on the idea of a new V8, if it happens, being at least a single Turbo and possibly twin turbo. Today it seems like the most fuel efficient power producer with no real argument to be made against it.
I'm open to a new V8, but for the time being they should absolutely drop the 6.4 in that thing and make it a real scat pack for under 50k, yea I'm dreaming...
Exactly, the V8 option will be a tier above the hurricane option, which is already astronomically out of reach for everyone. Gone are the days of cheap power which made Dodge so successful. RIP to Dodge if they don't figure this out soon.
@@dat8835 be careful man it's been sitting for a while and ruines the car I wouldn't get one unless I have an independent mechanic replenish replaced and lube the car Like the fuel The transmission fluid The blinker fluid The tire are gonna have to be new and just Many more things if I would want to buy 1 cause it's been sitting for about 500-800 days in the lot
Great news! I bought my first Mopar vehicle in 1970 during my senior year of high school-a canary yellow Roadrunner with a 383, four-barrel carburetor, and, of course, a Hemi. That car ignited a lifelong passion for Mopar, which continues today with my Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn, 5.8 liter, yes with a Hem. When I first heard about Dodge and other automakers planning to go all-electric, I couldn’t believe it. No true muscle car enthusiast wants a muscle car with an electric motor and artificial engine sounds-it’s just not the same. Thankfully, with President Trump’s push to reduce restrictive energy policies and encourage domestic drilling, Dodge, Chrysler, and Stellantis have rethought their approach. It’s great to see them stepping back and continuing to produce some of the most iconic muscle cars ever made.
The Hemi engines isn’t permanently gone but with rumors that’s getting ppl on edge on the possible return of the V8 for the new charger and it’s a maintainable engine and it won’t be a pain in the butt to work on and what not but they need to bring the real brotherhood of muscle back when the rumors become for real of a new V8 for Dodge
Dodge should have had a V8 version of the Charger Daytona in its portfolio all along, instead of only a six-cylinder version. Now they are bringing back the V8, which is good! I want the fully loaded V8 version. 😍🔥 #MuscleCar #Dodge #ChargerDaytona #V8 #Cars #Automobiles
With Trump in Office and Carlos Tavares gone it’s a possibility, but the development of this engine has not been completed so let’s see how fast they can crank it out. Also, the electric version charger weighs an absolute ridiculous amount. It’s heavier than the Tesla model S plaid, which will absolutely destroy it. I don’t believe the EV version of the new charger is a viable option.
EVs aren't the future yet. The technology and inefficiencies are not up to replace the longer ranges and more reliable regular ICE and especially hybrid cars. They should have just made a smaller hemi V8 matched to a hybrid system and called it a day. The hurricane engine will NOT age well.
or they could just bring the 2015-2023 chargers back and do a huge refresh on those, same style just more modernized, new interior (bc people act like children and cry and whine over old interior but idc about interior) and keep it rwd bring gen 3 hemis back or make gen 4 hemis and more power the cars that WOULD save the company: 2015-2023 chargers/challengers, hugely refreshed and modernized, vipers, magnums, keep the durango, 300, trx, wrangler 392 and even a hellcat wrangler idea wise: hellcat powered viper, hellcat redeye 300, hellcat/scat pack/rt magnum, chargers, challengers and durangos stay the same (could make a redeye durango too), and a 2025 trackhawk in the new wk3 could always bring the dakota back too
Yessss to all the above. I’d even trade in my new “last call” 300C for a new 300 Redeye with the same features/colors/spec as the one in my garage now. It’s an easy cash grab for them! Otherwise I’m just gonna laugh at the current strategy. Build the car I want and they can STFU & Take My Money💸 lol
I don't know why Dodge has to work on a new V8 engine for the Charger. That will take a lot of time and effort. They already have a winner in the HEMI engine. Just stick it in the new Charger and be done with it.
How about if they stuff one of them monster motors under the hood of an all wheel drive dodge Dakota 🤔 sort of like the GMC S-15 truck from the late 80s
All of the above for v8 options. They definitely need a new v8 platform, but even putting in a 5.7 hemi in the short term will do wonders for the brand.
The 5.7 will get smoked by any variation of the Mustang or even the Hurricane I6 TT Chargers. I would take an HO Hurricane I6 TT over a 5.7 Hemi any day.
@@HighTechBull Dodge fans want a V8 - and quickly. Doesn't matter if the tt i6 is faster than a 5.7, they don't want an i6, or a Bev. They want a v8, and if the 5.7 can happen sooner rather than later in the new charger, then they'd sell a ton of them.
The 5.7 will fit right in. You even said at the first of video. Do to regulations you have to use current carb rules on any new vehicle platforms. If the frame is a 65 seat belts are optional 😂. Its about ur vehicles year of production. Less rules on older vehicles platforms. 5.7 is way more buildable. If they want to sell aftermarket performance parts and tunes. They should choose the 5.7 Hemi.
Dodge: ok here it is the new electric dodge charger no v8 all prius power everybody: NO WE DONT WANT IT Dodge: ALRIGHT ALRIGHT FINE HAVE AN INLINE 6 everybody: NO WE DONT WANT THAT EITHER Dodge: jesus christ FINE HERE HAVE YOUR V8
Hoooraaaayyy, it’s literally that simple. They can even make it a Hybrid and we’ll still prefer that over the other 2 stupid solutions they’re attempting 😂
A V8 hybrid would literally be perfect for this car and it’s what they should have went with for this, a V8 to power the rear wheels and a electric motor to power the front when slippage is detected (able to be turned off for fun)
Even as the rumor mill churning of a new V8 for the challenger and charger has many petitioning for the magnum line of engines make a comeback along with the undead hemi. With the HD ram lineup possibility getting an enlarged Cummins and word of a manual being offered. With the rumor mill churning of the magnum line of engines being offered has many petitioning for a V10 to return to the HD ram lineup.
Always figured they were working on a new V8, but I don't think they're gonna keep the Hemi design strictly due to the fact they are so inefficient on gas and their low smog rating. Can't wait to see what this new Magnum engine has to offer.
Bring back the 6.4. 5.7 is just not enough. The Hellcat is 13 mpg no matter how you drive it. The 6.4 is perfect. I have a 2019 Scat Pack. Great car. Great engine.
The V8 option will be a tier above the hurricane option, which is already astronomically out of reach for everyone. Gone are the days of cheap power which made Dodge so successful. RIP to Dodge if they don't figure this out soon.
I still do not understand, as popular as it was, why Stelllantis/Chrysler did not make a new 300 (none confirmed) as their BEV car and, with ZERO confusion, just make the new Challenger/Charger (Seriously no sedan?) the IC-V maybe a hybrid, but still... It's like the Europeans just do not understand; THIS IS NOT EUROPE! And the keep running Chrysler further in to the ground with each new owner.
Honestly as much as I hate electric cars I don’t think shoving them into mpvs, minivans, and utility vehicles is a bad idea so long as they get to a point where they are efficient enough to be as convenient as gas powered vehicles. Unfortunately it’s not sustainable to keep everything gas powered and even if there was a wag to do it politics is much more in favor of getting rid of them. Tbh I wouldn’t mind driving a slow boring ev minivan as a family car so long as enthusiast cars get to stay fun so if having everything but enthusiast cars go ev is the only way to take pressure off of automakers to go full ev I’m all for it. Super happy to hear the v8 is coming back!
I said this before to someone and I wlll say it here: I will only ever be caught buying one of the newer Chargers is if I can swap it out with a V8. You can praise the new Hurricane's 500 stock horsepower. But to me, a V6 just doesn't click well with a Charger or Challenger. Now they could decide to bring back the Viper with the new Hurricane in it since it is more of a sports car than a muscle car, but having a V8 option both in production and after market makes it worth more to the consumer to buy one. Wether it be a car guy buying a used one on the lot, or one buying it stock with a V8. Dodge has been known for being an icon of American muscle despite the competition being better than them, and to take that image away is like removing goofy antics in Looney Tunes. On the topic of the modern Hemi's, they have been costly to produce as they have been slammed with emissions fees for a good while. If this wasn't an issue then they could redesign the Hemi's to produce more base power, or at the minimum, have a better traction control system or AWD system for all models and trims so they people can use them in areas where snow is a problem (shout out to my Canadian Mopar lovers out there!). However they more than likely won't be able to as it would cost them too much to produce and thus make their stock pricing go up than it already is (stock 2023 Charger RTs are like almost 51k), so a brand new V8 that solves the emissions fees problem while maintaining the V8 muscle image. In conclusion if the V8 Magnum name makes a return, we will get a V8 option, but at the cost of the iconic Hemi engine. It's a win but at what cost situation.
LETS GO!!!!! If they bring back a V8 in the new charger I will take everything bad I said about the new charger back. If Dodge is see this exact comment BRING BACK THE V8 & DO NOT FUCK IT UP!
This why my son truly voted for President Donald Trump for his third time to help bring back the v8 engine back to Dodge. Thank you President Donald Trump DRILL BABY DRILL.
Yes, of course, Trump is now responsible for Dodge building a new 8 cylinder… but only you believe that, soon Trump will also be the new god… men wake up, such nonsense…🥴🥴
As far as I know of the V6 sells more so of course make a few EV’s and V8 and see what sells the most personally I would still give the VA option and just make it limited to make sure that you sell all of them
I LOVE the look of the new charger especially the 2 door variant. I will never get one unless it has a V8 Edit: or until they become cheap enough to swap a v8 into it lol
It's a 292 cubic inch DOC 90 degree v8 dual turbo there is 2 hp tunes up to 550 hp @ 5800 rpm 480 lbs torque at 2800 rpm. Fuel economy est. 18 city 23 hwy. Block all aluminum with cast iron liners cast in uses some tech off 3.6 v6
I have said all along that most people don't want EVs. Dodge needs to be remerged with Ram and become a full line automaker again. These new V8s also need to be used by Ram. Jeep could also use the V8s but I would understand if they decided to stick with the turbo inline sixes.
If it's not broken, why fix it. Keep the 5.7 as middle of the road power plant, the 392 as the big bore get it done and the new 4 6 magnum as the entry level and do away with that hurricane pos, untried and untested
I fucking knew it. There's no way they could let the V8 die. Those inline 6 and EV motors, won't last long, they'll sit on a lot and be sold for pennies compared to the money grab of v8's! To let the competition, (Ford) be the only brand with an actual muscle car out there would be foolish, and could cause Stellantis to dig their own grave. The muscle cars may have changed over the years, but the V8 can't ever die. Now the real question is what is Chevrolet going to bring back for the Camaro?
Screw the electric version. That's a major loser. V8 is really the ONLY way to go. The inline 6 is ok for a budget version, but the electric?!?!............I will NEVER drive an EV!
@@berniemelanson102 The hurricane has more MPG than the Hemi, not by much but still. If they can fix the engine problems, it's a more powerful engine than the HEMI. The HEMI is tried and true but old and tbh Dodge/Stellantis would do well to improvise and design a new V8 engine. The currenty COYOTE and LT2 engines from the competitors demolishes the HEMIs nowadays...
@@panamaklz😅 no they dont you got your fact wrong here. The hemi makes more power than the others always has. More tq to. And when you modify them thats also true. Plus the trans can hold more than fords and chevys. Your mistaking weight for power here were not talking about weight were talking about the engine and thus far the hellcat motor fromb15 eats the cris hanson predator stock and modified. Also the competitors use aluminum blocks that dont hold the power without sleeves. And lastly they dont get destroyed lol what your seeing is scats and rts getting beat up on the coyote is the only na car thats is fully forged. Hellcats you see getting beat because people think a couple bolt ons are enough against more modified and lighter cars then f around and get beat and most of the time its roll racing on the street not the drag strip. Where is fords 1500hp drop in motor or chevy? Wheres their 1000hp drop in chevy sells a big ass 632 na thats about it. Do a little reasearch. And the hurricane does have problems and i believe what their talking about with mpg is that when you devide you want to lead foot it then it will eat more fuel than a na hemi will probably more than the 392 if i had to guess its a turbo car. Also its aluminum blocked. People buy dodge because they are the only ones with a muscle car if we wanted a euro inline we would just get a bmw because they are the leaders at those. 2 valves are still the most used drag racing motor today not 4 valves because of the tq value and the fact you can gain vubic inches when bored and stroked. People buy dodge because they like to drag race. And if the 2 calve hemi was so old then why are they still the most powerful v8 in drag racing history still used today in top fuel. Guess what those dont have lol inlines or 4 valves or direct injecting or turbos.
Also the camaro was dicontinues because they woyldnt play the hp war. Ford waited until dodge went ev and then came out with the new gen 4 coyote to beat the scats power by adding a hotter tune and dual intakes so they can add carbon traps for emission thats about it then turned around and had motor craft from canada do the gtd, steve saleen do a few, and john whipple got the blower contract ford effectively didnt really do anything other than the 2020 gt500 that took them from 15-20 to make to vompete with the hellcat while didge spits out a 840hp demon in 18 and then a c170 before they exited the game having 1025 hp or 900whp. Checy made the eray a hybrid and the z06 670 hp supercar thats mid engine na and waiting on the new zr1 thats going to be 300 plus k. So yeah dodge still ran the game for motors and still are. If they weighed the same it it wouldnt even be fair at any race. Like it hate it these are facts. Ford cant even build their own ford gt or their mustang gtd or their whipple 850 hp mustang lol. Go ahead and slap a whipple 3.0 on a hellcat and see what happens you will blpw the trans before you get all the power out of the motor 😅. And yes im aware they say pump gas 93 which is a crock it makes mid 700s to the wheels with octane booster. A regular hellcat can do that without a whipple fyi and were not even talking a redeye here were talking the old 2.4l blower 😂. Damb people really dont know crap about these cars do they. The most sought after and the most hated yet nobody know anything about them. let me know when a stock oem block from chevy or ford crest 2500hp ill wait.
From a mechanical standpoint the pushrod v8 Hemi makes the most sense to me and many shade tree mechanics too. Sure bring the magnum series v8's back see what it will do. Just don't expect and true muscle car lover to ever fall in love with a hurricane.
I was at a car showing and they said Not Happening..... a Twin Turbo V 6 in going in that vehicle...I said it first. I know people are saying v8 but its not its a V6 period.
GM does not offer any car - coupe or sedan - with a V8 except for the Corvette. The Corvette has gone from affordable sports car to ridiculously priced super car. Take a look at the starting prices of the Corvette. They make the overpriced Stellantis cars look like a bargain. Chevrolet discontinued the Camaro, and have been making overtures of it returning as a 4 door EV CUV? What like that stupid Ford Mach-E? No thanks.
The last 4.7 OHC Magnum was a ginormous turd. If they have any hopes of using it in a truck they should stick with pushrod. While Ford still uses the Coyote in F150 the fact that they finally gave up on OHC engines in the heavier frames tells you all you need to know. Trucks need power in low and mid range RPMs when doing truck things and that means pushrod.
so your excited that they might take the awd EV and come out with a rwd Hemi... thats slower? why would anyone with at least half a brain want that? lol
The V8s were NOT profitable in the cars . That was the problem over the last few years. Dodge simply couldn't keep passing on the cost of failure to meet mandated "fleet wide MPG" to customers. They simply weren't selling and couldn't sell enough Hornets or any other small cars to offset all those RAM trcuks and Muscle Cars. A new smaller more fuel efficient V8 would be very welcomed though. Chrysler is making a big thing of it's new inline super small displacement 6 cylinder. 540HP out of a peanut sized displacement is as they describe it "dense power" twin turbos get the job of so much power out of such a small displacement possible. Makes you wonder what similar tech might get out of a small V8......wonder no more.....look a Chevy's new killer Corvette. 1065HP out of a relatively small displacement V8. This is win/win stuff. The Hemi engines as we have known them over the past 15 years ran clean enough but came up short of MPG requirements to avoid steep fines for not meeting over all "fleet gas milage". This meant dodge was losing big on most of the cars they were selling and it explains why those prices for Challengers and Chargers kept going up so much faster than simple inflation trends alone could explain. The big Hemi designs had to go. Yet the public wants a muscle car to have a V8. It's a big piece of the puzzle when talking about a "muscle car" you really can't separate the two and expect sales. The idea of a "densely" powered small V8 though.......best of both worlds. Small displacement suggest far better over all MPG when driven sanely. Turbo Charging as done on the inline 6 Chrysler already has in production or like Chevy does on their own hottest Corvette suggests crazy big power numbers don't have to be in conflict with MPG goals. All Chrysler really needs is the desire to stay in the business of producing Muscle cars.
Too little too late. It will be priced out of everyones reach, just like the current offerings. No budget options at all to speak of. Any V8 they put in there will be a tier above the hurricane and way overpriced.
Too little too late. My own mother bought a 2020 Wrangler. I said you bought a Stellantis? She said what is that? If I could slap her awake thru the phone....She be nursing a black eye
Interesting, how it's all about a V8. Meanwhile, the only "affordable" American V8 sports/muscle car is way down in sales, and its EV imposter is way up....
@ price has nothing to do with quality only an idiot would say that the fact they are goin under for the billionth time proves my point dodge Chrysler whatever make garbage vehicles the plummeting sales shows.
I said it before.. this was only temporary. The Hemi won't stay dead. It's too damn profitable for the company to remain discontinued.
Yeahhh.....no lmao idk about profitable considering their parents company is literally on fire and is trying to get rid of more car brands.
@@Sakosaga To be fair, they lost plenty of potential buyers by announcing the end of the Hemi, straying from V8s in general. Consumers don't want EV Dodges. They hardly want the Hurricanes. I've worked for two separate Dodge dealers as a tech, and the sales have plummeted both post-Covid and from the announcement.
The entire American car market [minus Tesla] has been struggling, between price gouging (which the "Last Call" certainly didn't help in Stellantis' case), green mandate BS, and just the general economy from inflation and covid. But yes, compared to the path they projected over the last few years, V8s would be certainly more profitable.. especially if you-know-who keeps to his word of breaking up a lot of the green policy agreements.
Lmaooo non of their cars are profitable if the he is where profitable there woudnt be thousands of new 23 molars sitting on dealerships
@FecalMattur Trump already is, he ain’t a sleepy joe after all. He understands and the people.
@@theburger_king So you just skim comments/discussions and then make blanket statements? Got it.
New V8 and make the cars lighter
Do you trust the company that makes engines with the lowest possible cost and engineers from Brazil/India/Morocco to build a durable engine?
Problem is this is a big car. I heard it's alot longer and a little wider and taller than the current Challenger which is huge.
@@rogerrussell9544 I trust Dodge making some of the most reliable and powerful engines in the world
@@Mrbobcat7 the new dodge charger is not a lot longer lol it's 9 in longer than the challenger and 8 inches longer than the previous gen charger
@@YoungJayveonthats a lot when it comes to cars
Sounds like they could do a modern spin on the 318 small block V8
Not a chance. The new V8, if they do it, will not be 318 simple and very basic power. Far more likely is a boosted very small displacement engine. The next generation of V8 would need to be everything the 318 never was. It'll need to be a lot smaller than a 318 displacement and bigger power than a 426 Hemi. 50-60 years ago the very suggestion of such an engine would have been met with blank stares followed by laughter. Today RAM trucks are being delivered to new buyers with a 3.0 liter inline six (40% smaller displacement than the old school 318) and 540HP (net) is available vs the old school 426 Hemi's 425HP (gross)........ I'd do a percentage difference but this power difference is even bigger in favor of the modern inline 6 than numbers alone suggest. (net) vs (gross) over rates the old engine while under-rating the new engine. Modern MPG requirements and power can't co-exist without "Boost". I think you can count on the idea of a new V8, if it happens, being at least a single Turbo and possibly twin turbo. Today it seems like the most fuel efficient power producer with no real argument to be made against it.
i have owned more 318 powered mopars than any other engine-in LA and magnum form-the second engine is the hemi
I'm open to a new V8, but for the time being they should absolutely drop the 6.4 in that thing and make it a real scat pack for under 50k, yea I'm dreaming...
Exactly, the V8 option will be a tier above the hurricane option, which is already astronomically out of reach for everyone. Gone are the days of cheap power which made Dodge so successful. RIP to Dodge if they don't figure this out soon.
They can keep the 6.4 it just needs to be heavily updated.
Scats in Texas is 43k
@@imatoastydino yes I'm almost bought a red Scat Challenger a year or so ago. They were asking 47, I might still get one...
@@dat8835 be careful man it's been sitting for a while and ruines the car I wouldn't get one unless I have an independent mechanic replenish replaced and lube the car
Like the fuel
The transmission fluid
The blinker fluid
The tire are gonna have to be new and just Many more things if I would want to buy 1 cause it's been sitting for about 500-800 days in the lot
Great news! I bought my first Mopar vehicle in 1970 during my senior year of high school-a canary yellow Roadrunner with a 383, four-barrel carburetor, and, of course, a Hemi. That car ignited a lifelong passion for Mopar, which continues today with my Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn, 5.8 liter, yes with a Hem.
When I first heard about Dodge and other automakers planning to go all-electric, I couldn’t believe it. No true muscle car enthusiast wants a muscle car with an electric motor and artificial engine sounds-it’s just not the same. Thankfully, with President Trump’s push to reduce restrictive energy policies and encourage domestic drilling, Dodge, Chrysler, and Stellantis have rethought their approach. It’s great to see them stepping back and continuing to produce some of the most iconic muscle cars ever made.
This style of dodge charger demands nothing less than a atlaast a 5.7 hemi, and also a 392. Not a tiny 4.7 failure that bombed in the truck market.
I believe it when I see it. These CEO 's don't know who their buyers are. America can't support ev's yet anyway.
The Hemi engines isn’t permanently gone but with rumors that’s getting ppl on edge on the possible return of the V8 for the new charger and it’s a maintainable engine and it won’t be a pain in the butt to work on and what not but they need to bring the real brotherhood of muscle back when the rumors become for real of a new V8 for Dodge
EV battery weights over 1,000 pounds while an ICE car weights about 500 pounds.
Dodge should have had a V8 version of the Charger Daytona in its portfolio all along, instead of only a six-cylinder version. Now they are bringing back the V8, which is good! I want the fully loaded V8 version. 😍🔥 #MuscleCar #Dodge #ChargerDaytona #V8 #Cars #Automobiles
Get ready for the 426 HEMI „Banshee“
Hellphant banshee...or hellcat rt whatever lol
I want some electrification on the Banshee, do not ask me why but with that name it feels that way.
Banshee hybrid would be the best.
The banshee is already tied to the Daytona EV, it’s the high end trim.
A flat plane crank hemi would be super cool.
@@joshkrause2977 👍🏻
With Trump in Office and Carlos Tavares gone it’s a possibility, but the development of this engine has not been completed so let’s see how fast they can crank it out. Also, the electric version charger weighs an absolute ridiculous amount. It’s heavier than the Tesla model S plaid, which will absolutely destroy it. I don’t believe the EV version of the new charger is a viable option.
EVs aren't the future yet. The technology and inefficiencies are not up to replace the longer ranges and more reliable regular ICE and especially hybrid cars. They should have just made a smaller hemi V8 matched to a hybrid system and called it a day. The hurricane engine will NOT age well.
Nothing wrong with an I-6. Perfectly balanced as all things should be. Although, they should have made it bigger and gave it low boost.
@kyleolin3566 except it's a twin turbo I6 made by dodge that doesn't even have a dipstick. So it will be garbage.
@@alg003Agree 100%
@@alg003 LOL you must feel pretty stupid now that they have proven themselves almost to be bulletproof
Dodge might be done with HEMI’s, but HEMI’s Aren’t done with Dodge.
or they could just bring the 2015-2023 chargers back and do a huge refresh on those, same style just more modernized, new interior (bc people act like children and cry and whine over old interior but idc about interior) and keep it rwd
bring gen 3 hemis back or make gen 4 hemis and more power
the cars that WOULD save the company: 2015-2023 chargers/challengers, hugely refreshed and modernized, vipers, magnums, keep the durango, 300, trx, wrangler 392 and even a hellcat wrangler
idea wise: hellcat powered viper, hellcat redeye 300, hellcat/scat pack/rt magnum, chargers, challengers and durangos stay the same (could make a redeye durango too), and a 2025 trackhawk in the new wk3
could always bring the dakota back too
Yessss to all the above. I’d even trade in my new “last call” 300C for a new 300 Redeye with the same features/colors/spec as the one in my garage now. It’s an easy cash grab for them! Otherwise I’m just gonna laugh at the current strategy. Build the car I want and they can STFU & Take My Money💸 lol
@ absolutely.
A V8 with an option for AWD?
I buy one, that simple.
Any reason for that?
AWD should be for SUVs only. The Challenger and Charger are already heavy at 4200lbs. You're talking another 300
@@charmsly9506to daily
Either ford or dodge is gonna come out with one and I’m gonna buy whichever comes first .or if Chevy makes a more affordable awd v8 corvette .
Awd sucks. No low range, no 4x4
I don't know why Dodge has to work on a new V8 engine for the Charger. That will take a lot of time and effort. They already have a winner in the HEMI engine. Just stick it in the new Charger and be done with it.
How about if they stuff one of them monster motors under the hood of an all wheel drive dodge Dakota 🤔 sort of like the GMC S-15 truck from the late 80s
Now prepare the return of DODGE to NASCAR
the 318 was a good motor 4.7
All of the above for v8 options. They definitely need a new v8 platform, but even putting in a 5.7 hemi in the short term will do wonders for the brand.
The 5.7 will get smoked by any variation of the Mustang or even the Hurricane I6 TT Chargers. I would take an HO Hurricane I6 TT over a 5.7 Hemi any day.
@@HighTechBull Dodge fans want a V8 - and quickly. Doesn't matter if the tt i6 is faster than a 5.7, they don't want an i6, or a Bev. They want a v8, and if the 5.7 can happen sooner rather than later in the new charger, then they'd sell a ton of them.
dodge realized they had pulled a jaguar when nobody wanted a v6 in their muscle car, let alone an ev, so they had to bring it back
The 5.7 will fit right in. You even said at the first of video. Do to regulations you have to use current carb rules on any new vehicle platforms. If the frame is a 65 seat belts are optional 😂. Its about ur vehicles year of production. Less rules on older vehicles platforms. 5.7 is way more buildable. If they want to sell aftermarket performance parts and tunes. They should choose the 5.7 Hemi.
They need a very reliable low cost v8 with mod potential. I love the new interior but prices are getting out of hand.
Dodge: ok here it is the new electric dodge charger no v8 all prius power
everybody: NO WE DONT WANT IT
Dodge: ALRIGHT ALRIGHT FINE HAVE AN INLINE 6
everybody: NO WE DONT WANT THAT EITHER
Dodge: jesus christ FINE HERE HAVE YOUR V8
Hoooraaaayyy, it’s literally that simple. They can even make it a Hybrid and we’ll still prefer that over the other 2 stupid solutions they’re attempting 😂
Give me the damn power! I want 800 plus horsepower in something that was as comfortable and kick ass as my Charger Hellcat. Thank YOU.
Even if true, the price has to be right and fair or they'll sit on the lot just like the chargers are sitting at 60, 70, and 80k.
A V8 hybrid would literally be perfect for this car and it’s what they should have went with for this, a V8 to power the rear wheels and a electric motor to power the front when slippage is detected (able to be turned off for fun)
Long live the V8 king. 😍
I'd offer both the new Magnum and the tried and true Hemi lineup to see which way the wind blows
Even as the rumor mill churning of a new V8 for the challenger and charger has many petitioning for the magnum line of engines make a comeback along with the undead hemi. With the HD ram lineup possibility getting an enlarged Cummins and word of a manual being offered. With the rumor mill churning of the magnum line of engines being offered has many petitioning for a V10 to return to the HD ram lineup.
Hear me out V8 with electric motor by itself having 130 miles range ment for highway commute driving 🕴🏼
Always figured they were working on a new V8, but I don't think they're gonna keep the Hemi design strictly due to the fact they are so inefficient on gas and their low smog rating. Can't wait to see what this new Magnum engine has to offer.
Bring back the 6.4. 5.7 is just not enough. The Hellcat is 13 mpg no matter how you drive it. The 6.4 is perfect. I have a 2019 Scat Pack. Great car. Great engine.
The V8 option will be a tier above the hurricane option, which is already astronomically out of reach for everyone. Gone are the days of cheap power which made Dodge so successful. RIP to Dodge if they don't figure this out soon.
I am happy that there is a chance the charger could get a V8. But I wish they'd bring back the HEMI V8 for the RAM 1500 and 1500 Classic
RAM should bring the 5.7 Hemi back and dodge should bring back a V8 that is more powerful than hellcat with emissions to pass the law
A reliable DOHC V8 would be the best outcome.
I hope it's an all new efficient V8 that way we can have it longer
I still do not understand, as popular as it was, why Stelllantis/Chrysler did not make a new 300 (none confirmed) as their BEV car and, with ZERO confusion, just make the new Challenger/Charger (Seriously no sedan?) the IC-V maybe a hybrid, but still...
It's like the Europeans just do not understand; THIS IS NOT EUROPE! And the keep running Chrysler further in to the ground with each new owner.
HURRICANE- DO IT! i'll buy one right now.!!
Honestly as much as I hate electric cars I don’t think shoving them into mpvs, minivans, and utility vehicles is a bad idea so long as they get to a point where they are efficient enough to be as convenient as gas powered vehicles. Unfortunately it’s not sustainable to keep everything gas powered and even if there was a wag to do it politics is much more in favor of getting rid of them. Tbh I wouldn’t mind driving a slow boring ev minivan as a family car so long as enthusiast cars get to stay fun so if having everything but enthusiast cars go ev is the only way to take pressure off of automakers to go full ev I’m all for it. Super happy to hear the v8 is coming back!
Hybrids are the way to go. The electric and ice work together for range acceleration and gas milage.
Thanks to Trump and not letting the car industry go full electric
Bring back the 340 and couple it with the 6 speed manual 2 door Charger and it'll fly out the door, as long as it's affordable.
I said this before to someone and I wlll say it here: I will only ever be caught buying one of the newer Chargers is if I can swap it out with a V8. You can praise the new Hurricane's 500 stock horsepower. But to me, a V6 just doesn't click well with a Charger or Challenger. Now they could decide to bring back the Viper with the new Hurricane in it since it is more of a sports car than a muscle car, but having a V8 option both in production and after market makes it worth more to the consumer to buy one. Wether it be a car guy buying a used one on the lot, or one buying it stock with a V8. Dodge has been known for being an icon of American muscle despite the competition being better than them, and to take that image away is like removing goofy antics in Looney Tunes.
On the topic of the modern Hemi's, they have been costly to produce as they have been slammed with emissions fees for a good while. If this wasn't an issue then they could redesign the Hemi's to produce more base power, or at the minimum, have a better traction control system or AWD system for all models and trims so they people can use them in areas where snow is a problem (shout out to my Canadian Mopar lovers out there!).
However they more than likely won't be able to as it would cost them too much to produce and thus make their stock pricing go up than it already is (stock 2023 Charger RTs are like almost 51k), so a brand new V8 that solves the emissions fees problem while maintaining the V8 muscle image.
In conclusion if the V8 Magnum name makes a return, we will get a V8 option, but at the cost of the iconic Hemi engine. It's a win but at what cost situation.
It is not a V6, it is an I6 TT
@HighTechBull
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LETS GO!!!!! If they bring back a V8 in the new charger I will take everything bad I said about the new charger back. If Dodge is see this exact comment BRING BACK THE V8 & DO NOT FUCK IT UP!
This why my son truly voted for President Donald Trump for his third time to help bring back the v8 engine back to Dodge. Thank you President Donald Trump DRILL BABY DRILL.
Yes, of course, Trump is now responsible for Dodge building a new 8 cylinder… but only you believe that, soon Trump will also be the new god… men wake up, such nonsense…🥴🥴
As far as I know of the V6 sells more so of course make a few EV’s and V8 and see what sells the most personally I would still give the VA option and just make it limited to make sure that you sell all of them
Add 2 cylinders to the pentastar
Septastar
V8 hybrid would be cool!
I LOVE the look of the new charger especially the 2 door variant. I will never get one unless it has a V8
Edit: or until they become cheap enough to swap a v8 into it lol
It's a 292 cubic inch DOC 90 degree v8 dual turbo there is 2 hp tunes up to 550 hp @ 5800 rpm 480 lbs torque at 2800 rpm. Fuel economy est. 18 city 23 hwy. Block all aluminum with cast iron liners cast in uses some tech off 3.6 v6
Aluminum block 392 with forged internals from the factory that can handle BOOST!!!
I hope for a new V8 from dodge!
Giving me hope 🥹
they couldnt stop me from offering all the different V8 potential options
Should have made 6 pack with hybrid to get even more low end torque and gas saving at same time.
I have said all along that most people don't want EVs. Dodge needs to be remerged with Ram and become a full line automaker again. These new V8s also need to be used by Ram. Jeep could also use the V8s but I would understand if they decided to stick with the turbo inline sixes.
The new charger looks sweet but I don’t want a car every other person will have, including 12.
If it's not broken, why fix it. Keep the 5.7 as middle of the road power plant, the 392 as the big bore get it done and the new 4 6 magnum as the entry level and do away with that hurricane pos, untried and untested
EV’s still aren’t designed for a lot of states in the U.S. yet, mainly cold n snow states.
Man, all it took was Trump coming back and now we get to have nice things again.
6.4 DOHC, variable valve timing Coyote slayer!
Never. 5.0 is the king of v8s
@hds8182 that's why there are so many of them running in the 3s at 1000 ft! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 2nd Gen RULES!
Time of a new DOHC all aluminum HEMI
MUCH better looking than the previous model. Those were so ugly.
I fucking knew it. There's no way they could let the V8 die. Those inline 6 and EV motors, won't last long, they'll sit on a lot and be sold for pennies compared to the money grab of v8's! To let the competition, (Ford) be the only brand with an actual muscle car out there would be foolish, and could cause Stellantis to dig their own grave. The muscle cars may have changed over the years, but the V8 can't ever die. Now the real question is what is Chevrolet going to bring back for the Camaro?
Trump is the reason....Idiot Tavares wanted EVs in the worst way...cost him his CEO title. The relaxed emissions is the only reason
Screw the overhead cam engine stick with the magnum engines
Are they bringing back the challenger?😢😢
They should. The Mustang isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Screw the electric version. That's a major loser.
V8 is really the ONLY way to go.
The inline 6 is ok for a budget version, but the electric?!?!............I will NEVER drive an EV!
One more thing, Hurricane? Try Hurry-cane
Performance is one thing, but the way a car is built is another.
They saw Ford lay their nuts on the counter for the second time in 20 years and had to put something out, the same reaso nthe camaro came back in 2010
I dont want to drive a blender ill take the hemi
Why do you like the Hurricane?
Why not?
@ I haven’t heard anything good about the motor. Lot’s of problems, less gas mileage than the Hemi and more.
@@berniemelanson102 The hurricane has more MPG than the Hemi, not by much but still. If they can fix the engine problems, it's a more powerful engine than the HEMI. The HEMI is tried and true but old and tbh Dodge/Stellantis would do well to improvise and design a new V8 engine. The currenty COYOTE and LT2 engines from the competitors demolishes the HEMIs nowadays...
@@panamaklz😅 no they dont you got your fact wrong here. The hemi makes more power than the others always has. More tq to. And when you modify them thats also true. Plus the trans can hold more than fords and chevys. Your mistaking weight for power here were not talking about weight were talking about the engine and thus far the hellcat motor fromb15 eats the cris hanson predator stock and modified. Also the competitors use aluminum blocks that dont hold the power without sleeves. And lastly they dont get destroyed lol what your seeing is scats and rts getting beat up on the coyote is the only na car thats is fully forged. Hellcats you see getting beat because people think a couple bolt ons are enough against more modified and lighter cars then f around and get beat and most of the time its roll racing on the street not the drag strip. Where is fords 1500hp drop in motor or chevy? Wheres their 1000hp drop in chevy sells a big ass 632 na thats about it. Do a little reasearch. And the hurricane does have problems and i believe what their talking about with mpg is that when you devide you want to lead foot it then it will eat more fuel than a na hemi will probably more than the 392 if i had to guess its a turbo car. Also its aluminum blocked. People buy dodge because they are the only ones with a muscle car if we wanted a euro inline we would just get a bmw because they are the leaders at those. 2 valves are still the most used drag racing motor today not 4 valves because of the tq value and the fact you can gain vubic inches when bored and stroked. People buy dodge because they like to drag race. And if the 2 calve hemi was so old then why are they still the most powerful v8 in drag racing history still used today in top fuel. Guess what those dont have lol inlines or 4 valves or direct injecting or turbos.
Also the camaro was dicontinues because they woyldnt play the hp war. Ford waited until dodge went ev and then came out with the new gen 4 coyote to beat the scats power by adding a hotter tune and dual intakes so they can add carbon traps for emission thats about it then turned around and had motor craft from canada do the gtd, steve saleen do a few, and john whipple got the blower contract ford effectively didnt really do anything other than the 2020 gt500 that took them from 15-20 to make to vompete with the hellcat while didge spits out a 840hp demon in 18 and then a c170 before they exited the game having 1025 hp or 900whp. Checy made the eray a hybrid and the z06 670 hp supercar thats mid engine na and waiting on the new zr1 thats going to be 300 plus k. So yeah dodge still ran the game for motors and still are. If they weighed the same it it wouldnt even be fair at any race. Like it hate it these are facts. Ford cant even build their own ford gt or their mustang gtd or their whipple 850 hp mustang lol. Go ahead and slap a whipple 3.0 on a hellcat and see what happens you will blpw the trans before you get all the power out of the motor 😅. And yes im aware they say pump gas 93 which is a crock it makes mid 700s to the wheels with octane booster. A regular hellcat can do that without a whipple fyi and were not even talking a redeye here were talking the old 2.4l blower 😂. Damb people really dont know crap about these cars do they. The most sought after and the most hated yet nobody know anything about them. let me know when a stock oem block from chevy or ford crest 2500hp ill wait.
From a mechanical standpoint the pushrod v8 Hemi makes the most sense to me and many shade tree mechanics too. Sure bring the magnum series v8's back see what it will do. Just don't expect and true muscle car lover to ever fall in love with a hurricane.
I was at a car showing and they said Not Happening..... a Twin Turbo V 6 in going in that vehicle...I said it first. I know people are saying v8 but its not its a V6 period.
Till it come out. Dodge is DEAD.
Why by a car to rip the guts and replace the engine smh they will sell the American public anything
What about the Camaro?
GM does not offer any car - coupe or sedan - with a V8 except for the Corvette. The Corvette has gone from affordable sports car to ridiculously priced super car. Take a look at the starting prices of the Corvette. They make the overpriced Stellantis cars look like a bargain. Chevrolet discontinued the Camaro, and have been making overtures of it returning as a 4 door EV CUV? What like that stupid Ford Mach-E? No thanks.
You all don't even by the v8s sitting at the lots now so why you celebrating for 😅😅
The last 4.7 OHC Magnum was a ginormous turd. If they have any hopes of using it in a truck they should stick with pushrod. While Ford still uses the Coyote in F150 the fact that they finally gave up on OHC engines in the heavier frames tells you all you need to know. Trucks need power in low and mid range RPMs when doing truck things and that means pushrod.
Just imagine a dual overhead cam hemi🤯🤯🤯
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Back in the 60s they had an experimental 426 Hemi SOHC, it was never released, a Modular Hemi wouldn't hurt at all.
so your excited that they might take the awd EV and come out with a rwd Hemi... thats slower? why would anyone with at least half a brain want that? lol
Meanwhile, engineers on the charger are saying it really can't be done.
The V8s were NOT profitable in the cars . That was the problem over the last few years. Dodge simply couldn't keep passing on the cost of failure to meet mandated "fleet wide MPG" to customers. They simply weren't selling and couldn't sell enough Hornets or any other small cars to offset all those RAM trcuks and Muscle Cars. A new smaller more fuel efficient V8 would be very welcomed though. Chrysler is making a big thing of it's new inline super small displacement 6 cylinder. 540HP out of a peanut sized displacement is as they describe it "dense power" twin turbos get the job of so much power out of such a small displacement possible. Makes you wonder what similar tech might get out of a small V8......wonder no more.....look a Chevy's new killer Corvette. 1065HP out of a relatively small displacement V8. This is win/win stuff. The Hemi engines as we have known them over the past 15 years ran clean enough but came up short of MPG requirements to avoid steep fines for not meeting over all "fleet gas milage". This meant dodge was losing big on most of the cars they were selling and it explains why those prices for Challengers and Chargers kept going up so much faster than simple inflation trends alone could explain. The big Hemi designs had to go. Yet the public wants a muscle car to have a V8. It's a big piece of the puzzle when talking about a "muscle car" you really can't separate the two and expect sales. The idea of a "densely" powered small V8 though.......best of both worlds. Small displacement suggest far better over all MPG when driven sanely. Turbo Charging as done on the inline 6 Chrysler already has in production or like Chevy does on their own hottest Corvette suggests crazy big power numbers don't have to be in conflict with MPG goals. All Chrysler really needs is the desire to stay in the business of producing Muscle cars.
You're smoking crack. Large v8s is what kept them floating.
Something else to thank Donald Trump for
No es lo mismo
Motores , piezas y refacciones MOPAR a las de Stellantis un dolor de cabeza y de muy baja calidad y duración .
Life with a DOHC engine is great. I'll never do pushrod again unless it's a classic car.
Yet they are only a proven winner with some motors in NH RA pushing over 8000 horsepower
Those people are boring people
It will still be a Stelantis product, over-priced and poorly built.
poor dealer network service etc think some paid $200,000 or more for the d 170
stelantis ceo quit
Cry
"EVs have their place" ....................... yeah, in the junk yard press. 👻
An ugly EV....they ditched the old one for this mess? This could maybe be a cop car, but they need the Cuda to save the company.
Too little too late. It will be priced out of everyones reach, just like the current offerings. No budget options at all to speak of. Any V8 they put in there will be a tier above the hurricane and way overpriced.
This model with v8 it's still trash
Too little too late. My own mother bought a 2020 Wrangler. I said you bought a Stellantis?
She said what is that? If I could slap her awake thru the phone....She be nursing a black eye
For as long as Stellantis is the "management" owner of the brand, I'll stay away - their greedy SOBs who who threw out quality and reliability
To late customers are 🏃 runing away from this dealer's due to abuse of 👎 bad practice no thanks.
Who cares? Outrageous pricing quality mediocre
Interesting, how it's all about a V8. Meanwhile, the only "affordable" American V8 sports/muscle car is way down in sales, and its EV imposter is way up....
I would never buy a dodge period 😂😂
Thank you more quality vehicles for the rest of us
@ quality and dodge has never been in the same sentence like ever🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 That's why many of them command 6 figures huh. Get REAL !
@ price has nothing to do with quality only an idiot would say that the fact they are goin under for the billionth time proves my point dodge Chrysler whatever make garbage vehicles the plummeting sales shows.
@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 They aren't going anywhere. They are one of the largest companies in the world quit reading the funny papers