HEMA Fencing That Makes Purists Cringe

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2022
  • All my better touches and some of my opponent highlights that hopefully were recorded well enough to see
    Can't wait to see you all again next year!
    patreon.com/Galachad?...
    Disclaimer: When I say cringe I am referring to my own fencing only, some people have criticized my style for being unhistorical (it isn't anymore)
    Full Rapier footage: • Combatcon 2022 Rapier ...
    Full Saber footage: • Combatcon 2022 Saber M...
    Song is from the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Conducted by Louis Clark
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  • @notanotherswordreviewchann4901
    @notanotherswordreviewchann4901 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Fighting a guy in a wheelchair....cmon...

    • @projectdarkmoon8787
      @projectdarkmoon8787 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      What was he supposed to do? Ask the guy to forfeit?

    • @radioactiveassassin5218
      @radioactiveassassin5218 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@projectdarkmoon8787 Or perhaps LOSE WILLINGLY even? Ridiculous.

    • @danm8004
      @danm8004 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Never heard of Ivar the Boneless?

    • @razgril
      @razgril 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It seems that he... was ready to be rolled over. *puts sunglasses on* Yeeeeeahhh!

    • @dukegunthar
      @dukegunthar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      He gave him honor in fighting as an equal.

  • @xaalcarlsonanimations1539
    @xaalcarlsonanimations1539 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Man took out a woman and a guy in a wheelchair with no remorse.
    This is the hero we need

  • @TurulHEMA
    @TurulHEMA ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Out of all aspects of your fencing, I appreciate your footwork the most.

  • @medinasmadre5391
    @medinasmadre5391 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    While you were wasting your time dating I was studying the art of the blade. Never stood a chance kiddo

  • @noahpopal3058
    @noahpopal3058 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    0:29 probably the best footwork i have seen

  • @fabricio-agrippa-zarate
    @fabricio-agrippa-zarate ปีที่แล้ว +26

    What's going on? I thought I was purist but I can feel no cringe. This is good!

    • @allengordon6929
      @allengordon6929 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am a purist too and I don't cringe. I cheer!

  • @Tavamatazz
    @Tavamatazz ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Nice fencing, dude. Nothing flashy, just solid footwork and defence. I also have those kvetun shin guards, they are a delight.
    My only concern in that back foot. I can see you rolling on your ankle in some of your lunges. That can lead to a broken ankle or torn ACL. It’s a bad habit I have, too; if it’s not something I’ve practiced before a tournament I just do my best without it. It sucks if I lose matches, but it’s better than needing surgery for a snapped tendon.
    Hopefully that didn’t come across as condescending. I think you’re a formidable fencer 🤺

  • @emcash8874
    @emcash8874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I don't get hema purism. the goal is to stick them with the pointy / sharp edge and not get stuck with the pointy / sharp edge. That's what the manuals prescribe and that should be the end goal. haha. Imagine only shooting a gun one handed with your off eye because one manual from the 70 years ago said so. Interpret, adapt, innovate.

  • @jarrarwinks8470
    @jarrarwinks8470 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the few hema fencers who has good footwork, so rare. Also, great stuff!

  • @4thbranch834
    @4thbranch834 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm a martial artist who practiced Greco-Roman for school when I was young and practiced Jujitsu Judo and Muay Thai and TKD for the ring and cage and as a bouncer, i throw knives and shoot bows and crossbows and slingbows and study a lot of silat (for destructive blocks) and savate (for toe kicks because i faught in shoes or boots) but my greatest love as a child was swords and spears, my feed has been flooded with your videos today and i am thankful for you and your fellows because this is a blast to watch, im thinking i might need to find HEMA practitioners in Indiana so i can play too!

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy to read that! Hope you find a good group!

    • @4thbranch834
      @4thbranch834 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gallachad I live near Fort Wayne, it doesn't look like there is a Hema group around here.
      I would probably have to travel a 4ish hours to Indianapolis, however one of my co-workers and a few of my close friends are supremely interested in sword fighting as well and I think that we might start getting our own armor and practicing. And thankfully I am finding that the armor is not nearly as expensive as I was anticipating.
      We are mostly martial artists, gamers and former military though, if anything I am the most Avid martial historian of the bunch, but i am lazy at my nerdness sometimes so we may just start off brawling lol.
      If you could point me in the direction of some good information for beginners on this stuff it would be greatly appreciated bro.
      And also if there is a brand of gear that might be better than some of the others a little more information along those lines would be awesome man!
      And thanks again for the sparks, they light the fire bro!

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@4thbranch834 If you haven't tried already, use the HEMA club finder here: www.hemaalliance.com/club-finders
      I've always liked SPES Gear's aesthetic, protection, and durability so I'd recommend their products, many of which can be purchased at purpleheart armory, which can be found at: www.woodenswords.com/
      If fighting longsword or heavier I'd recommend clamshell gloves which look like plastic mittens, and if a one handed sword the High Guard gloves have been very good so far. For rapier I'd go for the Singlestick Leather Glove.
      As far as swords go if you start with synthetic swords purpleheart armory sells those as well, and they have a cheap steel line which may be good. I use almost exclusively Castille Armory swords, but they can be pricy for starting out.
      For manuals to start with search up Roworth pdf for basic hand protected singe handed swords, and Capo Ferro pdf or Fabris for rapier, they are easy to digest in my opinion and pretty complete. I do not practice longsword or spear so hopefully someone can lead you to the right place in that regard, though I hear KDF (Kunst Des Fechtens) and Fiore are popular resources. Happy fighting!

    • @4thbranch834
      @4thbranch834 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gallachad wow bro! Thats a lot of info!
      Thanks again, gonna look into all of that, was at one of my buddies houses till late last night watching videos on hema and digging through Google to see what was some of the best gear.
      Im thinking gauntlets and gloves for starters and maybe some soft swords, like pvc wrapped in fun noodles until we get the rest of the protective equipment acquired.
      Also saw some people wearing shin and knee guards that belong to a catcher from the sport of baseball which I think could be found very easy around here used for cheap and I could probably try them and get the right fit instead of ordering them on the Internet.

  • @sinisterswordsman25
    @sinisterswordsman25 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Good stuff! I don't know what the cringeworthy part is but you got me to watch🤘 after reading the description i also want to say can we all seriously chill on the "historical" purity gatekeepering. Maybe here's a crazy idea we can use the tools the masters gave us to develop better systems then they did omg blasphemy lol

    • @superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194
      @superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tbh at some point there should be a seperation between people that want to fight historically accurate and people that just want to do swordplay which is totally ok imo. The problem is that its called Hema where the H stands for historical hence why people are sometimes purists though sometimes too much. The problem is that the masters in their times did teach certain things for very good reason. Reasons we do not yet fully understand because most people never experienced fighting to life and death where things are quite different. Though many of these things can be reconstructed by reading the treatises carefully putting them into context and delving very deep into history. I do think that developing our own styles can be interesting if we know what we do and often i see mistakes that come from a modern interpretation. Also the assumption that we can improve what the older masters had is a bit daring. They often knew what would work what not.
      Especially since they did train their students in selfe defense not point scoring (although that was a part as well). Certain modern stances or tactics are great for tournaments but would get you quickly killed or resulting in double hits something the masters wanted you to avoid at all costs. So for their context they were often perfect. Though that shouldn't mean that people shouldnt experiement etc but i often see flaws in some of the more modern takes on rapier that comes close to olympic fencing. Depends on what one wants to archieve, if its just for tournements then maybe olympic fencing is better or new mixture of it. Thats why i can understand where purists often come from. However this shouldn't be taken to the other extreme.

    • @sinisterswordsman25
      @sinisterswordsman25 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194 lol kinda a long reply bro, but I'll try. I don't disagree with anything you said. I don't really mean a "better" system than the old masters, but rather different. An amalgam of what does work. Like a mma thing, mixed historical martial arts. Obviously the manuals were written by people who knew what they were talking about. But it can be kinda hard to explain like you said they aren't around anymore for 1on1 coaching. They had to try to 'formulatize' their opinions,techniques, and strategy so you can kinda follow along. So they wrote it happens like "if this, do that. If that do this" ect,etc cause that's just how books have to be. Which is fine of course you have to drill something and techniques definitely have there place. But reality is random and not everyone is going to "fight properly". Or even in a way that's safe for them at all. In tournaments do whats gonna get you the W. the rules vary so figure out what's going work for that. Be safe and respectful obviously. In real world scenarios lets call them "if they this, you do that" doesn't always work out perfectly so we should be less stingy about historical accuracy of techniques and find a style that works for our selves by being more open minded taking a pragmatic approach, Imo. Hey have you read 'book of the five rings'? Miyamoto musashi. Interesting read

    • @superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194
      @superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@sinisterswordsman25
      The mixture of styles yeah thats something they already did back in the days. There is an treatise i have that mixes capo ferro and fabris and explains into extreme details as to why they do this and how to do this. Its interesting so they did that back in the day already. Meyer is the same. Some theorise that fiore learned his art from a german master.
      Agree some treatises especially some of the german longsword treatises are somewhat confusing though some later ones do explain it pretty well. Ortenburger Fechtbuch for example adds some information. But for others there are fabris, giganti and palladini. I like them because fabris explains very clearly what you should do overal and then goes into details and like you said states that his techniques are examples but the principles are always the same. Giganti is even better he really teaches basics and his second book is even more interesting. Like Palladini there he suddenly goes about self defense and you see two tempo attacks, grappling, cuts in all forms and even feints over the left foot. Palladini goes further and explains more on how self defense works and how it differs from the Salle.Even teaches about defending yourself while sitting in a chair. Very interesting topics. There they also explain as to why some guards or stances or steps are the way they are. They also deal with aggressive or stupid attackers that know nothing of fencing etc.
      One of the reason the footwork for most of them is very similar. Its just that most of that is ignored and people tend to use olympic fencing stances that are good for tournaments but would be very bad for self defense on an uneven terrain etc. Imo it often looks like people get surprised by real fencing because they did not drill basic theory or understood as to why its done this way.
      I would say that at first historical accuracy is important to understand why it was done. But after that like so many masters did in the past everyone develops their own style.
      Regarding tournaments i remember a Hema club in germany doing historical tournament rules with sidesword. Suddenly many of the techniques worked better and made more sense(Rules punished risky attacking). Rules were taken from manciolino iirc. Similar was done with longsword fencing without protection with interesting results and no serious injuries.(historical longsword rules)
      Read Five rings and also some older sources for fighting in war in japan. Some scholars critise him for certain things but his philosophy is solid. The pragmatic manuals do exist they are just often ignored or sadly not translated. Another good sources but those will prolly never be translated are war manuals from germany and other places. They do sometimes talk about it. Anyways got longer than i wanted.
      So all in all People should have fun however the historical aspect is quite important if applied correctly. And people should experiment a lot. Its just that it shouldnt change into olympic saber and foil fencing.

    • @sinisterswordsman25
      @sinisterswordsman25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194 agreed 100% you've given me a lot of names to Google. Knowledge is knowledge, thank you

    • @Tavamatazz
      @Tavamatazz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100% agree. Honestly I’ve never read a single source, I kinda just started hitting people with swords cuz it looked fun and picked things up as I went. People will be like “oh hey that’s right out of talhoffer, you must be a German practitioner!” And I’ll be like “👍”

  • @viktorkachovski5252
    @viktorkachovski5252 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you are talking about your opponents - definitely. Especially the sabre bouts

  • @afo-allforonefencing722
    @afo-allforonefencing722 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice calm movement, understanding of tempo and distance. Doesn’t make me cringe. Good work.

  • @SirKanti1
    @SirKanti1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I worry for some peoples knees and ankles after watching this.

  • @PXCharon
    @PXCharon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Questioning the mental well being of anyone approaching in Fabris refused 2nd and choosing to cut as first intention...

  • @l3lixx
    @l3lixx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wheelchair guy, you rock Sir

  • @davidwhiteley3879
    @davidwhiteley3879 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The one thing about your technique that stands out is how consistent your hand positions are. I don't see you arm stretching as much as the others. Your delivery is through your legs which allows your hands to remain relatively fixed with respect to your body so that the you can protect any target on you body by retreat (obviously) or by minor short motions with your hands. It is almost as if you wrists and elbows are loosely tethered together. Enjoyed this video very much and it took some time to actually figure out at least a little bit of what makes you so effective.

  • @floridawildin9231
    @floridawildin9231 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No. Not cringe. If you have the guts to compete there is nothing to be ashamed of.

  • @martinsozola8526
    @martinsozola8526 ปีที่แล้ว

    This sharpens my bollock.

  • @LeonFelipeBanegas
    @LeonFelipeBanegas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice tempo and blade control in rapier,

  • @Ricketator
    @Ricketator 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome

  • @Zack-4960
    @Zack-4960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine losing the very first rounds and now have to wait 1 year for another

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      One of the saddest things about competition, but that's why I advocate for plenty of free sparring at events

    • @Zack-4960
      @Zack-4960 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gallachad oh yea right

  • @frankheninja1
    @frankheninja1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I didn’t see any techniques that aren’t in the treatises here bro.

    • @BernasLL
      @BernasLL ปีที่แล้ว +6

      From the title was expecting some weird sh*t as well lol. Everything's pretty much "by the book".

    • @phantomapprentice6749
      @phantomapprentice6749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No bro, he means cringe because of the tackey music

    • @frankheninja1
      @frankheninja1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@phantomapprentice6749 why would that make a “purist” cringe?

    • @LadyNari773
      @LadyNari773 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@frankheninja1hellish quart soundtrack only

  • @thinnedpaints6503
    @thinnedpaints6503 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What sabre are you fencing with there? That guard is very pretty.

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A Castille Schiavona! I prefer it with their one handed feder blade but since it was a saber tournament I changed it out for their 25 mm saber blade

  • @christopherbartlett8100
    @christopherbartlett8100 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really great fencing. Love it!!

  • @Berserkrrr437
    @Berserkrrr437 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I aspire to be like wheel chair guy

  • @ariesofmars2492
    @ariesofmars2492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This fencing looks familiar. Looks like a similar school of principals that I adhere to.

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  ปีที่แล้ว

      What's your discipline, if you don't mind me asking?

    • @ariesofmars2492
      @ariesofmars2492 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GallachadThe best one of course. Tiger style.

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ariesofmars2492 ah yes, same here

  • @Charles-1
    @Charles-1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smallsword fencing?

  • @wielkiolkus
    @wielkiolkus ปีที่แล้ว

    idk where is the problem, i love it :-)

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I admire your fencing

  • @ArmchairViolence
    @ArmchairViolence ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think I can tell which fighters are using textbook historical moves, because you kicked their butts even harder. Excellent fighting, by the way. Very little wasted energy.
    Mad respect to that guy in the wheelchair, though. 0 footwork, and he was still better than most of your other opponents.

    • @user-kb5tr9sf9v
      @user-kb5tr9sf9v ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't believe it, a wild armchair violence is spotted

  • @KatonRyu
    @KatonRyu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a HEMA practitioner this will probably fill you with disgust, but I, as an Olympic epeeist (the sport, I'm obviously not an Olympian) really like your footwork.

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am not disgusted in the slightest, thank you for the kind words!

  • @moXnoX1
    @moXnoX1 ปีที่แล้ว

    modern sport fencing base?

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not me personally, but I believe some of the people teaching this style have some sport fencing backgrounds

  • @giuseppefoggia1073
    @giuseppefoggia1073 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unhistorical?? You are fighting with time, distance and Measure.
    That's is fencing.
    More historical than teatrise

  • @johng1097
    @johng1097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s the cringe worthy part ? This looks exactly like traditional kendo footwork 😂

  • @johnlloyddy7016
    @johnlloyddy7016 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yep, I cringed too alright, not at the fencing, but the music. I expected at least Conan the Barbarian or The Mask of Zorro soundtrack, but an ABBA medley?

    • @ossian1977
      @ossian1977 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's perfect if you think about it. Remember LOST when it was the Platter's "Only You" and Sawyer and some other guy were punching each other senseless in slo-mo in the rain?

  • @MichaelMassie
    @MichaelMassie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Titling it “Fencing that works” probably wouldn’t have gotten as many views.

  • @billbally4419
    @billbally4419 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YT stop sending me fencing videos

  • @amberharmsen2497
    @amberharmsen2497 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this aint jousting this is fencing
    why is the dude on a futuristic horse thing
    /joking

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      XD

  • @resolvedinsteel
    @resolvedinsteel ปีที่แล้ว

    If it CAN be done, then it WAS I'm quite sure XD. We mustn't be afraid of evolution. The historical masters certainly weren't.

  • @ivanpleshakov9491
    @ivanpleshakov9491 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How dare you put a person in a wheelchair in such a montage? Shame on you

    • @TurulHEMA
      @TurulHEMA ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Out of curiosity, where should they be?

    • @ivanpleshakov9491
      @ivanpleshakov9491 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TurulHEMA I see no problem with different people in HEMA, the problem comes when a handicap instead of support and respect gets called cringe.

    • @TurulHEMA
      @TurulHEMA ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ivanpleshakov9491 The content creator was referring to his own fencing, not the fencing of his opponent.

    • @ivanpleshakov9491
      @ivanpleshakov9491 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh. Guess this says two things:
      * Please do make it clearer what your video is about (only when you mentioned I saw that there always was one same opponent each fight)
      ** Anyway, I owe you (the creator of the video) an apology. Keep up your fencing and don't overthink the criticism. Good luck

    • @Gallachad
      @Gallachad  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ivanpleshakov9491 Updated the description to be clearer, happy fencing!

  • @kurtschlichting1903
    @kurtschlichting1903 ปีที่แล้ว

    As long as you win and are not dead who cares.