Just got a 2025 Ram Rebel GT . Actually has an ok exhaust note at cold start / hard acceleration My last truck was 6.4 Power Wagon , and had 4 different 5.7 ‘s before that . Definitely miss that V8 sound , but with that Harmon Karden stereo, I’ll be ok 😂👍
@@Gokuz257well obviously an I6 isn’t going to sound as good as V8. Only reasons people like the idea of the 2025’s are due to the better fuel economy, more hp, and better safety options
My 2004 Ram Hemi has been a dream truck. Nearly 190,000 miles with no drama. It was pulling horse trailers for years. No reason to get into an online six anytime soon. I expect it to go to 230,000 or so (and I'll probably have the engine rebuilt at that point). Naw. I'm good.
and if you ever fovrebuild the engine with the money you save you could have the internals of the engine upgraded since it wouldn't be much of a cost difference because they already have to replace the internal parts so you'd only be paying for upgraded parts which is not that much more in cost making the motor more reliable than a stock motor and you could add a magnuson or whipple supercharger kit to it and it'd still be just as reliable if not more if you don't go crazy and crank it up way too much and the kits they have now days come with liteally everything needed to install the supercharger so you literally can't screw it up because they come with literally everything needed to install the supercharger to your truck so there is not one part you'll have to get to install it
I appreciate you guys getting to the point about what is different. I would have to agree with V8 over the standard output inline 6, but the RHO is pretty badass
I drive an '06 Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie club cab 4x4 w/5.7 Hemi. It has 150k miles. I've had it since 69k miles, so I've doubled them. I perform all the oil changes myself and use 100% synthetic oil. No tick. In fact, the only driveline issues I've had with this 19 yr old truck was an oil pressure sensor and the rear diff that needed some new bearings and a pinion seal. The most important metric is this: I paid $12k cash for that truck many years ago. None of the new trucks can provide the value (utility for $) that I have now. Until it dies, I'm keeping it. Even then, it is probably economically best to replace an engine or tranny or transfer case given the cost of a repair vs. a newer truck.
I don't even know why you compare everybody knows it's faster but it's like an EV nobody wants it. My last two trucks that I have owned have been turbo I won't buy another one until I have no choice they always have problems whether it's oil leaking out of the turbo or anything else that pops up but there's always problems. Go talk to the ram mechanics and they have had nothing but problems with the six-cylinder in line.
Tesla sold 1.8 million EVs at a profit in 2023. That's far more than twice as many EVs as Ford sold in gas F150s. Hilarious, "but it's like an EV nobody wants it" shite.😂 Keep living in a dream World, as UR good at it.😂
Too bad they didnt have anyone at Stellantis that understood the US market! A Rebel 'GT' with the SST HO, would have been in high demand, if not priced higher than the RHO
You guys are obvious bias, kind of like watching MSNBC. I'll take a cup series car over an F1 car all day long and take a pushrod high displacement V8 over a maxed out small 6 or 4 no matter the 0-60. You can put a turbo or supercharger on a V8 too.
outside of thermostats ( and that problem is pretty much fixed with the rev 3 thermostat) the hurricanes seem durable ...given no major blow up in the wagoneer after 3 yrs
Hemi all day long. The biggest reason the TRX was born, give those Raptor lovers a reason to go RAM. I was one of those. Stallantis biggest mistake was to remove the Hellcat out of the TRX and take away the Hemi V8 in other models. With the CEO fired, Trump back in office and reversing all the Electric conversion BS, I am hoping smarter heads will prevail and we will see the V8 return at some point.
5.9s.... a second slower than SSTHO, but remember the HO trucks not only have more options and weight, they have a heavier axel with more drivetrain loss.
I have a 2019 bighorn and no hemi tick, but I also changed the exhaust and added a wye before the cats so idk if the unrestricted flow doesn’t hurt the manifold or not.
I will stay with the Hemi. I don’t want a plastic cooling system i6. Plastic thermostat plastic impeller water pump. Plastic connections. There won’t be the same longevity as the proven V8. I have 179,000 on my 5.7 no tic no oil consumption. It was in the shop once when it was new. Only oil changes breaks and tires since new.
Did both trucks have 3.92 gears? My biggest problem with the Hurricane is no dipstick, 0W-20 oil(Ford and GM use 5W-30 in their turbo gas engines) and no dual fuel injection like Ford and Toyota have. Personally I have nothing against the whole turbo six thing since my last two out of three trucks have been F150s with the 3.5.
The lack of a dip stick is a deal breaker, I keep my trucks for years and change my own oil, checking fluid level prior to road trips or harsh drives is a must, plus my 2017 is paid for lol
When I drove the 3.0l I thought it sounded fine, good even for a turbo 6 truck. Obviously no v8 but very strong and smooth power. My biggest complaint is the spike in boost on the low end of the RPM. Compared to an ecoboost the power doesn’t feel as smooth. It does idle remarkably smooth, smoother than an ecoboost.
I’m negotiating right now for a Bighorn crew cab 4x4 with the SO motor. Offer is $45,500 plus tax, registration, stupid doc fee, even $5 tire tax. I’ll get a response tomorrow. BUT I have concern about this new-ish SO engine. Dealership says it has been in the Jeep Wagoner since 2023. I need to research that claim. I’m leery because I bought the 2016 Ram with the notorious Ecodiesel 3.0 engine. Driving it is sheer anxiety. Will the ED die today??????? So, will the SO cause the same worry?
Hey fellas. Any idea why RAM didnt consider a redesign and go with OHCs and 24 or 32 valves to continue the 5.7? Look what that did for the 5l coyote ferp[etesake!
If I bought a new truck with a turbo, and planned to only drive it for five years. Then OK. If I planned to drive the wheels off it, or tow/haul heavy loads, I would want a V8.
Those round exhaust tips have long been a departure angle issue. Why doesnt RAM just put tips with flat bottoms to cure the issue??? Or put the tips higher in the bumper space? Seems like those are some no-brainer solutions...
If you well maintain your vehicles they last. Do oil changes before it's recommended. Keep fluids checked and maintained. Dont red line it or really try not to red line it at all, unless you need to pass someone or get unstuck .
And the 6 is a Fiat engine compared to an American V8, I wouldnt trust that engine till its proven and thats going to take years, nothing else matters.
@@jamesallen7205 I don't believe that for a second. The 3rd gen hemi has its roots all the way back to the A and LA engines and was introduced when Daimler was in control, way before Fiat and now Stellantis got involved.
"Hemi Tick"... Ya thats from guys who baby the motor and over use oil, exccesive idling time. Run em hard, Run good proper oil 5w30, change it regularly. I got 390,000km on my factory truck.
First Stellantis Engineering is questionable at best for reliability. Remember their eco diesel? Going turbo smaller motors means more to go wrong and less life on the motor. Make sure to buy those extended warranties when you get the hurricane. I will never buy one used. If many feel that way, depreciation will be huge on trucks with a hurricane.
Tbh ive raced a couple E torque hemis with my normal hemi both 8 speed and same gears and mines been faster than the 3 different ones i raced. Mine and the other 3 r bone stock. I feel like its taking power from the hemi.
a fair fight is not a few achievements but years of same test ,,,,, reality is reliability!!!! come back in 200k with results of changed components and prices!!!!!!!!!! anyone can run fast one time but thats not everytime!
5.7 are garbage I bought a bran new one had to replace the enigne at 138000 km and 4000km later had to replace torque converter this truck only good up to 120000 km that's with a whole bunch of problems
I know which one I am choosing if towing frequently and doing actual grunt work with it. The little engine being pushed to the MAX or the barely breaking a sweat V8. Numbers on paper are not everything and these little turbo engines SUCK fuel economy wise when doing anything other than sitting at stop lights. You can keep your honda civic and toyota corolla engines out of my trucks.
Sure does. And it has less than half the heat exhaustion. So maybe it has less torque, but it can go faster for longer, because it’s way more efficient. Women also prefer that sort of quality. Ahem.
ANY... I mean ANY ram review I see now days ignore COMPLETELY... why??? Because THEY SUCK for reliability... STOP REVIEWING THESE... I only clicked on here to write this stupid comment about a stupid POS truck
Every damn review....But it doesnt sound good!!! Sure it has more power, better fuel efficiency, superior in virtually every way...but but but it doesnt sound good. Whaaaaaa
Run the hemi same day with both trucks. Jesus stop getting bites on your channel. Run one truck different days different temperatures and say one is better. You have no idea how to race or compare vehicles. Just wasted 10 minutes of my life. 🤔
I think you misunderstood something. We ran them both. Back to back. Same trim, same tires. Hell, same color. Showed footage of them both. Covered 0-60 on both. We just didn’t waste your time with us filming inside both trucks. Thanks for watching.
I just bought a 2025 Ram Warlock with the i6 SO. I really love how smooth it runs.
I agree. I have one as well two months old. It’s a fun truck.
Just got a 2025 Ram Rebel GT . Actually has an ok exhaust note at cold start / hard acceleration My last truck was 6.4 Power Wagon , and had 4 different 5.7 ‘s before that . Definitely miss that V8 sound , but with that Harmon Karden stereo, I’ll be ok 😂👍
I have the 2023 ram rebel gt fully loaded .. I bet the exhaust on the rebel x don’t sound good as the gt model
@@Gokuz257well obviously an I6 isn’t going to sound as good as V8. Only reasons people like the idea of the 2025’s are due to the better fuel economy, more hp, and better safety options
My 2004 Ram Hemi has been a dream truck. Nearly 190,000 miles with no drama. It was pulling horse trailers for years. No reason to get into an online six anytime soon. I expect it to go to 230,000 or so (and I'll probably have the engine rebuilt at that point). Naw. I'm good.
🎉🎉
and if you ever fovrebuild the engine with the money you save you could have the internals of the engine upgraded since it wouldn't be much of a cost difference because they already have to replace the internal parts so you'd only be paying for upgraded parts which is not that much more in cost making the motor more reliable than a stock motor and you could add a magnuson or whipple supercharger kit to it and it'd still be just as reliable if not more if you don't go crazy and crank it up way too much and the kits they have now days come with liteally everything needed to install the supercharger so you literally can't screw it up because they come with literally everything needed to install the supercharger to your truck so there is not one part you'll have to get to install it
What a Naw I’m good “ stupid comment.. makes zero sense..
190K on an 04, do you even use that as a truck is intended to be used? like ever? what is that 9500 miles a year..
Don’t lie, your dash is destroyed and you wish you had the 8spd.
259k on my 5.7 no issues no tick . Change your oil. Change my oil every 3000 miles. Cheapest maintenance you can do.
Hemi for the win.
Limited and Longhorn have HO-SST!
I ordered the ram RHO and I’m canceling it and waiting for the power wagon 6.4 you just can’t beat the sound of a V8
The RHO is a whole other level of speed off road
😂
Who's actually doing high speed off roading?
The Power Wagon is an absolute beast. They're thirsty though.
6.4 hemi better than Hurricane.
@@Jay-ns5ubPower Thristy
I appreciate you guys getting to the point about what is different. I would have to agree with V8 over the standard output inline 6, but the RHO is pretty badass
Regardless of the power I'm keeping the 5.7 will outlive the hurricane crap.
Guve me the hemi regardless of performance.
Do a 25 rebel hurricane vs 24 f150 tremor 3.5 ecoboost!!!
I drive an '06 Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie club cab 4x4 w/5.7 Hemi. It has 150k miles. I've had it since 69k miles, so I've doubled them. I perform all the oil changes myself and use 100% synthetic oil. No tick. In fact, the only driveline issues I've had with this 19 yr old truck was an oil pressure sensor and the rear diff that needed some new bearings and a pinion seal.
The most important metric is this: I paid $12k cash for that truck many years ago. None of the new trucks can provide the value (utility for $) that I have now. Until it dies, I'm keeping it. Even then, it is probably economically best to replace an engine or tranny or transfer case given the cost of a repair vs. a newer truck.
I don't even know why you compare everybody knows it's faster but it's like an EV nobody wants it. My last two trucks that I have owned have been turbo I won't buy another one until I have no choice they always have problems whether it's oil leaking out of the turbo or anything else that pops up but there's always problems. Go talk to the ram mechanics and they have had nothing but problems with the six-cylinder in line.
Tesla sold 1.8 million EVs at a profit in 2023.
That's far more than twice as many EVs as Ford sold in gas F150s.
Hilarious, "but it's like an EV nobody wants it" shite.😂
Keep living in a dream World, as UR good at it.😂
Too bad they didnt have anyone at Stellantis that understood the US market! A Rebel 'GT' with the SST HO, would have been in high demand, if not priced higher than the RHO
You guys are obvious bias, kind of like watching MSNBC. I'll take a cup series car over an F1 car all day long and take a pushrod high displacement V8 over a maxed out small 6 or 4 no matter the 0-60. You can put a turbo or supercharger on a V8 too.
Cup car > F1 car!🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Turbo engines seem to get oil and coolant leaking around 100k
No one wants that bullshit. Re work the hemi and squeeze some more out of it instead of the turbo six crap
Check back with me 2 years from now !
Why?
outside of thermostats ( and that problem is pretty much fixed with the rev 3 thermostat) the hurricanes seem durable ...given no major blow up in the wagoneer after 3 yrs
That motor has been out.
@@privateer9181They have major issues already, especially since everyone is trying to prove their values against the V8!!
Hemi all day long. The biggest reason the TRX was born, give those Raptor lovers a reason to go RAM. I was one of those. Stallantis biggest mistake was to remove the Hellcat out of the TRX and take away the Hemi V8 in other models. With the CEO fired, Trump back in office and reversing all the Electric conversion BS, I am hoping smarter heads will prevail and we will see the V8 return at some point.
5.9s.... a second slower than SSTHO, but remember the HO trucks not only have more options and weight, they have a heavier axel with more drivetrain loss.
How do they tow tho ? I’ve heard the hurricane does it better
Excellent video, the V8 is missing, but the 6-cylinder is a good engine. Greetings from Córdoba, Argentina
Cool video ! I just fixed my hemi tick I had to laugh out loud @ 2019 5.7 Ram I love the healthy cold start
I have a 2019 bighorn and no hemi tick, but I also changed the exhaust and added a wye before the cats so idk if the unrestricted flow doesn’t hurt the manifold or not.
I will stay with the Hemi. I don’t want a plastic cooling system i6. Plastic thermostat plastic impeller water pump. Plastic connections. There won’t be the same longevity as the proven V8. I have 179,000 on my 5.7 no tic no oil consumption. It was in the shop once when it was new. Only oil changes breaks and tires since new.
It was nice of them to replace the engine during that one shop visit.👍
Did both trucks have 3.92 gears? My biggest problem with the Hurricane is no dipstick, 0W-20 oil(Ford and GM use 5W-30 in their turbo gas engines) and no dual fuel injection like Ford and Toyota have. Personally I have nothing against the whole turbo six thing since my last two out of three trucks have been F150s with the 3.5.
The lack of a dip stick is a deal breaker, I keep my trucks for years and change my own oil, checking fluid level prior to road trips or harsh drives is a must, plus my 2017 is paid for lol
RAM needs to bring back the ecodiesel! We want that MPG/Towing power!
When I drove the 3.0l I thought it sounded fine, good even for a turbo 6 truck. Obviously no v8 but very strong and smooth power. My biggest complaint is the spike in boost on the low end of the RPM. Compared to an ecoboost the power doesn’t feel as smooth. It does idle remarkably smooth, smoother than an ecoboost.
I’m negotiating right now for a Bighorn crew cab 4x4 with the SO motor. Offer is $45,500 plus tax, registration, stupid doc fee, even $5 tire tax. I’ll get a response tomorrow.
BUT I have concern about this new-ish SO engine. Dealership says it has been in the Jeep Wagoner since 2023. I need to research that claim.
I’m leery because I bought the 2016 Ram with the notorious Ecodiesel 3.0 engine. Driving it is sheer anxiety. Will the ED die today???????
So, will the SO cause the same worry?
Hey fellas. Any idea why RAM didnt consider a redesign and go with OHCs and 24 or 32 valves to continue the 5.7? Look what that did for the 5l coyote ferp[etesake!
I have a 2023 bighorn love it everyday , wash it twice a week. It's my baby beast
My hemi tick blew the engine at 97k miles, pushed oil into my cold air intake it had massive amounts of blow-by.
If I bought a new truck with a turbo, and planned to only drive it for five years. Then OK.
If I planned to drive the wheels off it, or tow/haul heavy loads, I would want a V8.
The new v8 is just around the corner. It’ll dominate all production engines out there.
Hemi for me any day!
Those round exhaust tips have long been a departure angle issue. Why doesnt RAM just put tips with flat bottoms to cure the issue??? Or put the tips higher in the bumper space? Seems like those are some no-brainer solutions...
The old ram had the tire pattern on the seats not the floor mats I have a 19 rebel with the tire pattern on the seats
Waiting on my RHO. Currently own a RR and 150 raptor
You all are wrong about the engine availability. The Limited and Longhorn both come with the High Output.
If you well maintain your vehicles they last. Do oil changes before it's recommended. Keep fluids checked and maintained. Dont red line it or really try not to red line it at all, unless you need to pass someone or get unstuck .
2 trucks 2 drivers, didnt line them up, video gets a zero.
What didn’t line up?
@@TexasTruckChannelhe means a drag race
Ah, got it. We don’t have a track or air strip near by for filming. 0-60 data is what we lean on.
I haven't watched the video yet... But by your comment I predict the hurricane won.
I don't need a truck to do those 0-60 times! I think it's time to make trucks more fuel efficient!!!
With a v8
And the 6 is a Fiat engine compared to an American V8, I wouldnt trust that engine till its proven and thats going to take years, nothing else matters.
😂
You do know the same guy who designed the 5.7 hemi also designed the i6 turbo🤨
@@jamesallen7205 I don't believe that for a second. The 3rd gen hemi has its roots all the way back to the A and LA engines and was introduced when Daimler was in control, way before Fiat and now Stellantis got involved.
@@jamesallen7205that’s horrifically false, the i6 turbo is based off the fiat design that was already in place beforehand lol. Bad bad post.
@@eldiablort1461 th-cam.com/video/jSheFdCs-lc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=331-88tOxJldyKA7
The 25 looks a lot cheaper than the 24, the lights are worse and the grill looks the same as a tradesman.
Personal preference. I like the looks and inside of the 25 better.
@calebniederhofer6529 the new 25 looks like a tradesman from 10 feet away if it doesn't have the 2 tone paint, very disappointing.
I don’t know if they are the same but I had a Promaster van and the headlights were the cheapest thing ever it was like Temu supplied it
"Hemi Tick"... Ya thats from guys who baby the motor and over use oil, exccesive idling time. Run em hard, Run good proper oil 5w30, change it regularly. I got 390,000km on my factory truck.
Good comparison, but Stellantis f'd this up by not delivering better mpg in the SST. I mean really!
Older rebel looks better.
First Stellantis Engineering is questionable at best for reliability. Remember their eco diesel? Going turbo smaller motors means more to go wrong and less life on the motor. Make sure to buy those extended warranties when you get the hurricane. I will never buy one used. If many feel that way, depreciation will be huge on trucks with a hurricane.
The ecodiesel was an Italian engine
Put the Cummins 6.7 octane engine in and stop screwing around
Want that in the Power Wagon!
16:29 is where the video starts.
Tbh ive raced a couple E torque hemis with my normal hemi both 8 speed and same gears and mines been faster than the 3 different ones i raced. Mine and the other 3 r bone stock. I feel like its taking power from the hemi.
a fair fight is not a few achievements but years of same test ,,,,, reality is reliability!!!! come back in 200k with results of changed components and prices!!!!!!!!!! anyone can run fast one time but thats not everytime!
They aren’t in trouble Their employees are They have plenty of overpriced junk no one is buying.. All car manufacturers do
So glad Ram did away with that ugly front grill on the Rebels
5.7 are garbage I bought a bran new one had to replace the enigne at 138000 km and 4000km later had to replace torque converter this truck only good up to 120000 km that's with a whole bunch of problems
Coils ride nice but the trucks have no payload capacity and tow like garbage. A 1500 i can see but not in a HD truck
Ok why dont u eace the TRX with the RHO then if u guys doing flaky races. Real hemi vs the whimpy 6v 😂😂😂😂
Do people really buy trucks for speed? 🤣
hmm, hemi has less torque than the Colorado's 4 banger
I know which one I am choosing if towing frequently and doing actual grunt work with it. The little engine being pushed to the MAX or the barely breaking a sweat V8. Numbers on paper are not everything and these little turbo engines SUCK fuel economy wise when doing anything other than sitting at stop lights. You can keep your honda civic and toyota corolla engines out of my trucks.
@@briancavanaugh7604 I don't disagree with you. 27psi of boost is pretty insane. Thanks EPA
Sure does. And it has less than half the heat exhaustion. So maybe it has less torque, but it can go faster for longer, because it’s way more efficient.
Women also prefer that sort of quality. Ahem.
@@paulbritton1436Yes, that EPA created by Republican President Richard Nixon and his Republican administration.
ANY... I mean ANY ram review I see now days ignore COMPLETELY... why??? Because THEY SUCK for reliability... STOP REVIEWING THESE... I only clicked on here to write this stupid comment about a stupid POS truck
Every damn review....But it doesnt sound good!!! Sure it has more power, better fuel efficiency, superior in virtually every way...but but but it doesnt sound good. Whaaaaaa
Crap
Run the hemi same day with both trucks. Jesus stop getting bites on your channel. Run one truck different days different temperatures and say one is better. You have no idea how to race or compare vehicles. Just wasted 10 minutes of my life. 🤔
I think you misunderstood something. We ran them both. Back to back. Same trim, same tires. Hell, same color. Showed footage of them both. Covered 0-60 on both. We just didn’t waste your time with us filming inside both trucks. Thanks for watching.
Also why not line the trucks up and drag race. Shitty video
Because we don’t have a drag strip near by. Shitty comment? Thanks for watching.
Hemi would get destroyed.
@@Gladiatorguy1998 I get the turbo 6 is faster. I currently run a ecoboost. That being said the hemi I had before I liked much better over all.