This Makes Me Not Want to Buy a Honda Ever Again
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Scotty the voting machines broke again in Arizona and PA, how are we gonna change the direction we are going if the machines keep mysteriously breaking in states that decide important pieces of the elections
👍
I broke both legs, 3 arms, my pecker, got robbed, stubbed 3 toes, busted 11 knuckles and got a concussion changing my oil. What did I do wrong?
35k? loooool Not even the higher trim.
So sad. Could have got a fully loaded Mazda for less...
I have overheating jeep liberty 2003 what can be the issue ?
I went to Honda last month and they wanted a $5000 market price adjustment on top of list price + other things!
I got up and told the salesman that I was going to adjust myself out of here!!🤣
These dealers need a wake up check but of course if there are idiots willing to pay these multi thousand markups they will continue doing it
Its rediculous to upsell on such a basic car. Dont buy them until the drop the prices
I would have done the same thing. These dealerships have no shame when it comes to jacking the price up WAY BEYOND reason.
Do not buy a honda with the 1.5 liter with a the turbo in cold weather driving. Engine is to small and can not get to operating temp in stop and go driving with the heater on max. You will end up oil dilution and water vapour from the engine in the crankcase. You know what happens in below freezing temperatures you end up with ice in the oil pan. I have the honda crv with 1.5 turbo.
@@m109r Yeah I saw videos on TH-cam of the temperature gauge literally going down if you're idling.
It's also not like he was in the arctic in below freezing temps
10k over the sticker?
Tbh, I would've just walked away.
Yeah, what a rip off, my friend bought a 2019 Civic coupe 6-speed for $18,000 CDN. Granted it's a base model
I didn't buy that ev I wanted. They also wanted 10k over...
I too would have walked away. You can get a lot of nice new cars for lot cheaper, and that's coming from a Toyota fanboy.
@@Thatone188 true it’s just not smart money !
A smart man would’ve walked get a car out of state. Whatever you gotta do buy something else , somewhere else .
I drove my Honda to the polls today. It was my Civic duty to vote.
Lol, "your civic duty" lol
Thank you for voting - I voted too, but no civic
" My accord duty" 🇺🇸👍🇺🇸👍
@Phillip Banes I crossed out every name and every proposal and wrote "RON PAUL"
@@wauliepalnuts6134 wish I thought of that LOL
@@wauliepalnuts6134 LOL nice one
I wonder if it's more afFORDable then a light duty. Truck.
$34,000 for a hatchback, I don’t blame the dealers I blame these people that throw money at them
I only paid $4500 for my Ford Escape with a V6 and after 5 years it never breaks down on me!
All SUVs are hatchbacks.
@@rongrant3500 Exactly! And they’re bigger too!
@@rongrant3500 but not all hatchbacks are SUVs
What 34k?in Greece that think starts from 40k
I spent the day looking for a 2023 rav4 woodland edition. The car is essentially a base xle hybrid with trd tuned suspension and larger, more aggressive tire. Most dealerships I called didn’t even get an allocation. The ones that did after all the questions and back and forth, “oh by the way, there’s a 5000 markup”. I would respond with, “thanks for letting me know ,that way I can write it down and remember to never do business with you”. After 17 calls I finally found one, in the color that I wanted, and at msrp. Don’t pay these ridiculous, bogus prices.
You're still losing money by buying new.
@@richsweeney1115 not in this market environment. The used ones were more expensive than new and I was able to buy at msrp. Wouldn’t have entertained it if the Audi didn’t blow a gasket. So like many people, I was forced into a bad situation but despite that, we were patient and didn’t overpay. Our purchase prices was 3,800 below the nation average at the time of sale.
Thank you. I have a lot of phone calls to make ❤
@@obsoletecd-rom yes, you are. Because its goin to crash at some.point. its not going to stay high. So ,you're going to lose more than normal when it crashes. I would have looked at used Hondas, Toyotas, Lexus and acuras.. But Hondas my favorite. Every brand has its issues. People are crazy about Toyota..and think they rarely even have an issue..they do, as often as a Honda..which isn't much.
@@richsweeney1115
1. I’ve owned many cars over the years. Only one has been in an accident, and another had hail damage which you couldn’t tell once it was fixed. To suggest every single car/most cars get in some sort of accident is crazy.
2. There are a minority of times where buying new can be an okay decision. If the prices are out of whack like they are now, you keep the vehicle for a long time/lots of mileage and take meticulous care of it, it can be worth it. It also allows you to avoid vehicles that have been abused.
Mind you, this is coming from someone who only bought new one time (during a recession) and 3 years later I was offered more (including all the fees and taxes) than I paid for it (Tacoma). There were a couple other times where I really could have gone either way (new or used) and it would have been either a wash or maybe I would have paid a somewhat nominal amount for the piece of mind of a new car.
I don't think the car industry can take anymore shocks. They are already Frankenstein according to Scotty lol.
Yeah true, the car industry only needs more struts.
Yes, they've had their timbres shivered according to Scotty! Ahoy! R, R, R, Civic Type R... R, R, R!
Scotty has shocked them to death haha
its because they are going electric, got to take advantage of all that voltage
“He had to overpay for it.”
Nope, he didn’t. We consumers must protect ourselves.
believe it or not some people HAVE to buy a car because their last one was wrecked, stolen, broken down, or they never had one
@@NotUrStupidName And they HAVE to buy a new one?
@@lukatrdina5108 some times yes if the price of used is very close to brand new
@@a.a.a.r5238 If you're looking at used car prices from private owners and comparing them to prices of brand new cars from the dealership, there is absolutely no scenario in which those come close
He probably did if he wanted a manual sport. Very niche car and you always overpay for niche. Dealers, just like any other business, are out to make money. They are not a charity. If someone is willing to pay $15k over sticker, then they will sell it for $15k over sticker. He could have gone to a chevy dealership. My guess is he wanted a Honda, so you pay what Honda wants. The wider you cast your net, the more likely you are not to get screwed.
The entire car industry is in a constant shock 😲! - Love your vids Scotty
Imagine paying 34,7000 on an econobox 🤡 im selling my accprd for 6k and they treat me like im scamming people
do you have an Ipad in your dash?🤣
Thank God you were never my choir director!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for series and information.
Maybe Scotty himself shocked the entire car industry.
He shivered their timbres alright! Ahoy!!!
Absolutely, everytime a new vid drops ⚡⚡
with his dreadful videos
Have a 97 accord with 500,000+ miles and still going...Bought it brand new and couldn't ask for a better car. It sat for 3 years and then again for another year. Both times started up with a new battery of course, but through the yrs very little maintenance was done except changing the oil. Its crazy how it's still going! Anyways Honda is the way to go in my opinion!
Jeez that’s amazing. My dad used to drive an accord not sure from what year but probably the late 90s. Great car.
I agree my whole family is Honda supporters, we have 3 Hondas in our driveway, Honda and Acura all the way
Have an 03 Accord with 107,000 miles; bought new as well. Only thing I've had to replace was the ac compressor and alternator. Hope to have it for several more years at least.
@@greenwil Just change the oil when it recommends and you will be good. I will never get anything other than Honda or possibly a Toyota. Let me know when you are selling it!!
@@tristangallant2020 No doubt!!
Scotty: This makes me not want to buy a Honda ever again!
Also Scotty: Hey, this Honda is pretty cool.
Yeah, I was trying to find out what his beef was, and I guess it was just that the friend overpaid for it.
Manual transmission and the regular engine is the key to a lifetime reliability.
2 words: Brake hold. That button below the e-brake, is used for hill starts. It holds the brake until you get going.
Studebaker had a similar device in the 40s and 50s. Called it the Hill-Holder.
I like my sunroof. I can open the sunroof and roll down all the windows and pretend it's convertible, without having to stop the car to put it back up. When the car has been parked in the hot sun, the sunroof makes it easier to vent the heat while waiting for the A/C to start cooling. In cool weather you can let the sun shine in without the cold wind.
In the summer, I love my sunroof. I like to open it and roll down all four windows for what I call the "pseudo-convertible experience"!
I’ve done that. Feels fantastic.
Keep a tube of copper grease and run it along the tracks. Keeps it smooth, lubricated, and it doesn’t tax the electric motor to move it opened & closed.
A wee tube is inexpensive, hand to use, easy to store. A tub if you have a garage & are keeping the car for a good while. Happy (and safe) motoring.
Agreed. I put down a deposit on a Lexus and then backed out because I just couldn’t deal with it not having a sunroof. I love to have the sun in the car & when you open it, you don’t get all the wind in your face like you can with the windows. I bought an Acura because a panoramic sunroof is standard.
I don't have a sunroof. I vent my hot car, by opening the door, and waiting a minute for the hot air to go out.
Makes the interior roof lower. Sucks
These videos make me appreciate being Canadian thank god I got my 2022 civic touring for MSRP couldn't imagine paying that
I bought a 13 accord coupe today w/ 60k miles, even though its a 4 cyl this car screams! Turned out to be a much better car than I expected, after driving crappy domestic cars my whole life this car is a game changer
Btw it came with a kn cold air intake and magnaflow dual exhaust (guessing it’s tuned for them too cuz it’s noticeably faster than stock)
Lucky!
ive had mine for a year now, i love it too. i cant wait to do the same tune on mine
That happened to me in 1987 when I bought an '81 Prelude and sold my '66 Lemans. I bought a 2020 Civic Si Coupe and love it.
My daughter and I both drive 2013 Accord EX sedans. Love the 2.4 liter engines. Wasn't too excited about the CVT when I first got mine but 6 years later it's still running perfectly w/ 75k. Pretty sure I'll be driving this until the wheels fall off.
I felt the same away about infotainment screens sticking up randomly on the dash, but after driving one using navigation on that screen from my phone I found I like it better. It takes less time to look away from the road to check the maps. It feels safer. My previous car had one integrated into the dash but it felt like I was looking away from the road too long when I would check the navigation.
Yeah it's designed to be in your line of sight
Heads up is definitely better
I totally agree!! No need to move your neck, it's like you can see the road and the map almost at the same time. Initially I thought it was afterthought, super glued tablet on the dash, but now I get it. It really is better the way Honda put it because it's more functional and safe.
Honda went to a stand up display to give the car a more airy & less claustrophobic feel.
You can just get the phone holder that has the suction cup on it and attach it to the windshield
I like the sunroof/ moon roof , i often used it and enjoyed it, it's for people who think that a convertible is too much but don't want a completely sealed top either
I like the moonroof on my 07 accord sedan. Theyre more reliable than i thought and i only use it on Roadtrips anyway
I love the sunroof too! I use it daily.
I like sunroofs except when it rains and I left it open
Drove by a local Toyota lot a few weeks ago. Before the pandemic, it used to be jam-packed with new Camrys and RAV4s. Now it was completely empty. I hope the situation improves next year.
I’m with ya about the sunroofs Scotty, they’re the option everyone wants and nobody uses lol.
Not true I use mine everyday and it’s a 06 crv, has never leaked
No sunroof = 1 less thing to give you problems.
Use mine all the time, love seeing the sky
Been looking for a 2015 civic si and i definitely want a sunroof so i can have it open and keep the windows up
v6 accord. use mine all the time
That's the exact configuration I want (2L NA port-injection, 6MT), except for the color.
I'd have asked around to see if there was someone buying an EX-L trim at the same time and see if they wanted to swap their 17" wheels with the 18" wheels.
Several months ago, I was at a Honda dealer getting my older Honda Accord serviced. Out of curiosity, I looked at the stickers on two new Accords. The dealer had added some $15,000 to the MSRP.
And then they have the audacity to jiff you when you try and do a trade in
It's sad that people are ok with paying markups like that
Disgusting!
So glad I made the right purchase that is Scotty Approved. No dealer mark up when I got mine a year ago. I have yet to try that new GF6 oil. I'll check it out for my next oil change
Ty for sharing ... great vid ... I like these updated civic's, that hatch was perfect for me specially that motor, had it in my 2018 really wanted another one but could not justify my cheap daily beater to cost so much extra $$$ ... most LX base after markups were around $29 to $32k 🤣 ... so his sport was a deal thx to the local options ... Actually wound up picking up a 2023 Altima last week for $26k ... Abeloff Nissan in Bartonsville, PA --- ZERO MSRP adjustments ... bought 2 cars from em this year w/o hassle. Not exactly my first pick for cars but after the first buy and how they treated me, I will always search there lot before others... all and all I saved around $9k between the 2 cars compared to the honda dealers... the Sad thing is even with msrp adjustments people are still taking these ... and a lot more then before ...
I had a similar situation, early november, i totaled my 2015 civic so i needed a car. i originally was planning to get a used civic but the prices for them were ridiculous. i went to some local smaller dealerships and they had used ones for up to like 32k. they were had really high mileage for their years, like i found a 2022 civic with 39k. Long story short i went to a couple different honda dealerships to try and get a new one, most were in transit and already had people with deposits on them. and all the dealerships had market adjustments of 5,000 and dealer added accessories, which were “non negotiable”. i just walked out and said ok we’re good, across the street from one of the honda dealerships is a kia dealership. i decided why not just go see what they have, few hours later i walked out with a new 2023 kia forte gt for only 27k. i’ve had it for a few weeks and have zero regrets. Kia really upped their game.
I think Kia's are fine as long as they're either brand new or nearly brand new and not a car built in 2010-2015. Maybe I wouldn't expect them to last up to 200,000+ miles like a Toyota or a Honda and I would be on top of oil and other fluid changes.
I'm thankful to work at a Honda Dealership that doesn't mark up the new inventory 🥺😊. It's hard/sad hearing customers (I myself am a customer) paying markup at other dealers around me :(...
I bought my 22 civic ex sedan for sticker in 2021. I also have the turbo engine and I've gotten 46 mpg with the cvt transmission while using the cruise control on a longish road trip. I'm almost to 30k miles and absolutely love it
I have a 10th gen manual civic and it also has the electronic parking brake. To work around the car rolling turn on the ‘brake hold’ button. Solves the problem with ease
Scotty after working all day in the hell hole of NYC, watching you it’s a stress reliever,Cheers brother!
But Hochul will make sure you all will be safe !
👋 fellow New Yorker! I hate it here too and even more after Tuesday
Sorry about Hochul. Buffalo tried to be the beacon of hope in NY but when you’re outnumbered 400k to 15 million it’s an uphill battle we can’t win. The entire state was red……except the major cities, nothing strange about that whatsoever. This state is doomed.
@@axe2grind244 We desperately need TRUMP---
Followed scotty's advice and went with the camry 2.5. Rides like a dream and getting 45 mpg on the highway in a non-hybrid non-turbo non-cvt car!
45🤗🤗🤗
You can't go wrong with a Toyota
@@Jykobe491 Camry or Corolla? I can't decide
@@dianam9028 honestly both, and that is not a joke
@@Jykobe491 I've been watching some videos saying some Toyotas have oil burning problems. Should I avoid certain models/years?
I got my Civic Sport Touring with manual transmission for MSRP last Saturday! I did opt for a tire warranty though specifically because of the low profiles and past experience with local roads. Loving the car so far it is a blast to drive!
I love your car, it's so awesome. I only had the money to afford the regular Sport 😭
Love the part about the sun-roof. Totally agree Scotty.
Man ty Mister Scotty for your advice 🙏 wish I found you years ago because you have some really great advice I wish I would’ve heard back then. You also making me want to be a mechanic 😅
I wasn't sure about the screen either, but after driving mine for 15k miles or so, it is nice to have the screen at eye level like it is. Easier to look at the nav, Spotify, etc without fully taking my eyes off the road.
You could just get a phone holder with the suction cup that attaches to your windshield..
I was lucky enough to get my 2022 Civic Hatchback Sport for MSRP back in Dec 2021. I upgraded from a 2005 Civic Sedan EX (~190-200k Miles). The old Civic still ran but the repairs needed costed more than the car was worth. I had the new Civic for nearly a year now. Its been a great point A to point B car. Android Auto and Apple Carplay are great features to have. I couldn't get around on my own without GPS. Everything is so spread out here in Florida. The issues I do have are a weak front windshield defroster, cloth material gets dirty easily, and road noise. Nothing too major. I got it in the boost blue color and its just a beautiful looking car. I almost got the Elantra over it, but no one would sell it at MSRP. I'm glad I went with Civic in the end.
I have the 2018 accord touring with the same 2.0 engine and it has a turbo. Surprisingly fun to drive with the manual, v-tech and the turbo feels great when you want to go. Great fuel economy when your cruising. Very happy with the accord. I do wish that the tires had a little taller wall to help with the road noise, but this is a minor gripe. Highly recommend if you’re looking at a 4 door sedan.
The sidewall of the tire isn't a source of road noise, it's the tread pattern, and durometer of the rubber. Plus, Hondas always have too much road noise. Other than that they are top notch
I thought every car has turbo nowadays...
I just bought a ‘19 2.0 Accord touring. Honestly one of the best cars on the market right now in my opinion. The 2.0 K series is an amazing engine. My ‘03 RSX type s with a k20 has over 200k miles and still loves to rev to 8k rpm.
I’ve bought two cars from that dealership and never had any problems with sketchy fees or behavior, and found everything to be smooth and fair. That was before moving away, sucks to hear about it now because I did used to really enjoy working with them.
they put a bigger battery into it yay😃
May I ask which dealership you end up with?
They're never gonna stop making them 👌
Quick Tip because the dash was so dusty... keep a Swiffer cloth in the car
and when it gets dirty from use bring it back to the house and use it there.
Swiffers work better than anything else especially reusable ones.
Thank you Scotty I always learn something from your videos.
I bought an Acura & they marked it up 3500 over sticker. On the other hand, they paid me 5,000 more for my trade in than I paid for the car a year ago used. It worked out.
My last civic came with a sunroof. Used it maybe 3 times in 6 years. Not a big fan of all the electronic tomfoolery as scotty would say on my new civic but got an extended warranty just in case.
Just wait until it leaks. My 2000 4runner limited leaked and my 2011 Highlander limited leaked. Toyota sunroofs are abysmal.
@@rigell2764 2010 Toyota Highlander with 220k miles. Use mine all the time, no leaks.
@@rigell2764 2011 Prius. In 170K miles, it never leaked once.
I got the 22 si. Its got the 1.5L and taking my aggressive driving well. Tuned it also. 0 issues. Fun car good quality. Just maintain it correctly and dont abuse it and itll last a very long time
Geez. I called around until I got a dealership who sold me a 22 civic sport in white at msrp for cash. I had to wait 4 months and drive 90 minutes one way but it was worth it. Thanks to Scotty I knew to stick with the 2.0 liter. And yeah, PA potholes may be too rough for these wheels and tires.
Yes, you have to do the work to get the right price. It may take quite some time though.
He dumps crap on 1.5 turbo unnecessarily. I got Zero issues w it and no oil dilution.
They solved the problem years ago.
In terms of power, no comparison to 2 liter na
Haven't heard from any CRV owner of a catastrophic engine failure. It uses the same 1.5 l turbo on a much heavier vehicle than civic. Stop with that fear mongering. This motor is totally fine.
@@elim7228 No fear mongering here. Just a conservation decision. I kno lots of CRV owners who drive old CRVs and end up buying a newer one when able.
Scotty, give us a quick rundown, of which cars you can still get with a standard transmission....THANKS
almost all companies besides mercedes
All brands except Rolls Royce or any limo brands
My 2022 honda hr v has no moonroof, no gdi, no low profile tires, and no push button start. It has limited electronic drivers aids, magic seats, a tried and true 1.8 liter 4 cylinder engine and gets 30mpg city and 38 mpg highway. If this civic is so good, imagine how much better my hr v is. I'm very glad I bought it before the 2023 came out. I think it is superior to any other small suv and will outlast any current Honda product .
Scotty, a long time ago you recommended the BlueDriver scan tool. I can’t thank you enough for that video, that scan tool has been essential and reliable.
Sticker price for these in north NJ right now are $26k and change.
Scotty, I've been waiting for this review. It's unfortunate the owner got ripped off on the price though. I bought my '22 sport in June of '21 and paid 23,450 out the door. Was lucky I got it before all the price increases. Mine is an automatic transmission and is clean. I couldn't believe how unkept that car was. Keep the great videos coming!
The buyer willingly took part. Ripped off? He didn’t think so at the time. Maybe the dealer was holding his family hostage.
You paid 3,000 below msrp?
@@hunny27 no he didn’t. These cars go for 24,095 or so mrsp. I know because I got one the same month and year he did and got mine for the same price. I got lucky enough and bought it when they had no markup. My brother got a 2019 Civic with 18k miles for 24k smh
got my '22 sport for 26,500 with a spoiler and black logo customization. Great deal and great dealership
‘22 EX for 36,000 😢 didn’t know a thing about buying cars and paid the price for it. Price gouging dealers 🔪+ unaware, first-time buyers = no bueno.
Thanks for the advice Scotty! Your advice arrived just in time :) Oh, and Happy new year!
Thank you. I said the same thing about stand-up screens. It looks like they stuck an I Pad on the dashboard. In one car I owned I loved the sun- roof. I could open it and get some air. I used to wear contacts, so when I opened the side windows, it hurt my eyes. But with the Honda Civic, I never used the moon-roof. I had a 2010 Honda. It was okay. After it got older, the engine idle was very rough. I don't know if the dealer service ruined the timing or if it was a problem with the car. The paint was faulty and wore down all over the car. I also had to have the heater core replaced, a costly repair. I've never had that done on any other car. And even after replaced, I still sometimes smelled pancake syrup coming out of the vents, but at least the windows didn't fog up. The seats were also extremely uncomfortable. The car was reliable, but the uncomfortable seats were not good for long trips. The dealer was also a crook, charging me for repairs they never performed.
I really wanted the new civic (coming from a 2005 civic). All the dealerships wanted 10K above the MSRP. So I bought a used 2012 ES 350 with 50K miles for 19K. I'm happy.
What's the 350??? There's no such civic AFAIK
@@elim7228 Lexus ES 350 - completely different class & ride. :)
2005 Civic >>> 2022 Civic. They are big heavy land yachts now
@@AIDAHAR210 2005 civic. lol lol lol
@@gmal5980 Lexus 350? LOL.
Honestly, there’s two weeks in the beginning and two weeks at the end of summer when I use my sun roof lol still looks nice from the outside though.
I got that exact model and color. Fun car. Just wish I had a manual.
I just bought a 2024 Honda LX at 29,000 I’m happy. Rock on Scotty.
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Back in May I bought a 2022 Honda Accord Sport with the 2.0T and 10-speed automatic, right off the truck brand new for $33,000. Crazy how people are paying more for a cheaper car.
The customer Scotty mentioned played along. Bent over, held his own ankles and said, “Do whatever you choose because I really want that car!”
I just pre ordered a CIvic!
Had been a year since this video was uploaded and nothing changed
I have a 2006 Civic with 216 thousand miles. I recently replaced the AC compressor. I had a starter go out under warranty but other than that it’s been trouble free. I just do all the scheduled maintenance and keep it clean and waxed. P.S. I did have the headliner fall, so it was redone for $200.
Glad to hear I have an 06 ex 5spd 260,000 miles all original parts. I also replaced the head liner last fall. She’s a Canadian girl so I have he oil sprayed yearly. It looks and drives like the day I bought it. Other than the paint is starting to fail. 🥂
Leaves in the hvac air intake drives me nuts!
I'm shocked to see how dirty the center console is. Clean it up Scotty before showing it 😅
Hello Mr Scotty tank you very much for sharing your knowledge and always tell the truth whit auto fear of damage some one feelings. chears from Quetzaltenango
ive had mine for a year, it’s finally getting mods. there’s haters that will tell you to buy a turbo civic to do mods, lol those weren’t around when i got my hands on this at msrp, and good luck finding a reasonably priced sport touring with a turbo 6spd or an si. my 2.0 is faster than the 1.5 now anyway unless that 1.5 is tuned
I got a brand new civic sport in October 2021 for $24,100 with my choice of color, 0.9% financing and my dealer includes a lifetime mileage/warranty on the drivetrain. Good for the CVT (I'm still not sold on them). I had to wait for about a month to get it and if I wanted a standard the price went up alot. I do miss my manual though. Time for a second Civic.
well since you bought one, you were definitely sold on them (baddumst*)
The Toyota CVTs are super reliable, because they have an actual gear for first gear, which takes the worst of the beating until the car is moving.
I live in chicago and they were marking them up 3-5 thousand dollars. I tried negotiating with a pre approved loan, trade in, and a down payment ready to take their car off the lot they wouldn't budge. I ended up getting a 22 Sentra SR for $25k plus taxes and fees coming out to 28k. Im satisfied with my purchase just need a daily car with good gas mileage.
I hope you got a good warranty on the trans.
@@jaysmith179 I got the 5 year or 60,000 miles power train warranty but I don't plan on keeping it that long. Will pay it off and then upgrade I want something with power and luxury next!
I recently bought a '22 Civic Si at MSRP at my local dealer. Every other dealer I called wanted a markup.
I been waiting for a honda civic review, but this was something I was not expecting. When I bought my civic, the mark up was 3k and that's crazy!!
Easy solution - don't buy it buy something else or get the bus.
@@acement1 haha😐
It’s not a ripoff or screw job if you willingly sign the paperwork and take delivery. The customers paying the over-inflated prices need to learn about personal responsibility. If the #’s change or you get the high penny roll, leave. Don’t pretend you’re leaving. Just walk out!
As a cybersecurity enthusiast, an electrical e-brake is one that's hackable or programmable.
Break into someone's car or offer to work on it for them and splice a small wireless controller in the circuit, and you can basically remote control their e-brake.
Stay safe, buy analog when possible. 😉
Anyway, regarding your opinion for newer Honda's, what is your idea on a 2018 Honda Pilot AWD eight-passenger crossover with the 3.5 L V6 engine and the six-speed automatic transmission? I heard that the all-new, 2023 Honda Pilot Touring AWD model, which also seats up to eight passengers and has an all-new, ten-speed automatic transmission will be tested and out in dealerships just in time for the holiday season and the new year. The horsepower has just increased by five. Thank you very much.
I have a 2022 Honda civic Sport Hatchback. I drove from San Diego to Stockon California to buy mine. In SD it was around 44 thousand and in Stockton it was 30thousand even. The drive was definitely worth it ha. Inflation crazy
I've been happily cruising around in my 2016 Civic for a little over a year now. I was fortunate enough to buy it before the price of used cars went through the roof. The very first new car I ever bought was a Honda Civic and that being said this is the 3rd Civic I've ever owned and at my age hopefully it will be the last car I ever buy. Edit: I forgot to mention that it also has a sun roof which is nice to have down here in the sunshine state aka Florida.
I also got a steal of a deal last year for a 2018 civic lx. The automatic cvt is remarkably zippy. The new civics are so ridiculously expensive in Canada. I was considering a 2023 hatch but I refuse to pay over 30k for a economy car.
One easily only needs 3 Hondas in a lifetime. I don't know why people talk so much about cars.
Scotty that is exactly what happened to me. I got rear ended on the high way. Totaled my car and get and check. Was looking for a new car and saw the buying a brand new civic seemed way better than buying a used as everything is basically the same price for. It was ridiculous.
i’ve put for a civic also did you get yours out the door or had it built cause mines almost done just been waiting
Same boat here. What civic did you get? I want it to last forever. What’s a good engine?
@@OscarKRocha any of the Honda . Motors...
@@richsweeney1115 lol
Great video, thank you!
I'm glad I bought my Honda Accord when I did, in mid-2020. A brand new 2020 with the 2.0T in the EX-L trim for $27,000 flat. Couldn't even imagine what they're going for now.
33k
@@marleyjanim5033 The ones near me are going for at least $40K. I'm not sure where you're at where a 2.0T Accord is cheaper than what most Civics are going for
The entire car industry has been shocked so much in the last 2 months its probably dead by now.
Agreed. Never ever pay even close to sticker price. Find out the invoice price and pay a couple of hundred above it. Take public transport or taxis. Don't buy a new or used car at these insane prices.
Got mine back in March. Its been a great car, already done a cross country road trip. 2 years of complimentary maintenance is great. Out the door for the Sport I paid 30,000. After taxes and everything. In the end I paid about a 2,000 mark up. Considering I could not find a car in my state or surrounding states in black with the packages I wanted, dealers nowadays and the reliability and resale value of the car, I did not mind. Almost paid off! Plan on driving it until the wheels fall off which might be never with a Honda!
Scotty, I bought a 2022 Honda Civic Canadian LX a different optioned car vs USA. I ordered it last middle of February and it was delivered at end of May. The dealer in Canada did not mark the car up, sold it at msrp. In addition one of my fellow workers just ordered a 2023 civic sport and the Honda dealer at a different location sold it at msrp. If you want to buy a new Honda. Maybe look at buying it out of Canadian waters! Thankyou for that video.
How much did you pay?
@@daneharris2242 out the door with taxes and freight it was 31,600 in Canadian funds, also if you are American the LX has, remote start, heated seat, 60/40 rear bench, the EX model up only has a heated steering wheel, sunroof and aluminum wheels. So for me wasn't worth the extra cost for those features.
Canada has laws against price gouging I believe. I may be wrong
2.0L naturally aspirated port injected engine and a 6 speed manual transmission is the most reliable way to buy a Civic 👍🏻
He definitely overpaid by a lot however. His daughter will easily get a few hundred thousand miles out of that K20C2 engine no doubt.
The fact she know how drive a manual. 😮
@@manny9853 with the way women usually drive, they will damage an automatic and cvt in no time, so yeah they need a manual.
this HFP 2018 civic SI I got was tearing up stage 2 tuned G35s she stock! Never knew an SI could be so fast!
What a Honda boy thing to say. Just no
Yeah I’m sure 😂😂😂
I sell New Hondas in Texas, these are amazing cars. Every one of my customers loves the Honda and long lasting vehicle. Have a 2000 Accord V6 with 125k miles on it 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you. I will take your advice!
I've been looking at the si sedan! How did you know I was looking at Honda last night? Haha
AGREED on the vertical screens! I don't know why so many manufacturers are doing that. It looks like such a rushed afterthought as to where the infotainment system should go.
@Aaron - When I first saw them I thought they pushed down into the dash.
Vertical screens, for map info, radio, auxiliary info, - they do look like a mini iPad afterthought as you say.
There's a reason they do it. The built in screens are forced tl flow with the dash angle (more or less), they're also mounted lower than thhe vertical screens. Because of that you tend tk get a lot of glare on the screen that washes out the image, and you can't see anything. In the Civics case, enough people complained about the 10th gen Civics having constant glare, that Honda listened and raised the mounting location as well as increasing the angle to vertical. The screen is also closer to being inline with the sight line of the driver, rather than having to look down.
@@De5O54 Yeah - and if you _could_ push then down or something to hide them when not using them, that'd at least be better than nothing,
Plus, it will tempt a robber to try to steal it too. Fortunately, I have a garage to park my car.
@@nypana1202 I'm from NY, and I haven't heard of anyone trying to steal factory built in screens. These are NOT the standard DIN radios/LCD's of the past that fit standard mounting locations. They're also not the computer or player, so it'd be next to worthless for all the effort of trying to get it out. Now...if it was a catalytic converter, that's another story...
love when people record scotty !!! 😄😄
A couple of Honda dealerships tried to sell me a Civic for insane prices too. About 7k over MSRP. I just bought a Subaru instead. They had more inventory and much better financing deals, and much nicer people.
Scotty try a 2022 Honda Civic Si with 6 Speed M/T. Love it. Fun CAR! I paid $1,995 over MSRP for Blazing Orange Pearl. You told your customer to AVOID the "free oil changes" and DIY correct? 🙂
The dealers near me marked it up to 40k and 60k for CTR. You're lucky. A Kia dealer nearby doesn't do markups so I got a manual Forte GT for 24k. My wife has a 2008 Si anyways and we be switching cars every week.
Still waiting on Scotty to get a 2022 civic si!
I just bought a 2023 Civic Sport this week in Lynchburg, Virginia. The dealer didn't stack up any extra charges like that on mine.
Use my sunroof for SUN light
Makes the cabin so much brighter
Opening it is gimmicky (unless the aircon is broken)
I bought a 2019 Civic with 24,000 miles and 6 speed manual in early 2020 for 19.5k. Today it has 75k miles on it and worth 25k. Whew, that purchase was just in time. First time in my life I bought an economy car and it appreciated in value after I left the dealer.
The Fed is printing printing printing, turning savers savings into confetti.
I got the same and same price! I got mine just on time as well ….. I got the last new 2019 in Canada lol $19500
Scotty is in such shock from being part of the car industry that his arms can't stop flailing
That's why I called them steelerships and not dealerships! Honda doesn't build them like they used to either I have a Honda side by side UTV and thousand miles and it burns oil! Everybody's just worried about the bottom line and not making a great product! Love your videos Scotty keep it up
Got a si in this color, it's alot of fun!
And here I am driving a 1981 Daihatsu.
I just got my Touring in this same color a month ago. I paid $33,000 for it. These markups are crazy.
You paid this for a civic????? Crazy mark-up, absolutely crazy.
Why didn't you say no lol
@@cakeboss1721 I had to have a car and everything is marked up right now. I wanted a Toyota Camry but in my area they are selling for $46,000. The civic was only a 2k markup so I got it instead. I had a 21 civic prior to this one and really liked it.
@@reginaalear why didn't you just keep the 2021 ?
@@cakeboss1721 take a wild guess
I got rid of my 2018 hatch, parts kept breaking, oil smelled like gas and i had to change it sooner than usual, transmission oil needed the same, ac didnt work and just felt flimsy. I miss older hondas.
Hello Mr Kilmer, can you please inform us about the new supra mk5 if it is worth it the manual one please thank you keep on making informative videos and i wish you health
The thieves are at their best. Don't buy from the dealer, private people are the way. You want new then spend high bucks!!! Simple as that! Scotty has a vlog a few ones back to watch on buying a car.. your the man scotty keep telling everyone what is really up!! God bless us all
Amen! Buy used from owners! Maybe not exactly what you want but with a little patience you can find great cars without the hassle and instant depreciation…
Private people are just as bad to be honest
The used car market is chalk full of the worst scum of our society. Ive veen trying to sell my accord in great condition and all i run into is low iq smoothbrains that think theyre smart when theyre negative IQ. Society has lost its mind. I dont want to buy or sell a car anymore. I dont evwn want normal jobs anymore, theyre all corrupted trash. Theyre enslaving us one robbery at a time. They rob you of a fortune for a clunker off the factory floor and then ecpect you to go get a job to pay for it just barely scraping by. These people getting loans for cars they cant afford and are getting robbed and they deserve it sonce they willingly want to get robbed. If you have to take put a loan to overpay 3x what an econobox should cost, you make bad financial decisions. Unhirable.
Thats assuming the person buying even has liquid cash to pay for a private owned car. Most people dont