This theory assumes that the "clouds" underneath the air nomads while flying in Wans time are purely a stylistic choice. Which I always believed it was as this flashback had tons of artistic changes. The lion turtle designs, airnmad arrows, etc...
No because if the early air nomads can fly because of no earth attachment they should be flying like Zandeer. But no, they are just using air bending at the end of their feet to lift them up. Just like in any history that doesn’t attain certain practice over time. I believe that the technique was lost in time as well.
My ancestors adopted a thing that helps them travel that's why we lost the ability to lose weight and they help them working. The animal: I have 4 legs and they ride me and they gave me armor and treat like a friend.
@TofuplantMango it was the episode where iroh asked the gang for help finding zuko after he got captured bu azula. Aang asked him for advice on how he'd left to save katara instead of mastering the avatar state.
It's a shame he made it up since they were making dense clouds to stand on and using them as primative air scooters. He literally showed them doing it in this clip idk why almost 3000 people are listening to him instead of using their gd eyes
@@charmedrools1 the thing though is that this show isnt very literal, that could be a stylistic choice. Like for one they're not water benders, no other airbender has bent clouds, a little critical thinking can break the argument down on both sides
@@izzyzoldyck7391 tell me you haven't watched the show without telling me. . "clouds are made up of water and air so between the two of us we should be able to bend them" Aang episode 4 (I think) of the first series. . Combined with the fact that every airbending move ever done in the show has a depiction of some kind of cloud EXCEPT from flight based abilities like flight and gliding, it puts the "artistic choice" argument straight into evidence for MY point and not to the original videos credit. . Bye felicia
@@jordanestes1997 Before humans learned to bend by observing animals, lion turtles gave humans the ability to bend the four elements by bending the energy within a person’s body, which is known as the art of Energybending.
@@Eryioh That explanation doesn't work here man, sorry. It's explicitly stated in ATLA that AIRBENDING was learned from the Bison; they were the first Airbenders. And in the LoK retcon, AIRBENDERS, (not energybenders) already had Airbending abilities and lost some of those abilities upon meeting the Bison and forming an attachment. So, which is it? 1. Flying Bison were the first Airbenders, humans learned Airbending from them. 2. Human Airbenders already had pure and perfect Airbending, and lost some of its purity and potency upon meeting the Flying Bison. Both statements cannot be true at the same time. LoK writing is shit and you shouldn't attempt to cram it into canon where it doesn't fit. Sorry not sorry.
@@DaveyKanabus If I already know some math, I can still learn math from someone...? Or, more accurately, I have the 4th kyu in karate. I'm three grades short of being a master. If someone would continue my training and teach me to that point, wouldn't that person have teached me karate? Wouldn't I have learned karate from them? *Anyone* can punch someone -but only few people can do *martial arts*, and no one really *can* do martial arts, y'know? Bending is more of a martial arts than a superpower, it requires constant training to learn. The benders had to come up with new techniques *eventually*, and they did it by learning from the animals.
@@TheeGemstone I said touching, not innocent. Love can be turned into hatred or uncontrolled fanaticism, just as how anger can be turned into determination and sorrow into happiness. Emotions are quite chaotic and difficult to comprehend, wouldn't you agree, my friend? After all, the love that you see is but a curse to you, while to others is a blessing. I ain't not at one side or the other, as for me love is but an experience.
@@earothefancy8144 I think they see my love for them as useful, it’s easy to exploit and manipulate a person who loves you. My curse has always been loving the the ungrateful. Imagine loving someone who doesn’t love you; that is a chain you don’t want to be shackled to
I wouldn't say they gave up flight. More like the next generation of benders got weaker and weaker. At some point they probably didn't even know airbenders in the past could fly independently. Like how we humans have lost of a lot of past knowledge. We still don't even know how they actually made the pyramids.
The most desired superpower is flight. Me and most would say the heck with that big puppy bison thing. People that truly value animals over people are unnatural and would want SkyBison.
@@piratekit39411: The air bison CAN FLY, imagine having a horse that can fly! 2:An Airbender can climb a 10 story tall building in less than 5 seconds and move as fast as a car, the trade off is not that bad.
@@h3was547okay valueing animals over people is one thing but valueing animals over the ability to fly is another It is obvious that you have never had a bond with an animal of any kind so you don't understand that flight isn't worth losing your pet
The entire style of Airbending has changed by Aang’s time. You can see it in their hand movements and the way it reacts to the world around them. Not just Airbending, but all of the bending arts changed over the course of Wan’s time to Aang’s time.
@@whenimmanicimgodly4228 They're actually making 3 new animated movies that follow the Aang gang's adventures between the end of Avatar and the beginning of Korra. Plus a new series about the next avatar after Korra is coming as well. It's gonna be an earth bender this time.
@@lonewolf124 That's not exactly a clear statement, since there are three distinct eras to talk about with regards to airbenders... Are you talking about the ones depicted here, the ones from Aang's time, or the ones that showed up after the harmonic convergence? I would say that there are notable differences between all three.
Unrelated but I met some of the Avatar cast a while back at a con and they were some of the nicest people I had ever met. Definitely worth meeting them if you get the chance.
@@codewizard0exactly, that's the point! all mastered forms of bending likely require to not have earthly attachments, and the avatar state is wholly disattached from the world, if not reality.
@@smolneko9294 but it's not. Korra easily went into the avatar state with 0 spiritual training. Most the time they go into the avatar state because of anger given to them by an attachment lol
I like to think that in the state of mind that allows you to fly, you need no one. Because all illumination and leaving all earthly bonds behind thing, but love is not something that you need.
I like to think that in the state of mind that allows you to fly, you need no one. Because all illumination and leaving all earthly bonds behind thing, but love is not something that you need. It is not that Zaheer is not special, is just that he overcame his grief, his sense of loss, his love for Pli, leave everything behind. Another example of a similar way of thinking is what Grand Master Yoda says to Anakin "Train your mind and rejoice for those who go back to the Force" That's what Zaheer does, and again, he does not denies his feelings, only let them go. Think about how Aang still loves Katara but his love is not anything that attaches him to the world.
@@RSorkin yeah I think it was explained in a Kyoshi novel. I don't really know what that technique is called but it makes sense that's how earthbenders and waterbenders would get airborne.
Aang uses his air scooter technique as a bubble around him while fighting the fire lord in the avatar state, it allows him the ability to fly without giving up attachments. That’s a very Aang shaped loophole
@@tristonayter78no he’s right the kids in korra do something similar even the monks in this clip are making little clouds to ride not actually flying homie was actually flying without bending air to push himself
It's flying in the same way that advanced firebenders could "fly" during Sozin's Comet or when empowered by the Avatar state (what Korra did). Yes you're indeed zooming through the air but it requires a ton of raw power and is hardly sustainable for long periods.
Airbenders are chill monks who use their airbending for peace...until you fuck with their sky bison, then they'll peacefully bend air into your bloodstream
The beautiful thing is that instead of relying on themselves to fly, they learned to find more balance by making meaningful connections, and now they help each where the other struggles. Aang searched high and low to rescue his buddy, and Appa likewise save Aang's life time and again.
@@Reav052I doubt they have the ability to fly either but if we take what you say serious they would probably look like a white Bison or Yak since those exist
@@Reav052 I mean, I have ample airspace. And cabbages and love. And how can you say they are hideous? Look at a baby, real life bison! Those things are freaking adorable
It also doesn't make any sense...the bisons and air nomads are basically tied from the start. They basically taught the nomads to bend in the first place. So what came first??
The thing that always bothered me though was that Zahir didn’t let go of his worldly attachments by choice. He only was able to fly after the woman he loved was taken from him.
To be fair, he gave up the opportunity to honor her life through mourning and process the loss. Pretty difficult thing to do all things considered. I get why it would bother you though because it seems awfully convenient right lmao but I can't imagine losing someone I'm invested in, and then just immediately deciding not to be bothered that they're gone. I mean I lost my bestfriend of more than a decade 2 years ago and if getting over that means I'd be able to fly, I'd honestly be stuck on Earth for the rest of my life. She was taken from him but he totally detached from the impact of her death. That's major.
You also need to remember they all belived in the same ideals. Additionally Zaheer self taught lived disciplined as an air nomad monk even before he gained bending. Meaning his realationship to emotions was always diffrent to your avarage passionate individual. So the greatest way to honor the woman he loved was to acomplish their mission. A fanatic idea taking tve biggest role in his head anyway. So he let go not just to fly, but it was the only way to win this. So its 3 things. -Honor his love and red lotus by acomplishing the mission. -Satisfy his own obsession of Guru lahima. And air bending. -Escape being pushed in a cornet and successfully abducting the Avatar. Made possible by a already,very detatched monk mindset, wich makes letting go much easiet to an avarage person.
That explains how Zahear was able to do it when he did, with his love dead he didn’t have much besides the rest of his team, so by accepting his love’s death and letting go of the rest of red lotus, he was able to let go of any attachments he had, and therefore fly.
Yeah but there's one thing that's always bothered me about Zaheer and that whole concept. He still wanted to end the Avatar cycle, that was his mission, his purpose. His duty which was a severe earthly attachment
I think it's something that is bigger than having air bison. It's the desire to love, to have bond & relationship with someone/something that they want to protect like friends and family.
It's been a while since I watched LoK but didn't the benders get their abilities from the Lion Turtles? And they would return the power when they were done using it. So maybe that's what happened. The nomads borrowed airbending from the Lion Turtles but later on actually learned airbending from the Sky Bison on their own, and that's why their abilities are incomplete, cuz they're attached to the bisons...? Hopefully that made sense..🙃
@sisiyah missing the point entirely. The lion turtle giving people the power to bend 100% contradicts the original, learned from the sky bison. What you wrote down is just retcon.
Wait didnt they explain in the first series that the air benders learned airbending from the original airbenders i.e. the sky bisons. I believe this was when they were helpping Zuko regain his firebending since he could longer use anger. So they were talking about the origin of fire bending. Katara mentions the moon, Toph mentions badger moles and Aang mentions sky bisons. So wouldn't that mean the Airbenders were already in contact with sky bisons before losing the ability to fly? I think it is more that they were in isolation and lived with less so there was less to let go. I also believed they mentioned a few higher up monks had that ability pre LoA over the generations as well such as the one that Zaheer studied about.
Or, they are just floating for a bit... Note how Wan never actually stayed that far off the ground... So modern air benders can still hover... So it's probably just a different style of hovering... We've only seen them hover, not fly....
@@TheDeathmail what does that have anything to do with what I pointed out. The video says they lost their ability to fly because sky bisons, but if sky bisons were the original airbending teachers that means they would need sky bisons first to learn airbending. This video implies airbenders knew how to air bend properly first and sky bisons appeared after. Sort of what came first the chicken or the egg. What Zaheer studied were ancient records of the air nation and believed that these ancient airbenders could fly, but was unsure if it was just a myth until his enlightenment. If the air benders in Wan's time only hovered and the ones Zaheer studied it can be assumed that they at some point learned to fly, but eventually lost that ability long before the start of LoA.
I think the Avatar Wan special just straight-up contradicts those origins. It establishes people getting their bending from Lion-Turtles, rather than any other natural source. Perhaps once people forgot about the Lion-Turtles, they invented a mythos about the bending coming from certain animals?
@@14bj337 I think it's half and half. The lion turtles could only GRANT bending, not teach it. People learned to MASTER the bending from the Moon, badgermoles, dragons and sky bison. It actually makes sense as Wan's firebending was very crude until studying with the dragons. He's actually shown performing the Dancing Dragon.
The difference is, which I’m surprised people still have to explain. They learned HOW to bend from the animals. Meaning the actual techniques, movements, and forms to perform bending actions. They RECEIVED the ability from the lion turtles. That’s where the ability to bend came from. If it came from animals like people suggest, you’d have to explain why everyone couldn’t just be a water bender by default since almost everyone had access to full moons and sources of water.
When your 'strength' is having nothing worth *living* for, it's not a strength, it's an empty shallow shell you're too scared to admit exists Having those Bison humanised them greatly
As long as your existence isn't a great change to the entire world as it should be, in the language of the universe, less is more. Having less therefore is more, but depends in the eyes of who. The eyes who sees destruction or the eyes who see growth (construction), Zahir was the eyes who seek destruction in this case, that's why he flied. But if you seek construction (growth) there will be no need for you to fly, because what you create will be helping you fly. These two opposite forces operate together and are driven by the same caster. The caster is you. The caster is all of us separately. Destruction is Selfish, Construction is can be both selfish and selfless.
.....No he doesnt he flies using air. Rewatch the final fight. He makes himself a tornado and flies around and then in avatar state he has a ball of air around him that allows him to fly. @@jaja2084
That and the fact fire benders can now just make fire out of thin air despite being shown in the original series that only the royal family could do it, with the only exception being during the comet arrival (which led to a funny thing in the first appearances of them in the south water tribe that when Aang escapes the boat's prision they shoot fireballs out ot their hands despite there being torches on the border of the boat LITERALLY FOR THAT EXACT REASON, to shoot fireballs from in case they needed to lmao)
Airbenders got the ability to bend the element from lion turtles sky bison just taught them how to properly use the elements kinda like how you can know how to play chess and not be good at it but you can be taught how to properly play by a master
@@Dumbo-zx7oc In the original, aang said the first Airbenders were the sky bison, in lok the lion turtles granted Airbenders ability to fly, so it's basically choose what you want to believe, I guess.
@@danielsterling3995 i considered it to be a slight retcon, the lion turtles only give them the ability, but they still learned from skybisons, like how earthbenders learned earthbending from badgermoles, firebenders from dragons, and waterbenders from the moon
@@danielsterling3995 Aang told the story though. Which means many generations didn't know about the Lion-Turtle. The tale he told was unverified oral history. The known in-universe lore about bending being passed down from the original benders/animals+celestial body makes little sense because if humans could simply learn bending from sky bison, dragons, badger moles, and the moon, then anyone can acquire bending abilities. Non-benders would not exist. In the same way, new firebenders still came into existence even after dragons long went into hiding, and not everyone comes into contact with badger moles. (Toph was a master at a young age because she learned directly from badger moles, but she didn't acquire the ability from them.)
@@luzmaya7787The first generation of benders learned from the beasts, and then passed it down human to human. Toph is an exception, not the rule, as most people don't venture deep enough and long enough to live and learn from the moles.
I really respect people who completely severe their earthly attachments and reach enlightenment. I certainly would not be able to do anything like that. However, i also really like how Avatar handled the idea of earthly attachments and how it could be the source of wisdom and strength as well. Aang not only is one with every living being but he also interacts with them, appreciates them and enjoys love. For some people this state is reached through severing those ties but for Aang it is by keeping those ties strong. It's such peaceful and accepting lesson. I love this show so much 😭
I feel like the lion turtles not only gave humans the power to bend but after they kept their bending, the animals (and the moon) were naturally in tune with the elements and helped humans perfect their abilities
Mustve been a retcon later in the series, in ATLA it was firmly stated that flying bison were the first airbenders, in the same way firebenders learned from dragons
Both can still be true. We see Wan doing the dragon dance with dragons. I see it as the lion turtles granting the ability to bend but the animals (and the moon) are what taught people how to properly bend the elements. Think of it like having legs but you still had to learn to walk and run.
It surprised me how much Korra changed and how much worse the original writers got. Not everyone gets more skilled with writing over time. It also confuses me how many people defend Korra lore lmfao- it's just ass, you can admit it..
True, but also they needed to get the power from the lion turtle to fly, so they could effectively pick up and put down their attachments when the lion turtle gave them the power of air. It's like being a happy, relaxed drunk when you only drink occasionally and out with friends. The moment you start mixing drinking with other less wholesome moments, you can start carrying negative feelings with you, and the joy of drinking is gone.
These air benders are not flying I don’t know how the person who made the video missed that. Wan used the same technique when fighting Vaatu but he still has emotional attachment which simply means that this technique is not flying. It’s probably just some lost advanced version of the air ball
Alternative theory: airbenders are shown to be really culty/closed off around the times of Aang, rejecting any outsider that shows interest in their culture or wants to become part of their nation, so maybe their "earthly attachment" is their iron grip on their traditions. Or it's their negative emotions towards "worldly" people. Buddhism teaches agains both hedonic pursue of this world of desire, and hateful ascetic rejection of it, so maybe the same principle applies to airbenders snd they won't truly be detached until they attain indifference
There's a difference between flying and using air to fly. The early airbender clearly used air to fly as you can see it on their feets. Aang and some past avatars and airbender used a tornado to fly while zaheer's flight is completely different
I like this theory, but I am not sure it is the complete truth. For starters, the way the ancient air benders flew is different from that guy from the red lotus, he is supermaning all over the place, while they were using a cloud like goku. I think this technique is more similar to Aang's air bubble, not complete weightlessness.
@@TheDeathmail There is a difference between Flight and Cloudbending. Flight needs detachment from Earthly tethers while Cloudbending is just a Sub form of Airbending.
Or, they are just floating for a bit... Note how Wan never actually stayed that far off the ground... So modern air benders can still hover... So it's probably just a different style of hovering... We've only seen them hover, not fly....
The problem with this theory is that the Sky Bison are said to be the original air benders so the very first human airbenders would've already had a connection to them since that's who they learned airbending from. But we'll just throw that up to another plothole created by LoK in "The Beginnings arc". It's really a shame that the 2 shows are pretty consistent on their own but they give so much plot holes to the other show especially with spirit world and bending origin stories. Really wish they kept it how ATLA set it up where they learned from a source and weren't gifted bending by Lion Turtles.
Exactly. I thought they couldn't fly bc they had to stop using their ability and hide during the genocide. Also, the early airbenders had no material or earthly attachments bc everyone they knew could also fly. AND side theory here: what if there's a society of airbenders who do live hidden in the clouds?
The bisons where the first airbenders. But that doesn't mean they're the one who thought them how to use air bending, bisons thought them how to utilize it better
they never had to get attached in order to learn how to airbend. They could've studied them without approaching the bisons. I think that way it would make way more sense.
I've never seen the merit behind this point. It's explained in the show with Wan. He gets the ability to control fire from the lion turtle. Then he learns fire bending as a martial art from the dragons. They show him doing the dancing dragon with the dragons. Then the hunters from his lion turtle say that Wan controls fire like nothing they've seen before, as if it's an extension of his body. So ALOK is entirely consistent with what was said in ATLA. Which is nice because they didn't need to be. After all Wan lived 10,000 years ago. How much of our own history do we know from 10k years ago? That's older than our first civilizations, which began approximately 6k years ago. They could have completely logically said 'oh well the truth was lost to history', but they didn't.
Only one of the many reasons why I would gladly become an Air Nomad... Ten-ton adorable flying monster. I've worked with cattle and beefalos. Appa is roughly 10 times the weight and several times the size of an actual Bison. So, i can empathize with how the Air Nomads saw the Sky Bison, a pure, powerful creature that embodied all the things which they were fond of and just... incorporated them into their lives. It all makes sense why, when he actually throws his weight around, Appa is destroying things... 25/10 creature, would still feed a basket of peaches, becsuse App is 1000% good boy.
Taught them how to bend/use it. The power itself was given to them by the lion turtles. Bending was very crude back then and only used for basic purposes (fire benders use fire so they could see at night, etc) Actual bending techniques weren't really a thing yet
I thought it was because of the first Avatar, Avatar Wan, separated the spirit world from the natural world, while also combining the scattered human colonies, therefore kickstarting The Four Great Nations. As such, the Air Nomads finally gained the concept of earthly attachments because before then, there was no reason to have attachments whenever your entire world and reality was only limited on the back of an Air Lion-Turtle in the mountains. However, you theory is also plausible. The only issue I have with it is the fact the Sky Bison where the second and “earthly” masters and teachers of Air Bending for the Air Nomads, after the Lion-Turtles respectfully departed and bestowed the original knowledge of Elemental Bending to the humans. As such, the Sky Bison should spiritually be metaphysically aligned with Air Bending culture, which means the denouncing and renouncing of earthly possessions. But a simply lore change or elaboration can fix that.
@@shuaty it also screws up any suspense in the LOTS of moments Aang falls from high distances without his glider. Done so in the first episode right after showing aang flying around. I was like "Go on bro, whats the problem?"
My biggest problem with the ATLA Live action (I’m only 2 episodes in) is that Aang is shown flying or gliding without a glider in the first 5 mins of the show. I knew that airbenders are supposed to give up their earthly attachments and was disappointed they didn’t keep that.
Great spirit of wisdom: You must choose. Between flying, and companionship with this adorable fluffy creature. Air nomad: That’s not a choice, that’s an introduction.
@@tubeguy4066 the lion turtles gave the ability to bend to people. Watch Legend of Korra for that news. The sky bison only taught the airbenders to use it as an extension of themselves.
@@brenndanmcdonaugh1672 your right and wrong at the same time have a look at toph’s backstory on how she was taught how to earth bend the turtles merely gave them the ability to and help the avatar maintain control
Cloudbending is actually an art pretty close to the Air Scooter. It acts like Goku's Flying Ninbus. This art is different from Zaheers' unrestricted flight as it doesn't require any sort of platform like the clouds or airscooters due.
You explained something that I was trying verbalize ! I AGREE. zaheers technique is different as he didn't require any sort of vehicle. He was able to manipulate the air around him giving him a free range of motion not dependent on anything.
@@joesunday199cloud bending can still be considered flight if they can fly ON the cloud. Sure, it's not direct flight, but it'd be a form of flight. Flying with a tool or technique is still flying... We are considered flying even if we fly ON a plane... My issue is that they haven't been shown flying, just hovering....
If anything, it shows that being able to fly is really just a state of mind. The nomads believed the cause and effect. The bison had no such proclivity.
That's not how that works at all. It is shown plenty of times in the show that the bisons do care. The ability to fly is learned in different ways. Animals in the avatar world learn through their biology. Humans learn from their bending
I assumed that when the lions turtles stopped providing temporary bending and ppl had to learn to fend for themselves is when the Airbenders learned to Airbender from the bison.
the air benders LEARNED from the sky bison they got the ability to bend from the lion turtle being able to bend is a lot different from knowing how to properly bend.
i’m not so sure about this purely because the sky bisons are what taught people to airbend as Aang stated when trying to figure out how Zuko can bend without relying on rage, so they would’ve had to have already met and befriended them
Zaheer's ability to fly was a detachment to earth - freedom "like" air but the ability to be weightless. Airbenders ability to "fly" was still achieved with "air" the element. They were given the ability to use air and they use air to "fly" This is similar to Jinora's spirit projection. She transcends the third dimensional limits and becomes limitless. Her airbending knowledge helps, but it's her ability to detach that is key. Edit: just to clarify, yes the ability to become weightlessness and the ability to fly are very similar, but one is not affected by gravity. As Guru Pathik one said, the elements are merely an illusion. They do the same thing. They bend reality. This is what Zaheer is doing by believing he is completely detached to materialism.
This theory assumes that the "clouds" underneath the air nomads while flying in Wans time are purely a stylistic choice.
Which I always believed it was as this flashback had tons of artistic changes. The lion turtle designs, airnmad arrows, etc...
I thought the tattoos were just different back then and it slowly got simplified over time
No because if the early air nomads can fly because of no earth attachment they should be flying like Zandeer. But no, they are just using air bending at the end of their feet to lift them up. Just like in any history that doesn’t attain certain practice over time. I believe that the technique was lost in time as well.
Yep that make it make sense 💯
Pretty sure the clouds are a literal thing. Reference to the cloud summersault of sun wukong.
YOU WILL NOT FRICKING GASLIGHT ME INTO THIS AVATARIST YOUR THEORY IS STUPID >:PPP
As Tenzin said, “Who doesn’t want a sky bison as a friend?”
There are two types of people. Those that want a sky bison as a friend and crazy people.
@the-guy_who_asked guess I'm crazy then. Gave up the ability to fly, just to ride something that can fly.. counter productive if you ask me.
@@slippyquack7672No no no, something that can fly and eat all your enemyes.
@cristalgaming8923 I'd still prefer the ability to fly myself, and use air bending to deal with my enemies rather than have something eat them.
@@slippyquack7672 Where will you hide the bodyes than.
Appa literally had the entire show on his back
Appa singlehandedly carried Team Avatar throughout their journey.
Underrated comment 😂
Nahhh this comment is gold 😂
Appa is my favorite ❤
What... is it appa? I thought his name was changed
"You muzzled Appa?!"
That's when everything around the air bender started flying
My fav scene of aang
"TELL ME WHERE APPA IS!"
“So anyways I started blasting”
I was heartbroken when I heard that.
That’s avatar stuff it doesn’t count.
“It was a wise choice of you to choose love and compassion over power and strength.” -Iroh
Actually, it's power & so-called perfectionism are so overrated!
@@zshah3107 Kyoshi.: 🙂↔️ no
"TELL ME WERE APPA IS!" - A seriously pissed off Airbender in the Avatar state.
Said Aang calmly
i remember when i was watching the show with my boyfriend he got so mad about appa too. he couldn’t rest until he saw that appa was safe
Now it makes sense why Aang when Ape Shit
Watched this scene yesterday
@@KalidreamineI don't blame him. Wanted Appa safe myself or at least hoped he was.
"...bro, but you lost your powe-"
"Don't care. Have you look at this cute thing? Its worth it! They can fly too, so who cares?"
The airbenders really where a peaceful nation
Absolutely ❤
My ancestors adopted a thing that helps them travel that's why we lost the ability to lose weight and they help them working.
The animal: I have 4 legs and they ride me and they gave me armor and treat like a friend.
Also, the air nomads seemed to have learned airbending from the sky bison
That's not the full picture, if this were a true, then bidons shouldn't be able to fly too.
Iroh said it best,"perfection and power are overrated, i think you are wise to choose love"
Do you mind sharing which episode he said this?
@@TofuplantMango It's from 'Crossroads of Destiny' I think
@TofuplantMango it was the episode where iroh asked the gang for help finding zuko after he got captured bu azula. Aang asked him for advice on how he'd left to save katara instead of mastering the avatar state.
@TofuplantMango the last episode of book 2 I think 🤔
@@imandaml2953 wow thank you so much! I appreciate how detailed you are
"You lost your ability to fly?"
"Yip!"
😂❤
More like "You lost your ability to fly."
"Did I though??...I can still fly, I just do it on this fluffy thing."
You forgot the other yip. Add a third if you’re ballsy
"Hip-hip" And fly away from that loser
😂😂
That's a really wholesome fact
It's a shame he made it up since they were making dense clouds to stand on and using them as primative air scooters. He literally showed them doing it in this clip idk why almost 3000 people are listening to him instead of using their gd eyes
@@charmedrools1 I mean even with what is shown isn’t it a fact that they can’t fly anymore?
@@didybopintitys they can't fly though? They could never fly? The VERY VERY FEW that could were literally once every dozen generations
@@charmedrools1 the thing though is that this show isnt very literal, that could be a stylistic choice. Like for one they're not water benders, no other airbender has bent clouds, a little critical thinking can break the argument down on both sides
@@izzyzoldyck7391 tell me you haven't watched the show without telling me.
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"clouds are made up of water and air so between the two of us we should be able to bend them" Aang episode 4 (I think) of the first series.
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Combined with the fact that every airbending move ever done in the show has a depiction of some kind of cloud EXCEPT from flight based abilities like flight and gliding, it puts the "artistic choice" argument straight into evidence for MY point and not to the original videos credit.
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Bye felicia
“Dude you just lost your powers.”
“DON'T CARE, FLUFFY BISON!”
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Yo
I love Fluffy Bison’s ❤😊
Basically, airbenders could not give up their air puppies
Can you blame them tho
@wally_west. I would go to war with north korea for my own sky bison, so I understand the grind completely 😂
A logical argument indeed
@@onigiri2032okay so it’s not just me that would do the same LMAO
@@onigiri2032especially in Aang’s case where Appa was the last known sky bison in the world. There was no choice but to tear everything down
Ain’t the sky bisons the ones that taught the air benders
In the original show. Idk why they changed shit in korra
@@jordanestes1997 Before humans learned to bend by observing animals, lion turtles gave humans the ability to bend the four elements by bending the energy within a person’s body, which is known as the art of Energybending.
@@Eryioh That explanation doesn't work here man, sorry.
It's explicitly stated in ATLA that AIRBENDING was learned from the Bison; they were the first Airbenders.
And in the LoK retcon, AIRBENDERS, (not energybenders) already had Airbending abilities and lost some of those abilities upon meeting the Bison and forming an attachment.
So, which is it?
1. Flying Bison were the first Airbenders, humans learned Airbending from them.
2. Human Airbenders already had pure and perfect Airbending, and lost some of its purity and potency upon meeting the Flying Bison.
Both statements cannot be true at the same time.
LoK writing is shit and you shouldn't attempt to cram it into canon where it doesn't fit. Sorry not sorry.
@@DaveyKanabus Completely agree, LoK retcon is trash
@@DaveyKanabus If I already know some math, I can still learn math from someone...?
Or, more accurately, I have the 4th kyu in karate. I'm three grades short of being a master. If someone would continue my training and teach me to that point, wouldn't that person have teached me karate? Wouldn't I have learned karate from them? *Anyone* can punch someone -but only few people can do *martial arts*, and no one really *can* do martial arts, y'know?
Bending is more of a martial arts than a superpower, it requires constant training to learn. The benders had to come up with new techniques *eventually*, and they did it by learning from the animals.
To be tied by chains for the love you have towards someone or something is a really touching concept
It really isn’t and it’s one of the reasons why there is so much suffering in the world
@@TheeGemstone I said touching, not innocent. Love can be turned into hatred or uncontrolled fanaticism, just as how anger can be turned into determination and sorrow into happiness. Emotions are quite chaotic and difficult to comprehend, wouldn't you agree, my friend? After all, the love that you see is but a curse to you, while to others is a blessing. I ain't not at one side or the other, as for me love is but an experience.
@@earothefancy8144 I think they see my love for them as useful, it’s easy to exploit and manipulate a person who loves you. My curse has always been loving the the ungrateful. Imagine loving someone who doesn’t love you; that is a chain you don’t want to be shackled to
@@earothefancy8144i hope u have a good day wise one
@@earothefancy8144especially when love at it's core is also sacrifice
They gave up flight for a friend. 1000% worth the trade off.
I mean
Their friend can fly
So Yknow
Win-Win situation
Well they are friend shaped
That’s some Iroh level wisdom right there. For real, I almost read this in his voice.
I wouldn't say they gave up flight. More like the next generation of benders got weaker and weaker. At some point they probably didn't even know airbenders in the past could fly independently. Like how we humans have lost of a lot of past knowledge. We still don't even know how they actually made the pyramids.
@@madhatten00they earthbend them duhhh
Cant blame them i would be attached to them aswel just most wholesome animal ever
Ask any pet owner if they would give up the pet for the ability to fly and they would probably flip you off too.
I'll take a flying cow any time.
The most desired superpower is flight.
Me and most would say the heck with that big puppy bison thing. People that truly value animals over people are unnatural and would want SkyBison.
@@piratekit39411: The air bison CAN FLY, imagine having a horse that can fly!
2:An Airbender can climb a 10 story tall building in less than 5 seconds and move as fast as a car, the trade off is not that bad.
@@h3was547okay valueing animals over people is one thing but valueing animals over the ability to fly is another
It is obvious that you have never had a bond with an animal of any kind so you don't understand that flight isn't worth losing your pet
“Perfection and power are overrated. I think you are very wise to choose happiness and love”
Tell that to Guru Laghima
Maybe their ability to fly really was the friends they made along the way.
😂😂😂
The point of the theory is the opposite lmao
You win bro😂😂😂
LMAO, nice
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHEER
The entire style of Airbending has changed by Aang’s time. You can see it in their hand movements and the way it reacts to the world around them. Not just Airbending, but all of the bending arts changed over the course of Wan’s time to Aang’s time.
Exactly. It’s just natural that over time certain practice aren’t retained
@@flawlessvictory6470 It’s just like martial arts in our real world.
As it would naturally. I loved this series growing up. Wish they continued it
@@whenimmanicimgodly4228 They're actually making 3 new animated movies that follow the Aang gang's adventures between the end of Avatar and the beginning of Korra. Plus a new series about the next avatar after Korra is coming as well. It's gonna be an earth bender this time.
@@wambamthankumam idc about legend of Korra they should have just stuck with avatar the Last Airbender and continued that
That loop was too clean had me in a genjutsu
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro same
Same
Me too.
Damn sucks to be Kabuto
As Firelord Ozai said: "I am a Jedi, like my father before me."
Help me Take That mask off
“Fuck with Appa you get the Glocka”
-Uncle Iroh
Probably
-Sokka
Nah, Aang was on bumpers when Appa was taken.
Coming to Fortnite soon!
@@GhettoJohnWickaang was out for blood for a third of the 2nd season he had no chill
"If I must leave this skybison in order to fly, then I don't want to fly."
We lost the ability to fly... by liking bison that can fly
Unfortunate, but convenient
The early air benders were much stronger than new generation airbenders
@@lonewolf124 That's not exactly a clear statement, since there are three distinct eras to talk about with regards to airbenders... Are you talking about the ones depicted here, the ones from Aang's time, or the ones that showed up after the harmonic convergence? I would say that there are notable differences between all three.
@@lonewolf124whats the point though? They lose that powers the moment they get angry since being angry is an earthly emotion.
They lost an ability but gained a friend 🧡
They lost the ability to fly because they learned how to love. Poetic in a way
And zaheer loves pli
@@chrisnapradanahe let go of his attachement and love for her to be able to fly
only once she died@@emilietomczak7110
@@emilietomczak7110 he didnt let go his love tho
@@chrisnapradanaI think he still love her, but I think to be able to fly you also need to be more spiritual.
Sacrificing an op ability just to befriend a cute animal is the most airbender thing ever 😂
Unrelated but I met some of the Avatar cast a while back at a con and they were some of the nicest people I had ever met. Definitely worth meeting them if you get the chance.
Like who if you can remember?
@@TheEnigmaticBM39 I think it was Jennie Kwan, Dante Bosco and Cricket Leigh.
I've heard Azula's VA is a perfect fit for the character. She's a crazy f*ck, albeit a non dangerous one.
@@Burn_Angelfrom what I’ve seen that’s a perfect description
Zaheer was the 1st airbander to regain the ability to fly after many centuries
It’s also interesting that when aang entered the avatar state in the earth kingdom, he left all earthly attachments behind and he was able to fly
He can always fly in the avatar state
@@codewizard0exactly, that's the point! all mastered forms of bending likely require to not have earthly attachments, and the avatar state is wholly disattached from the world, if not reality.
@@smolneko9294 but it's not. Korra easily went into the avatar state with 0 spiritual training. Most the time they go into the avatar state because of anger given to them by an attachment lol
@@codewizard0because korra is ass
He becomes powerful enough to create an air bubble to keep himself in the air. He’s not really flying
"Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind."
- Guru Laghima
Flow like the leaf
Wasn’t it Guru Ligma?
@@tylerguizon3351U NEED TO LEAVE !!! 😂😂😂
@@alwandemthethwa7594 ligma balls
Kill your bison. Now fly towards the sun.
That’s so wholesome 😭❤️ basically zaheer isn’t special he just has no one 💀
He HAD someone
YE and thats mind blowing@@Vugtis_El_VillaVODS
You mean to say i can fly too?
I like to think that in the state of mind that allows you to fly, you need no one. Because all illumination and leaving all earthly bonds behind thing, but love is not something that you need.
I like to think that in the state of mind that allows you to fly, you need no one. Because all illumination and leaving all earthly bonds behind thing, but love is not something that you need. It is not that Zaheer is not special, is just that he overcame his grief, his sense of loss, his love for Pli, leave everything behind. Another example of a similar way of thinking is what Grand Master Yoda says to Anakin "Train your mind and rejoice for those who go back to the Force" That's what Zaheer does, and again, he does not denies his feelings, only let them go.
Think about how Aang still loves Katara but his love is not anything that attaches him to the world.
“They attached themselves to the Sky Bison, an ‘earthly’ attachment, so they couldn’t fly anymore.”
…But the sky bison fly… the bison fly…
I still like how Fire Bender is able to fly using some kind of Jet engine power
And hypothetically both earth and water benders should be able to fly, though not for long
@@RSorkinby using their elements like stepping stones?
@@youtubecommentergal4346 No, using the rocks kinda like nimbus
@@RSorkin yeah I think it was explained in a Kyoshi novel. I don't really know what that technique is called but it makes sense that's how earthbenders and waterbenders would get airborne.
@@RSorkinlike mercenary Tao
Aang uses his air scooter technique as a bubble around him while fighting the fire lord in the avatar state, it allows him the ability to fly without giving up attachments. That’s a very Aang shaped loophole
he was still using the elements to send him in different directions. It’s not technically flying
@@bengarcia91You seem fun at parties
@@tristonayter78no he’s right the kids in korra do something similar even the monks in this clip are making little clouds to ride not actually flying homie was actually flying without bending air to push himself
It's flying in the same way that advanced firebenders could "fly" during Sozin's Comet or when empowered by the Avatar state (what Korra did).
Yes you're indeed zooming through the air but it requires a ton of raw power and is hardly sustainable for long periods.
You slow?@@tristonayter78
Airbenders are chill monks who use their airbending for peace...until you fuck with their sky bison, then they'll peacefully bend air into your bloodstream
Monk Gyatso peacefully laying out 20 Fire Nation soldiers before going down:
Airbenders back then
Flying: mandatory
Fluffy flying pets: optional
Airbenders presently:
Flying: optional
Fluffy flying pets: mandatory
The beautiful thing is that instead of relying on themselves to fly, they learned to find more balance by making meaningful connections, and now they help each where the other struggles. Aang searched high and low to rescue his buddy, and Appa likewise save Aang's life time and again.
I mean, I would absolutely sacrifice the ability to fly for an adorable sky bison puppy
No way those things are probably hideous in real life plus how are you gonna take care of it
@@Reav052I doubt they have the ability to fly either but if we take what you say serious they would probably look like a white Bison or Yak since those exist
@@Reav052 I mean, I have ample airspace. And cabbages and love. And how can you say they are hideous? Look at a baby, real life bison! Those things are freaking adorable
Instead of flying up there alone, they now have a forever friend who will help them with that part 💜 now they fly together
Zaheer and Guru Laghima on another level
those airbenders be like
i lost my power
but i gained a friend
edit: wtf. 1.4k likes??!! yet, 1 comment??? is this real?
U also lost ur grammar
In the words of Vin Diesel: FAMILY
Now you have 3 comments sir
@@abrahamd2002 thanks
That's really wholesome
It also doesn't make any sense...the bisons and air nomads are basically tied from the start. They basically taught the nomads to bend in the first place. So what came first??
@@chmchnTlok broke Atla lore
The thing that always bothered me though was that Zahir didn’t let go of his worldly attachments by choice. He only was able to fly after the woman he loved was taken from him.
To be fair, he gave up the opportunity to honor her life through mourning and process the loss. Pretty difficult thing to do all things considered.
I get why it would bother you though because it seems awfully convenient right lmao but I can't imagine losing someone I'm invested in, and then just immediately deciding not to be bothered that they're gone. I mean I lost my bestfriend of more than a decade 2 years ago and if getting over that means I'd be able to fly, I'd honestly be stuck on Earth for the rest of my life. She was taken from him but he totally detached from the impact of her death. That's major.
It was the only thing that chained him to the ground. It makes a lot of sense.
@@austinjrb to be fair, who would let go of tall punk fire-bending mommy that can bend you?
You also need to remember they all belived in the same ideals.
Additionally Zaheer self taught lived disciplined as an air nomad monk even before he gained bending. Meaning his realationship to emotions was always diffrent to your avarage passionate individual.
So the greatest way to honor the woman he loved was to acomplish their mission. A fanatic idea taking tve biggest role in his head anyway.
So he let go not just to fly, but it was the only way to win this.
So its 3 things.
-Honor his love and red lotus by acomplishing the mission.
-Satisfy his own obsession of Guru lahima. And air bending.
-Escape being pushed in a cornet and successfully abducting the Avatar.
Made possible by a already,very detatched monk mindset, wich makes letting go much easiet to an avarage person.
Why would that bother someone, it's actually a good written plot point
Such is the only drawback of floating marshmallow friend.
That explains how Zahear was able to do it when he did, with his love dead he didn’t have much besides the rest of his team, so by accepting his love’s death and letting go of the rest of red lotus, he was able to let go of any attachments he had, and therefore fly.
oh word?
Wow, groundbreaking, who would’ve thought
Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Especially since Zaheer first flew mere moments after P'Li died, taking away his last earthly attachment
Thank you Captain Obvious
Yeah but there's one thing that's always bothered me about Zaheer and that whole concept. He still wanted to end the Avatar cycle, that was his mission, his purpose. His duty which was a severe earthly attachment
Dark twist: The Sky Bison have no worldly attachments, meaning they don't care about you.
Damn 🤧
Lmao
Facts
that's deep
I think it's something that is bigger than having air bison.
It's the desire to love, to have bond & relationship with someone/something that they want to protect like friends and family.
...yes that is the point
The problem with this theory is that the Airbenders were taught how to airbend by the sky bison
Yep, LoK ruined the canon
Facts was just about to comment this
I thinks it only applies to 'New' Airbenders. i dont see any problem with the theory if the old benders didnt learn from sky bisons.
It's been a while since I watched LoK but didn't the benders get their abilities from the Lion Turtles? And they would return the power when they were done using it. So maybe that's what happened. The nomads borrowed airbending from the Lion Turtles but later on actually learned airbending from the Sky Bison on their own, and that's why their abilities are incomplete, cuz they're attached to the bisons...?
Hopefully that made sense..🙃
@sisiyah missing the point entirely. The lion turtle giving people the power to bend 100% contradicts the original, learned from the sky bison. What you wrote down is just retcon.
Mans dropped the cleanest loop ever and thought we wouldn't notice
*it really is tho*
"... which is why-" is the most default way of looping shorts what are u talking about
@@salvadorluna6453 so look, what you do is you cut one shot in half and just throw the 2nd half at the beginning of the video
@@salvadorluna6453 oh okay
It's a pretty obvious loop.
They even changed their tattoos. Back then they resembled Raava and Vaatu, but since both disappeared, the airbenders just moved on.
Wait didnt they explain in the first series that the air benders learned airbending from the original airbenders i.e. the sky bisons. I believe this was when they were helpping Zuko regain his firebending since he could longer use anger. So they were talking about the origin of fire bending. Katara mentions the moon, Toph mentions badger moles and Aang mentions sky bisons.
So wouldn't that mean the Airbenders were already in contact with sky bisons before losing the ability to fly?
I think it is more that they were in isolation and lived with less so there was less to let go. I also believed they mentioned a few higher up monks had that ability pre LoA over the generations as well such as the one that Zaheer studied about.
Or, they are just floating for a bit...
Note how Wan never actually stayed that far off the ground...
So modern air benders can still hover...
So it's probably just a different style of hovering...
We've only seen them hover, not fly....
@@TheDeathmail what does that have anything to do with what I pointed out. The video says they lost their ability to fly because sky bisons, but if sky bisons were the original airbending teachers that means they would need sky bisons first to learn airbending. This video implies airbenders knew how to air bend properly first and sky bisons appeared after. Sort of what came first the chicken or the egg.
What Zaheer studied were ancient records of the air nation and believed that these ancient airbenders could fly, but was unsure if it was just a myth until his enlightenment. If the air benders in Wan's time only hovered and the ones Zaheer studied it can be assumed that they at some point learned to fly, but eventually lost that ability long before the start of LoA.
I think the Avatar Wan special just straight-up contradicts those origins. It establishes people getting their bending from Lion-Turtles, rather than any other natural source. Perhaps once people forgot about the Lion-Turtles, they invented a mythos about the bending coming from certain animals?
@@14bj337 I think it's half and half. The lion turtles could only GRANT bending, not teach it. People learned to MASTER the bending from the Moon, badgermoles, dragons and sky bison. It actually makes sense as Wan's firebending was very crude until studying with the dragons. He's actually shown performing the Dancing Dragon.
The difference is, which I’m surprised people still have to explain.
They learned HOW to bend from the animals. Meaning the actual techniques, movements, and forms to perform bending actions.
They RECEIVED the ability from the lion turtles. That’s where the ability to bend came from.
If it came from animals like people suggest, you’d have to explain why everyone couldn’t just be a water bender by default since almost everyone had access to full moons and sources of water.
Monk: no earthly attachments
Sky bison:
Monk: one earthly attachment
When your 'strength' is having nothing worth *living* for, it's not a strength, it's an empty shallow shell you're too scared to admit exists
Having those Bison humanised them greatly
As long as your existence isn't a great change to the entire world as it should be, in the language of the universe, less is more. Having less therefore is more, but depends in the eyes of who. The eyes who sees destruction or the eyes who see growth (construction), Zahir was the eyes who seek destruction in this case, that's why he flied. But if you seek construction (growth) there will be no need for you to fly, because what you create will be helping you fly. These two opposite forces operate together and are driven by the same caster. The caster is you. The caster is all of us separately. Destruction is Selfish, Construction is can be both selfish and selfless.
This show is so subtly spiritual. Makes sense
“Why would you abandon your ability to fly, it doesn’t make any se-“
“Friend :)”
This implies that if Aang had finished Guru Pathik's training he would be able to fly.
He literally flies in the avatar state
No cus he is the Avatar and his duties are to the world, so he cannot let go of all his earthy tethers.
@@johndough535because he uses past knowledge of other avatars while I'm avatar state
He flies using fire like the Firelord. Zaheer does it purely
.....No he doesnt he flies using air. Rewatch the final fight. He makes himself a tornado and flies around and then in avatar state he has a ball of air around him that allows him to fly. @@jaja2084
"Bruh, you cant fly and also have a flying pet to ride...thats OP"
-God
"Do you love me?"
"of course I do, I need to go get some stuff ill be back"
**starts fucking flying**
Guru Laghimi rolling in his grave once he watched the Netflix liveaction
One of my biggest issues with it
@@Holdthetomatoesplzno one flies in the live action, yall are so dumb
That and the fact fire benders can now just make fire out of thin air despite being shown in the original series that only the royal family could do it, with the only exception being during the comet arrival (which led to a funny thing in the first appearances of them in the south water tribe that when Aang escapes the boat's prision they shoot fireballs out ot their hands despite there being torches on the border of the boat LITERALLY FOR THAT EXACT REASON, to shoot fireballs from in case they needed to lmao)
Even the movie which was a piece of shit got that right lmao
I actually liked it, stop crying
"you MUZZLED APPA!!!?"
you know the glowing tattoos are next.
Somewhere out there is an airbender who's only reason for not being able to fly is their love for chicken mcnuggies.
I think that’s a perfectly fair trade off them sky bisons loyal asf and beautiful ash I want one
It's even more amazing since the bison themselves can fly so it's like they lost a piece but gained another piece that fits the hole
This theory sort of falls apart when you remember that the airbenders learned how to bend from the flying bison…
Airbenders got the ability to bend the element from lion turtles sky bison just taught them how to properly use the elements kinda like how you can know how to play chess and not be good at it but you can be taught how to properly play by a master
@@Dumbo-zx7oc In the original, aang said the first Airbenders were the sky bison, in lok the lion turtles granted Airbenders ability to fly, so it's basically choose what you want to believe, I guess.
@@danielsterling3995 i considered it to be a slight retcon, the lion turtles only give them the ability, but they still learned from skybisons, like how earthbenders learned earthbending from badgermoles, firebenders from dragons, and waterbenders from the moon
@@danielsterling3995 Aang told the story though. Which means many generations didn't know about the Lion-Turtle. The tale he told was unverified oral history.
The known in-universe lore about bending being passed down from the original benders/animals+celestial body makes little sense because if humans could simply learn bending from sky bison, dragons, badger moles, and the moon, then anyone can acquire bending abilities. Non-benders would not exist. In the same way, new firebenders still came into existence even after dragons long went into hiding, and not everyone comes into contact with badger moles. (Toph was a master at a young age because she learned directly from badger moles, but she didn't acquire the ability from them.)
@@luzmaya7787The first generation of benders learned from the beasts, and then passed it down human to human.
Toph is an exception, not the rule, as most people don't venture deep enough and long enough to live and learn from the moles.
I really respect people who completely severe their earthly attachments and reach enlightenment. I certainly would not be able to do anything like that. However, i also really like how Avatar handled the idea of earthly attachments and how it could be the source of wisdom and strength as well. Aang not only is one with every living being but he also interacts with them, appreciates them and enjoys love. For some people this state is reached through severing those ties but for Aang it is by keeping those ties strong. It's such peaceful and accepting lesson. I love this show so much 😭
I thought the air benders learned to bend from watching the bison though?
In short, When you have nothing to lose Nothing can bring you down to knees. 😅
I feel like the lion turtles not only gave humans the power to bend but after they kept their bending, the animals (and the moon) were naturally in tune with the elements and helped humans perfect their abilities
"In the Era before the avatar we bent not the elements but the energy within ourselves"
Mustve been a retcon later in the series, in ATLA it was firmly stated that flying bison were the first airbenders, in the same way firebenders learned from dragons
That was legit my first thought, glad to see someone else remembered that from ATLA
Both can still be true. We see Wan doing the dragon dance with dragons. I see it as the lion turtles granting the ability to bend but the animals (and the moon) are what taught people how to properly bend the elements. Think of it like having legs but you still had to learn to walk and run.
Short meant to say early human airbenders. The earth benders learnt from badgermoles too.
It surprised me how much Korra changed and how much worse the original writers got. Not everyone gets more skilled with writing over time.
It also confuses me how many people defend Korra lore lmfao- it's just ass, you can admit it..
@PapiBlackarot sure, but if we learned how to bend from the sky bison... how does this theory work?
Talking about legend of Korra like it’s cannon is just revealing your ineptitude
New airbenders redesign in outfit was a genius way to emulate the power of flight more fully
True, but also they needed to get the power from the lion turtle to fly, so they could effectively pick up and put down their attachments when the lion turtle gave them the power of air. It's like being a happy, relaxed drunk when you only drink occasionally and out with friends. The moment you start mixing drinking with other less wholesome moments, you can start carrying negative feelings with you, and the joy of drinking is gone.
They literally said in LoK that only Guru Laghima was the only Airbender who unlocked weightlessness and became untethered to the ground.
If only they could explain this
These air benders are not flying
I don’t know how the person who made the video missed that.
Wan used the same technique when fighting Vaatu but he still has emotional attachment which simply means that this technique is not flying.
It’s probably just some lost advanced version of the air ball
They studied under the avatar equivalent of sun wukong.
He must have hated animals. 😭
Alternative theory: airbenders are shown to be really culty/closed off around the times of Aang, rejecting any outsider that shows interest in their culture or wants to become part of their nation, so maybe their "earthly attachment" is their iron grip on their traditions.
Or it's their negative emotions towards "worldly" people. Buddhism teaches agains both hedonic pursue of this world of desire, and hateful ascetic rejection of it, so maybe the same principle applies to airbenders snd they won't truly be detached until they attain indifference
perfectly explains until you think about it
it doesn't make sense that they can airbend but can't fly
There's a difference between flying and using air to fly. The early airbender clearly used air to fly as you can see it on their feets. Aang and some past avatars and airbender used a tornado to fly while zaheer's flight is completely different
Fr he legit just floats
Exactly
I like this theory, but I am not sure it is the complete truth. For starters, the way the ancient air benders flew is different from that guy from the red lotus, he is supermaning all over the place, while they were using a cloud like goku. I think this technique is more similar to Aang's air bubble, not complete weightlessness.
This is Cloudbending.
@@joesunday199So what???
If they fly, they fly.... cloud bending can still be a form of flight...
but they aren't flying, they were gliding...
@@TheDeathmail There is a difference between Flight and Cloudbending. Flight needs detachment from Earthly tethers while Cloudbending is just a Sub form of Airbending.
Its not a lost ability, its just lost technique. If they let go of earthly attachments then they regain the ability. They just choose not to
Or, they are just floating for a bit...
Note how Wan never actually stayed that far off the ground...
So modern air benders can still hover...
So it's probably just a different style of hovering...
We've only seen them hover, not fly....
@@TheDeathmailThank goodness
Someone else noticed that they were not actually flying
OMG !! This completely blew my mind you’re Amazing !!!! And it’s so suitable.
What a great detail found. ❤️
Imagine losing the ability to fly because you found your best friend
The problem with this theory is that the Sky Bison are said to be the original air benders so the very first human airbenders would've already had a connection to them since that's who they learned airbending from. But we'll just throw that up to another plothole created by LoK in "The Beginnings arc". It's really a shame that the 2 shows are pretty consistent on their own but they give so much plot holes to the other show especially with spirit world and bending origin stories. Really wish they kept it how ATLA set it up where they learned from a source and weren't gifted bending by Lion Turtles.
Exactly. I thought they couldn't fly bc they had to stop using their ability and hide during the genocide. Also, the early airbenders had no material or earthly attachments bc everyone they knew could also fly. AND side theory here: what if there's a society of airbenders who do live hidden in the clouds?
The bisons where the first airbenders. But that doesn't mean they're the one who thought them how to use air bending, bisons thought them how to utilize it better
Like. Fire benders and dragons
they never had to get attached in order to learn how to airbend. They could've studied them without approaching the bisons. I think that way it would make way more sense.
I've never seen the merit behind this point. It's explained in the show with Wan. He gets the ability to control fire from the lion turtle. Then he learns fire bending as a martial art from the dragons. They show him doing the dancing dragon with the dragons. Then the hunters from his lion turtle say that Wan controls fire like nothing they've seen before, as if it's an extension of his body. So ALOK is entirely consistent with what was said in ATLA.
Which is nice because they didn't need to be. After all Wan lived 10,000 years ago. How much of our own history do we know from 10k years ago? That's older than our first civilizations, which began approximately 6k years ago. They could have completely logically said 'oh well the truth was lost to history', but they didn't.
Only one of the many reasons why I would gladly become an Air Nomad... Ten-ton adorable flying monster.
I've worked with cattle and beefalos. Appa is roughly 10 times the weight and several times the size of an actual Bison. So, i can empathize with how the Air Nomads saw the Sky Bison, a pure, powerful creature that embodied all the things which they were fond of and just... incorporated them into their lives.
It all makes sense why, when he actually throws his weight around, Appa is destroying things... 25/10 creature, would still feed a basket of peaches, becsuse App is 1000% good boy.
Firebenders being able to turn themselfs into a jet with all the attachments they want...
Thats so cute 🥺 but in the original avatar wasn't it mentioned that the sky bison were the ones who taught air benders?
Taught them how to bend/use it. The power itself was given to them by the lion turtles. Bending was very crude back then and only used for basic purposes (fire benders use fire so they could see at night, etc) Actual bending techniques weren't really a thing yet
Awww that’s actually adorable and explains Soo much
I thought it was because of the first Avatar, Avatar Wan, separated the spirit world from the natural world, while also combining the scattered human colonies, therefore kickstarting The Four Great Nations. As such, the Air Nomads finally gained the concept of earthly attachments because before then, there was no reason to have attachments whenever your entire world and reality was only limited on the back of an Air Lion-Turtle in the mountains.
However, you theory is also plausible. The only issue I have with it is the fact the Sky Bison where the second and “earthly” masters and teachers of Air Bending for the Air Nomads, after the Lion-Turtles respectfully departed and bestowed the original knowledge of Elemental Bending to the humans. As such, the Sky Bison should spiritually be metaphysically aligned with Air Bending culture, which means the denouncing and renouncing of earthly possessions. But a simply lore change or elaboration can fix that.
For some reason in the live action series Aang flies without his glider and it drove me nuts
Also drove me nuts, it kind of screws up a ton of the history and lore of air benders by letting him fly
@@shuaty it also screws up any suspense in the LOTS of moments Aang falls from high distances without his glider. Done so in the first episode right after showing aang flying around. I was like "Go on bro, whats the problem?"
He’s not flying, flying is being suspended in the air aang has to keep himself up through repeated air bursts
@@drpatrickmorbius5966the series literally started with aang flying not bursts of air.
I think it's not flying he just land with a style using air.
My biggest problem with the ATLA Live action (I’m only 2 episodes in) is that Aang is shown flying or gliding without a glider in the first 5 mins of the show. I knew that airbenders are supposed to give up their earthly attachments and was disappointed they didn’t keep that.
I noticed that tooo It was soo disappointing
Aang also did that in the animated series during his first contact with the Warriors of Kyoshi.
damm that makes alot of sense
Aang's people be finna just go catching peaches before they were eating flames 😭😭😭😭😭
Great spirit of wisdom: You must choose. Between flying, and companionship with this adorable fluffy creature.
Air nomad: That’s not a choice, that’s an introduction.
Imagine the avatar becoming emotionless betraying everyone and gaining flight ability
They can do it in the avatar state no?
All Avatars can fly….it’s called fire bending 😂
I expected something ridiculous. But this is a theory I could get behind
Except that sky bisons were the ones that taught humans how to air bend
@@tubeguy4066 the lion turtles gave the ability to bend to people. Watch Legend of Korra for that news. The sky bison only taught the airbenders to use it as an extension of themselves.
@@brenndanmcdonaugh1672 your right and wrong at the same time have a look at toph’s backstory on how she was taught how to earth bend the turtles merely gave them the ability to and help the avatar maintain control
Id argue.."floating" close to the earth vs higher in the atmosphere in the mountains are very different. Regardless of attachments
Cloudbending is actually an art pretty close to the Air Scooter. It acts like Goku's Flying Ninbus. This art is different from Zaheers' unrestricted flight as it doesn't require any sort of platform like the clouds or airscooters due.
You explained something that I was trying verbalize ! I AGREE. zaheers technique is different as he didn't require any sort of vehicle. He was able to manipulate the air around him giving him a free range of motion not dependent on anything.
I'm glad someone else recognized it was Cloudbending and not Flight.
@joesunday199 me and my brother argued over it. That's why j know the difference.
@@joesunday199cloud bending can still be considered flight if they can fly ON the cloud.
Sure, it's not direct flight, but it'd be a form of flight.
Flying with a tool or technique is still flying...
We are considered flying even if we fly ON a plane...
My issue is that they haven't been shown flying, just hovering....
@@TheDeathmail The requirements for Flight are different.
The sad part about this is that clearly the sky bison don’t care about the air nomads, that’s why they can still fly 😢
Dont compare an animal with human
@@fluccyatreus why? It’s a fictional animal that is shown to have intelligence. Why can’t it be compared to a human?
If anything, it shows that being able to fly is really just a state of mind. The nomads believed the cause and effect. The bison had no such proclivity.
That's not how that works at all. It is shown plenty of times in the show that the bisons do care. The ability to fly is learned in different ways. Animals in the avatar world learn through their biology. Humans learn from their bending
@@EggshdKinda, animals can bend too, wasnt earthbending learnt from animals?
Korra dumped the fact that air benders learned from sky bison and just allowed them to just get airbending from a lion turtle😭
I assumed that when the lions turtles stopped providing temporary bending and ppl had to learn to fend for themselves is when the Airbenders learned to Airbender from the bison.
the air benders LEARNED from the sky bison
they got the ability to bend from the lion turtle
being able to bend is a lot different from knowing how to properly bend.
there's a difference between buying an item and learning how to use it, right?
Like when zuko lost his ability to firebend. When he couldnt use anger to fire bend anymore, he needed to relearn how to bend with dragons.
i’m not so sure about this purely because the sky bisons are what taught people to airbend as Aang stated when trying to figure out how Zuko can bend without relying on rage, so they would’ve had to have already met and befriended them
I love how many retcons LOK introduced and how desperately people try to work them in 💀
Zaheer's ability to fly was a detachment to earth - freedom "like" air but the ability to be weightless.
Airbenders ability to "fly" was still achieved with "air" the element. They were given the ability to use air and they use air to "fly"
This is similar to Jinora's spirit projection. She transcends the third dimensional limits and becomes limitless. Her airbending knowledge helps, but it's her ability to detach that is key.
Edit: just to clarify, yes the ability to become weightlessness and the ability to fly are very similar, but one is not affected by gravity. As Guru Pathik one said, the elements are merely an illusion. They do the same thing. They bend reality. This is what Zaheer is doing by believing he is completely detached to materialism.