HK P30 9mm Review
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Why the fuck are people getting so annoyed at the DA trigger pull??? You just have to pull it one fucking time ONE TIME!!! Get over it ffs
That's not the point...
Crab Hammer Cycling care to elaborate then?
***** Yeah or that, still no reason not to buy a gun that is awesome in every other way.
@@eg2jdmthen carry cocked and locked.
He pulled the gun out of a freezer and called it a futuristic time machine! hahaha i love this guys reviews. I'm addicted to his channel
Morrison lko
"Revenge is a dish best served Cold." - John Wick (I think.)
You are right about trigger. It is made 'sub par' on purpose. P30 is service pistol, made for German LE. They have rules on triggers, that set minimum pull length for SA, minimum reset distance, minimum pulls for DA and SA. And those rules set long trigger travel and reset. P30 is designed to meet this requirements, to be allowed for LE use in Germany. For eg. Walther PPQ (9mm travel) is banned from LE use in Germany due to too short travel (they make P99Q with legal 13mm travel for that).
The trigger is a combat trigger much like the P226. It's not supposed to be a range or competition gun. I'm sure Navy seals don't complain about their Sig triggers. They just run them.
I actually prefer these old-school DA/SA triggers because of the crisp single action pull. I carry it cocked, safety on. And if I have a misfire due to bad ammo, I can simply pull the trigger again to fire it in cases of light primer strikes
Why haven't I found this guy before? LIKE! Nice original gun review.
Great review. The trigger pull youre talking about is a safety feature that enables no safety switch.
These pistols are really hard to get, but I was able to finally get one after a year of looking. This did come with the LEM trigger that works really well and I personally love the decocker. Even though I don't agree with everything on the video. I really do agree on the slide and I really did enjoyed this video! Thumbs up!
John Wick's gun
Actually John used the P30 L
Rene Macias no he used this with a compensater
I have the P30 and the P30sk, both V1 lite LEM, with the Gray Guns Reduced Reset kit in both of them... now they are perfect for me 👍.. love this channel dude👍!!! Keep up the great job and keep the info coming 👍
As a left hander, thank you for acknowledging our pain, hahaha. Seriously though for most guns i have found being left handed as a benefit. My only gripe is on guns with right hand only safeties. Slide stop, don't care. Mag release, don't care. Safety, gotta be ambi
Hey Colion, I really like your videos. I've had my P30 in 40cal for a few years & I love it. It does work flawlessly (even with the long trigger pull.) I have noticed that if I shot a lot of ammo through it my trigger finger will get a blister riding on the magazine release. Keep up the good work and fighting the good fight!
You do the best reviews on a gun that I've ever watched!!! Keep doing them man.
One of the best reviews I have had the pleasure of watching, very intelligent, well done!!
This is my first review watch from this channel and I must say I am pleased. Thank you
Love the intro... glad to see you back to the gun reviews!
I'm glad you said "should be striker fired"... I think hammers are antiquated and unnecessary, not to mention a snag risk. Aesthetically, I agree this is one of the most good looking guns I've seen in a while.
You need to get one with the light LEM trigger.
As much as Mr. Noir loves the features of the P30, I would love to see him review one with the LEM trigger
I love how the time machine is your freezer! Good review!
I love your gun reviews. Keep 'em coming.
This is a very good review. I like how you incorporate personal preference with specs.
Great music and visual.
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Thanks for video .really liked it great info too .I've been on fence about the p30..
Informative and entertaining, keep them coming Colin!
Tried a HK P30 with LEM, that felt nice. All HKs make you fall in love with them when you look at the detail and hold it in your hand till you pull that double action trigger.
Even though I don't particularly like the HK P30 or the mag release and the trigger pull, you made this review great to watch. Keep up the great work, we're behind you 100%.
Just got mine, and I love it!
I want to buy my P30 9 millimeter next month I love it shoots very well it handles very well and it was a good investment
The P30 in .40 is going to be my next handgun.. but my real comment is about your videos.. really exceptional in every regard.. The quality of the writing and voice track too is very creative and quite amazing. This particular video is much better than most gun tv shows I watch.
Great video. Nothing better on TH-cam than seeing someone explain why they love something.
I have a Sig 226 TacOps 9mm that had a double/single action trigger too.. The heavy double action is meant to aid in stopping negligent discharges.. The single action trigger on Sigs are outstanding though, mine has around a 4 1/2 lb pull with the SRT, or "short-trigger reset".. It is as perfect as it gets for a defensive handgun.. I agree, the P30 looks to be extremely comfortable, I've never held one so I'm gonna check one out next time I get a chance
Lovely production and nice writing. Really nice narration.
Well put together video I really enjoyed it.
Colion, when I die, I want you to narrate some of my life deeds. I love your eloquence.
Great review style. This was like guns and ammo meets cigar aficionado .very classy
Went to my local range/gun shop not really looking to get this gun, but I was looking to get a good well rounded gun. Not too big or small that I could conceal carry if I wanted to. There was one there for $650. Never had and HK, because they always cost so much in the past. For the price I thought I would try it. After getting it and playing with it, I really noticed the issues with the trigger. I got the Gray Guns short reset kit, after market nickel sear spring, and 10 lbs hammer spring before ever shooting it. So now, not only does it feels great in the hand, reset is shorten nearly by half, and trigger pull is much nicer, but not a hair trigger that you would have to worry about. So for $750 all in for a really nice HK with custom parts and a reliable of about 90k rounds with no major failures. I see myself hanging on to this gun for a good while.
Looking forward to the range review. Been thinking about getting a P30 myself for a few months now
LOL where do you come up those lines??? I am a Colt NUT! But I have to say your a entertaining young man. More power to you.
HK builds a great gun. I have a USP in 40 S&W and I love it!
Wow, great camera work...really nice production all the way around. What? Fine. Nice info on the sidearm as well. ;) Thanks!
I’ve found that sweeping the mag release with your weak hand on the way down (of course allowing the magazine to drop freely) feels a lot more natural and has increased my reload speed while allowing me to maintain my grip with my strong hand. A good, high grip (which I use) can sometimes make it hard to push the mag release down at first, but with training it becomes soooo smooth
I just use my trigger finger. Is smooth and fast. Feels more natural for me than a button release.
Correct. My point, though, was that the de-cocker is on the left.
Cool review. I have the HK45c and love it. Look forward to the range review.
Love my P30 .an absolute beast
Just a note to about the mag release on HK guns. I find it more ergonomic to use my trigger (index) or middle finger to engage the mag release, than my thumb. I find that I tend to have to break my grip to engage the mag release with my thumb on the HK (where as on a Glock or M&P I don't). However, when I use my middle finger or trigger finger, I don't have to break my grip. I actually find I don't compromise my grip at ALL when using this technique. Just my $.02
Classy review, I obtained the DAO lite LEM this week, it'll be something different then my DA/SA Beretta, Sigs, and my 1911's. Liked your well thought out comments and analogies. Thx.
To make the P30 trigger much better simply pull out the hammer spring and trim off about 3 rungs. It lightens it up just enough yet still no light strikes. I have had my P30 for over 3 years now so I have time to back this up.
Best part about the video is the production. Awesome job!
Very nice. If the magazine release is anything like my USP 45 I found that using your trigger finger works much easier.
I miss these kinda of videos by Colion, yah shooting at range is cool ,but less gushing over boutique ar pistols and more on these classics.
Own two HK P30's, one is my EDC gun. I just set up another P30 with a ekfire threaded barrel and a Osprey 9 suppressor. :)
Gotta love all the car comparisons
0:45 Is that your refrigerator? :P, that's some movie magic right there.
Beautiful firearm, and great review. Love the Metal Gear Solid style music too.
Great vid. The trigger is not as bad as you think. The trigger also comes in other variants so you can pick what type you like.
Great video.... I love my P30. Been trying to get a treaded barrel for it. Cant find any parts. But I still Love the gun.
got the HK45 and Love it!
Pretty cool you used a BMW M6's transmission as an anology to the hammer :)
As of the start of 2018, these have a reduced price.
The MSRB is $700, but the store price is
TheNinjaDC I was just saying this. I think because there’s obvious better options now.
Literally just found mine for $499. After sales tax and other fees/shipping... I’m still under $580. Buy them while they’re cheap!
Good review it's about time there's a review on the hkp30 were the person gives an honest review on how this gun just fuckn rocks thank you
If you want a striker fired gun that looks and feels similar to the HK P30, the Walther P99 has been filling that role since 1996 The P99 also has a great single / double action trigger with a decocker, and an amazingly short reset.
Or the vp9 now
Well done. Thanks.
Trigger isn't that great BUT that is an actual slide release not just a slide lock, hence fact that it sticks out a bit much like other handguns which have a slide release. The decocker is in the perfect place IF it is used as intended. The slide release again is actually more functional (as in ease of use) than a push button release. It is just that many find it harder to drive a caddy when all we have driven previously are Chevettes.
Try operating it with gloves on. Most of us live in areas where winter is a reality, and some of us ride motorcycles when the weather permits. When you have gloves on, you'd better have a pistol you can operate as is. There are no "time outs" for you to take off your gloves. The over sized levers that people complain about really shine when you have gloves on. I love my Glocks, but operating them with gloves on is an absolute PITA. In fact I ended up putting bigger slide releases on almost all of them, and they still suck when wearing gloves. I'm thinking my HK P30 LS will become my new favorite for winter or motorcycle carry.
The trigger is something to get used to. I will admit it is the one drawback so far, but if you think about a stressful defensive shooting situation at close range, with adrenaline pumping through your veins... a DA/SA trigger makes a little more sense. For a range toy, or pistol competition, probably not, but for the real deal... I would not hesitate to choose this gun as my defensive carry any day.
I did bud I have put . awesome piece.now thinking of new Hk.lol
I love my HKs (2 USPs currently). I am looking for an HK45CT tomorrow at my local gun show in Fort Worth. A P30 and P2000 are still on my list though too.
I love your video man, fantastic opening. I just got my P30L (LEM) V1....the trigger on this version is much mkore crisp and better...especially the release, however this model does not have a safety feature at all (which can piss some off). i love this weapon though, it will be my side arm for years to come..nice vid
I picked this up 550 mint condition box and papers 2 mags . No it shouldn’t be striker . It’s perfect the way it is
The H&K P30 is unquestionably my favorite gun. And I have lots of guns. Just something about it screams "operator." Like the man said, "It's a gun that Batman would carry." My trigger is 4.5 pounds, consistently. I can live with that. My SIG 229 is sub 4 pounds, but the H&K just feels more natural. My Canik TP9 Elite is so scary light I hesitate carrying it. Same as my Walther PPQ in 45acp. The P30 is light, but not too light. And, it makes me look good at the range. Get one, you won't regret it.
Now that's a review that makes me want to buy this gun , good talk , I like the way you describe the gun it wasn't or didn't sound mechanical , not like a salesperson more like someone who has a love and more importantly a respect for firearms . looking foreword to your next review .
Yea, I have BPX4 Full and sub compact. Nice guns, did get the P30 this week though.
I have a p2000. The finish comes off the frame so easy. The first 30 minutes I wore it on an expressive holster some of the finish wore off. I called HK, and they said it was because the frame is made of super strong metal. Also Colion Noir is right about the ambidextrous slide release. This is the best left handed slide release. It’s true, if I’m going to eat pinto beans for 4 months to afford this gun, I want a decent trigger.
Can't say I agree that the gun should be a striker fire. I love the way HK crafts their hammer guns and I love that they always have a decocker. What I don't understand, is why the decocker bothered him on this gun, when it's the same system as the P2000, where he loved it. All I can figure is his taste changed with time.
I want a P30L ad the Beretta M9a3 in sniper gray and the Glock 19X black ...oh and a PSA 300 AAC blackout SBR
Great review so far man! I can't wait to see what you think about how the gun shoots. It's a shame that the HK triggers feel like staple guns. It is a really good looking pistol though. A bit hefty on the price for what it is. Personally, I'd buy two PPQ's instead. Thanks for the review, looking forward for the next one!
I would buy the standard P 30 and grey the trig 3 mags and it will be always good to go!
mags for the p30 are $29 at buds, $35 most other places online.
Nice review! Entertaining and informative.
Love my P30. It’s my ED carry.
Had it. Loved it.... slide release, trigger, mag release, and all. I was super accurate with it. Like my MK25 more. And you could get 3 Glock 17s for 1 P30 6 months ago. Way better cost value for far more durable gun.
You are correct sir.
Missed a lot of features about the pistol. Grove cut into the chamber to clean any dirty brass, notches cut out at the base of the grip to rip out dirty/stuck mags, etc etc.
- Trigger is a combat trigger.. Meant for duty, not comp. Overtravel is minimal, reset is long to prevent a second panic shot. I'll admit the double action pull is a bit gritty.
- Pistol does come in striker fired.
- Try the decocker when re-holstering into OWB - What it was designed for.
It is very fascinating to see a kool review like this as a German guy. I guess we are kind of cold hearded to a thing like a gun, espeacialliy if you use it in your job.
finally have been waiting for this for a while after the teaser ;)
got a P30 myself :)
Great review; nice background music, beautiful gun.
@J Thom you have to try an LEM and be comfortable not having an external safety. Once you realize you're carrying a semi auto hand gun with the trigger of a revolver it makes sense. Long and smooth. Better than any Taurus or Ruger DA trigger pull. But I was saying he should try the SA/DA variant. HK's SA/DA isn't hat bad at all.
These are the same pros/cons I feel about my P2000. I love the reliability and feel of H&K handguns but I cannot, for the life of me, understant why they needed to put in such a heavy trigger pull. (Or such a huge take up and reset on said trigger). I have never been a double action only fan, (nothing wrong AT ALL with them, just personal preferance), but it does need some work.
Freezer: Ultra futuristic Time machine
The DA/SA trigger on the P30 is pretty okay, but the LEM trigger is pure awesomeness, it is quite possibly the best DA trigger ever outside of a classic S&W revolver.
My personal take on the trigger pull is that H&K did a heavier pull due to fine motor skills loss under high stress, also the trigger seems a wide and flatter so it can do well with a high pull rate. See how you like it on the range then go somewhere you can sprint 50 yards and take a 25+ yard shot a few times and see how you like the heavier pull. Now as far as the take up, reset, creep, and non tactile engagement of the trigger...... That sucks.
Being a lefty in considering one of those. I've herd good things
"I wish I had less bullets, said no one, EVER" : Colion Noir - (My fav' quote from you. Been stealin it a lot, but I usually give you credit... usually. :) )
Thanks a lot.
I've been wanting one of these for a while.
Awesome review !
Keep up the fight!!
Sometimes I get a failure to lock on the last round from my thumb riding the slide release lever. The P2000 release is shorter and an easy swap. I've seen guys just cut down the stock lever too and finish with liquid blue (lack of better term)
Well I have been waiting for this review. I WANT ONE!!!!!
Very entertaining review! As for the gun itself, I'd say it doesn't look any more sexy than a Walther PPQ -- and the trigger of the PPQ will just about make you cry it's so smooth and short on the reset.
it works well though and it's completely out of the way so it's actually really good
mine only makes sense compared to other pistols if this is the LEM trigger. Do like the gun tho.. its both a performer and a looker.
Have you slammed a loaded mag into the gun yet? Auto-reload..a built in trait of assertive mag insertion, the slide releases and loads the new round, gets you into the fight just that hair bit faster..