How Project M Saved Many Mid to Low Tiers

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  • @21Handguns
    @21Handguns 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    Brawl mods continue to prove when it comes to actual love and passion, no one does it better than the community for it and most likely will remain the most dedicated and passionate modding community for any of the games in the series.

    • @_G.C
      @_G.C 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm just glad they continue to mod it specifically since I enjoy its aesthetic the most. Giving a bright and colorful cast a dirty grungy tone was pretty experimental at the time

    • @21Handguns
      @21Handguns 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@_G.C honestly based. Besides Mario and Luigi's weird realistic overalls, making all the characters go into a slightly more mature style while not losing elements of what made them who they are is definitely very difficult and so easy to mess up, but they nailed it easily.
      Id rather have a semi realistic smash with actual detailed effects than the shit uktimate is doing thats for surr

    • @_G.C
      @_G.C 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@21Handguns My thing with ultimate is how washed out some of the colors look, like pikachu or zelda. On certain maps they look bleached almost, not to mention the switch not being able to handle advanced lighting so when you look closer at some models the shadows look really pixelated

    • @21Handguns
      @21Handguns 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_G.C yeah a lot of the colors are washed out and models are not as detailed/shaded properly loke they were in sm4sh.the effects went from explosive realism to 2d anime slash effects like bruh. I get probably because its a handheld and they needed to make over 60+ characters so in that context its okay but still
      Maybe we are just nostalgic af but idk. All the old smash games before 4 and ultimate had charm or magic in them. The new ones not so much unfortunately

    • @_G.C
      @_G.C 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@21Handguns Not to mention how are they going to follow up on it? They called it smash ultimate, included the most characters and stages to date, and basically jumped the shark as a whole. The main thing I could see them doing is rebooting it with less characters, more refined and updated movesets, and just overhauls in general when needed

  • @Spencer-sn8cz
    @Spencer-sn8cz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Everyday I close my eyes and hope that when I open them back up... Smash Ultimate Squirtle would be even half as cool as PM+ Squirtle.

    • @Pyrozard
      @Pyrozard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Feel the EXACT same for my boy Charizard.
      Hope in the next smash game they separate Pokémon trainer and give each pokemon more love.

    • @triple-d2640
      @triple-d2640 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hope there is a next​@@Pyrozard

    • @SimoneBellomonte
      @SimoneBellomonte 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@PyrozardNah keep Pokémon Trainer as is his swap character mechanics is really cool.

    • @sablesalt
      @sablesalt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SimoneBellomonte for being barely functional?

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That would ruin the whole point of their inclusion that you mine as well get rid of the second Ice climber. Smash ultimate pretty much perfected the pokemon trainer idea, considered to be one of the best designed characters.

  • @StanleySophana
    @StanleySophana 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    3.0 Mewtwo definitely showed all of us that it was the world's strongest Pokemon

  • @projectz358
    @projectz358 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The fan mod that made me wish ultimate was like this, proper buffs.

    • @forestskilbred9461
      @forestskilbred9461 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You should check out HDR for Ultimate, it's basically that.

    • @projectz358
      @projectz358 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @forestskilbred9461 HDR is so cool man.
      I can not go back to vanilla. Next smash game, I'm gonna wait for mods.

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@projectz358 Unfortunately, Nintendo won't allow it at majors, along with Smash Remix, a mod I'd argue is just as good as P+.
      It also desperately needs it's own version of Slippi like Melee. You have to find other people to play it. Combine that with the lack of large tournaments, and it makes it hard to justify investing a lot of time to play it seriously.
      Ultimate had the potential to be P+ if they just reverted to the Brawl/Melee physics engine and brought back the ability to do all the tech. They didn't even keep DACUS, the one cool advanced tech from Brawl.

    • @randompog8493
      @randompog8493 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@projectz358I know right
      Actual combos for EVERY CHARACTER not just Mario and all the other brawlers and real non brawl hitstun
      I would play it if I wasn't afraid of bricking my switch or getting in hot water with my PC

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@projectz358 Is movement more fluid than in Ultimate? I've always felt like Ultimate felt kinda stiff and rigid.

  • @FL-uj7cs
    @FL-uj7cs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I remember after one PM update I, a filthy casual, was playing a buffed Lucas against my competitive Fox/Falco-main friend. I beat him handily and he was speechless lmao. Funny memory.
    We need a part 2 with more characters!

  • @BigDnotimpressed
    @BigDnotimpressed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bowser actually won the very first Project M Major. Via a player named Kirk at The Big House 3. He beat a player who eliminated Mew2King in the same tournament.

  • @toastdtech3597
    @toastdtech3597 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Now its time for the most balanced smash game, brawl minius

  • @brettmartens6253
    @brettmartens6253 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Charizard was one of my favourite changed characters in Project M.
    I have so many memories of using the down b glide to chase opponents upward and glide around the stage. It's too bad none of the later iterations used this move.
    Then you add in his lanky tail attacks. Heat wave. Throw it in a pot. Baby, you got a stew going!
    Would love to see you cover charizard someday! But I can't complain too much since you already talked about my other two mains, DK and Mewtwo

    • @bobbob7885
      @bobbob7885 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you feel about Thunder Punch in P+?

    • @brettmartens6253
      @brettmartens6253 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly I don't have much experience playing P+since they added that move. But it looks like a fun time! Maybe I should boot up the old wii again@@bobbob7885

  • @riverguavs6139
    @riverguavs6139 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have had Project M for over years now and i still remember playing with my Dad on the game. Good times.

  • @Flare8295
    @Flare8295 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    PM/P+ made the best iteration for Ike & Sonic 2 of my favorite characters in this game

  • @CrumbCCM
    @CrumbCCM 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Zelda is so underrated, wish people talked about her

  • @windindi2834
    @windindi2834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Interesting idea I've had for a video topic, so with Pokemon Trainer, it's obvious that Project M separated the trio because Brawl PT was awful, however with Ultimate PT showing how amazing they can be, it would be interesting to see what general opinions are regarding if they should be kept separate or if hey could work together.

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Project M is my favorite smash game. Feels by far the most fluid to play and I only started playing it 1-2 months ago.

  • @TheGameShelf
    @TheGameShelf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your channel has been showing up on my recommends a lot and honestly I enjoy your videos! They're very good man, keep it up

  • @WiiFan-1300
    @WiiFan-1300 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I’m glad the TH-cam algorithm blessed me with this.
    You should really make a video on all the improvements Project + gave characters.

  • @Solharath
    @Solharath 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic may be great in P+, but he's definitely not the Top 5 character he's made out to be on the tier list. Great video as always.

  • @thomario8638
    @thomario8638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Last day I played classic mode P+ with Ivysaur on Hard. Reached the last battle between Master Hand and Crazy Hand with only 2 out of 5 lives, I lost the first life early on. I had to take down 100hp of Master and 200hp of Crazy without f*cking dying and dodging a lot...
    *somehow I pulled it off.* mainly thanks to the directional airdodge.

  • @StarForceBelmont321
    @StarForceBelmont321 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yo Zach im curious if you ever seen a low tier bottom tier or mid tier get OVER BUFFED
    thats a unique idea characters who were awful in their debut game but became A MENACE in future games resulting in people hating fighting them
    Aka Roy Sonic, Pac Man, Mega Man,.ROB Palutena and Shulk

    • @verde7595
      @verde7595 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ult 1.0 Pichu comes to mind.

  • @JAMllostthegame
    @JAMllostthegame 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember being excited when I realized what jumping out of QD meant. Another change to QD that I don't think I saw mentioned was how you have the option of not swinging the sword, making it less vulnerable as a recovery tool and made it work well with having the option to jump out of it. Also the fully charged OHKO existing was pretty funny.
    But the most important change of all was giving Ike his blue flames. P:M did it before Sm4sh and I'll take that as the biggest W for the community over the official games.

  • @FransenYT
    @FransenYT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved the video man, always good to learn more about P+.
    How did you get the brawl characters in a green screen to remove it in editing? Is it a gecko code in dolphin?

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm guessing it's a mod.

    • @FransenYT
      @FransenYT หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LloydTheZephyrian would love to get my hands on that mod, I've been searching for a while but couldn't find anything

  • @heyhey3335
    @heyhey3335 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bro i think if you made a how to guide for individual characters going super indepth that would be sick! Ness could be a good start

  • @sickomode5000
    @sickomode5000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wow, didnt know u made music. i gave it a listen shits actually pretty good

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ayy thank you! Hope you like it! Worked real hard on the album Sapphire, thank you!

  • @CorbinLeonard-rp4et
    @CorbinLeonard-rp4et 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man if i make a smash bros mod it will characters from smash remix super smash flash 2 project m and + it will be call super smash bros omaga

  • @purplepudding9384
    @purplepudding9384 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Impatient waiting room for Brawlback

  • @Mrnotpib
    @Mrnotpib 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:01 Dk: You guys got games on your phone?

  • @stopanimatecreep3400
    @stopanimatecreep3400 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Video Request: “How Spider-Man got into Smash Remix”

  • @borkbork9541
    @borkbork9541 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember messing around with pm3.6 bowsers pac file when I wasn't satisfied with how he played. Pretty happy with him now though I wish aerial koopa claw dthrow had better base knockback

  • @The_Golden_Pepper
    @The_Golden_Pepper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:00 i was bot ready to see Cine there

  • @vengefulfork7169
    @vengefulfork7169 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Project M really was something. Such a shame

  • @miguelsi7543
    @miguelsi7543 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More content about my favorite game of all time? Yes please! 😍

  • @127marq
    @127marq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mewtwo isn’t a light weight he’s floaty. Fastfallers can survive vertical kill moves easier that a floaty. Bowser despite being the heaviest character dies earlier to a fox up smash compared to falcon because bowser is more floaty that falcon

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol right. The information is wrong. And fox is also a lightweight but he survives much longer because he falls like deadweight

  • @Oct_sflb
    @Oct_sflb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:09 I felt this, immensely

  • @treezlechez3011
    @treezlechez3011 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When are you streaming?

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Saturdays!

  • @Bombermanfan95
    @Bombermanfan95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nintendo needs to write notes down on how you can make a heavy good.

    • @GlitchanBlack
      @GlitchanBlack 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean, they are willing to, but Japanese copyright is preventing them.

    • @PaperGraysterYT
      @PaperGraysterYT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my idea is make them suffer less hitstun so they’re not combo food and buff their recoveries

  • @theuproar3914
    @theuproar3914 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude reminds me of j1mmy, now we need a by release smash series

  • @OCELOT_2221
    @OCELOT_2221 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MUSIC AT THE START PLEASE I FORGET IT 😭

  • @Evixyn
    @Evixyn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lunchables

  • @TheTrixster690
    @TheTrixster690 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do more videos.

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking forward to more videos like this

  • @sablesalt
    @sablesalt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Feel like it should be noted more often that p+ has the largest viable cast of any smash scene, says alot considering it outnumbers the game with 100 characters.

  • @silvesta5027
    @silvesta5027 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish I could play project + 😭 I want to soooo bad

  • @silvesta5027
    @silvesta5027 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just realised this guy looks like the Jamaican white dude who does prank videos

  • @Miphos
    @Miphos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YOSHI WHERE

  • @danielapirisi6243
    @danielapirisi6243 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Project M is the most balanced game, all of the characters are balanced, for example: the bottom tier characters in project M are still viable characters, just not as much as the other characters

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So basically Ultimate but Melee's engine. Proves Melee players exactly that their game not needing patches is ridiculous because Project M is Melee but better

  • @sleepy9102
    @sleepy9102 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks dude you are a beast.

  • @keybladeapologist.1131
    @keybladeapologist.1131 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate ikes forward air. Me and my brother play project plus for fun every once in a while and that stupid move is like the freest ledge guard tool and I hate it

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bro Ikes sword is so massive. I don't care if it sounds weird it's just true.

  • @Akuretaki_Nikolay
    @Akuretaki_Nikolay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    seqal