NVIDIA is launching 3 new GPUs this month! Here are the details!
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- NVIDIA is launching 3 new video cards in the month of January, and discontinuing 2 others! Let's talk about it.
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With everything Jay has going on he's still here dropping information for his community! Keep on keeping on Jay! Hope today is a good day for you! 🙏🏻
He has bills to pay like everyone else
@@ewenblack4174 He's still a legend though 😀
@@ewenblack4174 he has enough under his thumb...
It's not like his livelihood depends on the youtube videos...
@@ewenblack4174Also,he has people who can entertain youtube fans while he concentrates on getting his health up.NOBODY would leave his channel for that!
@@TheChudoviste It does though? It's his primary source of income.
I know things are tough for you and your team to create content, edit and release content consistently right now, but know Jay and friends; your content is actually very informative. Thank you for the video, I was literally about to shop for a 4000 series NVIDIA card in the near future. Now I may hold off instead and save some money.
Hopefully, they actually launch closer to those prices. Up in Canada we are currently getting hosed. Both the 4080 and 4090 have had their prices spiked. $150 added to the 4080 and $600-700 for the 4090. The 4090 was around $2250 and is now closer to $3000. Which is insane.
I think it will be the same case unfortunately. I live in Texas and eventhough we usually always get decent stock here they are all out despite people knowing these new cards are coming out.
We can thank Trudeau for the inflation and devalued CDN dollar. $1.33 CDN = $1 USD and it’s only going to get worse as we’re going to get hosed by the green energy scam and our electricity rates look to sky rocket.
I was going to get the 70 Ti Super but it certainly won’t come in at MSRP so I’m expecting it to go for $1100CDN at a minimum.
Is that before or after currency conversion? I doubt they're going to sell it at a loss to sell at price parity between US and CA.
@shayanyadegari1234 there is physical stock available. Just that the prices are just so ridiculously high and seem to be climbing.
Do not buy 4080 or 4090 both are terrible value. You just waste your money for that.
didnt realise you'd still upload this much with everything going on man, props to you and wishing you a speedy recovery man!
Thanks for all the hard work for this channel, I truly enjoy your content. Praying for you health.
Jayz iFixit ad is the only ad on TH-cam I don't skip
I'm having serious doubts about that 4080 Super price point. The 4090 ballooned in price despite its MSRP, so with that card so far ahead people might be willing to pay more for the 4080 Super and AIBs, retailers and not to mention scalpers, are usually quick to take advantage of that. I don't think those cards are going to be available for $999 for very long.
No. I think 4070Ti Super is much more valuable and sold out faster than 4080 Super
They're not going to be available for that price till the 50-series is out. I bought my Galax 4080 six months ago for $1149 and it was far and away the cheapest premium-coolered card available.
I dont think so because the 7900xtx isnt scalped
i would be surprised to actually see a 999$ 4080Super AIB and not founders edition. im expecting most 4080S will be in the 1200-1350$ range
Jay would say buy it
Something I didn't consider until now is that the 4080 Super being $999 while discontinuing the 4080 actually makes the theoretical $1,600 msrp of the 4090 seem like more of a premium price to pay. I had always felt like there was no reason to get a 4080 when the 4090 was only $400 more and had 50% more VRAM and was a lot more powerful too. I actually think $999 for the 4080 Super finally makes the 4080 (now 4080 Super) a compelling option over the 4090 even if we were still able to get a 4090 for its msrp.
I thought the opposite - the 4080 Super is going to be inflated by retailers, so the 4090 looks better. I just bought one for £1800.
@@Jedibenuk I was looking for a 4080 but seeing as those are always inflated and 4080 super will be too, I am actually just considering dropping few hundred more quid and getting 4090 too
The Regular 4080 is Running 1600$ on All Sites! I Promise You Wont Find One Less Than 1500$.. the '4080 Super' Will Be Close to 2000$ Mark My Words... and the 4090 is currently running 2500$ on ALl SItes! im so beyond sick of this. but these little trash 4060's that are the exact same thing as a 3060 are dirt cheap for GPU's tho, GARBAGE!!!!
connectors r still burning up. funny no channels r talking about it.
MSRP over USD 1000 for RTX 4090 itself is insane, and not market viable for the long run for a tech product.
Jensen must start trying to 'soft land' the pricing before imbalance kicks Nvidia's butts. Hahahahahaha... ...
Buyers like me... ... we simply let Nvidia waste a couple of production rounds to get or choose to get one of the products. So even if we have the money to try one more, we can't.
It is just too insanely price for buyers to shorten upgrade periods, hence lower cashflows from PC buyers. Also, used to you can buy GPUs for your kids and such as gifts, but now... ... many such buying activities hence cashflows are wiped out because of such folly. Hence products cancelled, products stuck, marketing forecast messed up and a whole lot of problems and costs piling up, and retail side also have to look at Nvidia... ... Can they order with peace in mind???
That's while Nvidia is losing touch with general market. And competitors rise... ...
Sounds simple to just raise prices, but that is making consumer behavior more 'sneaky'. So now if you try as new product, you can't be sure if the consumers like it and you risk product stuck at production line... ... cos everyone is eyeing on only ONE particular future product... ... Means Nvidia is stuck. And one mistake will mean huge losses.
To consumers, if even RTX 50s can't meet their requirements, and Nvidia is stuck to losses, at most they switch to AMD... ... or now Intel and even China brands. Because they can afford them. But for Nvidia, CEO Jensen will bear the heat. So higher or insane pricing seems a common sense of making more, but does it really mean so?
In real, used to you can try and upgrade as Nvidia pushes out new tech, you can buy 3 GPUs along the way. But now, you can only buy 1 after 5 GPUs happen... ... and you can't buy GPUs as convenient gifts for your children, you won't buy another for spare, and you consumer habit towards GPU changes as you re-budget and not into 'as updated or trendy'.
And cashflow becomes a gamble.
This RTX 4090 is at a price you can buy a least 3 top tier GPUs decades ago... ... Instead of buying 3, you now have to wait for 5 GPUs before you can get RTX4090; which is, if RTX1090 is priced like this, you have to wait till RTX 4090, save up to get RTX 1090, then save up again, wait and wait through the GPUs to get 9090. For Nvidia... ... that means risks... ... because along the wait or way, suddenly you may switch to AMD, and that affects corporate projection.
Worse, there should be more of poor buyers than rich buyers.
Worse still, for RTX 4090 or top tier GPUs, usually to mid range to even high end buyers, they need the software and relevant hardware to match. So now... ... they will wait, but definitely not for RTX 4090. Nvidia has in this, distorted consumer behavior or the market against its best interests, and creating for itself more problems than needed. See?
This is good news, because this will drive the prices in the second hand market down. People are still selling used cards at ridiculous prices.
It wont change shit and you know it.
@@RngmonsterX It will when they realize nobodies buying.
@@RngmonsterX I laughed out loud because you are right
@@pandaphil keep telling yourself nobody is buying- they're perpetually sold out
Its because people keep showing and Jay is one of them that used cards lose no performance.
Sure they are old but their only important metric is performance and that doesnt degreade with 2-4 years of usage even as a mining card.
Jay, if you are still doing your tests or are planning your tests soon, please try to test against the 1080ti. I'm sure im not the only one who is still running a 1080ti and I'm finally looking to upgrade and would love to see how it compares. Thanks and hope you are feeling better!
Just get a 3080ti
For a sense of how it scales, the 4060 is a sidegrade (roughly equal power, but access to DLSS and RTX) and everything else is an upgrade. So, just look for the 4060 or 3070 on the chart, and that's roughly where you're sitting. It'll vary significantly by title, but as a rule of thumb, every generational step moves you down a tier because Nvidia intentionally lines them up that way (i.e., very approximately and depending on engine, etc., 4060 = 3070 = 2080 = 1080 Ti)
Any GPU over $500 is a no go for me, it's just insane how the prices gone. I'll keep my RTX3060 about $300, it serves me well.
If you sell your old GPU then that offsets the price a bit. I just bought a 4070 Ti 3 days ago (I know stupid considering the ti super coming out, but I forgot about the announcement) I bought it for $875. I had a $200 Amazon refund sitting on my account and I sold my 3080 two hours after listing it for $400. So I'm actually only paying $275 for this 4070 ti. I did the same thing when I purchased the 3080 last year used on ebay. I paid $500 and sold my 2070 Super for $250, so i only actually paid $250 for the 3080.
Why? $500 is perfectly fine. Inflation exists. The 1080 released with an msrp of $599. That'd be nearly $800 today.
@@NonLegitNation2 lmao bro, you're still paying 875. that was the longest version of "girl math" ive ever seen LMAO. I like the justification though I feel that.
@@NonLegitNation2 I got a 4080 for $840 2nd hand 3 months old and sold my 1080TI for $210. I am super happy as I can play 4k @120FPS :)
Hopefully I am set for at least the next 3-4 generations.
@@dashm33 lol i'm not though. I'm paying $275, that's the only reason i bought it because I knew after selling my 3080 and the amazon refund I wouldn't be paying the full $875 out of pocket. I knew I'd get at the least $400 for the 3080 because it was/is literally the lowest asking price for a working 3080.
Hopefully, the 50 series cards will support H.266 (VVC) with EVC encoding. Because H.266 needs all the help it can get concerning the encode speed.
I haven't played with 266 yet, how bad is it? It's still frustrating how bad widespread support for HEVC is considering how long it has been out. Microsoft still hasn't added native support back into Windows despite offering the codec from their store for free now (iirc) and sharing HEVC on mobile is still a nightmare.
jeez, twitch doesnt even support AV1 yet and you guys are already talking about h266
YES, please. Instead of everyone blathering about AV1 codec, which hits all the same limits as h.265, just with better bandwidth efficiency. People unfamiliar with VR footage think you'd never need more than 2:1 4096p x 60fps. But we do need 8k 120fps and 16k. The licensing red tape that held HEVC back for so long has been smoothed out. There's no reason NOT to be supporting VVC encoding/decoding anymore.
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing we're a loooooooooonnnnnggg way from 2:1 4000p 120hz thats for sure. I remember a decade ago when people said 1080p would be dead in just a couple of years, look at it now. AAA games cant barely hit stable 60 at 1080p with ray tracing.
@@bladeoflucatiel I'm talking just VR video decoding, not rendering graphics. Media. You need both absurd camera sensors, better lens solutions, better professional video cards that can encode that kind of footage into h.266 (Versatile Video Codec, successor to HEVC h.265), and of course the consumer ability to decode & watch those h.266 video streams. Edit: I'm getting well north of steady 144 frames on my 120hz 4k display on a 3080 ti using most games like MW3 and Cyberpunk these days, no DLSS. But not doing Ray Tracing either. That's cherry picking.
Thanks for the detailed review Jay
Nvidia has essentially tripled the price of graphics cards over the past several years.
Now they're giving us scraps and we're lapping them up.
The 1080 TI launched on March 10th 2017 for $699.
That was the 4090 of that time and that freaking card was truly
amazing. I never bought it because I thought it was overpriced.
Let's stop being amazed by minor incremental changes and call a spade a spade. Within a year AMD and Intel will have caught up with Nvidia and their AI chip dominance. We have already waited a couple years for a decent reasonably priced graphics card. We need to be patient as a community and stop rewarding these greedy self-serving companies by buying dramatically overpriced products.
I quit pc gaming because of the pricing. I used the money I was planning to build a pc and bought a MacBook Pro 14” loaded.
Never bought an Nvidia card in my life. So pleased to be able to say I've not given them a penny of my money.
thats not how it works.
699$ in 2017 relates to 883$ in 2023 due to inflation. The 1080 Ti is what the RTX 4080 is today. The 4090 is the Titan of today, as they don't otherwise exist anymore as high end enthusiast cards. They started this with the 30 series and the 3090 and 3090 Ti (which got shit on due to its insane price and the insane drop in price confirmed this to many).
So yes, NVIDIA applied a premium because they can, they are the biggest baddy on the GPU market, they do what they want, and they will keep doing this until there is some actual competition WITH feature parity (people justify AMDs lineup bc it is cheaper by 100 bucks, but since the 7900XTX is also too expensive considering its lackluster RT performance and using FSR, which to this day is NOT on the same level as DLSS sadly, but in regards to pure performance they can't compete on the same level since those cards SHOULD be running those features well enough in comparison to NVIDIAs cards, which they sadly aren't).
I don't think anyone here is cheering NVIDIA on to keep doing this, but we all live in the same world and have to deal with this shit, but there is no point trying to point out a baddie when it sadly boils down to capitalism doing its thing, since nobody here is willing to give up their hobby to make a point.
Tripled the price in the last few years?...Are you serious???? Were you not around for the 2000 series???? You just got spoiled that the 3000 series was a bargain. Oh and by the way. $699 in 2017 is equivalent to north of $900 today and the generational leap was not nearly as high
I like having the TV behind Jay with what he's looking at, gives the video a cool feel. You guys rule.
Sob story here…
I JUST bought a 4070ti before realizing the super was coming out this month. Honestly this is getting exhausting. Like you mentioned before , it’s all feels like a cash grab. Now I’m stuck with a slightly sub par card. I’ll only be gaming in 1080p or 1440p (VR in most cases) so I’ll be fine I guess. I came from a 980ti so the difference will still be quite noticeable.
I’m not going to return the 4070ti because #1 I think there’s a restock fee still lose money trying to swap.
#2 I’m tired of chasing performance with hardware. Every year there’s some new shadows, textures, particles or badly optimize game that forces you to upgrade. It really takes the fun out of all of it. I’d rather just turn most of that stuff off and keep my money.
See you in 1080p on high settings until the 6000 series 😅👋🏽✌🏽 Thanks for reading my TED Talk
OMG! You are so fast... NVIDIA's presentation just ended a couple of minutes ago... good job :)
If you look at the date and time on the TV behind Jay the date on the PC is 1/4/24. He filmed this in advance and likely couldn't say anything due to a NDA. (Unless, of course, that PC's date/time was set incorrectly for some reason.)
Jay looks much better here than he did on the racing rig vid yesterday. All the best to Jay and the team, keep on keepin' on Jay!
A step in the right direction. Still happy with my 3080, but hopeful this trend continues with the 5000 series.
@karl5010 Of course it won't, running a massive A.I training computer for D.L.S.S cost money & power. The cards all cost as much as it would've cost to run two cards in S.L.I. Everyone loves D.L.S.S stuff like that doesn't just come out thin air for nothing, it all cost.
Isn't this what they did with the 20 series? Priced it all super high in comparison with the 10 series, then the 30 series came out cheaper and better than the 20 series. Basically those that jumped on the 20 series paid extra to test the new features, and those that waited for 30 series like me ended up with better versions much cheaper.
I'm also curious to see who the 50 series pricing will end up being.
I mean. AMD 80 series is the same price as the 4080S and has gimped features in comparison
It's a shame that they still aren't ditching the faulty power cables.
That 4070 Ti Super is really tempting for me. I've been content to hold on to my 2080 until the 5000 series launches next year but I didn't expect this kind of refresh at this price. Getting basically a lower end 4080 (same dye) for $800 with double the VRAM in my 2080 seems like a great deal.
LOLOL. THE REGULAR 4080 IS 1600$ ON ALL PLATFORMS HOMIE, THE SUPER CARDS ARE GONNA BE AN EXTRA 500$ ON-TOP OF THESE INSANE CURRENT PRICES ALREADY! it aint gonna happen
@@ChoppedAndScrewedMusicwhat are you saying
@Scoutingg
You were saying a 4080 around 800% or whatever. And i explained the regular 4080 is on average 1600$ on all sites and only gonna go UP.
I said u wint find one that is '999$' or even near that. That was my point
@@ChoppedAndScrewedMusic
1. 4080s arent anywhere near $1600
2. the literal retail price is $999, so yes you will get it for $999 if you get it retail when it releases. Lol
@Scoutingg
Your comment literally mad me irritated AF bro. Tou clearly Havent looked around. I promsie you, 4080's on-Average are 1600$ right now for like every model/Type
You are living in a fantasy world of u think youll find a Super at MSRP anytime soon
I’ve been using a 4080 for 14 months now. I paid 1400 Euros in November 22. I’m not pissed at all. Of course, faster, cheaper cards were bound to come out eventually. But I had fun playing all games on max for over a year now. Maybe the price drop brings more gamers the joy of high-end hardware. That’s awesome.
This sounds like cope no offensive my man.
@@4566Iggy none taken. Coping for what? For 14 months of eye candy gaming? Yeah. I regret that. I could’ve used my phone instead. ;)
It’s normal for hardware to lose value the moment you order it. Only exception is the 1080ti. Nvidia needed some time to adequately replace this baby.
Been playing games at 1440p on my 2080 S FE. Been waiting to upgrade and it seems the 4070 TI S is going to be the card I've been waiting for. Will wait for the benchmark results though.
From all accounts, I agree. It seems to be the best value.
I'm glad I grabbed my 4090 when I did 😮
The 4070 ti was already good but the 12 GB RAM and price point were just not that compelling (I still bought one though 😭 I was running a 2060 super). Now with that 16 GB RAM and more power, it's worth it
I am with you man, my 2070 Super has been great, and the 4070 Super seems perfect for 1440 to last me another 4 years! What are the odds I can just get on my PC and get a 4070 Super next week at launch?
Similar to their approach with the 20 series, they initially overpriced the 20 series cards and later introduced the more reasonably priced 20 Super versions, offering better value for performance. I'm curious to see if the 50 series will match the 30 series in terms of performance relative to price.
True, but they did that only after AMD was a better choice, just like right now.
Thanks for keeping up the info with everything you have going on. Keeping my fingers crossed for a positive outcome for you.
I was hoping for a 4080 ti that wouod be close to the 4090 to close the market more and the price could go down
Man, imagine Civ V with frame gen! Those extra FPS! 😂 Thanks for the preview, Jay and Co.! I'm glad I waited on getting a 4070 until now. Maybe I'll shell out for a 4080 Super later this year.
Gandhi dropping mushroom clouds in buttery-smooth 999 FPS.
WILL BE BUYING THE 4070S !!!
its a no brainer after buying a 3060 Ti for $630 USD during COVID, glad I waited and didn't go in on a 7800xt, frame gen will do wonders for my singleplayer games
I'll love to see the difference between the "old" 4080 and the new 4070 Ti Super
you mean the badge change?
like 3% different but $400 cheaper 🤣🤣🤣
Long time nVidia customer.. I just feel jaded and cynical, still haven't upgraded from 1660super yet and will probably switch teams next time I do
@@Azerkeux about to say the same thing, tho i have a 3080 10gb but nvidia got too "shady or greedy" imo & amd made some good improvements last couple generations
I'm hoping you can actually get them for anywhere near MSRP
I think most people don't realize that Nvidia has created almost the exact same situation when they were about to release the 3080. The 2080 Ti made a lot of gamers have a negative attitude towards Nvidia and then all of a sudden they announce the 3080 and the demand just went through the roof with the vastly improved frames per dollar, MSRP-wise at least. The 4080 was this generation's 2080 Ti and the 4080S will be scalped to hell like the 3080. Good luck getting it at MSRP.
I got 3080 Ti. I will be really interested in benchmarks. 100W power consumption drop sounds pretty tempting.
not worth soon you will see people 40 series melted connector. because those super still have 12vhpwr
Just wait for the 5 series, not worth going from a 3080 ti to a 4 series when the 5 is slated for early 2025.
@@Crocodile939 so far there were reported issues with 4090 cards because of 600W power draw. Watch previous JTC videos about this topic.
I really want to get an AMD card but the efficiency of nvidia with European energy prices just makes so much sense.
lets just hope they've supered the psu connectors on these
The 3 new cards are:
RTX 4080 Super
RTX 4070 Super
RTX 4060 Super
3 cards, 3 level performance, 3 price range.
I'm curious to see what the difference is going to be between the 4070ti and the ti super
Me too because my 3070 ti fried itself the other day. Was going to upgrade to 4070 ti but waiting for the super now.
My PC's GPU died, and I bought a 4080 to replace it... about a month ago. Not terribly sad, the 4080's a great card ((I did get money back as it went on sale the next week, and Best Buy has a great lowest price guarantee))
I tried using Frame Gen now that I have access to it. In Starfield, it felt good. Just boosted smoothness, and was really nice to run. in Alan Wake 2, while the smoothness was there, the lag was terrible. Felt like my game was running in slime. Smooth, but not responsive.
And what I think is the cause is the 60FPS mark. If the frame gen cannot exceed 100FPS, then there's no point in enabling it. If your game runs below 60FPS without it, tweak the setting so it at least runs around 75FPS before enabling it, as the input latency it introduces will be felt.
For the most part, I leave it off. It's neat to have, but not necessary.
I think it's a better move for people still running an RTX20 series. I have a 3080ti and it's doing everything I need it to. Unless the prices come down, I'll probably replace it later with a 50 series.
My 2080Super laptop is doing just fine.
Until will become obsolete is ok. I have no intention to invest 2000€ in a PC yet.
At least a little win finally with slightly more performance / slightly less money. For someone like me that's been holding out for a GPU to replace my 1070, this is good news.
I'm interested to see if the price the 7900XTX drops. I'm planning on building a new rig around the beginning of March and pricing will play a big factor on whether I get a 7900XTX or a 4080 Super.
Go for the 4080. I had tried AMD this time around and had months of headaches where gaming became unbearable because of their drivers.
Which card because i was planning on getting the 7800xt soon @@Raxxes
EXACTLY what 90% of all AMD gpu owners come to find out. they have garbage drivers@@Raxxes
If the 4080 Super is $999 for the FE card, and it's the successor to the 3080 Ti at $1199, that honestly doesn't sound TOO bad to me.
card needs to be like $750 FE and $900 tops for an aftermarket one with a beefed up cooler for it to really be worth the asking price
@@Crunkmaster Ideally yes, but I'm just saying that at least the price went down compared to the 30 series equivalent, the 3080 Ti.
My 2070 Super has been feeling the strain lately, even with quite a heavy OC. Maybe now is a good time to upgrade. That 4070Ti Super looks quite tempting.
Same, i have been on my 2070 super since end of 2019 , and past month upgraded to a 2nd hand 3080 , and I feel that is a huge upgrade. BTW , the 3080 was mined for a year and it was decently taken care of, and i paid 300$ for it. Nevertheless i would have loved to jump to a 4060 16gb or even a 4070 but they were out of budget for me , in this side of the world, 1500 to 2000 U$D are equals to half a year of paychecks...
It's worth it imo. The 4070 Ti Super is actually a huge win for this gen. The card is now within 10% of a 4080, but for only $799 vs $1200 for a 4080.
If I hadn't already bought a 4080 for $950, I would absolutely go for the 4070 Ti Super, no question about it. The upgrade to 16gb vram and 256mb mem bus width means it is a much more solid card for 1440p and 4k than any other 4070.
Especially with it being only $100 more, the 4070 Ti Super is the only 4070 card to consider imo.
Imagine doing this right after Christmas and you just dropped $800 on a 4070ti and then the super comes out. So glad I went AMD and never looked back.
As Phil mentioned towards the end, yes I am also annoyed that I shelled out £200 more on a 4080 (compared to a 4080 Super) 6 months ago 🥲 Good luck to everyone else still!
I would like to see the comparision between 4070ti super and 4080
Same here - I've had a 4080 for about 6 months and loving it.
I’m wanting to upgrade to a 4070 from a 1660ti I’m pretty hyped about the 4070 super being the same price as the 4070 I’ve been eyeballing. Not so thrilled about the wait though.
It's been interesting watching this gen of cards, especially as someone who isn't interested in either of the frame gen tech. The only thing I'm actually envious of is the lower power consumption of these cards compared to my 6900XTXH
Just click "auto-undervolt". You're welcome.
Not really sure why you're complaining about power consumption when the 6900XT is actually an extremely efficient card, and it will easily offer 3090 performance while using 100W less. Mine would usually only use 220-250W in gaming with the undervolt.
@@rustler08 Hit me up with whichever Linux-compatible application you're using and then let me know if these new cards wouldn't then also be able to do the same and get even lower power consumption.
I'm not complaining about anything. I'm simply mentioning that the only thing I'd like to have is those consumption numbers. If I thought these cards were so great, I'd just buy one instead of 'complaining'.
I'm not upgrading my video card until I am convinced that they have a safe power connector. I suspect that will be the 50xx series.
4070 ti super sounds great, sounds like a perfect upgrade from a 1080 ti
Kinda kicking myself for just having just built a PC with a 4070 Ti, but I have a feeling it will take a while to be able to obtain a 4070 Ti Super at MSRP anyways. Definitely want to make the jump up though for that extra VRAM
Can't wait to see the real world Radeon Comparisons. Given I still run an RX580 anything at this point will be an upgrade
I still run a GTX 1080 and will say that a GTX 970 would be an upgrade for you probably.
@@peptoyo well my CPU is an overclocked FX-8320 so ANY CPU/GPU combo will huge upgrade lol
im still using 980ti and got my eye on amd 7900 xfx
@@peterromano1911 I'm looking more along the lines of a RX-7800 series
I went from a 1050Ti to a 7900 XTX. It is indescribable how much better it is.
@3:12: "And then mine..." The best thing about you is your humility. You are awesome Jay!
Really glad I decided to wait to get a new GPU. I'll probably be grabbing either the 4070 Super or Ti Super, depending on which ones end up getting a smexy white design.
Same but well see the price🤑
Don't give Nvidia money. PERIOD.
@@GrizzAxxemann I'll stop giving them money when AMD starts competing again.
@@chaosultimamagefor real. AMD is slightly better raster to price performance on average because they gimp the RT, AI upscaling hardware features that is QOL.
Now these mid-high end cards are noticeably priced better than AMDs unless gimpy responds.
I sincerely hope one day AMD join the Intel/NVIDIA fray of excellent hardware feature sets.
@@ehenningsen yeah, AMD has been on point w/ their CPUs for years now, I dunno why they can't figure out GPUs. I briefly used a Radeon like 10 years ago because I couldn't find a decently priced nVidia card at the time, but I've been using a 2070 Super for years now and I probably don't even really NEED to upgrade it, honestly, but I want something newer for my new pc.
All i see from this is msrp (not true pricing) vs actual pricing which will be a chunk higher, watch there be some "stock shortages" now and the retail price of the super 80 be over msrp of the normal 4080
So I’ve sat thinking about this. If I could get a 4080 Super FE card for whatever they will be priced at in the UK.
It’s probably going to top out 4K120 in a lot of titles. It’s going to be faster than my 3080Ti, it will have DLSS3 and AV1 encoding. + it looks super sexy imo, far better than my 3080Ti FE.
It’s a bit of a no brainier really. The caveat will be trying to get one. As they will sell out quickly.
Honestly no need to upgrade a 3080ti. Just wait for a 5080 or higher to buy a gpu if your eager to get more perf
That Super price does look really good. However, we are 9 months from the 50 series.
No need to lose out on gaming now though. I've seen people so timid to get off the pot, they just never buy anything they truly want.
had the same thought, but im sticking to my 2 generation plan i started when i bought my 1080, skipped 20xx series, now im on a 3080 right now, and switched to 4k120 gaming a year ago, in some titles without dlss its hard to push the 3080 to drive that panel and im crazy tempted to invest in a 4080 super, especially when i can still get a decent amount of resell value for the 3080. But everything in my body from brain to toes knows that i will regret it later in roughly a year because looking at UE5+ and coming up games, the 4080 right now barely is enough for 4k120 gaming without dlss (and even sometimes with dlss) and im gonna be sad/loosing money because i will be tempted/or switching to the 50xx series again. so the smart thing is taking a hit on fps for a couple of months, skipping the 4080S and then adopting the 50xx (god i hope it will be good performance value, pls dont be like 20xx series madness again) Edit: oh and another thing i forgot to mention: i really really really hope the new gen will switch away from 12vhpr or at least go 2x12vhpr like derbauer suggested to stopp all that melting connector shit that is going on.
@@tomeguild IMHO, if upgrading to 4080S now means skipping the 5080 - then I'd wait.
@@ehenningsenlooks really good 😂 you are so dense that £1000 + ( for aib models is really good , also irs only like 3 % performance
I got a 3080ti knowing that I would be waiting until 5000 or 6000 series. Mostly because I have other priorities in my life and I would have to upgrade other parts like my MB and CPU first anyway.
Choosing between graphics cards was difficult when I upgraded to my 4060 ti 16gb, only because the rez that you play at is kinda a big factor. So I'd be curious to see the performance gain at 1440p on max setting from say a 4060 ti vs 4070 super.
You hit the nail on the head, what monitor you have and it's resolution is the stick you measure what card you need by! if you are not 4K gaming above a 4070 Super is not needed.
@@killer01ws6I think if you want to push high settings in some games at 1440p and skip 2 generation cycles before upgrading again, then the 4070 ti super is a good option too.
Listen to people the 4060Ti can't be compared to a 4070 obviously even without the 4070 super.. its day and night comparison.
4060Ti is just good for 1080p it has more VRAM but that's and VRAM isn't everything..
That iFixit sponsor is the best sponsored segment I’ve seen in my life.
A nice alternative to people who don’t want to break the bank buying the 4090 but still want a similar performance
@neotan if you think this will give you the same performance as a 4090 your the customer they want 😅
@@Simlife101 It ain’t the same. But the 4080 super performs better than the 4080 and is cheaper. It’s the second best 40 series card.
Frame gen is available for 30 series cards. Look up the FSR3 frame gen mod. Works beautifully in many games
And 20 series too. I've used it in Alan Wake 2.
@@KJ-yr4wd yup confirmed it works for me in Alan Wake 2 as well. I also have it working perfectly in Rachet and Clank, Cyberpunk2077, and Robocop. There is literally no good reason to goto a 40 series now from a 30 series lol
Although the mod does have it's issues. One of the issues is ghosting when you move the character around the screen for example. However, playing around with the settings can alleviate the effect of this a bit, but I don't think it completely eliminates it. But yeah, overall, the mod seems to give a smoother experience from a older card.@@SamCableguy
I lurk a lot, post almost never. But I wanted to thank you for all the great content from you and your team Jay!
I'm waiting for the 40 series Super-Duper cards.
Thanks for the info jay. im probably going to keep my 3080 until something comes along in the 5xxx range that i like. the rtx 4xxx stuff is impressive i just can justify buying one as of yet.
Having regrets about the price of an older buy is weird: At that time the decision was made you wanted the card for that price. Things get differently priced all the time.
You can not wait forever until things get cheaper or whatever, that way you never get to buy anything!
Just decide on the current (at time of buying) price and if that is what you are willing to pay then run with it. No Regrets, unless the product is broken or does not deliver what was promised.
I would be interested in reviews of these cards and how/if they improve rendering performance for those of us that don't focus on gaming FPS (preferably on non-Adobe platforms - DaVinci, Vegas, etc)?
As more and more regular people are recording and editing in 4k+ resolutions, I feel like rendering performance is fast becoming the second most important spec on GPU's.
Yeah, these reviews are more focused on the gamer more than the content creator, even using software like DAW performance gets ignored.
No one should have paid 1300 bucks for a 80 series card periodt!!!! AND there is no excuse for them to screw people intentionally disabling 2 SM's just to use them in a card that will also cost less later on... Nvidia is the enemy of it's own customers
Actually kind of excited. I was looking at the 7900 XTX (currently using a 6900 XT that I picked up off of FB Marketplace), but the 4080 Super may be what I go with. I played a bit of Cyberpunk with DLSS 3.5 (frame gen and path tracing), and it looks INCREDIBLE.
Whenever you can get a high end Nvidia card, you should just do it imo. I know that there is a lot of complaints about the price and they're justified, but I really like what Nvidia is doing lately. The push for real-time path tracing, the push for local AI computing (Stable Diffusion + LLMs run incredibly well on RTX cards) and also side software such as RTX Broadcast. It's good stuff.
i would wait for 5000 series if i were you
DLSS can be good on occasion, But it is often quite shit.. and adds horrible unwanted levels of latency. I want native crisp picture when I'm gaming! Overall I'm not fan of it, I'm certainly not a fan of the fact Nvidia push it on us and that developers are starting to be more lazy forcing users to use it to get a better FPS experience even when you have a beefy expensive card. But then the opposing argument is it's great for those that have 'lesser' hardware and can get better performance (I agree that's cool). So I have no problem with it being a thing, Just that everyone in the gaming background linked with Nvidia are leaning on it and forcing down people's throats. It should be a thing we can use not have to use. I don't pay stupid money for a GPU and then a big AAA game, To then have to use an upscaling method to get good FPS!
@@potatorigs2155 Honestly, I've been having some driver issues with AMD (specifically lately with Control on DX12), and I got it for $450. I can probably sell it for $350ish, so I wouldn't really take too much of a loss.
@@mozzjones6943 In the limited time I used DLSS 3.5, I personally didn't notice any input lag (wired gaming keyboard and mouse). Prior to the 6900 XT, I had a 2080, and always turned on DLSS if it was available. I had a great experience with on 1440p gaming, and honestly regret selling the 2080 for the 6900 XT.
Instead of being insanely overpriced it is just stupidly overpriced. Thanks Nvidia!
Nice to see that Nvidia is finally responding to criticisms. That 4070 Ti is a very compelling upgrade over my 3070 Ti, but not at $1000 CAD. I can buy a 7800 XT from AMD direct for $650 CAD (thanks, exchange rate), so the 4070 Ti would have to be greater than 35% better performance in rasterized performance (don't care about RT, and DLSS/XESS/FSR is a wash) for it be worth buying over it.
I’m leaning towards getting a 7800xt instead of a 3070ti just for price. I have a gtx1650 now so anything is a boost.
If you don't care about dlss/rtx/ai then go amd
@@HDmetajoker definitely get the 7800xt over the 3070 ti
Nvidia is responding to criticisms. They're responding to what's going on with the market/economy.
@@HDmetajoker you can wait and get a 4070 super for better all around performance then the 7800xt along with lower power draw..rasterization better features
Jay's ifixit ad is still funny as shit. It's a classic at this point.
I’ve been on a founders 3070 since release and that 4070s is looking like a good upgrade, I like that the look of the card is the same as well
I went from a 3070 to a 4070 in November, only because I built an entirely new PC. It's a small uplift in rasterization, but DLSS 3, framegen, and 4GB more VRAM make a big difference in the playability of the most recent AAA titles, especially those which are so poorly optimized. If you are like me and wait a year for the games to be patched/optimized before buying, then consider holding off for 50 series. Hope this helps. Cheers!
@@jerome620 or wait for the other team to release their cards so the prices drop or might get a better overall card from those, at least that is the time when u get prob the best deals. also considering 9/10 games got patched pretty fast within 1 week /or were playable on release (if u dont rely on having 200 fps & fine with 60fps@2k-res with a mix high/ultra settings).
Nice, the price are still high but not as ridiculous as they were, curious to see how much the left stocks of 4080's will be selling for (or used market) maybe i'll get one if they get to a 800$ mark (have to see if it still performs better than a 4070ti super, which i think will still be the case), thanks Jay ;)
@@Slappi2 yes, you can't beat the devil 😂
I'm interested in seeing how the 4070 ti super and 4080 super will do, I may still go for AMD, but it makes for a much more interesting choice now.
Hopefully this means a price drop for amd stuff ,because at the same price the 4080s is looking better than the 7900xtx imo.
It would be crazy if they don't adjust, which makes the mid-high end market for these cards much better. @@blacksusanoo23
If you pay the current prices for and AMD card once these launch you need mental help. AMD gpu's won't be able to handle these
I expect AMD to lower their prices obviously... @@anthonylong5870
15:00 thats with every new thing ever
Got a regular 4080, an Asus TUF one & it's amazing!
Platform upgrade is next on the list since I'm still using an i7 8700K. :)
what are you planning on swapping to i had a 4080 FE for like 8 months and im just now swapping to 7800x3d off of 5800x3d
if you did it recently, you should have waited for the 4080 Super or even return your 4080, if possible
@@illogicalmilk8029Probably an i5 14600K or an i7 14700K. Been using Intel for more than a decade & really not feeling like moving to AMD. :)
@@chris_3729Pretty recently, yeah. But honestly, I don't wanna bother & will keep it. It's going to be enough performance for my needs for a long time to come regardless.
@@Yuu_Touko ofc completely understandable there are both ups and down between amd and intel. I honestly thought about going 14th gen cause i heard they were much more stable with ram configurations, but ultimately went amd because i wanted to save some watts and because im only going to be gaming.
I would add DCS to that spec measurement. Sim players buy fast cards and drop a lot of money in general
It’s going to be interesting to see the prices next generation when I upgrade my 4090. I’m hoping it’s not something astronomical.
Considering that the 4090 can be considered to be an absolute, smashing success despite the high price tag...I'm guessing we're going to see anywhere from $1,800-2,000 for the 5090.
The 4090 is only $100 more then the 3090 at launch but you get way more as far as performance, Cuda, RT and tensor cores. Hoping the 5090 stays around that price point but we will have to wait and see. I'm loving my 4090 and I came from a 3070. Talk about a massive improvement for me lol😂
It will pretty much 100% be something astronomical. Its Nvidia were talking about here. Probably $1800-$2k if not more.
4070 Ti is the most requested card at the moment by my customers in their custom build, Its £269.99 here in the UK.
I got a 7900 XT recently for 750 so would be interesting to see what price the 4070 Ti Super actually ends up with because it seems like a fairly competitive card but assuming the MSRP at 800 and with other third party manufacturers adding their own sauce to it I'm guessing it's gonna land more towards 900+ which would put it straight up against the 7900 XTX so we'll see 🤞
You do not want to see what the comparison with the 4070ti Super is going to be for you lol. it will SMOKE the 7900XT , AMD has nothing to compete in any of the higher tiers.....
@@anthonylong5870 thats some harsh and probably wrong words. The 7900xt can easily OC to 4080 levels, beats the 4070ti by more than 15% in raster at stock. All the 4070tiS is gonna do is not look silly at the same price point. But the extra Nvidia sauce definitely makes the 4070tiS a better deal at 800 vs 7900xt at 800. Especially now it isn't handicapped by its VRAM. But it won't smoke it at all. It will be equal at raster and have the Nvidia advantages(RT+DLSS). But let's see how pricing shakes out I think everyone is expecting the XT and XTX to drop to keep the perf/dollar on their side.
@@anthonylong5870 by smoke you mean it will be better by like 5% and 100$ more expensive?
@@emilpapis93 Someone has a very vivid imagination. VERY vivid with those numbers
@@siema14123 More like 11% and about $50 more....And it has a much newer and more stable feature set
the Ifixit ad is still the best thing Jay ever created apart from his daughters lmao
Fall almost from my chair of laughter everytime it pops up xD
Everyone who bought a 4080 before the 4080 super release is now crying for not waiting
Not really, idc 😂
Why lol
not really also you could say the same about everyone else who bought a gpu and then a new gen comes out with better price to performance like when the 30 series came out, as time moves on there will always be a newer and faster gpu to release. I'd say these are nice addition and a small improvement but i would rather see how the 50 series will perform and wether or not they will keep increasing prices and more so what amd can do for the low to mid end.
You can see it in the comments.
@@Real.384 it’s a joke bro but it’s not your fault because nvidia doesn’t know how to price their gpus and take advantage of their customers
NVIDIA did the same thing with the 2000 series where they launched the "super" models and then discontinued the original variants.
Wow... Well I'm SUPER happy I held fire on getting a 40 series card end of last year... Might pull the trigger for one of these
curious where amd ballparks compared to the 4070 super and what prices going to be like for and 7800xt and so on to underbid nvidia here
I've said it before, you guys have the best commercials! Love the monster truck vibe!
I just hope this changes the pricing on 4090's back to somewhat normaler pricing instead of the 2k mark
For how long it took me to wait for a 3080ti, plus how long I had to save for it, it’s running everything I play amazing and I’ll hold onto it until games come along that need more horsepower at 3440X1400 resolution for my ultra wide. I don’t think I’ll ever sell my EVGA 3080ti, because it’s the last Gen of GPU EVGA will ever sell. Will make a nice piece on my shelf.
I'm wondering how the 4070ti Super will compare to the 7900 XT. I have the 7900 XT but I would have likely bought the 4070ti if it had more than 12GB of VRAM.
It will probably barely tie it, or be margin of error faster. But, remember that it's pretty simple to get a $650-700 7900XT, whereas $800 is the MSRP of the FE not including AIB markups. People are sorely mistaken if they think they're going to be shopping and getting a 4070 TiS at $800. It's probably going to be $900+, to the point where you will be able to buy a 7900XTX for the same price
i bought a rtx 4070 back in oct... i have no need to upgrade to the super or super ti variant... but i am happy to see that i didnt over pay for my 4070
ive been holding off. im going to upgrade from a 3060 to the 4070 super!!!
I switched to AMD with a Radeon 7900XTX.... and I'm pretty happy compared to my RTX3080 for 4K gaming. I dont really care about ray tracing so... My last AMD was way back with a 4870 1Gb :-P
They should have just released these from the start. I bought a 4070 ti at launch last year because my old card died and there wasn't much on the market but I never felt like it was a good deal or anything which is sad to say for something that cost me around 1100 Cad. It's the same with these, in another 12 months the 5xxx will release and all these refresh 4 series will be underwhelming. Nividia is a crazy predatory company tbh can't say I am a fan anymore.
Imagine how powerful PCs will be when I finally do upgrade!
Dropping the price on the 4080 Super leaves a pretty nice gap to put a 4080TI in its place.
I can’t see that happening, it’s too close to 5000 series.
@@HlspwnsWorld Ya never know with Nvidia. Although that same price gap could be to slot in the 5000 series down the road to make it look like they're about the consumer. lol
Please stop using 99 prices.
999 is 1000$. etc.
Great video
Technology moving forward. One of the only constants in the universe is change. Costs, and technology is always going to change.
Companies will always try to get as much money as they can. That is why companies have marketing departments.
We got a 4090 fe in our office and now we picked up a 4070 TI super. I think it is the best value 16gb vram for 3d rendering right now! For gaming? Not sure, I'll probably prefer 7900xt instead
I still despise the official charts comparisons. They have a 40 series lineup already, compare to that! not with years old series that don't have soft technologies that you are using to compare -_-
The whole $999 bucks, I wish that was the price here in Canada the 4080 range $1,619.99-$2,284.99
Around 7:16 is there a reason 1440p at 144hz is the marketing for the 4070 TI super? While I play at 1440p I thought the 70 TI could hit 4k? I mean they love to market it saying 4k.
Jay recorded this video on the 1st of April. lol
Don't ever change Jay... You and Steve are all I have left after Linus destroyed everything.