Me and my dad bought a boat together but he passed away before I got to learn how to work the 2 stroke myself, this video is incredibly helpful and sweet..
@@ThePremiumsmore I love that he’s offering his videos and it’s finding it’s way to us kids that have heavenly dads. Thanks for the “virtual dad “ lessons! ❤️
@@klichtblauschierts9743 Here in the same boat..pun intended. Lost my mechanic genius dad early 2020...my guy and I just bought a boat and it definitely hurts a bit thinking about how happy he'd be to help and get out and enjoy the thing.
My condolences. My father taught me about mechanical things long ago. Living in the upper Mid-West, we didn't have much water around us. Now I live in Mississippi and want to take my grandchildren out on a small boat to teach them as I learn new stuff. Be well and happy boating.
Thanks, Wayne. It's good to know I'm not the only guy who struggled with that. When I first got my boat I had a heck of a time starting my two-stroke, messing with the choke, worrying about the gas mix, flooding the carb by over-clicking, didn't know about the mix. Still, I wish I would have found your video earlier so I wouldn't have had to learn all these things the hard way.
Thanks for the great video Wayne I'm sure it helped a lots of people. We all need reminders. When your done for the disconnect the fuel and the engine completely out of fuel let it run till it dies.
Cheers Wayne, I wen through exactly the same issue as you did. Took the boat to a mechanic to have a look at the motor and he couldn't find a problem with it. He told me the starting process exactly the way you described it. Turns out I was constantly flooding the engine.
@@outdoorswithjv1616 Correct. Be very cautious with the choke. Use it sparingly and generally only on the first start up of the day and only if it is necessary.
Wayne, thank you so much. I just bought a boat with a Evinrude 90 hp 2 stroke outboard. Probably 1983. I will take it out to lake first time next week. Your videos gave me confidence that I could own a boat. Thank you and please keep them coming. You are helping people like us so much.
@@joshuasmith2689 Actually a lot of people care and that is why two strokes have been banned in many lakes across America. Only an absolute knucklehead would call the fact a lie with respect to how much fuel they dump in the water unburned. That is a proven fact that has been known for decades you bozo!
This information is golden! It's one of those things that goes unrealized until it's go time. Thanks for taking the time to thoroughly explain the process.
I bought a boat 3 years ago with a 150 Evenrude 2 stroke on it and used it once....horrible time trying to start it... Day 1 was a total fail... killed the battery... Day 2, 2 days later it worked! Wife hated it so it sat for 3 years... after $1300 it's out of the shop...new stereo... tried to start it just now... battery didn't have the juice to fire it... and I completely forgot the process. GREAT video perfectly simple! Wish me luck tomorrow!
So sorry to hear your story - and I read it to my wife because our experience was similar but not quite as extreme. That's why I do this and I really appreciate your comment!! Thank you and stay tuned, because I am making a lot more content for new boaters!
I sincerely appreciate this, spent time on boats and water as a kid, plenty of 2 strokes, even had to start a few (although Dad usually did this for me), but never had to start a 2 stroke using a remote throttle, and no amount of Googling could tell me what the black flip lever was for, so THANK YOU.
Hi Wayne, just wanted to say thanks for the video, it seems like simple stuff for common boaters but boating is a total different animal than driving and or starting some boats. It's easy to overlook simple mistakes.
Hey Wayne, just wanted to say thank you for making this video. First time boat owner here. This saved my 3 day boat trip with the wife. 1000 thanks. Liked and subscribed. :)
I traded a 60 hp Mariner engine for a 90 hp Evinrude engine from our local boat dealer. I had asked him to keep an eye open for a larger motor that might get traded in. The dealer installed the 90 hp, but I have not taken out on the water yet. We are planning on going Labor Day Weekend. Today I was trying to start it and was not having any luck. I tried to call the dealer, but they were not in. I called a friend who has a pontoon with a 45 hp motor, but I couldn't reach him. I came in and pulled up your video and watched it then went out and followed your directions and it started right up!I Thank you so much! The dealer never explained how to push the key in while turning the key to inject fuel into the cylinders. Thank you very much! I will watch your other videos and like and share them as well. THANKS!
Most of the yamaha 90 hp 2 strokes don't have a choke. They have a fuel enrichment system that doesn't work well. Mine is hard to start first time but, starts instantly the rest of the day. Just make sure the primer bulb is pumped up completely and good luck.
My dad never taught me, said girls shouldn't drive boats, only taught my brother. I'm glad I'm a good listener and watched, and super grateful for TH-cam!
Glad im not alone, i just got my 1st 2 stroke engine and it hasnt started since i bought the boat 4weeks ago, ive spent nearly £50 on engine testing equipment and flywheel pullers etc and all along i didnt know the 'push key in for choke' until someone at the boat yard mentioned the 'secret choke' (i thought the fast idle lever was like a choke) and it fired up instantly😂, after spending a year cracking the art of starting a 40+yr old lister petter 2 cylinder diesel inboard engine ive now got to relearn the 2 stroke way
Thx for this video wayne. I haven't owned or operated a boat for years and the last time wad a 4 stroke. I bought a 2 stroke thinking it started the same way. This video absolutely saved me the headache. Altho my choke was the button below the lever, the concept was the same. Im now having a blast and dont gotta be scratching my head out at docks thinking somethings wrong with my boat
Thank you. I was wondering why my engine was not running right. It was hard to start to. I got it winter ready for the cold and never took it out on the water again. I was scared that it would not run. Now that you showed me how to do it. I will see if my motor is the same. When I first took it out on the water it was hard to start then I put it in gear right away then took off like a made man, because I didn't want it to stall at the boat lunch to look bad. Now I can't wait to take it on the water again. Thanks you so much for showing me your video. PS I would of ask my father but he has been past away now since 2009. Man,... how time fly's fast. Now it's March 17-2022
Glad to help!! I got so frustrated with mine before I figured it out. Once I mastered the cold start (and the warm start on the water) I was so much more comfortable with my boat!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! It was a nightmare to cold start my 2 stroke Mercury engine. I was never told about the choke signal. After the video I also confirmed tha my engine actually has that feature and now the nightmare is gone, THANKS TO YOU!!!
Hi Wayne. Tonight we‘ve been trying to start my merc 115 that hasn’t run since one outing in 2017. It wouldn’t start until we viewed your video - then it fired straight up. No one told me about the pressing! Thank you.
Thank you for this very informative video. Couldn't figure out why we couldn't start our boat quickly. Did this method, step by step and fired right up.
Thank you Wayne! I picked up an old boat last week that has this throttle control on it. The seller briefly spoke about pushing the key in but did not mention the idle adjuster and I’m looking at it thinking what does it do! So thank you very much. All the best.
Thank you so much for this video. I never knew the push in on my key on cold start either and that just made all the difference on my procraft 17 115hp 2stroke
Needed this vid...just bought a 78 manatee 115 evinrude...took it straight to shop...routine maintence..runs great...havent started it myself yet...boat shop showed me how..and with your vid..now i know about the push an turn and choke/ idle...ty
Great Video! Last Sunday I started my 2 stroke Evinrude 70 engine (just got it in two weeks) with press the key down at beginning. Later on, I could not start the engine on the lake again! I waited at least half hour then started engine. Now I know why. Because I pressed the key when I started the engine again. the engine flooded! Thanks for this very useful tips!
I just bought my first outboard- a 1965 Merc 1000 "Tower of Power" 100HP (Professionally rebuilt) mounted on a 1960 Glasspar Phaeton hardtop 17' boat. Boat has been restored throughout by the former owner. I've never used a hose muff for driveway starts, but will get one. I'll look for the idle control. I'll prime it, and try not to flood it with the push / turn cold start. It is a 2 stroke 6 cylinder beast of an outboard. A little intimidating, even though I run chainsaws daily. Adjusting the points when it needs it sounds like rocket science. And replacing the water pump every year or two was what I was advised. Supposedly, that's the Achille's heel of this engine. Okay. Just brought the boat home today, Minneapolis to Chicago. The boat is serial # 00001, and originally came with a 75 HP outboard, which was the biggest available in 1960. So, here goes. I'm ordering a service manual and hoping for the best. Long live the Towers!
Thanks a lot Wayne - this was super useful and helped me out! The motor started more or less directly when I followed your instructions. It’s a Johnson 75 HP Formula E 😊
I've always wondered how to activate the Johnson 175hp 2001 electric choke.....everytime I start I would remove the cowling and spray starting fluid in the carbs........you saved me a ton of work...thanks by the way am from the Caribbean, keep those videos coming.
Hi Am experiencing a leak in my steering cylinder, I have opened it up but it seems to have a plastic bushing......any idea how to remove it and where a replacement can be obtained?
i hope you are joking. you didnt think "hey... i should take this motor to a professional before I score the cylinders from starting fluid"? fyi there is no electric choke on that motor. its a key activated primer as in this video. your motor also has quickstart. make sure its working. if not it will be a bear to start.
Well that worked first try! Thank you. I couldn't figure out why my motor seemed to have a hard time for first start of the day and once it was warmed up it started every time. I fell like a bit of an idiot, but now i know. Thanks again.
Thank you for this. very helpful. After the first time I took my boat out it took awhile to start, flooded it, It cut out on the water, struggled to start up again. Thought I brought a lemon. After watching this had no issues. Cheers
Hey mate, i have issues trying to restart the boat. Similar feeling to you about buying a lemon haha. After I've been out on the water, how do i restart? black lever fully down and no choke? 90hp Mercury Force
@@WayneTheBoatGuy hey wayne , i have a 70 hp johnson two stroke (older motor) , it uses a 50 to 1 mix ... can you tell me if there is also a reservoir of 2 stroke oil anywhere that i should know about ???
Great Wayne! - Fresh gas with enough octane to back you up with one inhale. If it doesn't do that hang up and go elsewhere. I put one gallon in the tow vehicle then fill my cans. Fresh! lol.
thank you for the knowledge wayne, i have a johnson 140 and launched it for the first time today and my throttle control does not have that idle control lever.. still doing research but i guess i definitely flooded it like you did lol
Some controls have a button in the middle that you press at the same time as you engage the throttle. This allows you to keep it in neutral and throttle up. You just need to press the button until the throttle moves forward a little then you can let go of the button. Once you’ve started your engine you can bring the throttle back to idle and you’ll hear a “click.” That means you’re out of neutral and can engage in forward or reverse. Hope this helps.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy nice info on not choking the engine after starting. I would add "the tell tale" should not be hot water coming out as one final test before heading on for a *RELAXING* day on the water. If the water is hot to the touch she's not cooling that very hot engine properly and hence why the "tell-tale" in the first place.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Thank you for the very informative video! Can you make a video on how you get back with boat if the engine let you down in middle of the waters ? the options? paddling? 911 towing? elec mini outboard? Thanks
I went through the same headache when I first got this motor. Flooding & a million cranks. I have the 93 so on my control I have to push a button to bypass the neutral switch to advance the throttle.
i've never had our 2 stroke VRO 60HP start that easily after a couple months sitting. after a week sure it works. would love to see a cold start technique after a solid sit out
Even after winter storage this one would fire up right away. Last year I had intended to shoot a video of what it was like starting it up after 5 months and it only took 5 seconds longer.
I noticed that you use Grey fuel line. I know they sell it to use on boats, but I have heard it does not hold up well? I have a 1962 Evenrude 75 hp. It was the first year of Selectric Shift & I made it direct drive for reliability. I have an electric trolling motor & paddles if I need to maneuver near the dock. I choke the engine to initially start at the dock only. The engine only starts/cranks in slow position. I normally take the boat on lake Erie for Perch fishing.
I have an Evinrude 75 VRO 1993 - a couple other things to pay attention to - after winter storage you may need to clean the spark plugs if you used fogging oil. Also on mine, the idler throttle is trickier because it is combined into the primary throttle / gear control (yours seems like a mercury control?). There is a large round button on the side of the control that you have to push in with your other hand to put the throttle in "neutral fast idle". Nothing says that on the control of course. Also you have to have your safety switch plugged in or there will be no fire to the spark plugs even though the motor will turn over. This switch (which comes with a lanyard to attach to the driver to prevent the boat from continuing if you fall overboard) can go bad - and you can turn over the motor forever but be getting no spark to the plugs. Quirky to say the least!
My eco ride vro 60 is cold natured as heck but once it’s worm it runs great. Everything original nothing has been replaced except the electronic motor to lift the engine
I really like how you explained that. A lot of videos leave out things that they might think is obvious but as a first time boat owner it not always so obvious. Thanks
A little tid bit- Pushing the key in is a choke function, effecting the air taken in by the carburetor. It does not squirt fuel. Nice video, good quality!!
Actually I was surprised when working on the carbs and replacing all the fuel lines under my cowl that it does in fact squirt fuel. There were two carbs, and two hoses that squirted fuel right into the carbs. I have heard that on other models it sets the choke, but that’s what it did on mine.
I played with it for 5 minutes when I first saw how mine worked and it explained why mine would completely flood with one push of that button when the engine was warm!
I have a older Mercury 80 horse 2-stroke is it the black and yellow wire that shorts out the ignition to ground shuts the motor down or is it something I'm missing motor runs just can't shut it off thanks for your help
Thank you, this is extremely helpful. I just got my first boat and it has a 1975 Johnson 70HP on it with similar controls; I cannot find the owner's manual anywhere online to explain the start up procedure, and I don't know anyone with a boat either... I was struggling to get it going with what I think is a momentary toggle switch for the choke beneath the key (probably equivalent to what you activate when you push your key in) and wondering how to incorporate the 'warming lever'. I did get it to go eventually with a huge pile of white smoke, so obviously flooded the sucker with fuel. Anyway I'm looking forward to trying again now that I've seen this.
Awesome - good luck!!! It takes some patience and 'finesse' sometimes to learn the starting procedures. Also it can be quite different after it's been running for a while and the engine is warm. Mine usually only needs a simple turn of the key if it's been running.
The toggle switch beneath the key for your 70hp Johnson is for the electric "choke". Triggering the switch causes a solenoid to close choke plates in the air intakes for each of the engine's three carburetors, thereby enriching the fuel-to-air mixture. The trick is to hold the toggle switch when starting only until the engine fires, then immediately release. If the motor starts to shut off after a few seconds a quick flip and release of the toggle switch should help with keeping it running. Depending on how cold the engine and atmospheric conditions may be, it may help if you quickly flip and release the toggle than once before it will idle if the engine struggles to stay running for a few seconds right after starting. (Note: I had experience with an open bow Glastron boat powered by a similar model-year 70 hp Johnson outboard). Contrastingly, the "push in" key switch on Wayne's later model (four-cylinder) motor causes a shot of extra fuel to be injected into the engine. However this triggers an enrichener on the carburetor and does not work the same as a true "choke" which is designed to restrict airflow through the carburetor(s). (Note that: I also have experience with a '93 model 88 hp Johnson outboard which is equipped with this type of fuel-enrichener. Both methods accomplish the same results, which is to provide the engines with more fuel and less air momentarily to assist with starting them when cold.
Can you please do a video how you dock the boat after you are done. I'm so nervous to dock our pontoon because of it dying when trying to reverse when going so slow. But hubby is deploying and I know I'll want to take our pontoon out so I need tips. Can you please post a video showing dock and showing your process with that shifter thing I would soo appreciate it!
Docking can be, might be, the hardest thing to do! Going very slow, using a boat hook/pole, and having an assistant who knows how to help are key. But I honestly try to do it solo most of the time. Here's a link to how to use the shifter - th-cam.com/video/XQxYiQe40Dg/w-d-xo.html
Disengage the prop as if you’re starting it on land. Usually done by pressing in the knob on the control lever (where it pivots). When you’re confident you know how to disengage the prop, push the control forward as if you’re going wide open throttle and then start it. Just be sure to quickly move it back to neutral in order to lower the RPM
Thanks this has helped me a lot! I just bought a boat with a 84’ evinrude without ever even have driven a boat before. I probably spent like 4 hours trying to get my motor started before watching this 😂 and how does your oil injection system work?
The oil injection system apparently was how many of these were set up as new, but most people bypass the system and use 50:1 oil fuel mix because the system wasn't very reliable. The oil injection system worked with a separate oil reservoir connected to the engine that automatically pumped in oil based on engine RPM (I think). Good luck with your "new" boat!!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy the early v 1 VRO systems in 1984-1985 did have issues, but after that they were extremely reliable. sadly the reputation damage during that short time was done.
Hello Mr Wayne hope I can get a reply but I have a question so after you get it running and all and you shut it off and try to turn it back on. No more choke right? Only use the choke to start it up in the beginning am I correct?
My electric choke plunger is broken on my Mercury 2 stroke. So, I have to manually choke the engine. But once the engine starts, just take the choke off.
It really is a matter of figuring out what your particular engine needs to get started. I would push mine in as I was cranking and then it would usually fire right up.
Hi there - great video! I just picked up an old fishing boat I am restoring - it has a 1982 Evinrude 90 hp on it. What ratio do I mix the oil and gas for? 50:1? Only ever had a four stroke but this engine runs and was basically free! Thanks
Wayne!! Thanks, I recently bought my first boat, w 70hp 2 Stroke Evinrude from the 80's. Shop has already gone thru it, I have started with muffs in my drive....my question is on the idler control. Do you adjust that while underway....or once you are up and running does that stay down? I feel I have seen that lever pushed up with the throttle when boats are coming up to cruising speed?
Because you're running an old 2 stroke, it can be from a few things. If the seal behind the prop is bad, if the lower unit is leaking, if the engine isn't running properly, if there's too much oil in the mix (wrong ratio for the engine), and also 2 strokes actually exhaust oil during normal operation - so there might always be a little.
My dad passed in September, so I no longer can ask him these things- so thank you! 🙏🌱❤️
Me and my dad bought a boat together but he passed away before I got to learn how to work the 2 stroke myself, this video is incredibly helpful and sweet..
@@ThePremiumsmore I love that he’s offering his videos and it’s finding it’s way to us kids that have heavenly dads. Thanks for the “virtual dad “ lessons! ❤️
@@klichtblauschierts9743 Here in the same boat..pun intended. Lost my mechanic genius dad early 2020...my guy and I just bought a boat and it definitely hurts a bit thinking about how happy he'd be to help and get out and enjoy the thing.
@@caitlynmeyer2109 awwwww, look at us earth orphan big kids and our online step in boat dad! Yay for boat dad! So appreciated!❤️🙏🌱
My condolences. My father taught me about mechanical things long ago. Living in the upper Mid-West, we didn't have much water around us. Now I live in Mississippi and want to take my grandchildren out on a small boat to teach them as I learn new stuff. Be well and happy boating.
Thanks, Wayne. It's good to know I'm not the only guy who struggled with that. When I first got my boat I had a heck of a time starting my two-stroke, messing with the choke, worrying about the gas mix, flooding the carb by over-clicking, didn't know about the mix. Still, I wish I would have found your video earlier so I wouldn't have had to learn all these things the hard way.
Thanks for the great video Wayne I'm sure it helped a lots of people. We all need reminders. When your done for the disconnect the fuel and the engine completely out of fuel let it run till it dies.
Cheers Wayne, I wen through exactly the same issue as you did. Took the boat to a mechanic to have a look at the motor and he couldn't find a problem with it. He told me the starting process exactly the way you described it. Turns out I was constantly flooding the engine.
So only use the choke to start it? After no more choke?
@@outdoorswithjv1616 Correct. Be very cautious with the choke. Use it sparingly and generally only on the first start up of the day and only if it is necessary.
@@joshuasmith2689 thank you!
Wayne, thank you so much. I just bought a boat with a Evinrude 90 hp 2 stroke outboard. Probably 1983. I will take it out to lake first time next week. Your videos gave me confidence that I could own a boat. Thank you and please keep them coming. You are helping people like us so much.
I'm glad to help - have fun!
Thank you very much !!!!
Just know that old two-stroke motor is dumping about 30% of its fuel unburned into the water. Your neighbors will really thank you for that.
@@boblatkey7160 Lies. Plus, no one cares.
@@joshuasmith2689 Actually a lot of people care and that is why two strokes have been banned in many lakes across America. Only an absolute knucklehead would call the fact a lie with respect to how much fuel they dump in the water unburned. That is a proven fact that has been known for decades you bozo!
This information is golden! It's one of those things that goes unrealized until it's go time. Thanks for taking the time to thoroughly explain the process.
Glad it was helpful!
I bought a boat 3 years ago with a 150 Evenrude 2 stroke on it and used it once....horrible time trying to start it... Day 1 was a total fail... killed the battery... Day 2, 2 days later it worked! Wife hated it so it sat for 3 years... after $1300 it's out of the shop...new stereo... tried to start it just now... battery didn't have the juice to fire it... and I completely forgot the process. GREAT video perfectly simple! Wish me luck tomorrow!
So sorry to hear your story - and I read it to my wife because our experience was similar but not quite as extreme. That's why I do this and I really appreciate your comment!! Thank you and stay tuned, because I am making a lot more content for new boaters!
I sincerely appreciate this, spent time on boats and water as a kid, plenty of 2 strokes, even had to start a few (although Dad usually did this for me), but never had to start a 2 stroke using a remote throttle, and no amount of Googling could tell me what the black flip lever was for, so THANK YOU.
Hi Wayne, just wanted to say thanks for the video, it seems like simple stuff for common boaters but boating is a total different animal than driving and or starting some boats. It's easy to overlook simple mistakes.
Hey Wayne, just wanted to say thank you for making this video. First time boat owner here. This saved my 3 day boat trip with the wife. 1000 thanks. Liked and subscribed. :)
I traded a 60 hp Mariner engine for a 90 hp Evinrude engine from our local boat dealer. I had asked him to keep an eye open for a larger motor that might get traded in. The dealer installed the 90 hp, but I have not taken out on the water yet. We are planning on going Labor Day Weekend. Today I was trying to start it and was not having any luck. I tried to call the dealer, but they were not in. I called a friend who has a pontoon with a 45 hp motor, but I couldn't reach him. I came in and pulled up your video and watched it then went out and followed your directions and it started right up!I Thank you so much! The dealer never explained how to push the key in while turning the key to inject fuel into the cylinders. Thank you very much! I will watch your other videos and like and share them as well. THANKS!
Most of the yamaha 90 hp 2 strokes don't have a choke. They have a fuel enrichment system that doesn't work well. Mine is hard to start first time but, starts instantly the rest of the day. Just make sure the primer bulb is pumped up completely and good luck.
My dad never taught me, said girls shouldn't drive boats, only taught my brother. I'm glad I'm a good listener and watched, and super grateful for TH-cam!
I am working on a new video with a female captain that will be coming out very soon.
Glad im not alone, i just got my 1st 2 stroke engine and it hasnt started since i bought the boat 4weeks ago, ive spent nearly £50 on engine testing equipment and flywheel pullers etc and all along i didnt know the 'push key in for choke' until someone at the boat yard mentioned the 'secret choke' (i thought the fast idle lever was like a choke) and it fired up instantly😂, after spending a year cracking the art of starting a 40+yr old lister petter 2 cylinder diesel inboard engine ive now got to relearn the 2 stroke way
Thx for this video wayne. I haven't owned or operated a boat for years and the last time wad a 4 stroke. I bought a 2 stroke thinking it started the same way. This video absolutely saved me the headache. Altho my choke was the button below the lever, the concept was the same. Im now having a blast and dont gotta be scratching my head out at docks thinking somethings wrong with my boat
Super appreciate the explanation as I’m a newbie to the 2 stroke engine and was flooding my boat when restarting it. Thanks so much!
Thank you. I was wondering why my engine was not running right. It was hard to start to. I got it winter ready for the cold and never took it out on the water again. I was scared that it would not run. Now that you showed me how to do it. I will see if my motor is the same. When I first took it out on the water it was hard to start then I put it in gear right away then took off like a made man, because I didn't want it to stall at the boat lunch to look bad. Now I can't wait to take it on the water again. Thanks you so much for showing me your video. PS I would of ask my father but he has been past away now since 2009. Man,... how time fly's fast. Now it's March 17-2022
Glad to help!! I got so frustrated with mine before I figured it out. Once I mastered the cold start (and the warm start on the water) I was so much more comfortable with my boat!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! It was a nightmare to cold start my 2 stroke Mercury engine. I was never told about the choke signal. After the video I also confirmed tha my engine actually has that feature and now the nightmare is gone, THANKS TO YOU!!!
So happy this helped!
As a diy boat mechanic.... it sounds like you have a nicely running outboard. All the best.
Thanks! That motor did run great.
Hi Wayne. Tonight we‘ve been trying to start my merc 115 that hasn’t run since one outing in 2017. It wouldn’t start until we viewed your video - then it fired straight up. No one told me about the pressing! Thank you.
Nice!
Thank you for this very informative video. Couldn't figure out why we couldn't start our boat quickly. Did this method, step by step and fired right up.
So good to hear!!
Yes this video was very helpful. I just was given a '97 Seaark Sun Tastic. Never own a boat before. Learning as I go.
Thank you Wayne! I picked up an old boat last week that has this throttle control on it. The seller briefly spoke about pushing the key in but did not mention the idle adjuster and I’m looking at it thinking what does it do! So thank you very much. All the best.
Thank you so much for this video. I never knew the push in on my key on cold start either and that just made all the difference on my procraft 17 115hp 2stroke
I'm glad it helped!
Needed this vid...just bought a 78 manatee 115 evinrude...took it straight to shop...routine maintence..runs great...havent started it myself yet...boat shop showed me how..and with your vid..now i know about the push an turn and choke/ idle...ty
Thank you for taking us out on a little joyride with you that was great fun!!
This was great. I've been under the impressions that my 2 stroke just takes 5-6 tries to start!
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just bought a 1985 Johnson 40hp two stroke bass boat. This is exactly what I needed. Thank you.
Thank you. Just bought a boat with 2000 Johnson V4 . I do know a little about carburettors though from past experience..
2 strokes for life!!!
Great Video! Last Sunday I started my 2 stroke Evinrude 70 engine (just got it in two weeks) with press the key down at beginning. Later on, I could not start the engine on the lake again! I waited at least half hour then started engine. Now I know why. Because I pressed the key when I started the engine again. the engine flooded! Thanks for this very useful tips!
Just remember that you're dumping about 30% of your fuel unburned into the water so your neighbors will be very thankful of you.
I just bought my first outboard- a 1965 Merc 1000 "Tower of Power" 100HP (Professionally rebuilt) mounted on a 1960 Glasspar Phaeton hardtop 17' boat. Boat has been restored throughout by the former owner. I've never used a hose muff for driveway starts, but will get one. I'll look for the idle control. I'll prime it, and try not to flood it with the push / turn cold start. It is a 2 stroke 6 cylinder beast of an outboard. A little intimidating, even though I run chainsaws daily. Adjusting the points when it needs it sounds like rocket science. And replacing the water pump every year or two was what I was advised. Supposedly, that's the Achille's heel of this engine. Okay. Just brought the boat home today, Minneapolis to Chicago. The boat is serial # 00001, and originally came with a 75 HP outboard, which was the biggest available in 1960. So, here goes. I'm ordering a service manual and hoping for the best. Long live the Towers!
Those “Tower of Power” Mercurys might just be the coolest old outboard motors ever. It sounds like you’re off to a really good start!
finally a video that actually helped me
Thanks a lot Wayne - this was super useful and helped me out! The motor started more or less directly when I followed your instructions. It’s a Johnson 75 HP Formula E 😊
Great to hear!
The best money can buy 👌
Thank you sir for this video. Just bought a boat 100hp Johnson it I got a hard time last year.
I follow these step it work for me.
Thank you 🙏
That's why I do this! Good luck - stay safe!!
Father, thank you! On the first day I couldn't start the engine. I was very upset. Now it starts on the first try. Be happy since you made me happy)
Thanks so much just got my first 2 stroke same gas can and everything thanks my man your the best !
I've always wondered how to activate the Johnson 175hp 2001 electric choke.....everytime I start I would remove the cowling and spray starting fluid in the carbs........you saved me a ton of work...thanks
by the way am from the Caribbean, keep those videos coming.
Glad to help and thanks!
Hi
Am experiencing a leak in my steering cylinder, I have opened it up but it seems to have a plastic bushing......any idea how to remove it and where a replacement can be obtained?
i hope you are joking. you didnt think "hey... i should take this motor to a professional before I score the cylinders from starting fluid"? fyi there is no electric choke on that motor. its a key activated primer as in this video. your motor also has quickstart. make sure its working. if not it will be a bear to start.
Well that worked first try! Thank you. I couldn't figure out why my motor seemed to have a hard time for first start of the day and once it was warmed up it started every time. I fell like a bit of an idiot, but now i know. Thanks again.
So happy to help!!
Thank you for this. very helpful. After the first time I took my boat out it took awhile to start, flooded it, It cut out on the water, struggled to start up again. Thought I brought a lemon. After watching this had no issues. Cheers
Awesome!
Hey mate, i have issues trying to restart the boat. Similar feeling to you about buying a lemon haha. After I've been out on the water, how do i restart? black lever fully down and no choke? 90hp Mercury Force
great info wayne , especially the pushing in of the key ... now the motor started !!! ha ha ha ... thanx again .
Thanks for watching and commenting - have fun out there!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy hey wayne , i have a 70 hp johnson two stroke (older motor) , it uses a 50 to 1 mix ... can you tell me if there is also a reservoir of 2 stroke oil anywhere that i should know about ???
Thanks! Just started mine for the first time yesterday!
Great Wayne! - Fresh gas with enough octane to back you up with one inhale. If it doesn't do that hang up and go elsewhere. I put one gallon in the tow vehicle then fill my cans. Fresh! lol.
Excellent video, Wayne. I've been flooding my 93 90hp evinrude for years not realizing it shoots fuel into the carbs. Thank you!
Glad to help!!
its VERY difficult to flood a V4 crossflow motor! What is your starting procedure that makes you think its flooding?
The internet's boat dad at it again great video
Thanks mate, this is a great video, helps me understands the operational functions on my two stroke.
That's awesome - Glad it helped!
Thanks very much Wayne . Great video . I had this problem too but its sorted now . Thanks again.
I was struggling getting my 2007 mercury started and then I tried a little less choke and it’s starts just like yours thanks for the video
Getting the choke just right is often the key! Glad you got it running!!
thank you for the knowledge wayne, i have a johnson 140 and launched it for the first time today and my throttle control does not have that idle control lever.. still doing research but i guess i definitely flooded it like you did lol
Some controls have a button in the middle that you press at the same time as you engage the throttle. This allows you to keep it in neutral and throttle up. You just need to press the button until the throttle moves forward a little then you can let go of the button. Once you’ve started your engine you can bring the throttle back to idle and you’ll hear a “click.” That means you’re out of neutral and can engage in forward or reverse. Hope this helps.
thank you i was lost without your video
Glad I could help!!
Great job Wayne! That started very well
Thanks!
Nice video Wayne. Corny maritime pun incoming but I am also “in the same boat” as a first-time owner. Good luck with it!
Best of luck! And thank you for watching! Let me know if there's a topic you want me to cover.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy nice info on not choking the engine after starting. I would add "the tell tale" should not be hot water coming out as one final test before heading on for a *RELAXING* day on the water. If the water is hot to the touch she's not cooling that very hot engine properly and hence why the "tell-tale" in the first place.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Thank you for the very informative video!
Can you make a video on how you get back with boat if the engine let you down in middle of the waters ? the options? paddling? 911 towing? elec mini outboard?
Thanks
I went through the same headache when I first got this motor. Flooding & a million cranks. I have the 93 so on my control I have to push a button to bypass the neutral switch to advance the throttle.
Thank you pushing the key was the key
You're welcome!
love the way you explained it and love the hat Italia
❤️ Italy!
i've never had our 2 stroke VRO 60HP start that easily after a couple months sitting. after a week sure it works. would love to see a cold start technique after a solid sit out
Even after winter storage this one would fire up right away. Last year I had intended to shoot a video of what it was like starting it up after 5 months and it only took 5 seconds longer.
I noticed that you use Grey fuel line.
I know they sell it to use on boats, but I have heard it does not hold up well?
I have a 1962 Evenrude 75 hp.
It was the first year of Selectric Shift & I made it direct drive for reliability.
I have an electric trolling motor & paddles if I need to maneuver near the dock.
I choke the engine to initially start at the dock only.
The engine only starts/cranks in slow position.
I normally take the boat on lake Erie for Perch fishing.
I have an Evinrude 75 VRO 1993 - a couple other things to pay attention to - after winter storage you may need to clean the spark plugs if you used fogging oil. Also on mine, the idler throttle is trickier because it is combined into the primary throttle / gear control (yours seems like a mercury control?). There is a large round button on the side of the control that you have to push in with your other hand to put the throttle in "neutral fast idle". Nothing says that on the control of course. Also you have to have your safety switch plugged in or there will be no fire to the spark plugs even though the motor will turn over. This switch (which comes with a lanyard to attach to the driver to prevent the boat from continuing if you fall overboard) can go bad - and you can turn over the motor forever but be getting no spark to the plugs. Quirky to say the least!
Perfect info👍thanks just how I start my 2 stroke
Hey Wayne, love the videos. I just got my first boat in VB. Wish me luck of I'll be calling you for s tow 😂
Very cool.
My eco ride vro 60 is cold natured as heck but once it’s worm it runs great. Everything original nothing has been replaced except the electronic motor to lift the engine
Thanks Wayne, hoping to get a boat soon. This is good info for me.
Thanks mate I just bought a Pride Panther with the same motor (Johnson version) Im in Australia. Cheers
My pleasure! Is yours still oil injected or do you run oil/gas mix?
@@WayneTheBoatGuy its a premix jobby
I really like how you explained that. A lot of videos leave out things that they might think is obvious but as a first time boat owner it not always so obvious. Thanks
A little tid bit- Pushing the key in is a choke function, effecting the air taken in by the carburetor. It does not squirt fuel.
Nice video, good quality!!
Actually I was surprised when working on the carbs and replacing all the fuel lines under my cowl that it does in fact squirt fuel. There were two carbs, and two hoses that squirted fuel right into the carbs. I have heard that on other models it sets the choke, but that’s what it did on mine.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Well Wayne, I apologize, that's interesting!
I played with it for 5 minutes when I first saw how mine worked and it explained why mine would completely flood with one push of that button when the engine was warm!
Exactly what I needed. Thanks Mr. Wayne!
I wish all videos were this simple. Trying to find out what the knob that says idle stop on my jonson control does
That might possibly be how you set the idle speed or the engine cut off - I'm not sure - sorry!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Very helpful video! :)
No mention about having the breather on your tank open during operation? (provided your tank has one)
I have a older Mercury 80 horse 2-stroke is it the black and yellow wire that shorts out the ignition to ground shuts the motor down or is it something I'm missing motor runs just can't shut it off thanks for your help
Thank you, this is extremely helpful. I just got my first boat and it has a 1975 Johnson 70HP on it with similar controls; I cannot find the owner's manual anywhere online to explain the start up procedure, and I don't know anyone with a boat either... I was struggling to get it going with what I think is a momentary toggle switch for the choke beneath the key (probably equivalent to what you activate when you push your key in) and wondering how to incorporate the 'warming lever'. I did get it to go eventually with a huge pile of white smoke, so obviously flooded the sucker with fuel. Anyway I'm looking forward to trying again now that I've seen this.
Awesome - good luck!!! It takes some patience and 'finesse' sometimes to learn the starting procedures. Also it can be quite different after it's been running for a while and the engine is warm. Mine usually only needs a simple turn of the key if it's been running.
The toggle switch beneath the key for your 70hp Johnson is for the electric "choke". Triggering the switch causes a solenoid to close choke plates in the air intakes for each of the engine's three carburetors, thereby enriching the fuel-to-air mixture. The trick is to hold the toggle switch when starting only until the engine fires, then immediately release. If the motor starts to shut off after a few seconds a quick flip and release of the toggle switch should help with keeping it running. Depending on how cold the engine and atmospheric conditions may be, it may help if you quickly flip and release the toggle than once before it will idle if the engine struggles to stay running for a few seconds right after starting. (Note: I had experience with an open bow Glastron boat powered by a similar model-year 70 hp Johnson outboard). Contrastingly, the "push in" key switch on Wayne's later model (four-cylinder) motor causes a shot of extra fuel to be injected into the engine. However this triggers an enrichener on the carburetor and does not work the same as a true "choke" which is designed to restrict airflow through the carburetor(s). (Note that: I also have experience with a '93 model 88 hp Johnson outboard which is equipped with this type of fuel-enrichener. Both methods accomplish the same results, which is to provide the engines with more fuel and less air momentarily to assist with starting them when cold.
@@smoothsailin7294 thanks so much this is really helpful
There’s a rotating knob in the front that says throttle friction . What is it used for?
I just purchased a boat with a 2 stroke 125 Mercury. It doesn't have an idle adjustment on the controller.
Any hints on why my Johnson 90 hp won’t trim down? Is there a stop I need to remove or something? I can hear it wanting to move but it won’t.
Just what I was looking for thank you
Nice so I want to know that my shifters not broken , can you throttle up while in gear my boat locks that throttle lever
No the little lever is just for idle.
Very usefull for beginner! 👏
Thanks for your help
Thank you wayne
Can you please do a video how you dock the boat after you are done. I'm so nervous to dock our pontoon because of it dying when trying to reverse when going so slow. But hubby is deploying and I know I'll want to take our pontoon out so I need tips. Can you please post a video showing dock and showing your process with that shifter thing I would soo appreciate it!
Docking can be, might be, the hardest thing to do! Going very slow, using a boat hook/pole, and having an assistant who knows how to help are key. But I honestly try to do it solo most of the time. Here's a link to how to use the shifter - th-cam.com/video/XQxYiQe40Dg/w-d-xo.html
What do you do when it floods? How do you correct the flooding to re-start the engine?
There's a few things you can do when it floods. Open the choke all the way and try to start it, and/or wait to let some of the fuel evaporate
Disengage the prop as if you’re starting it on land. Usually done by pressing in the knob on the control lever (where it pivots). When you’re confident you know how to disengage the prop, push the control forward as if you’re going wide open throttle and then start it. Just be sure to quickly move it back to neutral in order to lower the RPM
Gday Wayne. Do you know of a downloadable manual for this motor? Cheers
Thanks this has helped me a lot! I just bought a boat with a 84’ evinrude without ever even have driven a boat before. I probably spent like 4 hours trying to get my motor started before watching this 😂 and how does your oil injection system work?
The oil injection system apparently was how many of these were set up as new, but most people bypass the system and use 50:1 oil fuel mix because the system wasn't very reliable. The oil injection system worked with a separate oil reservoir connected to the engine that automatically pumped in oil based on engine RPM (I think). Good luck with your "new" boat!!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy the early v 1 VRO systems in 1984-1985 did have issues, but after that they were extremely reliable. sadly the reputation damage during that short time was done.
Thank you. 👍
YES! Thank you!
Great video!
Thanks!
Thanks again, real good.
Process the same on a warm start after a day of drifting?
Hello Mr Wayne hope I can get a reply but I have a question so after you get it running and all and you shut it off and try to turn it back on. No more choke right? Only use the choke to start it up in the beginning am I correct?
Yes that is right.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy ok thank you for the reply!
Thank you for sharing.
What’s that knob below the key for
Hi Wayne, I was wondering what that knob is under the ignition key?
Did you ever figure that out? I’ve been searching forever and can’t find an answer I have the same question.
@@shawnmcclary7523 it's a tension screw so your throttle doesn't speed up or slow down.
Thanks! I Learned something today
My electric choke plunger is broken on my Mercury 2 stroke. So, I have to manually choke the engine. But once the engine starts, just take the choke off.
Do you press the key in and out once or twice, repeatedly, or hold it in?
It really is a matter of figuring out what your particular engine needs to get started. I would push mine in as I was cranking and then it would usually fire right up.
Hi there - great video! I just picked up an old fishing boat I am restoring - it has a 1982 Evinrude 90 hp on it. What ratio do I mix the oil and gas for? 50:1? Only ever had a four stroke but this engine runs and was basically free! Thanks
Yes. 50:1 for the Johnson/Evinrude 2 stroke of that age.
Wayne!! Thanks, I recently bought my first boat, w 70hp 2 Stroke Evinrude from the 80's. Shop has already gone thru it, I have started with muffs in my drive....my question is on the idler control. Do you adjust that while underway....or once you are up and running does that stay down? I feel I have seen that lever pushed up with the throttle when boats are coming up to cruising speed?
You shouldnt be able to shift out of neutral if the idler control is lifted..
Good choice of music.
I have a 115hp evinrude ..... that leaves oil stain in the water when run
..... what do you think it is you can help me
Because you're running an old 2 stroke, it can be from a few things. If the seal behind the prop is bad, if the lower unit is leaking, if the engine isn't running properly, if there's too much oil in the mix (wrong ratio for the engine), and also 2 strokes actually exhaust oil during normal operation - so there might always be a little.
The oil pump was removed by the previous owner ….. 50:1 ? mix
thank you!
You're welcome!