The Ghost Pistol: H&K P30

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  • You never hear about it but you probably should. The H&K P30 is a solid pistol used by some military entities and agencies. It has a good track record. With so many other excellent GTW pistol designs such as Walther PPQ, Canik TP9, Beretta APX, FN 509, FNS, Glocks, XDMs, M&Ps, Steyr M9A1, & others it's easy to miss. Here we take it on several desert outings and show you the quirks and capabilities of the P30. Jardine and Doodle [here in this review] are the crew. Lefties might consider the P30 ambi features; they're better than most. Accuracy was excellent but the hammer drop was unfavored. A couple of jams on this highly used range pistol ensued but then went away. In the end we will consider if the P30 stands against the competition and if we'd buy it now..
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  • @raymondk8415
    @raymondk8415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Carried the P30SK for a while. Very accurate gun. Just too fat compared to the competition.

    • @reptilesgamers00
      @reptilesgamers00 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What did you end up carrying?

    • @raymondk8415
      @raymondk8415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      reptilesgamers00 I rotate between my PC Edition M&P Shield and my Glock 26, depending on what clothes I’m wearing.
      I was surprised Nutn called the P30 similar in width to a Glock because my P30SK was noticeably thicker in carry than my Glock 26. Ambi slide release doesn’t help.

    • @cpblackw
      @cpblackw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have and carry both P30SK and the G26, I haven’t really noticed a difference in widths other than appearances but for me the noticeable width difference are due to the safety and slide release, other than that I haven’t noticed a real difference

    • @still.thinkin8997
      @still.thinkin8997 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too fat, not too phat

    • @flurfdawg6611
      @flurfdawg6611 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My girlfriend said something similar about me.

  • @Sprice93USAF
    @Sprice93USAF 6 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I’d take a P30 over a VP9

    • @animavesta9554
      @animavesta9554 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      S M what about p30 or usp cant decide. Birthdays coming up and i have never shot a hk before so i am pretty clueless as to which one to go with.

    • @Sprice93USAF
      @Sprice93USAF 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Animá Vesta look at the military arms test of them, the vp9 has been less reliable for a lot of people. I prefer the M&P over all other pistols though, and right now they’re very inexpensive. Out of all hk’s I would most want the p2000. It is more simple and refined, in a size that is easy to carry. If it’s just a range gun then go with whatever gives you a tingley feeling lol

    • @MattH-wg7ou
      @MattH-wg7ou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ive had both. In 9mm. Standard model of each. Still have my P30 not the VP9. But I prefer DA/SA anyway, they're both great.

    • @Tacteyecool
      @Tacteyecool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      P30sk everyday of the week....

    • @Sprice93USAF
      @Sprice93USAF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tacteyecool I'm not a fan of double stack guns that small, but you do you Pikachu

  • @MilitantX1
    @MilitantX1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I've had my HK P30 for a few years! I absolutely love it! I also have the HK P30sk, VP9, VP9sk, HK USP Compact 9mm, 2 ea USP Compact .45's, and the HK 45c. Yeah, yeah, yeah! HK's are my thing! Lol!

  • @rudrashakti108
    @rudrashakti108 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Love this gun. Probably has the best ergonomics of any gun as well.
    In relation to the vp9, I actually prefer hammers. What else, I love the German style mag release, the slide release, and the decocker. it’s soft shooting and just plain pleasant. with the known dependability of a HK, I am good with this gun as we face the near future.
    Edit: ok nutnfancy can’t stop talking about the decocker. You decock the hammer when you are preparing to put it back on the nightstand, holster, etc. it’s not for going into immediate combat. After you are done shooting, during which the slide will have cocked the hammer for you each time, well, you decock it when you are no longer facing a threat. So who cares if you break your grip a tad to decock it. For me it’s well placed. I do like it’s location.
    Some people just need something to talk about I guess.
    Overall, perfect gun.

  • @SwitchbackGuitars
    @SwitchbackGuitars 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love my P30 V3 9mm. After thousands of trouble free rounds I trust it implicitly. As a lefty, it’s one of the most ambi-friendly guns out there. Did a deep cleaning last week. Discovered the firing pin spring was broken. Don’t know for how long because the gun just kept running. A five minute phone call and $15 bucks later I have a new set of springs (all but the recoil spring) coming from Hk. So much for the reports of bad customer service. And yes I put the broken firing pin back in, in the meantime. And it still runs.

  • @RobbDzzz
    @RobbDzzz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I think most peoples issue with the magazine release is ignorance in how to use. It is not intended that you use your thumb to release. Use either your trigger or second finger on your shooting hand and it works fantastically!

    • @mjcusack
      @mjcusack 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hit the nail on the head

    • @olathestanwalker6717
      @olathestanwalker6717 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't like the mag release initially. Guys I worked with at the range finally talked me into buying a VP9 and I love it. Use it for action pistol competitions and have become very comfortable with the mag release. As it has been said before, it's all about how you train.

    • @uncletrick1
      @uncletrick1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I actually prefer the paddle release. Once you get used to it, it's tough to go back to the thumb release.

    • @room2376
      @room2376 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was worried about it when I got mine. But training with it and using my trigger finger. Now I love it

    • @jeremymitchell9970
      @jeremymitchell9970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anyone of these "reviewer's" (that are constantly hating on the HK's) or at least saying that there are better options...should just carry and use one for a few months, and alot of minds will be changed. I know because I have glocks, Rugers, S&W's and Taurus, but after running the hk....no contest

  • @murphysmuskets
    @murphysmuskets 6 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    How the heck did we get through a 20min review on the P30 without mentioning John Wick??? Total fail ;) TD should be ashamed.....

    • @seantnper881
      @seantnper881 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agree

    • @cheyennebattreal7207
      @cheyennebattreal7207 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Murphey's Muskets or Micheal Weston from burn notice

    • @matthewtarr8213
      @matthewtarr8213 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmao arent they selling the mock compensator with there new p30s?

    • @burak2329
      @burak2329 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Murphey's Muskets John wick had a P30L

    • @wilhathaway1987
      @wilhathaway1987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sanane Lan basically the same gun

  • @UnCivilEngineerIRL
    @UnCivilEngineerIRL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Not worried about the hammer drop "issue" ; if I'm dropping the hammer I'm probably going to re-holster it so I'll be breaking my grip anyway.

    • @aarondiaz1433
      @aarondiaz1433 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      UnCivilEngineerIRL
      Exactly !

    • @thedowntrodden1522
      @thedowntrodden1522 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well not to mention you can actually decock in The holster

    • @theCANaDiAN1987
      @theCANaDiAN1987 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I agree completely and this is why I've never understood people getting bent out of shape over a decocker. In fact the decocker location on my P30L is probably one of my favourite things about the gun.

    • @arsenal_616
      @arsenal_616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Downtrodden Wouldn't you wanna decock your pistol *before* holstering?
      But yeah, I don't see the decocker on the P30 being an issue, honestly.

    • @thedowntrodden1522
      @thedowntrodden1522 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Arsenal 616 yes but I'm just saying it could be a possibility in the design

  • @defiantmopar
    @defiantmopar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think the thought process behind the slide mounted "hammer drop" and breaking your grip to activate it is that you are making the gun "safe" i.e. holstering the pistol. Therefore breaking your grip isn't an issue

  • @shojus
    @shojus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I actually love having that ambi mag release! I'd rather all guns went to that style IMO...

    • @GeoffreyScott571
      @GeoffreyScott571 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, my Dude.

    • @John1911
      @John1911 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed. IMO it’s superior to a button. But it takes zero effort to transition.
      -Marky

  • @emmanuelestrada5914
    @emmanuelestrada5914 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    it drives me nuts how people think that guns shouldnt be lubed before firing. It clearly states in most instruction manual to clean and lube before firing.

    • @SlappingCheeks
      @SlappingCheeks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nutn's notorious for this

    • @boofingdragon
      @boofingdragon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I totally agree. Who would test out their car without oil to see how it runs? No one. Would you buy a new lawn mower and go, I need this to be dependable without oil...nope no one would do it but their gun for some reason needs to do it.

    • @Adamorevo
      @Adamorevo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@boofingdragon Engine? No Engine?

    • @Thunderkat65
      @Thunderkat65 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are many stupid gun owners that never read their owners manual.

    • @Adamorevo
      @Adamorevo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Thunderkat65 I don't read pistol manuals. Only weapons with unique systems will I read the manual. That said, you are correct. If you are not familiar with weapons, you need to read the manuals. If you read one HK or Glock pistol manual, you read them all.

  • @trevormcneil1349
    @trevormcneil1349 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I really like the reviews with you and Tactical Doodle keep them coming.

    • @bradg2069
      @bradg2069 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I couldn't agree more. Actually, I can!

    • @aarondiaz1433
      @aarondiaz1433 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nay td was wrong about hammer drop!😝

  • @cmartin1775
    @cmartin1775 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have owned 7 of these HK p30 in V3 configurations. And now I have 2 that aren’t going anywhere I regret it every time I sell it. Hands down best 9mm poly gun ever made in my opinion

  • @blingz1997
    @blingz1997 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Owned a P30L for a year and have over 2,000rds though it. NutN is right about the trigger pull and reset. Only had a couple of hiccups, FTFs only during brake in haven't seen any since. His rating is far. In my eyes I think its a 4 due to better accuracy. The decocker is different but not a deal beaker. Was lucky to get 4 mags free with purchase total of 6mags total cost $800. Value is a 5 for me. Reliability give it a 4. Trigger is a 3. Recoil is a 3.5 and cool factor a 4 it looks sweet. Accuracy a 4.5, Comfort is a 5, Sights is a 4. The most comfortable grip on a pistol so far for me. Everyone has different hands. Thanks Nutn for the review.

  • @revellan7gaming273
    @revellan7gaming273 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review, I especially enjoy the reviews that TD is able to participate in. Means I am listening to a conversation, not just an extremely informative monologue.

  • @fritzd2116
    @fritzd2116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Picked up a P30V3 in 9X19 a few weeks back. I already have 800rds through it and it is quickly becoming one of my favorites, the rear decocking lever notwithstanding. As far as the magazine release goes, I like the location on the trigger guard-but I have been shooting USP's since 1994 and am quite used to hitting the mag release with my trigger finger. Great video.

  • @DavidV4444
    @DavidV4444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great review - I would buy the P30 over EVERY gun out there - for me, it’s the absolute best.

    • @johnnybeanz1296
      @johnnybeanz1296 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      DavidV I agree with you and I own some other nice guns including hk 45 and hk P30sk. Great guns, but the p30 was my first hk and still my favorite. I would have got the p30l if they had it at the time. A half inch more barrel isn’t worth the upgrade.

  • @ApharmdBattler
    @ApharmdBattler 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a H&K fanboy simply because I'm left handed and their pistols are nirvana to me. Especially with the ambi slide release and paddle mag release. Currently looking for a nice deal on a P30L to go with my P30sk, VP9 and VP9sk. The ability to interchange magazines keeps me loyal to the brand.

  • @gilbertvelez7647
    @gilbertvelez7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude your videos are educational and informative. I just got my 4th p30,not all at one time but in about 2 yr period. I usually dont comment but you deserve it for your hard work. Stay safe and prepared sir

  • @twbtwb2680
    @twbtwb2680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have to say out of 27 pistols this is my absolute favorite it took me about three sessions at the shooting range to get used to the mag release and now I wish every gun was like this I absolutely love the mag release whether you use your index finger or your thumb I am so much faster which is kind of crazy to say but I will say they did this pistol right!!!!

  • @mrkend69
    @mrkend69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the paddle mag release on the H&K's. Found mine to be very intuitive even for a novice shooter at the time.

  • @chickenmon
    @chickenmon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I carry my P30sk every day. Cleaned it while watching your video. Keep up the good work!

  • @Clanc54R
    @Clanc54R 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the only gun I've ever sold and regretted the decision. Thanks for this review. Need to get another one.

  • @curtiscopeland7975
    @curtiscopeland7975 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased a used P30 sk. I fired hundreds of rounds through it before I cleaned and oiled it(don't ask why). I've never had a jam. Never had it not lock open. Carry it every day. Awesome video as always! Thanks

  • @tommahainy5985
    @tommahainy5985 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always love TNP video's. I remember trying to figure out what my first gun was going to be back in 2015. I watched your video on the kel-tec su16 and I was sold. The day I turned 18 I picked one up from the local shop

  • @adamzaslavsky554
    @adamzaslavsky554 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You and Tactical Doodle are such great reviewers, thanks for ALL your hard work,

  • @TheGlasspix
    @TheGlasspix 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On a night stand duty protecting my family since 2010. Two FTEs from about 2500 rounds, utterly dependable and tough as nails. No corrosion, no wear even after a number of snow and rainy outings. I have handled a lot of guns since I bought it, this would still be my first choice.

  • @Biodoc100
    @Biodoc100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I understand your point about the interchangeable grip panels. However, a few years back, I bought an FNS-9. The flat backstrap felt better to me. However, in checking my natural point of aim, the front sight always came up low. Switching to the rounded backstrap, the point of aim was dead on for me. I quickly got used to the feel of the rounded backstrap, and I LOVE the gun now. In my case, having the options made a significant for someone with average sized hands. Anecdotal, yes, but just my two cents...

  • @johnouellet4099
    @johnouellet4099 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review, love this channel, no bs, real reviews

  • @dustincleveland2590
    @dustincleveland2590 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought my P30 last month ! First gun ever ! It's awesome :)

  • @jownbey
    @jownbey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    My man shaquile o’neal says he ccw’s the mark 23 and needs a nutnfancy review lol

  • @kleec7879
    @kleec7879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The MK 23 was only used for what is called "wet work" it did the job very well and is still my favorite 1911 style combat pistol. The P30 is a great self defense/LE/MIL pistols as well. HK is the only manufacturer (that I am aware of) that makes weapons with the possibility of handling a squib round without the weapons becoming a hand grenade.

  • @Ecompton77
    @Ecompton77 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The father son reviews and vids are my favorite, keep up the great work guys.

  • @Brimwald
    @Brimwald 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just supported you on Patreon Nutn. Keep up the great work! You have the best reviews out there, and I watch most of the major gun channels. You're the only one I support on Patreon. I, like so many others, want to see your content keep rolling out.

  • @Jordan-ce7sf
    @Jordan-ce7sf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for reviewing HK’s! I EDC my P30sk LEM and love it. In defense of my Mark 23, it’s the Porsche 959 of handguns. If you view it in those terms, it makes sense.

  • @LinkxUSMC87
    @LinkxUSMC87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even later to the party than NF haha. I love my P30. I have the v1 light LEM, was nice stock but doing the grey guns short reset and flat face trigger made it amazing. Still my favorite pistol today.

  • @ripcordjr5696
    @ripcordjr5696 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HIK P30 SK Version 1 Lem trigger LE model Rocks. Best version in my opinion... Very good carry weapon. Tx for the great review.

  • @kensakata5124
    @kensakata5124 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The LEM version (most commonly the V1 model in the US) address some of the quirks with the trigger and I feel is the better version of the P30 series. HK DA/SA triggers are far from being the best out of the box and the LEM provides a consistent SA-like trigger with the safety of a long initial (but much lighter)take up on the first shot. There’s no decocker as the hammer drops itself when you release the trigger, and the trigger weight is not heavy enough to make trigger flex an issue. Most shooters don’t understand the LEM trigger and think it’s a true DAO system - it is not. The mainspring remains fully compressed although the external hammer remains fully down. The initial long DA like trigger stroke is lighter because the only resistance you’re working against comes from the trigger return spring, hammer return spring, sear, and firing pin safety spring. The only time a shooter would have to deal with a full weight true DA pull is if the gun misfired on a live round and the slide didn’t cycle.
    Also edited to add - failure to lock back on the last round for many shooters is related to the large and convenient slide lock levers that can be accidentally activated by a high thumbs grip. The solution for me was to install the factory short levers (which are standard on the manual safety models). They stay just out of the way of my thumbs but are still accessible.

    • @davidlane6808
      @davidlane6808 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ken Sakata Hey Ken I’m looking at getting a V1 LEM. The only question I can’t seem to find an answer to is how do you drop the hammer when you want to holster with a round in the chamber with no decocker? Just use your thumb while pulling the trigger like a revolver?
      I understand the hammer drops when shooting. Just not how comfortable people are dropping the hammer like a revolver on a loaded chamber.

    • @TheBwalker97
      @TheBwalker97 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David Lane you don't decock the LEM pistols, that's half the reason for buying one. The hammer stays in the down position until you pull the trigger. Trying to decock it like a revolver is stupid and will without a doubt result in a round discharging.

    • @davidlane6808
      @davidlane6808 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheBwalker97 thanks bud. Since I made that comment I now own one and all the mysteries are laid to rest. I didn’t quite understand the LEM system at that time.

    • @TheBwalker97
      @TheBwalker97 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Lane Great, I hope you're liking it. Which p30 did you get?

    • @sanninjiraiya
      @sanninjiraiya 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So would it be accurate to compare the LEM trigger to something like the LH9 Double Action Plus system?

  • @gnoob2gnoob449
    @gnoob2gnoob449 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review. The P30 with LEM trigger was my first semi auto pistol. As a gun noob and leftie, the P30 offered 100% ambidextrous controls and the LEM trigger was great for dry fire without racking between trigger pulls. Also the P30 looks awesome and in my humble opinion, it seems a lot of semi's are taking design queues from it.

  • @stephensundet8472
    @stephensundet8472 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had a p30 for 4 years. Around 8,000 rounds through it. I changed the sights, sent it off to have the trigger reset and weight reduced, and now I love it. Ergonomics are fantastic. Expensive yes, but shoots well, and controls are intuitive after some training. I shoot left handed (most of the time) and the decocker works more comfortably for me in my left hand than right

  • @thefucrew9865
    @thefucrew9865 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was thinking of purchasing this.
    Have shot it several times.
    Feels good.
    Thank you for the review !

  • @squib3083
    @squib3083 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    P30 V3 is my favorite polymer pistol. thx for review.

  • @aarondiaz1433
    @aarondiaz1433 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Talking about breaking your grip to activate decocker is really stupid
    You dropping jammer cause your done shooting and setting it back to double action so why is it a big deal !?!?!

  • @Doughboy1941
    @Doughboy1941 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love it when Doodle is in the vid.

  • @user-fx9jj2xh1n
    @user-fx9jj2xh1n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Starting to see ad’s on nutnfancy. Congrats!

  • @aarondiaz1433
    @aarondiaz1433 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Dont forget P30 came out first , then PPQ. then vp9!

    • @jackwatts9030
      @jackwatts9030 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, a little irritating when they framed it like the P30 was trying to get a slice of the PPQ pie.

    • @kevinyoung947
      @kevinyoung947 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea I assumed he meant that for the vp9

    • @aarondiaz1433
      @aarondiaz1433 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kevin Young
      The point was VP 9 was taking inspiration from the 2006 Hk p30 not the 2011 PPQ!
      His channel is definitely one of my favorites for last few years but I'm starting to see that he was way off on things he should be better informed about!
      Hes comparison of HK USP compact to Glock 17 was horrible
      Its G19 size not 17

    • @protectiverailroaddad7541
      @protectiverailroaddad7541 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but the ppq takes inspiration from the p99, which came before the p30 and p2000

  • @kinnertubbyson
    @kinnertubbyson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all the content. After today...the end is nigh

  • @HAACKER45
    @HAACKER45 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the mag release on my VP9! Wish more guns offered the option.

  • @pkgreens_9998
    @pkgreens_9998 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You and doodle are still the only people I see shooting with their off hand index finger resting on the front of the trigger guard...still impressed that you two have mastered that grip lol...hope to continue seeing quality content thru patreon if not on comi-tube

  • @tannerb5716
    @tannerb5716 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice honest review . Well done

  • @ahernandez9860
    @ahernandez9860 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The late Todd Greene did an amazing write up which sold me. Great left hand pistol in LEM v1 for me. Love the big slide release on right side. Mine has no safety and decocker, real straight forward. All my friends hate it because the long trigger, but this does not bother me as it is for me. Upgraded to trijicon night sights, yea buddy very nice. Break in period took about 5-600 rds of 147 grain. Looking forward to vp9 purchase as mags are interchangeable.

  • @tomwindmeier3625
    @tomwindmeier3625 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've carried my h&k p30 for 2 years now, I've replaced all the springs to lighten the trigger pull (helps with the arthritis). I like the DA/SA instead of having a safety. I've put thousands of rounds through it and the only failure was the slide spring breaking. The gun still worked because the spring is flat and it just pushed against itself and still cycled the slide. By the way it's the first hand gun I ever purchased.

  • @davidelizabeth4933
    @davidelizabeth4933 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done, Jardine!

  • @the_lancaster_libertarian
    @the_lancaster_libertarian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I had one of these in my hand at the gun store. I ended up wasting my money on a Para black ops. I should have bought a p30.

  • @DaddyGarand
    @DaddyGarand 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have had my P30 for several years now, unfortunately it is usually left in the safe in favor of my P2000 and M&Ps, but it is undoubtedly a solid gun and is one of my favorites. Just wish the aftermarket support was a bit more favorable.

  • @MattH-wg7ou
    @MattH-wg7ou 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a small handful of great pistols. 226 Mk25, CZ75 Stainless, Sig 1911 Extreme, G19, standard 226, had 228 and 229, M&P9f, etc. But my P30 I have had the longest of the ones I still have, and it has always been my "Go To". I shoot it the best by far. The trigger can be improved with springs and time/wear in (shouldnt have to, but its an option if it bothers you that much. Mine is totally acceptable). I have put Trijicon HD night sights on it. Love it. Outstanding pistol. 100% reliable for me and super accurate and ergonomic. The finish has worn gracefully and is super tough. Mine is a 2009 model. The slide release levers have turned bronzish within the first couple years. I love the mag release. I use my trigger finger.
    However!: My one complaint is mag capacity. Not that 15 isnt enough. Just...the mag is the same size as other companies 16-18rd mags! Why can Glock fit 15rds in a mag thats 70% the physical size of the P30 mag!? Why can MecGar/Sig fit 18rds in a mag the same size? CZ - 16rds - same size.
    The trigger flex bothers me too. I wish someone made an aftermarket solid metal replacement. GrayGuns where you at?! The reset isnt great either. Especially compared to a 226 with GGI P-SAIT + SRT. Now THAT is a great/super short reset!

  • @NoPointToSurrender
    @NoPointToSurrender 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice overall review. My only thought with the stovepipes and ftf's is that your friend who loaned it probably never cleaned the extractor, as many don't. Hammer out the roll pins from the top of the slide (inside out), barrel side pin releases the extractor. It's likely why the extractor's chamber indicator is stuck too. Simple fix.

  • @mattlebkuecher5502
    @mattlebkuecher5502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the first handguns i was exposed to that i shot well was an H&K P30. We were sighting in guns to prepare for a hunt, a guy had one and asked if i wanted to shoot it. A beer can was laying out at 40-50 yards and hit it 2nd shot. I was taken back and made a mental note of the gun. years later working in a pawn shop we had one come out for sale. I always loved the ergonomics and the reputation that H&K brings to the table. I was offered a chance to buy it for $450 flat and couldn't pass up the chance. I still love the gun and am looking at upgrading it but after beinfg around a lot of other guns its apparent that there are many guns that i shoot just as well that can be had for much less than what P30s run for. still I gravitate to the gun even with the sub par trigger, paddle mag release and slide mounted de-cocker, the gun flat out shoots. Its my bed side, truck gun and carry gun while my CZ P10c is off getting work done. My complaint about carry is there are very few AIWB holster for it but I dont mind the phylster floodlight holster for the Modlight PL350 i run on my handguns. Since i run the light and it wont add to the length i plan on trying the Parker mountain machine compensator. Ive heard really good things about the gray guns short reset trigger kits and they make a metal trigger to eliminate that trigger flex. I'm glad to see H&K caught up with the times and are now offering 17 round P30/VP9 mags. Hk parts also makes a magwell and figured id try that out as well seeing how I already conceal a gun thats laughably large. great review and many valid points made just wish John Wick didnt sky rocket the prices on all P30s because i would strongly consider picking up a P30L if they were in the $600-700 range.

  • @1969plato
    @1969plato 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I carry a P30S and also have a P30LS, quirky guns but nothing you can't get used to with training. I love them both.

  • @COBHC8890
    @COBHC8890 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    H&K USP, and CZ family of pistols are still the best of the best imo. My local pawn shop has had a H&K P30 in OD Green, sitting on the shelf for awhile! Ive been eyeballing it since Dec 2017, but I ended up picking up a pristine Walther P99 instead!

  • @GroovesAndLands
    @GroovesAndLands 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Nitrocarburizing/Tenifer/Melonite/SBN is NOT a coating! It is a heat treatment process that diffuses nitrogen INTO the surface of the steel, making iron atoms unavailable to be oxidized - meaning no rust. The black color is an artifact of the process. Additionally, the outer skin (a couple .001s of an inch deep) is exceedingly hard, making it highly scratch resistant.
    NOT a coating. Much better!

    • @seanvine39
      @seanvine39 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      GroovesAndLands I've left this comment on numerous threads on his channel. He must not read anything.

  • @Ohio_Motonaut
    @Ohio_Motonaut 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The P30 can now be had under $600 new. That may change some folks' opinions. I think I want a P30L but I'd like to shoot one first.

    • @stevenseagal4664
      @stevenseagal4664 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i pad 999.00 for my p30 this week

    • @MrSmith-dt2pi
      @MrSmith-dt2pi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steven Seagal, you were ripped off. Bought my P30 for $550 4 months ago.

  • @craigwhyte4157
    @craigwhyte4157 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The light LEM trigger is amazing in these guns. No decocker shenanigans either.

    • @petewick8627
      @petewick8627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this an aftermarket trigger?

    • @Hialeah1925
      @Hialeah1925 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petewick8627 nope. Factory.. called the V1

  • @obliviontactical7974
    @obliviontactical7974 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the way that gun feels in hand

  • @BASTERDSxEYExVIEW
    @BASTERDSxEYExVIEW 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    The P30 is the gun from John Wick.

    • @enahs5000
      @enahs5000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jeff H the first movie yes, a p30L

    • @grenmoyo3968
      @grenmoyo3968 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah in chapter two it's the Glock 34. P30 is the one in chapter 1. Both are awesome

    • @robcranston2573
      @robcranston2573 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      高恩太 yep. He has great taste in guns in both movies.

    • @johnwickstuckinthematrix8121
      @johnwickstuckinthematrix8121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Correct now I carry 2 suppressed akimbo style

    • @majormassenspektrometer
      @majormassenspektrometer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who cares. Could be the gun of Jesus and I still wouldn't buy it.

  • @JustDefense
    @JustDefense ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good location for a decocker. It’s a purely administrative act you perform usually before reholstering, so since you’re going to break grip anyway and are going to thumb the hammer as you reholster it’s a great place for it. It’s out of the way in a gunfight and perfectly located for a hammer drop.

  • @HVG67
    @HVG67 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still love my P30L. Have it over 9 years and it never ever failed once except 1 stove pipe on the first box I ever fed it. It shoots everything I feed it. Field strip is so easy, ergonomics with the changeable sides/backstrap. And btw I did change them..

  • @vvogt4252
    @vvogt4252 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another Great review Brother.

  • @rElliot09
    @rElliot09 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review. Love my HK p30 and P30SK...though I wish my P30 were a V1 vice the V3. I am a big fan of the LEM, spefically, light LEM. All my HK's but the P30 are light LEM. Still love the USP more than any but I've never shot or owned a P7.

  • @motogunner750
    @motogunner750 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for doing more HK products!

  • @Darth-Nihilus1
    @Darth-Nihilus1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my HK P30 and my HK45. The changeable back straps make it fit my hand like a dream

  • @4deuce31
    @4deuce31 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm always on the lookout for a P30. Sweet machines.

  • @zaheerkader7426
    @zaheerkader7426 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The person who sold the P30 to me was the late great Todd G at pistol-training and his 100000 round torture test proved the platform as one of the greatest pistols ever made. I don't think anyone else has come close to his testing of the P30

  • @JosephAnthonyJosefius
    @JosephAnthonyJosefius 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The trigger isn't all polymer, it has a steel reinforced insert I believe. I have two P30sk pistols in my rotation, D/S and the LEM, not to mention my USP compact and full size P30. I hope I'm not an H&K fanboy.

    • @darrenbishop4327
      @darrenbishop4327 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joseph Anthony Nahhhh! Your good.

    • @headkracker6366
      @headkracker6366 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing wrong with being an HK Fanboy... I only have 6 HK’s...!!!

    • @gordongreninger6109
      @gordongreninger6109 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fanboy? No. Empty wallet? Yes.

    • @rlsjunior797
      @rlsjunior797 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn I’ve got 2 and consider myself a fanboy. They’re my 2 favorite polymer guns. USP 45 compact and a VP9.

    • @HVG67
      @HVG67 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My P30L has no insert on the trigger. 100% plastic polymer whatever..

  • @billbee235
    @billbee235 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m carrying the HK P30SK and absolutely love it. It takes getting used to the DA/SA trigger but I’m actually pretty proficient with it. Ergonomics are excellent on P30 pistols

  • @irafowlerjr.7492
    @irafowlerjr.7492 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video and info, thanks

  • @StuartKReilly
    @StuartKReilly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The P30 unfortunately won't be as cool to the gun buyers as the USP or Mark 23 until Solid Snake has used one. HK45 man here!

    • @SwyvCrux
      @SwyvCrux 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      metal gear my favorite series but John Wicks p30l?

  • @georgevickers6752
    @georgevickers6752 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Helpful review!

  • @odyssey6684
    @odyssey6684 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm left handed and use my left middle finger for the magazine release. As this is the first pistol I've owned, I've gotten used to the decocker. I use my left thumb. As for the slide not locking back, I had that happen due to the placement of my left thumb being too high and holding down the slide release on the last round. A small grip change fixed the issue. I bought the gun due to the grip and have switched to the largest side and back straps as I have a large palm.

  • @philiph.5113
    @philiph.5113 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    More videos on the corvette please

  • @chzzyg2698
    @chzzyg2698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review Nutn. I'm currently looking for something that may not exist. A double action, side mounted safety, a de-cocker anywhere but attached to the safety, a barrel longer than 4.5", and a squared off trigger guard. So far I've landed on the P30L, the Arex T1, and maybe a Taurus PT92 before they added the de-cocker feature. I think the only thing I don't like about this one is the flappy thingy mag release but I might be able to get past it. 😅 Another P250 in my collection would also be a welcome addition.

  • @robertchavarry955
    @robertchavarry955 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my P30 Light LEM...and the paddle release.

  • @aarondiaz1433
    @aarondiaz1433 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally !!!!
    Just got one for $649 in 40 cal
    Love it !

  • @geoffreym59
    @geoffreym59 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that Nutn puts TD on blast about his past pokemon obssession. LOL!

  • @bsb8606
    @bsb8606 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I freakin LOVE this pistol. 9,000 rds through mine and still running

  • @cliffleath
    @cliffleath 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the P30, and USP plus 2 CZ 75’s. I don’t have problems with the reset. Great gun. Love these guns. Opinions, everyone has them. HK’s have a great reputation in the world and they have been making firearms for many year.

  • @obliviontactical7974
    @obliviontactical7974 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was between a VP9 and a PPQ. I was favoring the VP9 until I watched a Yankee Marshal review on it and he said the loaded chamber indicator reminded him of a “Horney Dog”.That’s killed it instantly. Love my PPQ.

  • @madviola183
    @madviola183 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my P30. Is it "the best gun ever"? No. Have I shot it enough to get used to it? Yeah. The trigger is not my favorite, but I deal with it. I've had mine since 2011 and I've had no failures, obviously YMMV. My first two pistols were a USP and the P30, so adapting to the lever mag release wasn't a big deal to me. Honestly, I kinda wish I had that on my Glock some days, as my hands are big enough that I can actuate the release with my thumb. Mine does have the safety switch, which I do use, and I find the hammer drop lever to not be too obtrusive (which probably means I've gotten used to it). The accuracy is on par what you saw in the video. This is just my experience, YMMV.
    Thank you Nut'n for doing this video.

  • @Exmachinagamma
    @Exmachinagamma 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the P30l and the HK45T both pistols have night sights and ambisaftey. Love these guns

  • @nrbrown5985
    @nrbrown5985 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I dig HK hammer fired guns. I’ll buy one eventually,

    • @grenmoyo3968
      @grenmoyo3968 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      nakinate me too, just can't justify the higher price.

    • @jackwatts9030
      @jackwatts9030 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love my USP .45

    • @thekeystonekid8687
      @thekeystonekid8687 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HK is making some models in the US now (P30, HK45) so they're a lot more affordable, $550-$650. I prefer the LEM vs the DA/SA though.

    • @07BlackSpecV
      @07BlackSpecV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a slippery slope. You'll buy one and then a couple months later you'll have 5 and be looking for another one.

    • @MrHav1k
      @MrHav1k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@07BlackSpecV You are so right. Got the HK45, now a P30SK is next 😂

  • @07BlackSpecV
    @07BlackSpecV 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, my wife and I are HK fanboys but don't have a P30 full size in the collection yet. We love our P30sk though. Thank you for the content.

  • @shevchenko7cfc941
    @shevchenko7cfc941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I picked up an hk p30 v3 recently, I LOVE everything except the trigger reset, it's wildly long, but grey guns has a short reset kit i'll be installing this week

  • @caddilacjim
    @caddilacjim 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do like the P30 a lot more than the vp9,if I were to get a P30 it would be the L version.I don't like the the mag release on either though I would just get used to it.Great video Nutn.

  • @dancarlson4779
    @dancarlson4779 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I carry a P30L IWB and I adore it. My small hands can access everything easily and the pistol is accurate af. The trigger is a tad difficult but I carried a Makarov before this so I’m used to DA/SA

  • @online_now6834
    @online_now6834 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Holy shit I got notified !

  • @Archivedcontent
    @Archivedcontent 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the final verdict was that all of you liked it for the most part, but would be unwilling to buy a new one today for $1,000 when you could easily get a Canik TP9SF or a CZ P-07/P-09 or a Walther PPQ.
    I totally agree with that assessment. It's good to see older pistols still out there getting it done. My main plinker/truck gun for years was a Ruger P95DC and I love hammer fired da/sa pistols. I still have it, but now I favor my CZ P-09 for use as my do it all handgun.

  • @prepperpov5852
    @prepperpov5852 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @headkracker6366
    @headkracker6366 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    P30SK, my EDC... best DA/SA Compact on the scene!

  • @Hannibal_Grim
    @Hannibal_Grim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shot this the other day at the range and I love it :D

  • @ftbtd
    @ftbtd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you buy a new P30 there are different grip plates for bigger and smaller hands included. Also you can buy it in 6 different trigger variations and also get variations with a safety catch that is used for hammer release.