This Is Why Your Metalcore Song Sucks...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2020
- In this video we'll go over a generic metalcore song, and the techniques that were used to write it!
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What string gauges do you use?
You basically nailed every single thing I write. Good job lol
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@@BaenaCarcosa It's funny, I don't know ANYTHING (in the most literal sense, here) about guitar tabs & am self taught (and did it for 15+ yrs on the road later, too, so...yayyy...success...🙄) but lemme ask so I'm not hanging myself over nothing k? So I've luckily been kinda obsessed w/these influences usually (or seemingly) almost quasi-the-polar opposites of what you guys covered in a lot of your stereotype videos (christ on a cracker, at least i hope so now tho, anyway!) but...thru dumb luck or luckily being dumb AF, by being so very old, out of touch, & just as unskilled, I just had records of groups (metal-wise) on repeat like The Haunted, ETID, Zao, Darkest Hour, and early Cave In's CDs. Now, while the rest of the civilized world had social media & a life, I just wanted to ask, are there any ways you can think of (as I'm already a subscriber of yours) that I can mitigate all the seepage of deathcore (despite that i do enjoy newfound loves like END, Erra, etc) & "djent" etc?? Am I wrong to think I can mix what I love about more snarling crust-core-esque acts like Trap Them, Converge, or Johnny Booth etc AND stir it together w/some blackened metallic HC (not "metalcore" as apparently that describes weirdos who play nu metal-esque reboot riffery AND wore strange masks before COVID--i.e bands like Alpha Wolf or whatever...no offense...just not for me)??
Example: I suck at the aforementioned styles of songwriting on my axe yet it comes out like a differently abled grinding new-era-18V-meets-a less tech & Simple Jack skill-level Curl Up and Die + Refused? I know...sounds as horrible as reading this entire post...that's why i'm asking if I should just tow that line or is it "cool" to be in ur 30s writing 2000s era HC and just never doing any open chug-only breakdowns, only doing a riff then letting the drums do the half-time parts (if that makes sense)
Leave it up to the esp
This is so painfully generic, and yet sounds like at least 50% of most bands albums that we all love 😂
Just cuz something is generic doesn't mean it can't be good haha, I love this stuff too that's why I know how to write it!
Andrew Baena you’re goddamn right homey
@@BaenaCarcosa you so right though
I love generic riffs as long as they are killer
It’s so dope though! Couldn’t stop head banging to that. Generic but it’s still sick 😂
Ah yes right off the bat, the classic 0 12 0 13 12 0 12 10 0 13 0 12 0
Miss May I approves
also linkin park used similar pattern in qwerty verse riff
mein land
13 12 0 0 12 10 0 0
even tool did this on forty six and two thats how i learned
Me: *still f*king enjoys how it sounds*
Lets be honest, we all love hearing a good by the books metalcore song every now and then. Nailed it bro \m/
No 5-7-8??? Not metal core enough smh
Had the same idea
Or the good Old 8-5-0-3!
@@the12lookslikeyou bmth sleep walking chorus
Damn this brings back memories
Im new to guitar..what exactly does 5 7 8 mean?
Thanks
Call it generic all you want, I’ll admit I replayed that song over and over again about 20 times. Make it longer. I’ll pay for that
Metalcore currently has reached a point where your "generic" riffs sounds very interesting, fresh and innovative compare to 90% of what bands are currently doing.
Sounds like old school Bury Your Dead. Lol.
Oh damn RGT 85 listens to metal? 😳
It does sound like something off of Beauty And The Breakdown
@@YaBoyJRock42069 Totally sounds like that record.
Agree!
OMG! Losing it^^
My favorite part is how the Windows error sound at 3:02 was in tune with your open C
neck pickup gang!
generic metalcore still bangs. lots of bands are still doing it, especially in hardcore, and for some reason triplet breakdowns still do it for me.
do you mean hertas/gallops or actual triplets
@@shubaki6778 Both are great when it comes to the generic breakdown, but actual triplets. Like the second half of the first breakdown riff from Triumph by Elysia
@@D0VEWORLD Elysia. Wow. Throwbacks
Did you just teach me how to write an early 2010s Of Mice & Men song?
@jancsi 1 obsolete was a banger not gonna lie 🤣
1:29 I too give the occasional stank face to generic metalcore riffs
Ps: I find these types of riffs super fun to play even I they aren't too difficult, give me some OM&M the flood album riffs and I'll have a good time
Ya didn't have the generic gunshot sound effect on the breakdown...missed opportunity lol ;)
Early 2000’s metalcore was the best metalcore. Change my mind.
That's true, definitely way better than most of the bands now. At The Gates-core for the win 😆🤘
Bleeding Through!!!
On Broken Wings baby
Any more early 2000s metal core bands that are good please it's hard to search
@@oopsyboops4806 KSE, Trivium (Ascendancy is my personal favorite), AILD, The Agony Scene (They sounded really dark), old Bullet For My Valentine, Bleeding Through, Atreyu, to name a few.
While that writing is generic, as a vocalist, there is a lot I could do to spice it up. You can either make it sound like There Is A Hell era BMTH or like a heavier old school Vanna vibe. Having a good vocalist with their own sound and style can make all the difference.
AGREED. #FellowVocalist
Ahhh....My fellow Vocal Annihilators...I too Concur!!!!!✊😎
and in my opinion the drums can do a lot as well to Spice It Up!
I gotta be the only person here who doesn’t hear a single shred of Vanna musically in this. BMTH? That one I can get behind.
Thanks Andrew. I'ma need one of these for every metal genre stat.
Love this man, I've got 0 music theory so loved being able to watch a video like this!
Waiting for "generic metalcore song" tuned down.
That tone when the main riff kicked in was 🔥🔥🔥
"I have the most generic metalcore guitar of all time"
*me literally holding my EC-1000 gloss black with EMGs as I watch*: Well, fuck
If this is metalcore then those pickups must be the EMG 81/85 combo
Defiantly reminds me of a day to remember song for sure! Great video!
I have been writing metal for awhile. You explained a lot of the techniques I use better than I ever could.
Thank you for showing these techniques. I will use them for the song I have been writing.
This is so good for a spubd check..and theres a lot of techniques that i got in this one since im just a beginner..thank you..
how the hell do you come up with this stuff? each time I come up with a riff it always just comes back to 0-3-5
You haven't been writing for a long time, right?
@@drkstrnd yes, I haven’t been writing for a long time
@@doomslayer_ch4280 listen to as much of the music, you wanna write something similar to, but don't watch tabs or tutorials, just try to figure out for yourself how to play it, with this you will get a kinda unique approach to the music you wanna make.
And obviously practice your pull offs, hammer ons and your picking hand speed...
Have fun learning to write some bangers ;)
@@drkstrnd ok, thank you! I’ll make sure to try this!
@@doomslayer_ch4280 also learn theory! a lot of people say that theory "ruins creativity", but that's bullshit. even just getting a grasp of natural and harmonic minor scales has improved my writing a LOT. www.musictheory.net/ is a site where you can get theory lessons and exercises for free.
This is basically Crystal Lake's rollin tuned 2 steps higher
was just about to say this
Hilarious seeing my brother in-law get called out so hard on his guitar choice. Used to be in a metalcore band in the mid 2000's and he still has this exact guitar. It really was and still is a workhorse!
It's a great guitar haha! Wouldn't be so widely used if it wasn't
Great manual! It's just an amazing video!
Really agressive riffs! Love them!
Damn, I'm recording my first project (not metalcore) and I'm struggling so hard to mix my songs. Bass sounds too present but when I lower it, she disappears in the mix. The guitar doesn't explode like I would like her to do. Your mix sounds so good that's insane
Use the eq on the deum kick tô sound in 60hz , and the Bass in the 80hz , after up the Harmonic 160hz, Just talking Abou the bases zones, but It Will help
@@SetflyRock OK thanks man I'll try this out!
Multi track your guitars and have one left and one right and make sure to make the kick and snare the most present thing then the bass just wants to hold the beat so remove the mids and high and low pass to taste if you want abit more clarity and impacted
@@joesmith5617 hey thanks for your help ! I'm recording my second project and this is exactly what I'm doing, it's helping a lot !
sounds great! What did you use for guitar and bass amps here?
I liked everything about this video except your bashing of the Ltd ec-1000 ..those are insanely versatile haha awesome vid
No bashing intended! They're great guitars there's a reason a ton of people use them
Love you Andrew, your such a good guitarist n content creator👊🏻 man I appreciate you so much S/o from Chicago come play a show here soon
so, you dont know how well timed this was in my life. too muvh to explain but thank you
Sounds exactly like BMTH - Alligator blood)))but i like it so much, thx for vid🤘🏻
Thanks for the advice man! Greatly appreciated!
Highly appreciated that crab thumbnail
Awesome tips man!
Dude. I like this guy and regret not keeping up with him like I should. Great way to explain how to explain yourself to people who know and have studied and been trained with music theory. I play by ear and feel and I still have to count my frets after playing for 20+ years.
Andrew Baena should try writing some thing heavy in drop D tuning on a 6 string guitar.
Like this so Andrew Baena can see this
Love that tone. Plugin or amp?
hey man.........I'm still sad the day I sold my EC-1000..........still my favorite guitar that I have ever owned. Currently rocking Bjorn's epiphone though and its mighty fine.
THat actually helped a lot thanks
I domt even know who you are and yet I'm early
Just because its generic doesn't mean it doesn't SLAP!
what size of strings do you use on this guitar?
DAMN THE TONES!
You've wrote a new Blessthefall song 🤘
I just found out I like generic metalcore...
I love generic riffs as long they are killer
A yes... My playlist for the last ten years. And DO NOT FAQ with drop see. 😳. And where is my 5-7-8 riff bro?
Still sounds so fucking good!! Miss that sound I grew up on 👌
Last time I was this early...
I was this this early.
(Love the riffs
Yoo where can I get that Black Tengue shirt tho??
Is there any way of downloading the drums used in this?
I love that guitar I want to get myself an e 1000 set it up for Drop B
What guitar effects do you use?
Do you have a video on good entry-level guitars for newer guitarists?
the music by itself sounds fine it's just the lyrics that usually suck and ruin this type of music for most people
You make it so easy thank you
Of Mice & Men type beat for sure.
Any chance you could do a tutorial on mixing?
The bass tone is gnarly
Why did you have to do me like this...
I have an LTD ec256 and I am just in the midst of consolidating some riffs into a song in Drop C.
It sounds like this 😂
The EC1000 is the icing on the generic metalcore cake.
So.. where can I buy your album again? >_>
First time I have ever heard you mention and/or use a neck pickup that I am aware of...
Edit: I will cherish it ;) no hate! I barely use any of mine. Just taking note. Keep up the killer work!
Cherish it
I'm only here for that light panel on the wall.
I should have expected this. But I didn't. Being unexpected is odd for metalcore if I'm honest.
😏
Can you do a riff evolution for Alter Bridge? Or Rise Against?
Could be from emmure speaker of the Dead
already better than the ambient stuff that's on all the spotify core playlists
Andrew "head movement" Baena... It seems the name of a Boxing Legend 🤣. Love You Andrew 💜
Thought he was starting out by covering the Crystal Lake cover of Rollin by Limp Bizkit.
Would still take caveman riffs over this anyday.
Still a guilty pleasure tho.
Kinda reminds me of Celldweller’s Eon.
What kind of string muter do you have?
I love In Due Time by Killswitch, great song
Thank you, kind sir
Hmmm. I know this was supposed to sound like pretty much most metalcore but all I heard was an unreleased song from Killswitch Engage's "Alive Or Just Breathing". 😂
I don't understand that much how music theory is but I understand it a little bit.
Seeing the tips from you really inspiring me to try practice and write another music.
Really helpful video my friends!
Love from Indonesia!
Honestly kinda sounds like Crystal Lake's cover of Rollin'
how do you keep in recording mode with your fiance just hanging out across from you doing her own thing? id feel like such a goober... you do a great job of recording yourself
What are typical key signatures for metalcore? I was late to the genre so not too familiar with many metalcore bands but I wanna start writing in the genre
Usually 4/4 occasionally some technical metalcore bands use 6/8 or something like that. But things start to change in the breakdown
it’s typically not the most technically complicated music, so i’d say it’s mainly 4/4 unless you’re going for a more prog based metalcore.
I can’t answer that, because I’m super new to guitar, but I do know what you’re talking about & these replies are hilarious.
I mean people write in every single key. A lot of the times riffs don't really have a central key, although TONS of bands play leads in the phrygian dominant of whatever note the bottom string of their guitar is in
@@devanandham6609 I’m not talking about time signature ik it’s 4/4 but when I write metalcore sounds too pop and happy so was curious if certain keys naturally create a darker sound. Like ik minor is better than major for metal but that’s all I got
7:35 rollin' by Crystal lake (???
*my life be like ooooooo aaaahhhhhh ooooooooo ahhhhhhhhhh ooooooooo*
Deathcore next plz
you forgot the best part about generic metalcore --- a decent verse with a clean chorus that completely sounds out of place and no good transition!
How I program drums.....
Early for this one
That thumbnail makes me feel violated
That thumbnail is modern art.
This just sounds like an instrumental track from The Flood by OM&M
Mission accomplished!
Listens to video, immediately goes and listens to Fit for a king's new album. 🤘
So it's FFAK's new album?
like is all As I Lay Dying ever did until today XD!
Waaaaiit, when did u get a stingray???!
Opening riff of the first song had some mick gordon Doom eternal sounds 2 it.
I feel like asking alexandria changed the metal core scene when dropped stand up and scream.
then it died....
Up until, wage war came along
Asking Alexandria single handedly ruined the scene.
Uhm architects saved the scene from the damage adking alexandria did
Is stand up and scream considered a good or bad album
@@abravexstove289 in my opinion It was good. It shaped my taste in music and influenced me to listen to other bands such as erra, northlane, architects and more.
Prada like many others were doing that sound way before AA.
1:40 leg day intensifies
😂😂too true
i want to sound like memphis may fire in challenger but I just can't