This movie didn't just show anxiety well, it shows anxiety triggered by a learning disability well. Which is basically what Dory is struggling with and has been sense she was young. Short term memory lose? Try processing disorder! And I love it. Its so relatable to someone like me who grew up with this type of anxiety related to not understanding what was happening around me. There is nothing scarier then the fear that you can't help your self, and you are lost and don't know where to go. But Dory shows a solution, that I and many people like me use every day. The ability to just keep swimming.
I got lost (or separated from my family) easily as a child. No matter how much my mother watched me. I just got easily distracted. Even in my 20s the panic I would get if I missed the stop, while taking a bus, would get me upset. Missed a stop? Get off the next one, only a couple blocks away! My brain didn't think that, thankfully, the bus driver said not to worry and she let me off a the next one. I still knew that area and was fine! The panic left as soon as I realized that. When driving I would pay attention just fine. But, if I'm on the freeway, never fails, something would get my attention (though I'm still paying attention to the driving itself) and I would remember that I might miss my exit because my mind wandered. I would panic because I thought I had missed it, then I would miss it anyway because the panic distracted me! So, I get off the next exit, turn on GPS her reroute me (I learned not to go without it after that). Thank goodness for GPS on my phone! I live outside of Reno, so when I go to Reno I put the GPS because she will remind me before I forget or start to panic. Also, it helps me stay within the speed limit because there just are not enough signs on the road telling me and I hate not knowing. My psychiatrist recently told me this kind of panic confirms I'm on the spectrum. He didn't say where but a previous psychiatrist told me that I had Asperger's Syndrome. I thought you'd want to see that you are not the only one that panics over things everybody else shrugs at. I wish I was diagnosed with AS as a child because I didn't understand anything back then. Scenarios, movies, idioms, jokes, song lyrics (mainly because I had undiagnosed hearing issues), etc had to be explained to me. I constantly asked "Why?". I drove my mother crazy! She tried, but she would benefited from my diagnosis, too. I barely made it through school. In fact, I dropped out of public school and went into a form of homeschool for most of high school. Then, I had to drop out of that (in 12 grade, so I almost made it), then got my GED as 23. Children were harsh and teachers didn't understand. Co-workers were harsh and bosses don't understand, either. I finally got a boss that tries on my current 17th job (I'm 43 years old). Get/keep a psychiatrist/counselor who Listens to you, get diagnoses, learn how to adapt to them and live on! Good luck!
100% agree. Live action reboots are the product of executives thinking “Animation can’t be adult, it has to be real people for people to take it seriously.” I hate that kind of thinking :/
I do too a little. I do love how she has those multiple moments of her remembering something about her past the same way the memories of her adventure with Marlin happens all at once. Because I have the same thing. I remember the most random things at random times
What makes this movie for me is the whole theme related to disabilities and how someone with that can keep moving despite its limitations. It’s very sweet.
Mby, but it took a backseat to the whole adult fear angle. Being overprotective is something parents/guardians of disabled and able-bodied kids alike can relate too
@@AxelWedstar411 Not rlly, it was basically Nemo's arc to realize that he needs to be able to trust himself even though there are also things he can't do. And the movie showed that his parent should also let Nemo live normally because he was, after all, a normal kid.
Malcolm Ferguson you are not the only one , I LOVED cars 2, it's in my top 10 favorite Pixar films. I was genuinely surprised when I found out it got a big negative reception.
I liked Finding Dory. I thought it was cute and charming. While initially it is a pointless sequel (considering how the original ended all in a nice little bow), there is a lot of decent moments in it. It's also one of the few Pixar/Disney movies that doesn't have a twist villain or a forced antagonist.
It does have a minor antagonist in the sequel (the barracuda). But at least for humans, they have a scrutinized role as an antagonist at some point (especially as the fishermen, scuba diver (P. Sherman), the dentist and her niece, etc.)
Honestly, I liked it, but I would have rather seen it as a 40 minute feature than a movie. It has a great story, but they needed to stretch it too much to fill the running time of a movie.
@@MarioKonga Without the humans realizing they're antagonists. By the way, I think antagonist and conflicts have differences. Antagonist - A role where they opposed the protagonist by obstacles. Conflict - An important part of the plot where problems are settled. So I don't considered Dory's mental issue as a so-called "villain" of the story. It's more of a conflict. At least there are few villains in the film were already appeared there so that's that.
Finding Dory feels very much like an analog for what it’s like to raise a special needs child, and the challenges of preparing them for the wide world around them.
And here I went into the movie thinking the 'Just Keep Swimming' song was the parent's attempt to rid of her as her short-term memory loss was irking too much...
That’s what I really liked about it too! It showed real anxiety and how a character deals with her own problems instead of an outside villain or force. Actually, I feel like if we explored that sort of thing in frozen with Elsa I would have liked it better.
JinxMinx How? By giving someone to blame on a forced villain and only have one or two scenes on Elsa and her inner turmoils? I’m sorry if it sounds rude or harsh, but Frozen did have an original script where Elsa had stronger character motivation and that was changed because they liked her song.
@@canvas_125 Even if they didn't focus on it as much, the scenes with Elsa where she has inner turmoil are pretty good. I related to her character a lot. She's been forced to hide who she is and she feels guilt and anxiety over it. I liked her more than Anna who....had some issues, but Elsa was more interesting
xChijouChanx Fair enough; if you enjoyed it that’s awesome. However to me, it felt stronger in the original script where Elsa strikes Anna’s heart (unintentionally of course) out of anger. Elsa makes the comparison that returning home with her gloves on is similar to coming back in chains; imprisoned. I respect your opinion, though. :)
This is what Cars 2 should have been: taking the comic relief, and making them MORE than that from the start instead of just putting them in the lead. Also, that doesn't look like Herbie to me. Edit: Okay, I see it now.
The difference was that in the original film Dory actually had a fully fleshed character with dimension and depth. There was a good foundation for a story based on her. Mater was just a goofy side character of Larry the Cable Guy doing his spiel. That works as a comedic side character but there's nothing there to make a full movie.
@@Christopher_TG Exactly it makes sense to make a movie on Dory cause she had personality, meanwhile Mater was just comic relief and making a movie on him was just dumb.
Actually to be fair the voice actress Ellen Degeneres had been asking for a sequel for YEARS. I wouldn't be shocked if she's the main reason they even made this sequel.
I asked for it! When me and my brother were like five and we watched Finding Nemo for the first time we immediately were like: "part 2 will be called Finding Dory!" and that's exactly what happened. We weren't even surprised when saw it announced.
On the 11th DisneyCember Doug Walker gave me... Pixar's Finding Dory, Spiderman: Homecoming, Color of Friendship, The Force Awakens, Zootopia, The BFG, PIXAR'S COCO!!! Lemonade Mouth, Avengers 2.5, Pixar's Cars 3, and Sad Men Tell No Tales...
YES!!!! I'm so happy you too noticed the possible Herbie Easter Egg!!! Although i will correct you on the reference to the first movie...It seems way more referenced to its 4th movie Herbie Goes Bananas! The reason I say this, is because the Herbie that they threw off of the ship, was actually never found again. The movie crew tried to search for it and recover it, but it was never found. So I like to see this as a reference to that Volkswagen bug as the Lost Herbie.
I have such nostalgic connections to Finding Nemo but Finding Dory did hit the notes I wanted it to hit. Dory is explored more as a character, Nemo even gets more of an opportunity to try new weird things, and I do like its approach to the morale of anxiety, looking into why its there and showing some workarounds. I do think Finding Nemo is technically better but I am surprised Finding Dory ended up being fantastic even if Nemo ended on a near perfect note.
Another good thing about this movie is the octopus: they had to invent a new tecnology and build a different kind of puppet to render the movement of the real animal to perfection!
I also happened to really enjoy the sequel despite thinking that the original film would not ever have a sequel in the future, but it’s cool that we did get one years later and getting to have more of an insight into Dory as a character given what hints and context clues were hinted at in the first film with her short term memory loss. Of course, I definitely prefer the first film over this one, but I really appreciate how sentimental this one was too and delved into a character who struggles with a disability. As a person with Autism, it’s nice to know that Pixar made a film with a protagonist who suffers from a disability.
Yeah Disney handled the issue of anxiety very well, I could also feel her pain too! Almost cried when she found out that her parents had been waiting for her and never forgot about her all this time!!
This is perhaps the best PIXAR sequel since Toy Story 3 and has one unique message about a character who has a disability. I was surprised how well the writers and the director and the animators just had to make this not a rehash of the original.
Ellen DeGeneres does such a fantastic job as Dory. She can be funny, she can be relatable, and you feel like rooting for her. And when she finally finds her folks, it's such a nice reunion. I didn't expect a Finding Nemo sequel, but I really enjoyed it.
🎶On the 11th day of Disney-cember, Critic gave to me... Dory will "keep swimming", Friendly spider swinging, Sign that Disney's growing, Great times a watching, Lessons worth a knowing, 60 years of filming, JIVE SKELETONS SING!!, Forced cliches are learned, Beefing super friends, 2 films no one loves, & a review of a sub-par movie!🎶 ✌🎅Merry Critic-mas!
I like that this movie tackles what it's not only like to live with a disability but also for the family of people with said disabilities, at least from what I hear I've yet to see the movie. I can identify with that so much because I'm autistic and my parents have to work around that since this doesn't go away. Off note, the octopus being able to escape and move around like that is not completely far fetched. Octopi are so smart and so human like that there are multiple stories of octopi doing everything from chucking one bad shrimp they found at their handler after escaping their tank, trying to escape their tanks, getting out of their tanks to eat the fish in the other tanks after memorizing the night guard patterns and even destroying lights that were bugging them.
The problem I had with this movie is that it stretched my suspension of disbelief. There were SO many instances of the characters having to rely ENTIRELY on luck to get through an obstacle (such as Marlin and Nemo having to hop across water sprinklers or flying into the air only to land in a fishbowl). Yes I know the first film had a Clownfish crossing the entire ocean but applying such luck-based logic in a place that is even MORE dangerous for fish (little water and all those people) it just stretched it too thin
icecream hero when the cartoon has rules that are similar to real life it has to stick by those rules. Luck-based events like that just cannot happen under the rules set by the movie. You’ll understand when you’re older
@@SunnyDayzzzzz I'm 20 Also the original finding Nemo had cartoony moments and they mostly happened to the fish. And yeah they did up the anty a bit but that makes it more exciting especially that chase at the end. No they didn't out right break any rules.
I think we all know someone in our lives who is a lot like Hank: Very cynical, grumpy, tired of people's nonsense, but secretly really care for their loved ones
I think its a good movie, but a one big problem: at the moment, when the animals doesnt behave like animals anymore, like when the octopus drives the car, the movie lost me. of course its a cartoon and the animals are acting like humans, but in the first movie it was all from a believeable animal point of view. but this is to unrealistic for me to enjoy. thats looney tunes slapstick.
God people are boring. It's animation, you can do whatever you want with it, which is the whole point of the medium. And that scene was super hilarious. Also, it is in character of the Mimic Octopus to be extremely intelligent and find ways of escaping, it's just done in a Pixar way. And come now, the entire first film was about a fish scaling the whole sea to find his son. In no way would that ever happen. It's an animated film.
jjbgood of lungbarrow My thoughts exactly. I thought the whole car scene was unecessary and pulled me out of it. Yeah sure, these fish are tank jumping everywhere, but a driving octupus which can’t even see where he is going somehow got a truck filled with fish into the ocean?
Yeah, a Disney movie where animals act like humans and have human attributes, WHAT A SHOCKING TWIST! Suspension of disbelief 100% ruined, 0/10, too much water!
I went to see this movie on my birthday as part of a surprise party my friends had for me when my mom was sick and my plans were to just take care of her and I enjoyed it a lot and the personal memory of that day makes it such a special movie for me
I have heard so many people talk crap about this film and I don't get why. The first film wasn't my favourite film ever and neither is this one, but that's fine. They are both charming, heart-warming and pretty to look at. I don't get why people always get angry when a film just isn't surpassing the original... not all sequels have to do that. The sequel usually exists because the first film was so good, so living up the expectations already set and surpassing them is a pretty tall order. This film is fine and I was happy I saw it... I don't know why that isn't enough for some people.
I loved the first film so much. The reason why I dislike Finding Dory so much is the fact that her memory is soooooo subjective and plot driven. It makes no sense. Additionally, the first was this heartwarming story about the lengths a parent would go to to protect and get back their child. Meanwhile, the sequel points out how shitty react when their child goes missing. Wait for them to come back I guess. It would make more sense for Marlin to wait for Nemo seeing as Nemo could at least remember where home is but to just abandon your mentally disabled kid, not even look for them but just hope that they return? I don't know it rubbed me the wrong way.
I felt ok about this movie UNTIL the climax. The climax was just so over the top goofy that it totally took me out of it. I feel like the movie as a whole stretches suspension of disbelief a lot, but the climax in particular was just something I will never buy into. Overall I did feel the movie was a letdown. And maybe it's because I hated the climax so much but yeah, Even with Incredibles 2, the upgraded animation and the new direction they took the characters felt like the sequel was worth it. This just feels hollow. Except for Sigourney Weaver. Her part was actually hilarious.
When me and my brother were like five and we watched Finding Nemo for the first time we immediately were like: "part 2 will be called Finding Dory!" and that's exactly what happened. We weren't even surprised when saw it announced.
I was surprised by how many people hated this movie or felt disappointed with it, I found it fun, creative and even touching. As a person with ADHD and Anxiety I identified myself a lot with Dory.
I loved Finding Dory. Being fan of the original, I knew I was gonna like it even if it wouldn't be on par with the original. Truth be told, it was much better than I expected it to be.
I loved this to the same extent as Finding Nemo ngl! Dory is an incredible character to have in anything and the animation is beautiful. Soundtrack is mesmerising too
This is probably my favorite Pixar sequels outside the Toy Story series. Rather than being a pointless sequel that puts the side character/comic relief in the front seat, this film feels like one that would speak to a specific audience while being enjoyable for everyone and I really admire that. It’s it better than the first one? No. But I’d argue this is on par with the original and that’s saying something
What I found weird was that in the original, it took the protagonists a long time to swim from the northeast coast to the southeast coast of Australia. In this one, they cross the entire Pacific Ocean from Australia to California in seemingly no time!
As an adult with Autism this film hit me hard. I didn't realize how important it was for me to see a movie about an adult with disabilities. She's so scared to do anything by herself because she thinks her disability makes her unable. I know that. I feel that. I still don't drive because of that. But I do so much more. I got through college on my own. I'm working and supporting myself and living on my own. Seeing Dory do things she thought she couldn't makes me feel really good and reminds me of what I've accomplished.
I think the Herbie reference he was talking about was more lenient towards Herbie Goes Bananas where Herbie was tossed overboard on a ship as opposed to the suicide attempt in The Love Bug. Still, it's an Easter Egg that i honestly didn't notice up until now. Quite strange huh?
I love the ending to this one more than the original, they sit on the dropoff and just enjoy the view instead of leaving on a big adventure as the camera pans out it’s just perfect
I'm so happy for this movie because it so authenticity captured what it's like to have short term memory loss. Its dramatized a little bit, but the guilt, the freezing, the great long term memory, it's so real and it real really touched me.
I love both of these films but there was something that this film lacked, at least for me, that the first film nailed. The impact. The first film has an overprotective father who has done goofed and goes out of his way to find his one and only son and seeing Nemo hearing his journey is so thrilling. It clearly shows that Marlin does care and will do anything for him. Finding Dory, as you said, kinda repeats the first film but it is a story of Dory and her anxiety. How things slowly falls apart on her on both ends. And the way how they did it is amazing but it lacks the impact. I guess it's because I don't see myself being connected to Dory whereas I can connect to Marlin in the first film. Now I'm not a father, but even as a kid, I did heavy blows that affected both me and my family and I sadly do today. Everytime I look back to the first film, I reflect my heavy blows everytime when Marlin overdid his trope and goes out of his way to find his son just like how I go out of my way to fix my mistakes. Again, I enjoyed both films, but for me, the first one will always hit a home run because of how I can easily connect to it
Well speaking as someone who's autistic and is currently dealing with anxiety.I have to say judging it souly based on how well you personally connect to it is kinda unfair. And to be frank if you have'nt dealt with anxiety you probably will one day, seeing a charachter like Dory suceed inspite of her disabilites is something alot of people can relate to. Hell I appreciate it even more now with some personal issues I have going on. It takes real mental strength to fight back against anxiety and not let it keep you down, it's probably why I always loved Dory overcoming her low point so much, to the point where I actually considered her movie to be just a little bit better than Captain America civil war which also had some amazing writing and emotional stuff.
this one was a big surprise for me too. It's not perfect but after how UNDERWHELMING Incredibles 2 turned out to be, I started to miss the stuff that this movie got right- especially what they did with Dory.
The thing about the "not remembering her family" bit in the first movie is that it's highlighted in such a way that you swear it was a purposeful foreshadow even though it almost certainly wasn't.
"The chase scene was pointless?" Nonsense! It served a point in getting Dory stuck in a soda ring so the humans would take her into the institute to make sure she's okay, as well as make Marlin a little upset at Dory for getting Nemo hurt. That way, Marlin would regret his words and would be seeking out Dory not just to make sure she's safe but to apologize. Doug, your review is great, but I wish you'd put more thought into the reason certain plot points happened.
WiiGuy2014 maybe not pointless but it’s clearly rushed and forced... every chase scene in nemo had great set up and even tension going in... here they just go to a random place and a killer octopus is just there... it doesn’t flow as well as the rest of the movie
Finding Nemo a story of loving over protective father physical trying to find his son by crossing the ocean while facing the threats of said ocean Finding Dory a story of someone going on a soul searching journey to find out who they are and where they came from while also finding their parents and dealing with their emotional and mental problems so it's not a bad sequel to one of my favorite animated films of all time.
I know some people see sequels as cynical cash grabs, but in some cases, genuine passion is really put into them. Finding Dory is such a film - it does slip into the "unnecessary sequel" territory, being that the story was wrapped up in Finding Nemo, and the franchise wasn't being set up to tell a continuing story, however Pixar still worked hard on it, and it really is an enjoyable film.
People always assume that a sequel is automatically made with money in mind, but that's why I actually take the time to actually listen to behind the scenes stuff as more often than not peoples baseless assumptions prove to be dead wrong about why a sequel was made. Dory was'nt made for money, Andrew Stanton saw the film in 3d since it's first release and felt her story was incomplete. Which it WAS in the first movie, Marlin and Nemo's stories were wrapped up but Dory was still a mystery. Now we got it and both movies together feel like one complete package paid off nicely with the end of Finding Dory.
I related so much to this movie! and I'm not even a fan of the first one, or find the characters that cute. But seeing Dori freeze and the portrayal of anxiety and panic attacks, really got me, I really really felt it because of my own anxiety disorder and how it doesn't let me live my life normally.
Pixar's most underrated film, in my opinion. I personally prefer it over the first, it just hits to much harder and closer to me than Finding Nemo ever did.
I honestly liked this film better. It's a lot more relatable for me, plus I feel like the first film hits you over the head with its message a few times too many.
I didn't like Finding Nemo that much, so finding Dory didn't peak my interest, but I watched it and thought it was okay, probably wouldn't put it on by choice, but I could sit through it if I had too. But, I do really hope the NC reviews Frankenweenie, I want to see what he thinks of it! :)
Ok, did NO ONE ELSE CRY at the scene with the lines of seashells??!?!?!?!? Am I really the only one that frickin' paused the movie to cry for a few minutes? Seriously, that scene hit me HARD! Harder than any of the other Pixar movies! Maybe bc it was one of the few emotional plot twists I didn't predict.
Im australian, and i think that that is the reason i didnt enjoy this movie as much as i couldve. I have never had that sense of under-representation before, but this film felt like such an american-ised version of a movie that was so close to my heart. It never occured to me that the reason i connected so much to finding nemo was because it was set in my own country. You do see australia in a lot of big budget movies as it is a major filming location, but always a sub-in for another location (the new york scene in thor ragnarok was filmed in Brisbane, my city) and never showcased as itself. Wow, that was a tangent. These are just some thoughts that bugged me about finding dory and other big budget movies. Again, ive never been someone to feel under-represented, but this movie was the first to make me think about that
The film was made by an American company though? Either way, they leave the area where Nemo and Marlin live purposefully vague on purpose so they can travel to these places
@@xChijouChanx Nemo and Marlin's home is the Great Barrier Reef, a natural wonder off the coast of northern Queensland. They also travel dow the EAC with the turtles, which is a real current off of the entire east coast of Australia in order to get to Sydney Harbour. Yes, Pixar is and American company, but they made an incredible movie that showcases the natural wonder Australia has to offer, similar how they showcased Mexican culture in Coco. It was just a disappointment that they didnt keep the Australian roots in the sequel.
i love this movie because i can relate to dory! i have adhd and its nice to see a character with a disability and it doesn't defy who she is. keep up the good work pixar!!!
This movie didn't just show anxiety well, it shows anxiety triggered by a learning disability well. Which is basically what Dory is struggling with and has been sense she was young. Short term memory lose? Try processing disorder! And I love it. Its so relatable to someone like me who grew up with this type of anxiety related to not understanding what was happening around me. There is nothing scarier then the fear that you can't help your self, and you are lost and don't know where to go. But Dory shows a solution, that I and many people like me use every day. The ability to just keep swimming.
So... you have learning disability?
So true
Dory shows sign of having ADD/ADHD
I got lost (or separated from my family) easily as a child. No matter how much my mother watched me. I just got easily distracted. Even in my 20s the panic I would get if I missed the stop, while taking a bus, would get me upset. Missed a stop? Get off the next one, only a couple blocks away! My brain didn't think that, thankfully, the bus driver said not to worry and she let me off a the next one. I still knew that area and was fine! The panic left as soon as I realized that. When driving I would pay attention just fine. But, if I'm on the freeway, never fails, something would get my attention (though I'm still paying attention to the driving itself) and I would remember that I might miss my exit because my mind wandered. I would panic because I thought I had missed it, then I would miss it anyway because the panic distracted me! So, I get off the next exit, turn on GPS her reroute me (I learned not to go without it after that). Thank goodness for GPS on my phone! I live outside of Reno, so when I go to Reno I put the GPS because she will remind me before I forget or start to panic. Also, it helps me stay within the speed limit because there just are not enough signs on the road telling me and I hate not knowing. My psychiatrist recently told me this kind of panic confirms I'm on the spectrum. He didn't say where but a previous psychiatrist told me that I had Asperger's Syndrome.
I thought you'd want to see that you are not the only one that panics over things everybody else shrugs at.
I wish I was diagnosed with AS as a child because I didn't understand anything back then. Scenarios, movies, idioms, jokes, song lyrics (mainly because I had undiagnosed hearing issues), etc had to be explained to me. I constantly asked "Why?". I drove my mother crazy! She tried, but she would benefited from my diagnosis, too. I barely made it through school. In fact, I dropped out of public school and went into a form of homeschool for most of high school. Then, I had to drop out of that (in 12 grade, so I almost made it), then got my GED as 23. Children were harsh and teachers didn't understand. Co-workers were harsh and bosses don't understand, either. I finally got a boss that tries on my current 17th job (I'm 43 years old).
Get/keep a psychiatrist/counselor who Listens to you, get diagnoses, learn how to adapt to them and live on! Good luck!
I'd rather take "sequels" than live-action reboots any day.
Yeah, I'd honestly much rather watch Cars 2 over that 2017 remake of Beauty and the Beast.
At least, _that_ had a few moments that I actually enjoyed.
same here
100% agree. Live action reboots are the product of executives thinking “Animation can’t be adult, it has to be real people for people to take it seriously.”
I hate that kind of thinking :/
Um yeah.....sequels were not that great when Disney did them, but over the years they have gotten better unlike some (cough) Cars 2 (cough).
@@iamjohnporter67 I know but I'd prefer them over an entire remake.
As somebody who has memory issues, I relate to Dory on a personal level. I loved this film.
Same!
I do too a little. I do love how she has those multiple moments of her remembering something about her past the same way the memories of her adventure with Marlin happens all at once. Because I have the same thing. I remember the most random things at random times
I really connected with this movie giving my history with autism.
What makes this movie for me is the whole theme related to disabilities and how someone with that can keep moving despite its limitations.
It’s very sweet.
That. Until the incredibly stupid ending... The scene with the truck was awful.
The first movie had the same theme
Mby, but it took a backseat to the whole adult fear angle. Being overprotective is something parents/guardians of disabled and able-bodied kids alike can relate too
@@AxelWedstar411 Not rlly, it was basically Nemo's arc to realize that he needs to be able to trust himself even though there are also things he can't do. And the movie showed that his parent should also let Nemo live normally because he was, after all, a normal kid.
It made a nice juxtaposition since the first film was about living with physical disabilities and this one is about mental ones.
Dory did what Mater couldn't, HOLD A FILM ON THEIR OWN!
Amen to that!
I must be the only person who actually liked Cars 2. I love Mater.
The writers achieved that by expanding her character at the core. Something they did not do with Mater.
@@malcolmferguson4869 I thought it was fine, for the most part.
Malcolm Ferguson you are not the only one , I LOVED cars 2, it's in my top 10 favorite Pixar films. I was genuinely surprised when I found out it got a big negative reception.
The scene where she finally does find her family is... SO well done...
I liked Finding Dory. I thought it was cute and charming.
While initially it is a pointless sequel (considering how the original ended all in a nice little bow), there is a lot of decent moments in it.
It's also one of the few Pixar/Disney movies that doesn't have a twist villain or a forced antagonist.
Matthew Cool Or any antagonist for that matter
It does have a minor antagonist in the sequel (the barracuda). But at least for humans, they have a scrutinized role as an antagonist at some point (especially as the fishermen, scuba diver (P. Sherman), the dentist and her niece, etc.)
The antagonist would be Dory's short term memory loss. An antagonist doesn't have to be a person.
Honestly, I liked it, but I would have rather seen it as a 40 minute feature than a movie. It has a great story, but they needed to stretch it too much to fill the running time of a movie.
@@MarioKonga Without the humans realizing they're antagonists. By the way, I think antagonist and conflicts have differences.
Antagonist - A role where they opposed the protagonist by obstacles.
Conflict - An important part of the plot where problems are settled.
So I don't considered Dory's mental issue as a so-called "villain" of the story. It's more of a conflict. At least there are few villains in the film were already appeared there so that's that.
Finding Dory feels very much like an analog for what it’s like to raise a special needs child, and the challenges of preparing them for the wide world around them.
And here I went into the movie thinking the 'Just Keep Swimming' song was the parent's attempt to rid of her as her short-term memory loss was irking too much...
It's like Finding Nemo..... But it's watered down
I see what you did there
Take your upvote and leave!
Дмитрий Киселёв *sea You missed the perfect pun
I seriously dont know wheter I should give you a thumbs up or thumbs down
And doesn't take place in Australia
*_This is so sad, Alexa plays "Just Keep Swimming"_*
I was looking for this comment. Glad I found it. 🤣
Me an intellectual: Alexa play *DRAGONFORCE*
That’s what I really liked about it too! It showed real anxiety and how a character deals with her own problems instead of an outside villain or force. Actually, I feel like if we explored that sort of thing in frozen with Elsa I would have liked it better.
kawaii kate I thought frozen handled it well
JinxMinx How? By giving someone to blame on a forced villain and only have one or two scenes on Elsa and her inner turmoils? I’m sorry if it sounds rude or harsh, but Frozen did have an original script where Elsa had stronger character motivation and that was changed because they liked her song.
@@canvas_125 Even if they didn't focus on it as much, the scenes with Elsa where she has inner turmoil are pretty good. I related to her character a lot. She's been forced to hide who she is and she feels guilt and anxiety over it. I liked her more than Anna who....had some issues, but Elsa was more interesting
xChijouChanx Fair enough; if you enjoyed it that’s awesome. However to me, it felt stronger in the original script where Elsa strikes Anna’s heart (unintentionally of course) out of anger. Elsa makes the comparison that returning home with her gloves on is similar to coming back in chains; imprisoned. I respect your opinion, though. :)
Disney: “Hello, I like money”
Audience: “What inspired you to make a second Finding Nemo years after the original”
Disney: “Money!”
That's basically every Pixar sequels nowadays in a nutshell, especially with Toy Story 4.
@@ToxicTurquoise454 facts doesn't care for feelings
Also Ellen wouldn't stfu asking about a sequel.
@@ToxicTurquoise454 The truth hurts.
I understood that reference.
This is what Cars 2 should have been: taking the comic relief, and making them MORE than that from the start instead of just putting them in the lead.
Also, that doesn't look like Herbie to me. Edit: Okay, I see it now.
The difference was that in the original film Dory actually had a fully fleshed character with dimension and depth. There was a good foundation for a story based on her. Mater was just a goofy side character of Larry the Cable Guy doing his spiel. That works as a comedic side character but there's nothing there to make a full movie.
@@Christopher_TG Exactly it makes sense to make a movie on Dory cause she had personality, meanwhile Mater was just comic relief and making a movie on him was just dumb.
Finding Dory : the decent sequel no one really ask for .😁👌
Actually to be fair the voice actress Ellen Degeneres had been asking for a sequel for YEARS. I wouldn't be shocked if she's the main reason they even made this sequel.
I did. :)
That's the thing about ideas no one asked for: you do them well, people like it.
I asked for it! When me and my brother were like five and we watched Finding Nemo for the first time we immediately were like: "part 2 will be called Finding Dory!" and that's exactly what happened. We weren't even surprised when saw it announced.
Or remembers
On the 11th DisneyCember
Doug Walker gave me...
Pixar's Finding Dory,
Spiderman: Homecoming,
Color of Friendship,
The Force Awakens,
Zootopia,
The BFG,
PIXAR'S COCO!!!
Lemonade Mouth,
Avengers 2.5,
Pixar's Cars 3,
and Sad Men Tell No Tales...
*dead
3:29. It was actually a reference to “Herbie Goes Bananas” where he gets thrown into the ocean
Still, that's deliciously dark.
@@Odinsday Yep considering Disney never could get those cars out of the ocean
NEXT ON GAME THEORY
YES!!!! I'm so happy you too noticed the possible Herbie Easter Egg!!! Although i will correct you on the reference to the first movie...It seems way more referenced to its 4th movie Herbie Goes Bananas! The reason I say this, is because the Herbie that they threw off of the ship, was actually never found again. The movie crew tried to search for it and recover it, but it was never found. So I like to see this as a reference to that Volkswagen bug as the Lost Herbie.
I have such nostalgic connections to Finding Nemo but Finding Dory did hit the notes I wanted it to hit. Dory is explored more as a character, Nemo even gets more of an opportunity to try new weird things, and I do like its approach to the morale of anxiety, looking into why its there and showing some workarounds. I do think Finding Nemo is technically better but I am surprised Finding Dory ended up being fantastic even if Nemo ended on a near perfect note.
Another good thing about this movie is the octopus: they had to invent a new tecnology and build a different kind of puppet to render the movement of the real animal to perfection!
3:35--I'd say it's more a nod to HERBIE GOES BANANAS where the car literally got tossed overboard a ship
Not as good as the original, but still enjoyable
pretty much Pixar's motto with sequels
Agreed
Agreed
I also happened to really enjoy the sequel despite thinking that the original film would not ever have a sequel in the future, but it’s cool that we did get one years later and getting to have more of an insight into Dory as a character given what hints and context clues were hinted at in the first film with her short term memory loss. Of course, I definitely prefer the first film over this one, but I really appreciate how sentimental this one was too and delved into a character who struggles with a disability. As a person with Autism, it’s nice to know that Pixar made a film with a protagonist who suffers from a disability.
why do i get the feeling that in best case scenrio people will think toy story 4 is that: pointless, but enjoyed
That Herbie theory tho. WTF???
I never noticed that car was actually Herbie.
Disneyverse is pretty messed up at times.
yep
I mean it could be a different punch bug (beetle) or an Easter egg.
@@w1ndgeneral226 could be
Yeah Disney handled the issue of anxiety very well, I could also feel her pain too!
Almost cried when she found out that her parents had been waiting for her and never forgot about her all this time!!
I actually cried! Did no else cry? I can't find anyone else who cried at that scene!
This is perhaps the best PIXAR sequel since Toy Story 3 and has one unique message about a character who has a disability. I was surprised how well the writers and the director and the animators just had to make this not a rehash of the original.
I actually really liked this movie
I like it More than the increibles 2
Ellen DeGeneres does such a fantastic job as Dory. She can be funny, she can be relatable, and you feel like rooting for her. And when she finally finds her folks, it's such a nice reunion. I didn't expect a Finding Nemo sequel, but I really enjoyed it.
🎶On the 11th day of Disney-cember, Critic gave to me... Dory will "keep swimming",
Friendly spider swinging,
Sign that Disney's growing,
Great times a watching,
Lessons worth a knowing,
60 years of filming,
JIVE SKELETONS SING!!,
Forced cliches are learned,
Beefing super friends,
2 films no one loves,
& a review of a sub-par movie!🎶
✌🎅Merry Critic-mas!
1:34 that perfect use of the vertigo effect though
I like that this movie tackles what it's not only like to live with a disability but also for the family of people with said disabilities, at least from what I hear I've yet to see the movie. I can identify with that so much because I'm autistic and my parents have to work around that since this doesn't go away. Off note, the octopus being able to escape and move around like that is not completely far fetched. Octopi are so smart and so human like that there are multiple stories of octopi doing everything from chucking one bad shrimp they found at their handler after escaping their tank, trying to escape their tanks, getting out of their tanks to eat the fish in the other tanks after memorizing the night guard patterns and even destroying lights that were bugging them.
The best part of Finding Dory is the last line of dialogue.
The problem I had with this movie is that it stretched my suspension of disbelief. There were SO many instances of the characters having to rely ENTIRELY on luck to get through an obstacle (such as Marlin and Nemo having to hop across water sprinklers or flying into the air only to land in a fishbowl). Yes I know the first film had a Clownfish crossing the entire ocean but applying such luck-based logic in a place that is even MORE dangerous for fish (little water and all those people) it just stretched it too thin
It's a cartoon
icecream hero newsflash: that doesn’t make it immune to criticism
@@SunnyDayzzzzz Your saying a cartoon is being too absurd.
icecream hero when the cartoon has rules that are similar to real life it has to stick by those rules. Luck-based events like that just cannot happen under the rules set by the movie. You’ll understand when you’re older
@@SunnyDayzzzzz I'm 20 Also the original finding Nemo had cartoony moments and they mostly happened to the fish. And yeah they did up the anty a bit but that makes it more exciting especially that chase at the end. No they didn't out right break any rules.
Damn, no mention of Hank?? I think people unanimously agree it's the shining spot of the movie to those who love or hate the movie.
I think we all know someone in our lives who is a lot like Hank: Very cynical, grumpy, tired of people's nonsense, but secretly really care for their loved ones
He is my favorite character of the whole movie lmao
I can’t wait to hear Doug’s thoughts on Incredibles 2
He think it's better than the first.
@@Stew91 during the mid part of the movie(the 2nd one) it felt a bit rushed in my opinion
Justin Stewart probably, but I want to hear more details
@@Stew91 Ew
I think its a good movie, but a one big problem: at the moment, when the animals doesnt behave like animals anymore, like when the octopus drives the car, the movie lost me. of course its a cartoon and the animals are acting like humans, but in the first movie it was all from a believeable animal point of view. but this is to unrealistic for me to enjoy. thats looney tunes slapstick.
Agree
Yeah I was on the fence about the movie until these scenes, then it completely lost me
God people are boring. It's animation, you can do whatever you want with it, which is the whole point of the medium. And that scene was super hilarious. Also, it is in character of the Mimic Octopus to be extremely intelligent and find ways of escaping, it's just done in a Pixar way. And come now, the entire first film was about a fish scaling the whole sea to find his son. In no way would that ever happen. It's an animated film.
jjbgood of lungbarrow My thoughts exactly. I thought the whole car scene was unecessary and pulled me out of it. Yeah sure, these fish are tank jumping everywhere, but a driving octupus which can’t even see where he is going somehow got a truck filled with fish into the ocean?
Yeah, a Disney movie where animals act like humans and have human attributes, WHAT A SHOCKING TWIST! Suspension of disbelief 100% ruined, 0/10, too much water!
I went to see this movie on my birthday as part of a surprise party my friends had for me when my mom was sick and my plans were to just take care of her and I enjoyed it a lot and the personal memory of that day makes it such a special movie for me
I have heard so many people talk crap about this film and I don't get why. The first film wasn't my favourite film ever and neither is this one, but that's fine. They are both charming, heart-warming and pretty to look at. I don't get why people always get angry when a film just isn't surpassing the original... not all sequels have to do that. The sequel usually exists because the first film was so good, so living up the expectations already set and surpassing them is a pretty tall order. This film is fine and I was happy I saw it... I don't know why that isn't enough for some people.
I loved the first film so much. The reason why I dislike Finding Dory so much is the fact that her memory is soooooo subjective and plot driven. It makes no sense. Additionally, the first was this heartwarming story about the lengths a parent would go to to protect and get back their child. Meanwhile, the sequel points out how shitty react when their child goes missing. Wait for them to come back I guess. It would make more sense for Marlin to wait for Nemo seeing as Nemo could at least remember where home is but to just abandon your mentally disabled kid, not even look for them but just hope that they return? I don't know it rubbed me the wrong way.
I felt ok about this movie UNTIL the climax. The climax was just so over the top goofy that it totally took me out of it. I feel like the movie as a whole stretches suspension of disbelief a lot, but the climax in particular was just something I will never buy into. Overall I did feel the movie was a letdown. And maybe it's because I hated the climax so much but yeah, Even with Incredibles 2, the upgraded animation and the new direction they took the characters felt like the sequel was worth it. This just feels hollow. Except for Sigourney Weaver. Her part was actually hilarious.
I agree.
I love Finding Dory.
It's so cute...
When me and my brother were like five and we watched Finding Nemo for the first time we immediately were like: "part 2 will be called Finding Dory!" and that's exactly what happened. We weren't even surprised when saw it announced.
1:15 I don't know why but I find that scene of Hank hiding in the baby carriage so cute!
I was surprised by how many people hated this movie or felt disappointed with it, I found it fun, creative and even touching. As a person with ADHD and Anxiety I identified myself a lot with Dory.
I know, right? I do too. Did no one else cry when Dory discovered all the lines of seashells???
Found a Finding Dory review worth watching!
I loved Finding Dory.
Being fan of the original, I knew I was gonna like it even if it wouldn't be on par with the original.
Truth be told, it was much better than I expected it to be.
hmm... It looks Good... Maybe I'll watch it while I'm on hiatus.
I'm really enjoying this Disneycember
I loved this to the same extent as Finding Nemo ngl! Dory is an incredible character to have in anything and the animation is beautiful. Soundtrack is mesmerising too
Okay, Destiny is not a whale. She's a whale _shark_.
This is probably my favorite Pixar sequels outside the Toy Story series. Rather than being a pointless sequel that puts the side character/comic relief in the front seat, this film feels like one that would speak to a specific audience while being enjoyable for everyone and I really admire that. It’s it better than the first one? No. But I’d argue this is on par with the original and that’s saying something
🎶 And I think to myself what a wonderful world 🎶
What I found weird was that in the original, it took the protagonists a long time to swim from the northeast coast to the southeast coast of Australia. In this one, they cross the entire Pacific Ocean from Australia to California in seemingly no time!
I will defend Finding Dory until the day I die.
i actually liked this one better because of the characters and locations, its all so breath taking i feel like im at the Baltimore aquarium
As an adult with Autism this film hit me hard. I didn't realize how important it was for me to see a movie about an adult with disabilities. She's so scared to do anything by herself because she thinks her disability makes her unable. I know that. I feel that. I still don't drive because of that. But I do so much more. I got through college on my own. I'm working and supporting myself and living on my own. Seeing Dory do things she thought she couldn't makes me feel really good and reminds me of what I've accomplished.
I think the Herbie reference he was talking about was more lenient towards Herbie Goes Bananas where Herbie was tossed overboard on a ship as opposed to the suicide attempt in The Love Bug. Still, it's an Easter Egg that i honestly didn't notice up until now. Quite strange huh?
I'm thinking the same thing. The filmmakers if I recall never recovered the bug they threw overboard.
I love the ending to this one more than the original, they sit on the dropoff and just enjoy the view instead of leaving on a big adventure as the camera pans out it’s just perfect
That ending... ooooh. Tears and chills every time.
I really like this too, those Sea Lions get me Every time
I actually love MONSTERS UNIVERSITY and FINDING DORY
Awesome, I hate Ghostbusters(1984)
Thing 1 & Thing 2 The Media Maniacs MU imo wasnt terrible i found it charming and l did like it
I'm so happy for this movie because it so authenticity captured what it's like to have short term memory loss. Its dramatized a little bit, but the guilt, the freezing, the great long term memory, it's so real and it real really touched me.
Herbie is officially part of the Pixar Theory.
I liked the seals
They remind me of my grandma not wanting me on her couch.
3:47 How was Finding Nemo better technologically? The animation, rigging, and modeling is way more polished in Finding Dory.
I think he meant Finding Nemo was more of a technological leap.
I love both of these films but there was something that this film lacked, at least for me, that the first film nailed. The impact. The first film has an overprotective father who has done goofed and goes out of his way to find his one and only son and seeing Nemo hearing his journey is so thrilling. It clearly shows that Marlin does care and will do anything for him.
Finding Dory, as you said, kinda repeats the first film but it is a story of Dory and her anxiety. How things slowly falls apart on her on both ends. And the way how they did it is amazing but it lacks the impact. I guess it's because I don't see myself being connected to Dory whereas I can connect to Marlin in the first film.
Now I'm not a father, but even as a kid, I did heavy blows that affected both me and my family and I sadly do today. Everytime I look back to the first film, I reflect my heavy blows everytime when Marlin overdid his trope and goes out of his way to find his son just like how I go out of my way to fix my mistakes.
Again, I enjoyed both films, but for me, the first one will always hit a home run because of how I can easily connect to it
Well speaking as someone who's autistic and is currently dealing with anxiety.I have to say judging it souly based on how well you personally connect to it is kinda unfair. And to be frank if you have'nt dealt with anxiety you probably will one day, seeing a charachter like Dory suceed inspite of her disabilites is something alot of people can relate to. Hell I appreciate it even more now with some personal issues I have going on. It takes real mental strength to fight back against anxiety and not let it keep you down, it's probably why I always loved Dory overcoming her low point so much, to the point where I actually considered her movie to be just a little bit better than Captain America civil war which also had some amazing writing and emotional stuff.
Baby Dory is a reverse Anakin.
Saw this movie in theaters twice and loved it both times
It's the blueprint for the Disney StarWars sequels, watered down rehashes of the the originals.
this one was a big surprise for me too. It's not perfect but after how UNDERWHELMING Incredibles 2 turned out to be, I started to miss the stuff that this movie got right- especially what they did with Dory.
Great, in the first film, we lost Coral. And now in this film, we lose Herbie. WHYYYYYY?!!?!?!?!
The thing about the "not remembering her family" bit in the first movie is that it's highlighted in such a way that you swear it was a purposeful foreshadow even though it almost certainly wasn't.
"The chase scene was pointless?" Nonsense! It served a point in getting Dory stuck in a soda ring so the humans would take her into the institute to make sure she's okay, as well as make Marlin a little upset at Dory for getting Nemo hurt. That way, Marlin would regret his words and would be seeking out Dory not just to make sure she's safe but to apologize.
Doug, your review is great, but I wish you'd put more thought into the reason certain plot points happened.
WiiGuy2014 maybe not pointless but it’s clearly rushed and forced... every chase scene in nemo had great set up and even tension going in... here they just go to a random place and a killer octopus is just there... it doesn’t flow as well as the rest of the movie
It made me look at finding Nemo different. It almost made this movie feel pre planned. One of the best sequels I've seen
"Whale friend" Uhh... no. A whale shark is not a whale, it is a shark. They are not mammals, they are fish.
not food......(sorry had to say it)
To be fair, even the movie largely treats her as a literal whale (which is kind of annoying)
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster nice reference I’m not even gonna reveal it but I know what is.
This one was pretty good. I could probably see why many people have forgotten about this sequel.
"Just Keep Swimming "
Nada-haremos.
Finding Nemo a story of loving over protective father physical trying to find his son by crossing the ocean while facing the threats of said ocean Finding Dory a story of someone going on a soul searching journey to find out who they are and where they came from while also finding their parents and dealing with their emotional and mental problems so it's not a bad sequel to one of my favorite animated films of all time.
I know some people see sequels as cynical cash grabs, but in some cases, genuine passion is really put into them. Finding Dory is such a film - it does slip into the "unnecessary sequel" territory, being that the story was wrapped up in Finding Nemo, and the franchise wasn't being set up to tell a continuing story, however Pixar still worked hard on it, and it really is an enjoyable film.
People always assume that a sequel is automatically made with money in mind, but that's why I actually take the time to actually listen to behind the scenes stuff as more often than not peoples baseless assumptions prove to be dead wrong about why a sequel was made. Dory was'nt made for money, Andrew Stanton saw the film in 3d since it's first release and felt her story was incomplete. Which it WAS in the first movie, Marlin and Nemo's stories were wrapped up but Dory was still a mystery. Now we got it and both movies together feel like one complete package paid off nicely with the end of Finding Dory.
DO HOMEWARD BOUND DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm waiting for that to happen!
Shadoooooooowwwww!
@@starzzzy22 dont remind me :'( i dont care how happy the ending is, that was so messed up to tease us like that
It took 2 years
Agreed. Though it can't beat the 1st one, I still love this movie :)
I actually really enjoyed this movie. I can't help tearing up when she was following the trail :(
I related so much to this movie! and I'm not even a fan of the first one, or find the characters that cute. But seeing Dori freeze and the portrayal of anxiety and panic attacks, really got me, I really really felt it because of my own anxiety disorder and how it doesn't let me live my life normally.
I'm dying to know what music he used for this, it's so pretty!
Just keep swimming
*Just keep swimming*
*_Just keep swimming_*
How original....Avery did it before you
Pixar's most underrated film, in my opinion. I personally prefer it over the first, it just hits to much harder and closer to me than Finding Nemo ever did.
I honestly liked this film better. It's a lot more relatable for me, plus I feel like the first film hits you over the head with its message a few times too many.
I didn't like Finding Nemo that much, so finding Dory didn't peak my interest, but I watched it and thought it was okay, probably wouldn't put it on by choice, but I could sit through it if I had too. But, I do really hope the NC reviews Frankenweenie, I want to see what he thinks of it! :)
Ok now you have to review Herbie: Fully Loaded.
He did in his 2013 disneycember
Ok, did NO ONE ELSE CRY at the scene with the lines of seashells??!?!?!?!? Am I really the only one that frickin' paused the movie to cry for a few minutes? Seriously, that scene hit me HARD! Harder than any of the other Pixar movies! Maybe bc it was one of the few emotional plot twists I didn't predict.
I honestly think they're both equally good films! They both have their strong points!
I honestly preferred this movie over Finding Nemo. I think its because I suffer from severe anxiety so I find this one more relatable.
I loved this sequel. Definitely would love to watch it more in the future.
Finding Nemo is my favorite movie in general and this is a brilliant sequel 😉
Im australian, and i think that that is the reason i didnt enjoy this movie as much as i couldve. I have never had that sense of under-representation before, but this film felt like such an american-ised version of a movie that was so close to my heart. It never occured to me that the reason i connected so much to finding nemo was because it was set in my own country. You do see australia in a lot of big budget movies as it is a major filming location, but always a sub-in for another location (the new york scene in thor ragnarok was filmed in Brisbane, my city) and never showcased as itself.
Wow, that was a tangent. These are just some thoughts that bugged me about finding dory and other big budget movies. Again, ive never been someone to feel under-represented, but this movie was the first to make me think about that
The film was made by an American company though? Either way, they leave the area where Nemo and Marlin live purposefully vague on purpose so they can travel to these places
@@xChijouChanx Nemo and Marlin's home is the Great Barrier Reef, a natural wonder off the coast of northern Queensland. They also travel dow the EAC with the turtles, which is a real current off of the entire east coast of Australia in order to get to Sydney Harbour. Yes, Pixar is and American company, but they made an incredible movie that showcases the natural wonder Australia has to offer, similar how they showcased Mexican culture in Coco. It was just a disappointment that they didnt keep the Australian roots in the sequel.
The scene where she finds her parents was so heart touching.
yeah I was a naysayer but when the reviews came in saying it was good I went to see it and I didn't regret it
Why doesn't this movie have a video-game?
I really need a sequel to the *_perfection_* that is Finding Nemo Ps2!
You can get it from Disney Infinity 3.0
i love this movie because i can relate to dory! i have adhd and its nice to see a character with a disability and it doesn't defy who she is. keep up the good work pixar!!!
While Finding Dory wasn't as good as Finding Nemo, I think it's an important movie to help kids deal with/tolerate mental illnesses.
Disney basically forced Pixar to make all these sequels. But Pixar is doing pretty ok.
This is that one movie that we don't need but deserved
If you have ever been a child with a disability, or a parent of a child with a disability, you will love Finding Dory!