Honestly I don’t know what to feel about the DC at this point. My gut feeling is that having a more overarching plan can’t hurt. I’m ok if it looks nothing like the MCU and they just keep doing separate movies that aren’t connected like The Batman, Joker, and maybe Blue Beetle. James Gunn has proven he can handle lesser known characters so it will be interesting to see what he does now that he’s in charge of Batman, Superman, etc.
Snyderverse was bringing in big bucks before WB shit the bed. It's all been downhill after that. But after 4 reboots in 10 years, it's kinda hard to get invested. And while Gunn does generally have good results, if he screws up or leaves prematurely as everyone else has kinda makes this dangerous. Plus if more actors and directors are burned, who's gonna wanna work for WB?
James is good at guardian of the Galaxy movies ..... Suicide squad 1 garage, suicide squad 2 was meh so I can't really say what to feel for future DC movies created by James Gunn.
I'm in the middle about him leading DC as well. I thought the second suicide squad was okay, but I also didn't know much about those characters outside of Harley, Waller & Peacemaker before I saw it.
*Why oh why does it hurt so much to be a DC fan?* 🤦🏿♂️ If DC/WB plan on rebooting everything then that makes the movies they've already greenlit pointless, because they'll be going nowhere. This is why I can't get behind a reboot. For one, James Gunn's mid-tier work with DC hasn't given me much faith that he can make that entire cinematic universe a success. And two, a reboot would only make the invested fans tune out because there was no payoff to what was already there.
He's only worked with characters that aren't well known, and when he had access to characters like Aquaman, he made fish jokes. Peacemaker acted nothing like his comic counterpart personality wise, and ending the season doing a farting contest with Vigilante. My confidence isn't very high on Gunn right now...I hope he can turn that around with his new position.
Gunn didn't confirm nor denied anything. He was better off not tweeting anything but just coming out with their plan when he and Safran are done. I wish WB just let Snyder finish his story instead of all the interference that ended up making it incoherent and having to release Director Cuts. Then continued on a different way if they wanted to. I'm still a DC fan, but they have to get this story straight.
Problem is, Man of Steel was never meant to kickstart a universe. It was just supposed to be a three and done, down to earth, Dark Knight style trilogy. Avengers game out, blew past a billion, and DC wanted Avengers NOW. Man of Steel underperforms, so they announce Batman for the sequel (the old trope of DC being Batman and Friends). Since then every film has been reactionary to Marvel and or reactionary to past failures. This may be the best course of action.
Man of Steel did not underperform and I’m tired of people saying that. It’s BS lies like that from the fans that made WB reactionary and put stupid expectations on things that lead to stupid decisions making dc a mess.
Man of Steel definitely did better than Shazam, Black Adam, Birds of Prey, The Suicide Squad & WW84 box office wise. Despite that, we've gone almost 10 years without a solo Superman film. No excuse for that.
Trying to keep up with the rumor mill is exhausting so I'm ignoring all rumors and will just wait for Gunn and Safran's gameplan from there I'll decide if I'm interested and in the meantime I'm enjoying true indie creations that are running absolute laps around anything DC and Marvel comics have been producing lately.
I’m sure Warner Bros. has had conversations with James gun in regards to what they wanna see and I’m also confident that he and his partner are going to have a plan in place moving forward. Also, Gunn has come out and said that Margaret Robby is his Harley Quinn so I’m willing to bet he might feel the same way about Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. These are rumors. Leaks. James Gunn on Twitter said, nobody knows anything about the current plans. Him and John Cena both confirmed that Season 2 of Peacemaker is happening. James also tweeted out he has further plans for Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn. If they keep all these actors I doubt they're gonna scratch everybody else. Everybody was getting mad because Henry Cavill hasn't signed any movie contract yet, but as I previously mentioned, they don't even know what movies they'll make, so obviously they don't have a contract yet. I say let's just wait until the plan is officially revealed, before making a big fuss about it.
I swear DC actively hates the fans. I actually feel bad for both Gunn and Safran. I personally hated Snyder’s vision and they could’ve changed paths or directions after Man of Steel. But they didn’t and WB screwed the universe sideways.
Im all for the reboot. Superman's parent's were wrong and screwed up his head. Batman never got a solo movie, we got him at the end of his career. Stupid. Wonder Woman was the only one with an accent and looked like she never worked out. All the other Amazons had muscle, that was weird. Even the lady that played her mom and is in real life a decade older had a noticeable transformation. Aquaman was a surfer bro that didnt surf, that was weird. The flash doesnt know how to run, weird. So yeah give me something different. Not a big James Gunn guy but I imagine he knows better than to give every character his own personal take unlike someone else.
Everything I go back and watch the animated stuff and think why can't you do this but live action. If the main aim is for the fans they could have many characters show up with out an origin story right off cause we know them already. Too many great characters to get to to keep starting over so better get it right
This will be make or break for the dceu The audience is out there look at top gun. Like it or not it's the only movie that came out this year that wasn't woke and just told a good story with likeable characters. There's an audience out there dying for something good again
I never bought Gadot as Wonder Woman. Both personality wise and apperence wise. Plus she is not a good actress. Recast her with a brand new comics accurate actress for the new DCU. Same for Aquaman and Flash. And bring over Battinson (ONLY Battinson, not any of his side characters especially Black Gordon and Catwoman) to the new DCU.
@@TheKoolSection James gun has always been a goof can't say this was far approaching. But it is what it is I'll continue not watching anything from DC at the cinemas just like i stopped with Marvel
And instead of a dark and epic story with a confrontation between Superman and Darkseid and a fight between Batman and Deathstroke with an R rating (as in the 2010s animated films), together with already ready actors, we will get another mediocre clown show, or a glossy dish for children from the channel The CW. #HenryCavillTheRealSuperman #GalGadotTrueWonderWoman #RestoreTheSnyderVerse #MakeTheBatfleckMovie #MakeZSJL2 #ManOfSteel #ReleasetheAyerCut
Honestly i will never watch another DCU movie again,they need fire his ass,he redoing all the DC movies so must all the actors who played the iconic superheros will not be making a return,but at least keep those actors who actually love potraying the superheros and just remake the films,now i would replace ben Affleck as batman and bring in Keanu reeves as the batman
I think what they're doing is a shipwreck they're gonna destroy everything and like you said not everybody's gonna be happy about it it's sad I mean to see the actors that we liked will portray these characters one of brothers is destroying DC and the fans are not gonna love it maybe someone do it but the reboot everything and get different actors and promise that Wednesday yeah I will bring you back It don't make sense it just don't make sense it's gonna be sad to see the DC universe totally messed up and nobody will want to go see any movie of any of the favorite heroes
I completely agree with you on the post crisis thing. I've pretty much lost all interest in any new comics, Black Adam had me excited for the future, but now I'm not even interested in seeing what they're going to do next because I have a sneaky suspicion that James Gunn is going to go, "the diversity route", rather than the, "comic book character accurate" route. I'm not super thrilled about bisexual Peacemaker or gay Vigilante. It's a funny show, but I think they're going to focus on the "budding relationship" or whatever between those two. We're probably going to be seeing a lot of ethnicity swapping, gender bending for sure, and definitely some sexual orientation changes to pre existing characters as seen in Peacemaker 🙄 just make good movies ffs. Use the animated universe as a blueprint ffs. But leave out the New52 influence on Superman, gotta be Post Crisis, let Batman be three Robins in, skip the current Tim Drake ffs.....go with Damien. These characters don't always need an origin story. Some things can be done in flashbacks, like Clark's childhood, Lois and Clark's relationship, secret identity, etc.... I think they fucked up from the beginning, especially on making them all so fucking old.
MoS was 10 years ago, it sucked, and it failed. SnyderVerse should have been scrapped IMMEDIATELY. True fans knew it, a small amount of NORMIES cried and kept it going
All James gotta do is make good movies.if he does that, the audiences will come.
Honestly I don’t know what to feel about the DC at this point. My gut feeling is that having a more overarching plan can’t hurt. I’m ok if it looks nothing like the MCU and they just keep doing separate movies that aren’t connected like The Batman, Joker, and maybe Blue Beetle. James Gunn has proven he can handle lesser known characters so it will be interesting to see what he does now that he’s in charge of Batman, Superman, etc.
Snyderverse was bringing in big bucks before WB shit the bed. It's all been downhill after that. But after 4 reboots in 10 years, it's kinda hard to get invested. And while Gunn does generally have good results, if he screws up or leaves prematurely as everyone else has kinda makes this dangerous. Plus if more actors and directors are burned, who's gonna wanna work for WB?
James is good at guardian of the Galaxy movies ..... Suicide squad 1 garage, suicide squad 2 was meh so I can't really say what to feel for future DC movies created by James Gunn.
I'm in the middle about him leading DC as well. I thought the second suicide squad was okay, but I also didn't know much about those characters outside of Harley, Waller & Peacemaker before I saw it.
*Why oh why does it hurt so much to be a DC fan?* 🤦🏿♂️ If DC/WB plan on rebooting everything then that makes the movies they've already greenlit pointless, because they'll be going nowhere. This is why I can't get behind a reboot. For one, James Gunn's mid-tier work with DC hasn't given me much faith that he can make that entire cinematic universe a success. And two, a reboot would only make the invested fans tune out because there was no payoff to what was already there.
He's only worked with characters that aren't well known, and when he had access to characters like Aquaman, he made fish jokes. Peacemaker acted nothing like his comic counterpart personality wise, and ending the season doing a farting contest with Vigilante. My confidence isn't very high on Gunn right now...I hope he can turn that around with his new position.
Gunn didn't confirm nor denied anything. He was better off not tweeting anything but just coming out with their plan when he and Safran are done. I wish WB just let Snyder finish his story instead of all the interference that ended up making it incoherent and having to release Director Cuts. Then continued on a different way if they wanted to. I'm still a DC fan, but they have to get this story straight.
Finally! Don't forget Todd Phillips' Joker and Matt Reeves' The Batman!
I didn't bring those up because they're not part of the primary DCU.
reboot is the way to go PLEASE!!!
Problem is, Man of Steel was never meant to kickstart a universe. It was just supposed to be a three and done, down to earth, Dark Knight style trilogy.
Avengers game out, blew past a billion, and DC wanted Avengers NOW.
Man of Steel underperforms, so they announce Batman for the sequel (the old trope of DC being Batman and Friends).
Since then every film has been reactionary to Marvel and or reactionary to past failures.
This may be the best course of action.
Smh the damage is done
@@TheKoolSection I agree, but they can’t keep on this road either.
Man of Steel did not underperform and I’m tired of people saying that. It’s BS lies like that from the fans that made WB reactionary and put stupid expectations on things that lead to stupid decisions making dc a mess.
Man of Steel definitely did better than Shazam, Black Adam, Birds of Prey, The Suicide Squad & WW84 box office wise. Despite that, we've gone almost 10 years without a solo Superman film. No excuse for that.
All respect, and I mean every tiny bit of respect I had for James Gunn is gone
DC movies turning into DC comics, hitting reset every 5 seconds
I'm good with this decision.. a clean slate and younger new actors could be what DC needed
If it was me I would be aiming for an injustice event that pulls all the characters into it including green lantern.
Trying to keep up with the rumor mill is exhausting so I'm ignoring all rumors and will just wait for Gunn and Safran's gameplan from there I'll decide if I'm interested and in the meantime I'm enjoying true indie creations that are running absolute laps around anything DC and Marvel comics have been producing lately.
I just hope the part about Man or Steel 2 being cancelled is true. Everything else I can pretty much live without(except Blue Beetle. I need that).
I’m sure Warner Bros. has had conversations with James gun in regards to what they wanna see and I’m also confident that he and his partner are going to have a plan in place moving forward. Also, Gunn has come out and said that Margaret Robby is his Harley Quinn so I’m willing to bet he might feel the same way about Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman
Only time will tell now
where im gonna be ? supporting henry cavill in whatever he will be playing and trying to tell people how evil wb and dc are
I'm just hoping they keep Henry Cavill as Superman; after all he's the crown jewel of the DCU. Btw, dope Nightwing hat!💯
I appreciate it bro
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. These are rumors. Leaks. James Gunn on Twitter said, nobody knows anything about the current plans. Him and John Cena both confirmed that Season 2 of Peacemaker is happening. James also tweeted out he has further plans for Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn. If they keep all these actors I doubt they're gonna scratch everybody else.
Everybody was getting mad because Henry Cavill hasn't signed any movie contract yet, but as I previously mentioned, they don't even know what movies they'll make, so obviously they don't have a contract yet. I say let's just wait until the plan is officially revealed, before making a big fuss about it.
I feel ur pain bro, beIN a DC fan is like living at the edge of the cliff, but am gonna wait till we hear from the bosses of the studios
DCEU was buns. The Shake Up was needed.
I swear DC actively hates the fans. I actually feel bad for both Gunn and Safran. I personally hated Snyder’s vision and they could’ve changed paths or directions after Man of Steel. But they didn’t and WB screwed the universe sideways.
Man of Steel 2 hadn't been cancelled. It's getting a reboot with Brie Larson as Brainiac in the Kandor story #Facts
Wtf 😆
@TheKoolSection Yeah man, true story. Jason Momoa is in talks to be Lobo and Larson is listed as favour to play Brainiac #Facts
Im all for the reboot. Superman's parent's were wrong and screwed up his head. Batman never got a solo movie, we got him at the end of his career. Stupid. Wonder Woman was the only one with an accent and looked like she never worked out. All the other Amazons had muscle, that was weird. Even the lady that played her mom and is in real life a decade older had a noticeable transformation. Aquaman was a surfer bro that didnt surf, that was weird. The flash doesnt know how to run, weird. So yeah give me something different. Not a big James Gunn guy but I imagine he knows better than to give every character his own personal take unlike someone else.
I would love to see Batman Beyond on the big screen.
Everything I go back and watch the animated stuff and think why can't you do this but live action. If the main aim is for the fans they could have many characters show up with out an origin story right off cause we know them already. Too many great characters to get to to keep starting over so better get it right
This will be make or break for the dceu
The audience is out there look at top gun. Like it or not it's the only movie that came out this year that wasn't woke and just told a good story with likeable characters. There's an audience out there dying for something good again
I never bought Gadot as Wonder Woman. Both personality wise and apperence wise. Plus she is not a good actress. Recast her with a brand new comics accurate actress for the new DCU. Same for Aquaman and Flash. And bring over Battinson (ONLY Battinson, not any of his side characters especially Black Gordon and Catwoman) to the new DCU.
Meh. It's not that serious. Reboot everything and keep it moving
If these films don't make money again you'll see how serious it is.
@@Fartedbooty If the reboot does well great. If not they will have to wait and reboot again.
It's too late to reboot DC already has too many reboots and that's gonna get more people less interested
That's how I kinda feel but It's whatever at this point. I'm not going to lose sleep over what they create/destroy.
@@TheKoolSection James gun has always been a goof can't say this was far approaching. But it is what it is I'll continue not watching anything from DC at the cinemas just like i stopped with Marvel
And instead of a dark and epic story with a confrontation between Superman and Darkseid and a fight between Batman and Deathstroke with an R rating (as in the 2010s animated films), together with already ready actors, we will get another mediocre clown show, or a glossy dish for children from the channel The CW.
#HenryCavillTheRealSuperman
#GalGadotTrueWonderWoman
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#MakeTheBatfleckMovie
#MakeZSJL2
#ManOfSteel
#ReleasetheAyerCut
Honestly i will never watch another DCU movie again,they need fire his ass,he redoing all the DC movies so must all the actors who played the iconic superheros will not be making a return,but at least keep those actors who actually love potraying the superheros and just remake the films,now i would replace ben Affleck as batman and bring in Keanu reeves as the batman
I think what they're doing is a shipwreck they're gonna destroy everything and like you said not everybody's gonna be happy about it it's sad I mean to see the actors that we liked will portray these characters one of brothers is destroying DC and the fans are not gonna love it maybe someone do it but the reboot everything and get different actors and promise that Wednesday yeah I will bring you back It don't make sense it just don't make sense it's gonna be sad to see the DC universe totally messed up and nobody will want to go see any movie of any of the favorite heroes
I completely agree with you on the post crisis thing. I've pretty much lost all interest in any new comics, Black Adam had me excited for the future, but now I'm not even interested in seeing what they're going to do next because I have a sneaky suspicion that James Gunn is going to go, "the diversity route", rather than the, "comic book character accurate" route. I'm not super thrilled about bisexual Peacemaker or gay Vigilante. It's a funny show, but I think they're going to focus on the "budding relationship" or whatever between those two. We're probably going to be seeing a lot of ethnicity swapping, gender bending for sure, and definitely some sexual orientation changes to pre existing characters as seen in Peacemaker 🙄 just make good movies ffs. Use the animated universe as a blueprint ffs. But leave out the New52 influence on Superman, gotta be Post Crisis, let Batman be three Robins in, skip the current Tim Drake ffs.....go with Damien. These characters don't always need an origin story. Some things can be done in flashbacks, like Clark's childhood, Lois and Clark's relationship, secret identity, etc.... I think they fucked up from the beginning, especially on making them all so fucking old.
MoS was 10 years ago, it sucked, and it failed. SnyderVerse should have been scrapped IMMEDIATELY. True fans knew it, a small amount of NORMIES cried and kept it going
MoS did not suck and did not fail.
If anything, it feels like the minority hate man of steel now. Do you not see the amount of reception and positivity it gets as of today?