Britain's Gay Footballers (pt3/4)

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  • There are currently around 5,000 professional footballers in Britain, but incredibly not one of them has come out publicly as gay. Amal Fashanu, niece of Justin Fashanu, the only ever openly gay British professional, goes on a mission to discover why no gay player has followed in her uncle's boots in over twenty years. Witnessing the typical chants from opposing fans on the terraces at Brighton, Amal can immediately see why gay players will not put their heads above the parapet. But one of Britain's most famous gay football fans, Matt Lucas, tells her that the problem extends beyond the fans.
    Max Clifford, who reveals he has helped several Premiership stars keep their homosexuality secret in order to preserve their careers, goes further by insisting that the mentality of most people in and around the game remains in the Dark Ages. When Amal finally negotiates some access to straight premiership stars - from the Millwall dressing room - she learns that attitudes amongst many footballers may not be as bad as feared.
    The Premiership's most controversial and outspoken player, Joey Barton, who like Amal has a gay uncle, expresses 'pity' for his fellow professionals who lack the courage to speak out on the subject, but blames the game's homophobia on some of the 'archaic figures' who run the game. Amal also gains access to a professional game official prepared to come forward and meet her to discuss life as a gay man inside the game, but the politics of the game prevent him.
    Amidst these fascinating revelations about football's last taboo, Amal becomes embroiled in a deeply personal journey. For the first time she is exposed to the full truth about her family's darkest secrets.
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ความคิดเห็น • 67

  • @n83able
    @n83able 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    That poor girl really misses her uncle. Made me cry to see her beside herself with grief.

    • @OGboxing...
      @OGboxing... 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      She barely knew him.

    • @stanbily9416
      @stanbily9416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@OGboxing... And?

  • @thosdickson
    @thosdickson 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Fascinating. What you are doing is SO important. As a gay man closeted for much of my early life, this conversation MUST be had in families, schools, sports and all the rest of it.
    Thanks for getting it started !!

  • @jaimeeclair8999
    @jaimeeclair8999 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It would be better to be an only child, than to have a brother like John. What an egoistic man this John is, still bitter against his brother even after the latter's death. Poor Amal, your uncle would be very proud of you.

  • @IndianaJoel93
    @IndianaJoel93 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When John says "no more tears" a tear runs down his cheek :(

  • @dawnwisteria
    @dawnwisteria 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    John should carry some responsibility for his brother’s isolation and pain. Homophobia is an ugly, ugly thing.

  • @superstubes
    @superstubes 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    God Bless you Justin.

  • @beavertown2006
    @beavertown2006 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your family's reputation was enough reason to disown a family member?

    • @ikeze
      @ikeze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wasn't that easy way back then, I remember this story vividly as it played out. Heart wrenching seeing both of them like that. The family need closure, will take more time.

  • @ballyhalle
    @ballyhalle 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    She is so so pretty

  • @AleemKhan-iu4hh
    @AleemKhan-iu4hh 12 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really don't like John Fshanu - he's nasty.
    Amal is incredible however.

  • @ademola5803
    @ademola5803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't think Justin had an agent or a good agent to advise him.

  • @jamesduffield4670
    @jamesduffield4670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was having a meal in a Nottingham restaurant and Justin walked in and looked at me wearing a Everton top and nearly tripped over

    • @Evemeister12
      @Evemeister12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He probably wanted to tear your rectum in half.

  • @ShimmeringDuck
    @ShimmeringDuck 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Justin said he made up particular stories about men he slept with so he could cash in on the papers obsession with him.

  • @RCSVirginia
    @RCSVirginia 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    US soccer (football) player Robbie Rogers announced today, 15 February 2013, that he is gay. Rogers has played for the US National Team, Leed United in Britain and Heerenveen in the Netherlands. Before him, soccer players David Testo and Anton Hysen had, also, come out as gay.

  • @TheInstitution
    @TheInstitution 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You were invited where? Millwall? You expect them to talk? 😆

    • @Dual971
      @Dual971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought of that

  • @fizz113
    @fizz113 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a bit confused with what John is saying. Is he claiming that Justin came out as gay by admitting to sexual encounters with MPs?

    • @theflyingfox8204
      @theflyingfox8204 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, it's rather confusing.

    • @aerialkate
      @aerialkate 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a documentary on Justin Fashanu, you might have watched it by now - it's very good and it's still up on 'youtube' at the moment.

    • @fizz113
      @fizz113 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +aerialkate what is it called?

    • @83cosdino
      @83cosdino 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Justin Fashanu the Fallen Hero.

  • @danielmcdermott138
    @danielmcdermott138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm... Sleep well John....

  • @jamieswiftdrake9530
    @jamieswiftdrake9530 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    John comes across as just a tad sinister........

  • @adamsmith6594
    @adamsmith6594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1 in 10? No. The stats are 1 in 5 officially though the data suggests 1 in 3.

  • @ShimmeringDuck
    @ShimmeringDuck 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:50 "old school and successful" managers. Is he hinting a Fergie here? ;)

    • @stephenreeds3672
      @stephenreeds3672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he might.

    • @sacred1827
      @sacred1827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stephenreeds3672 Brian Clough, who directly was not accepting of Justin when the rumours first came out. There's a famous Clough line he said to Justin which later on Clough admitted he regretted.

  • @78bcat
    @78bcat 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah, I struggle to pass too harsh judgment on him. He responded poorly in a very different time and he has to live with that. We all like to think we'd stand up to the world and do the right thing, but history shows that type of character to be quite rare. However, he could become an advocate for change today.

    • @ikeze
      @ikeze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. You put better than I ever could.

  • @bubs0000
    @bubs0000 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    "how hard do you think it's going to be for me to find one?" pssh.

  • @klopptimism1490
    @klopptimism1490 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Whether John was/is a homophobe is only part of the story. I understand he behaved in a regrettable manner,but he has suffered enough. He knows he probably contributed to his brother's suicide. He has to carry that knowledge with him every day. He is grieving- the man had to bury his big brother. He deserves some tolerance and compassion. We all make mistakes but how many of us have paid a higher price for his mistake than John? Tolerance and trying to understand homophobia is the way forward. I think Justin would be proud of his niece.

    • @hannahdyson5603
      @hannahdyson5603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I somehow don't think he cares . He comes across as being very cold and indifferent .
      The fact that he treated his brother the way he did speaks volumes about it .

    • @ikeze
      @ikeze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hannah, it's a coping mechanism. Trying to be strong, also realising he let his brother down.

  • @bhekigasela5177
    @bhekigasela5177 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This girl is in real pain, sorry sister

  • @michaelb27mb
    @michaelb27mb 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    he says about scandal in the papers yet when justin was interviewed live he said it was all lies so does that not mean it was the media the papers etc making it up creating a stereotypical gay man i mean the papers in the 90's like im just 29 meself but inbetween their words they were sayin behead them burn them on the streets watch your children etc the papers way of selling papers to a people they thought mostly felt like that under educated and fearful of unknown ways of living??

  • @lovemunchkin
    @lovemunchkin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big hugs

  • @Dual971
    @Dual971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    His ultimate mistake was sleeping with a minor. I don't believe he would have gotten away with it. Just the fact a minor was involved. His brother could have supported him when he came out before hand.

  • @michaelb27mb
    @michaelb27mb 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah but what the papers did with that information compared to hetrosexual counterparts is it really in anyway different they always say footballers so energised and fit and all that that they shag so much and get a lot of attention like if the papers were to publicise information about another out of the closet man who just happens to be gay would they go about it in the same way dehumanising?? or just promiscuity in itself not wanted to hear like are hetrosexual counterparts treated as such??

  • @73tydy
    @73tydy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Some of the more senior members of the squad were up for it"🤣😂🤣😂I bet they was😅

  • @dr.hayanassar
    @dr.hayanassar 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would he hint a Ferguson? :)

  • @Bright2666
    @Bright2666 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @supahdupahguy81 what sou just said shows how stupid one can get. What has one's sexuallity got to do with being a ref. He may not be allowed to declare which team he supports, but talking about being gay is something he can do if he wants to.

  • @lifestyleschannel8508
    @lifestyleschannel8508 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve never been comfortable with the word ‘homophobia’ or even ‘xenophobia’ as I am (what I can only describe as a real life phobic) I suffer from Arachnophobia which is not a dislike or prejudice it is a real debilitating acute fear/phobia which is medically incurable. I personally feel that whatever anyone’s nationality, religious beliefs, sexuality are no one else’s business. I accept I speak as a straight man and am probably regarded as a dinosaur and I have mixed feelings towards John, yes I agree no one gives two hoots about whether someone is gay or straight but equally I fully understand that the world twenty or thirty years ago isn’t what it is today. Homosexuality has and or is stigmatised for one simple reason that up until around 50 years ago it was illegal and it takes time for that stigma to be erased. I believe homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality and has been around since the dawn of civilisation it’s the stigma that has trapped and pigeonholed into something that it isn’t. God Bless and Rest In Peace Justin Fashanu

  • @JordanjamesX
    @JordanjamesX 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amal is very brave but I kind of wish she discussed the issue of RACE and how it conflates with sexual orientation and culture. Why doesn't Amal discuss the fact it probably was harder for her uncle Justin to come out as a black gay man than a white gay man? It doesn't make sense that Amal does not discuss homophobia in the black community.

    • @kdlofty
      @kdlofty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because it's not a documentary about race.

  • @seelondon100
    @seelondon100 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:59 I understand John's point. He clearly loved his brother.

  • @MountRushCollymore
    @MountRushCollymore 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Silly cow. 'How hard do you think it's going to be for me to find one', like it's all a game and they owe it to her. If they don't want people to know, so be it.

    • @aerialkate
      @aerialkate 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      She's not a "silly cow". She obviously has an emotional connection to the subject matter which has informed her reaction. She might have been a bit naive, that doesn't make her a "silly cow".

    • @MountRushCollymore
      @MountRushCollymore 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      aerialkate She's an idiot. It's all about her.

    • @davidantony2734
      @davidantony2734 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +aerialkate well said. I appreciate her empathy.

    • @MountRushCollymore
      @MountRushCollymore 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Panatella She isn't empathising, they're like a big fish to her.

    • @MountRushCollymore
      @MountRushCollymore 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aye likewise

  • @gtrman9706
    @gtrman9706 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Justin was brave but stupid to come out. He had nothing to gain, only to lose.

  • @Hygoon1987
    @Hygoon1987 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very poweful scene there,i feel sorry for john his selfish brother fucked up his.life

  • @westha1233
    @westha1233 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it would be very easy to diss john fashanu about how he reacted to he's brothers coming out and tragic death, but you must remember we are all a product of our upbringing. john was just trying to survive amongst he's peers. john was wrong but justin is he's blood, he's brother and he doesn't need anyone to prick he's conscience over this, he knows.

  • @nerosubiancoblog
    @nerosubiancoblog 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dalle Olimpiadi del 1968 ad oggi: cos'è cambiato per i partecipanti omosessuali?
    Venite a dare un'occhiata al nostro Blog! ;)

  • @desertflwrs
    @desertflwrs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Justin does strike me as selfish and put his family in a crazy situation