Spending 2022 with the Honda NT1100 | MCN Review
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Office Manager Alison Silcox shares her 10 best and worst bits of her long-term test Honda NT1100. Read our full review on the bike here: www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-r...
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These year long test rides provide thorough and authentic observations. This review was articulate and demonstrated genuine ownership experiences. Great work. Thanks!
she did an amazing job on that review, nailed it
Good review but I have to say I find it an easy bike to manually move around as it's weight is very low, power delivery is smooth, Apple CarPlay works very well and was easy to set up. For me it's been a very easy bike to live with. Just strange how peoples perceptions differ. Mine is the DCT and I love it.
If you set the TFT dash to display white on black (negative image) it is much easier to see on sunny days.
Outstanding and comprehensive review, never seen it done better for a long term test of a motorcycle; all the pertinent points were effectively covered with plenty of relative personal perspective on features and benefits. The switchgear and tech integration details are specifically key insights into what a prospective owner will be most challenged to recognize in a short test of the bike on their own.
I understand that these are personal opinions after owning this bike for several months. I've similar experience with this bike. I got mine on Feb2022, and after over 13.000 miles I don't agree with some of the points. From my experience, the Android auto/apple car play are really a plus, and all companies should go towards that direction. It took me 5 minutes to set it up, sometimes I have to pair again the headset, specially when starting the bike while the intercom is still off. The throtle response or engine breaking is something you can customize, it's not the most intuitive interface, but after setting my personal ridding modes, there is no need to mess around with the settings.
The secondary screen is because when you use android/apple car, you still have basic info on the secondary screen, you will always be able to see speed, gas, milleage, gear selection even when there is an incoming call or while you are navigating using your map app.
it's a heavy bike yes, but if you find that a negative you shouldn't go for a big displacement bike.
The controls are difficult at the begining, untill you get use to them is not that big deal. I do think that they should be retroiluminated being so many buttons, at night it's a bit difficult to use the buttons that are not used that often. Meaning, there is no problem with blinkers, but if you whant to change setting on the fly or navigate google maps you will find it challenging. Better to stop in a safe exit. And the on the other hand, something that I found awful are the standard tires. I got mine with Dunlop tires, and they were super soft, not good for touring at all. For those who are considering this bike, in a nut shell, I would say it's a great touring bike, more to the touring rather than the sport side of the segment. But it's really comfortable for long distances, and long ridding days. The product/money ratio is very good, and also a great option for tall, and big guys.
I think it is a very good long commuter bike with just a top box on. The DCT and very low centre of gravity allows for very controlled filtering at slow speed and great weather protection at motorway speed. Prefect for my commute of 26 miles each way in and out of Dublin with twisty county roads, motorway and city streets! I am an ex BMW RT and GS Adventure rider (two of each over the years).
I really like these reviews. Credible, informative, and well presented. 👌 Well done MCN
Love these long term videos, well done MCN!
Excellent review Alison and Michael. Living with a bike for months - and in all kinds of conditions - can result in a very different perspective than having one for even a couple of days, obviously. But the review itself was very well focused on actual ownership experience; the stuff that matters. A bunch of us don't have ideal garage/parking options, we are all built differently, and we use our bikes for different reasons. I - WE - are patiently waiting here in the US for the NT1100 so we can at least throw a leg over one to see if it meets our needs. I'm currently on an '18 V-Strom 1K with panniers and a top box, a better screen, and quite a few small upgrades/updates (just awaiting the installation of my own Road 6s): very similar, in fact, to this bike in it's mission, personality, utility, and form factor. Many of the slight dislikes are in common, but once you get used to wheeling it around, it's a great travel companion (long and short). Looking with anticipation to a more forward-looking, modern bike that was made for the same glorious purpose. Thanks for the great review!
Excellent detailed review. Particularly liked that you took time to test pillion comfort which is something people tend to completely ignore👍
Informative, balanced & occassionally funny review. Well done MN & Ali. Thanks.
Great review MCN
Excellent overview with some useful insight 👍
Great informative review. I ran two Crosstoures over 7 years, manual and DCT, i always felt the DCT was the better bike.
Lots of useful information here, I'm very tempted by the NT and want to get a test ride later this year.
Great review however as with the AT you don't need a headset to use Android Auto and never have your phones Bluetooth on, it links via the data lead and the bikes bluetooth connects to a headset if you have one.
Great review thank you 👍🏍
Even after 45 yrs riding, I'm still amazed viewers can consider anything with 2 wheels and 100+bhp bland.
Yeah, especially when you are riding on normal roads.
spec sheet warriors. I'm probably going to get this bike myself for touring europe and the odd bit of commuting. My first car was a 2011 skoda with a 1.2l 3cyl engine that had 60bhp and 108nm of torque. It weight a ton, carried 5 people plus luggage and had aircon.
My current bike is a 125cc scooter which weighs 160kg with 15bhp, carries my wife and I plus bags and shopping sometimes.
Both cases, they weren't fast by any measure, but they still got to their destination.
The NT is a rocket in comparison.
Conversely you don't have to ride a big horse power bike fast. I'm on my 6th Hayabusa but don't tear around like a lunatic. For me the appeal is the stability of the bike and its physical size/mass.@@rufysufy
Cannot agree with the DCT throttle response, yes when first purchased and no knowledge of DCT it was a problem but now, with several thousand miles the brain has fathomed just how gentle you must be but the rewards are superb! No problem and love it!
Absolutely. I find the DCT a revelation. I suspect a lot of bikers hate it "because", with no real understanding or indeed having ever tried it.
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne just been abroad and found out something, on my little 700 if you fully open throttle she changes into 6th at 95mph indicated, 92 gps! But poor DCT haters don not know just how smoothly 5th to 6th is!!
Excellent review.
Good job but a few points mentioned are a bit misleading. I ride a 2020 AT with the same display. Even in brightest sunlight the display is perfect with regard to visibility. On top it is stunning that after a year of driving she does not mention the real purpose of the small display. If you do the navigating via Google maps on full screen, the extra display gives you the missing, most important information. You only have to pair the headset once by the way. Throttle response can be adjusted. Buttons are logical after a short period of getting used to it. At and NT are great bikes. DCT is a lock. After having it there is no way back.
Android Auto and Apple Car Play are game changers
Good review, I'm looking to get back on 2 wheels and love Hondas, this helps.
Great review, thank you.
Really good, you make a great team! 👍👍👍
Enjoyable review, and well articulated, its a type of bike I would consider.
Think we've established (many many references) the Michelins are good, so would be nice for you reviewers to try some non fashionable/trending tyres in order to create some balance.
Keep up these long term reviews, they are useful.
Brilliant review
Throttle cut: many bikes are suffering from this off throttle jerkiness. I believe its to make the emission standards. There are a growing number of ecu remapping services
That's worth knowing. My nt1100 is quite jerky.
Great review. Totally agree re comments on dash connectivity. I don’t need sound but it won’t work without. I just use some ear pods and leave them in the tank bag. However it still a real faff having to connect every time you start. Michelin Road 6, brilliant. Great bike.
As I'm looking seriously at the NT1100, I found it was a good review. I have noticed though how many reviews criticise weight of different bikes at around 240kgs. My wife's burgman is 277kg, my previous trophy was 302kg wet, a previous K1200LT was 386kg, and I bought a lighter weight bike of a 1200 Tiger at 244kg. There are very few bikes, and none that I'm interested in, under 200kgs.
Great review guys!
Thanks for watching
Good review,yes Road 6s are phenomenal,highly recommended🇫🇷🏴
Rode this bike and it felt a very quality made one that can do everything just right. Can check my thoughts about it. By the way a very detailed and comprehensive review. Like always well done. You got my like. :)
What a great review it is, thnx guys.
Excellent review, I enjoy these very much. This one was quite funny as well. Especially when Alison was talking about her husband. 😂 Best!
Very pleasant, informative, conversation. I appreciate the attention to pillion experience, something often overlooked. Lights?
Did a test myself one year ago with the DCT, liked it a lot but Honda couldn't deliver in 2022. I bought one today specifically for touring with my wife... Will have to wait 10 weeks for delivery now. Thanks for a decent review
I have a BMW 1250 RT and besides the big size of it (it was meant to be big, so…), I feel that it is a bike for everything. For every use, included a very soft off road trail, it can handle it , so it is quite a well balanced bike. In winter it is marvelous to ride, offers a great protection. Nowadays, there are no bad bikes. My motorcycle has a lot of features that I don’t make use of and others that do their work without my intervention, which is lovely to have. The connectivity is not the best… but when I decided to buy it the connectivity advantages were not a priority. The most important things for me is mechanic and electronic reliability, the confidence feeling of the chassis, breaking power, the grip of the tyres, luggage space, and comfort. Every other features are ok but not essential 👌🏻
Honda PLEASE make this bike available in the states! Why why why is it not here? Not everyone can afford a $30k gold wing. 😢
As a bike aimed at touring, and as you mentioned designed to carry luggage and a pillion, I was disappointed with the rather low maximum payload quoted for the bike of 194 kg. Bikes like the GS are around the 217 kg mark which gives a little more margin for two-up touring, and my middleweight Tiger Sport 660 has even more at 223 kg.
I am 115kg and my wife is 70, plus all the bags are full like 20 kg, and add the protection bars etc 7-8 kg... I did not even feel loaded while driving... It can really handle more 20-30 kg wtihout any notice..It is really a work horse...
I'm very interested in this bike and this review helps a ton. Touring is the main sort of riding I do with my wife and this looks to be the perfect bike. We have a Honda cb500x now and this will be a great addition to the stable.
How about the new Transalp?
@@stefanjepp6612 couple of issues with the new transsalp, tubed tyres and no cruise control. Also I spend 95% on road so 21 inch front wheel is unnecessary.
Useful discussion, thanks. Here’s a few things I’d like to know: Weight aside, how are the parking lot manners; is it balanced? How’s the long distance ergonomics; any adjustability for bars, pegs, levers? Including maintenance, tire wear, depreciation, fuel consumption, what’s the “cost of ownership” for the first 6000 miles? Compared to the Tracer, which bike has the more engaging character?
Good review.
DCT in its latest gen is superb
great test!
Great video.
Nicely done!
Thank you! Cheers!
Love my DCT NT1100. With Android Auto you need a high quality / high data transfer rate for it to work reliably. Once you have that it just works. Yeah, a lot of buttons on the left hand bar but once you've figured them out it's not a big deal. I'm 6ft / 90kg so maneuvering the bike is fine. I could see smaller riders struggling.
Other observations. The bike is very stable at high speed and or in windy conditions. Much better than my V-Strom 650 that I had previously. I've not had the issues with sun on the dash as mentioned in the video.
Yeah, I wanted a red one as well. Mine is black as that's all we're getting in New Zealand.
Excellent review. Pillion view a good one which doesn't get talked about much. Which you are limited on for so many bike now a days. Just watch a sports bike test and had the KTM` rc8 and talked about all the adjustment for foot pegs seat and bars. Which seems to over looked in favour of tech .
These videos being excellent also serve as a reminder to buy the mcn paper.
I use it for commuting and it's really good moving around the cars. Even better than the NC750X due to the mirror height difference
Great review, thanks Alison. Did you find that the bike burned a lot of oil in that year?
Great looking bike clean..no luggage. I found one of these on market place in my area for $4500..wish I would have bought it...just couldn't at the time...I ended up with the yamaha FJR instead...phew, great machine, very quick. Really have to ride it attentively
Allen Millard is currently posting videos of repairs to one of his Honda ST1100's. Would love to see a comparison of the old ST1100 with the new NT1100
Good idea , Bearing in mind that the ST1100 is 60kgs heavier
That bike has the optional Voyager pack which to standard spec adds Top box, 3 inner bags, tank bag, fog lights, comfort seats and comfort foot pegs.
Not bad
It’s silver … applecar play works seemless , connect via a cable! you can use without headset hold back button on lh switchgear for more than 3 secs , this is the standout feature of this bike! i think most of the points are obviously accurate but some I totally disagree with
She’s a hoot! Great review and witty
Thanks Walter, this made me smile. Glad you appreciate the review. 🙂Ride safe. Ali MCN
I'd like one of these for 2 up riding
Good review but would have thought the characteristics and performance of the engine would have featured
Great assessment of this bike. Just too big and heavy for me.👍
I wonder what this lady has to say about the Android Auto issues. Everything works perfectly for me, besides, I use a wireless connection, not a USB cable.
Good review have you two considered doing stand up? Loving the dry humour.
Brilliantly informative . Agree with the screen adjust. Awful ,beyond awful. Have to agree about the throttle response. Android auto; you can now do it without headphones. Still not great though. A long way from avoiding the need for a satnav
I think it looks futuristic & well made. A lot of new bikes take a while to gain acceptance by the herd. Hayabusa for example. However a hint of HRC would do no harm (maybe some fireblade drill holes in the fairing lol). Looks wise my only minus is the exhaust. It looks like an afterthought (good excuse for a lightweight fruity replacement?). I had CBR1000F & it seems to do as much if not more (150++) than the NT for a lot less. Bring back the CBR/VFR range says I. 1990's Sports tourers were great but for some reason fell out of favour. The media saying they were jack of all trades but masters of none didn't help. But still a nice bike & I think parallel twins make sense for most bikes as a package,
What are the lights like ,No one seems to say anymore on road tests
Nice review, though the weight is fine for an 1100cc tourer.
Small correction - Ninja 1000sx does have heated grips as standard.
Weird. The throttle response on my 1986 VFR750 is incredible. Just 2 bits of wire connected to 4 carburettors. TC / rider modes etc controlled by my brain.
When do we get a chance at buying one of these in California? I call dealers near me and they all shrug (I guess) and say they have no idea. This is massively frustrating.
does anyone know when the NT 1100 is coming to America?
Wonder if they're ever gonna bring the NT1100 to America?
How is dct gear box at slow speed turns etc
Unpopular opinion: After riding numerous bikes with quick shifters, I could take or leave them. On track maybe its worth the tiny performance benefit, on street I've never found one that I wanted to use regularly. Always end up clutching the shifts anyways.
Good Review! Would be interesting to see The NT1100 comparison to BMW's R1250RT considering how the RT is a lighter weight tourer (compared to the heavy-weights such as the k1600, Indians and Harleys etc.) but costs so much more due to all the tech.
Perfect Iron Butt bike?
Me personally can not understand why on every sub 500 pound bike that the reviews always say it’s so heavy, it’s huge, it’s cumbersome etc.. I don’t even own a motorcycle under 500 pounds except maybe my ZH2.. Anything under 500 pounds is pretty much a bicycle with an engine.. I want to be able to afford these bikes and have them be stable out on the open road.. reducing weight can be very pricey and not necessary.. it’s bad enough, there are barely any full size bikes left to choose from anymore, I don’t want manufacturers canceling everything over 800cc.
I need a practical long distance bike. This might be it. Doesn’t need to be cool. Already have that in my brutal Speed Twin 1200
The problem i see with these tourers from the Japanese market is that, they ditched the shaft drive. A tourer needs to be as maintenance free as possible..BMW got that thing right at least.
I've done 13000 miles on my africa twin and never even adjusted the chain
A chain oiler would be a few hundred grams, shaft drives are inefficient and heavy
@@leahheffernan4644 a bit less efficient, I agree. However, when you have over 150HP, there's nothing to worry. Clean bike in all weather and the weight is down low too.
@@daimonmt a few years ago Regina created zero-maintenance chain, which costs just around 500-700 US$. It doesn’t need cleaning, oiling or adjusting for a ~70.000km. BMW produce “BMW M Chain” recently too, wich is based on the same technologies as Regina’s.
Totally agree.
A few years ago, centre stands were standard on all bikes. Manufacturers are ripping us off saying they are now an option on many bikes😡
Great review as always. If its anything like the africa, the 5th con could be the cost and complexity of maintenance (like the valves, sparkplugs, air filters…), when Ducati now do better, you know its time for honda to improve that aspect, more so on a touring bike.
Plugs , tappets and filters are 16000 miles on the AT and as its the same engine and you dont see a ducati doing 60mpg
@@keithsbitsandpieces youll need to save a lot on gas to compensate :)
So why dont we get this in Canada
Screen adjustment, almost the same on a Deauville, don't want the screen moving while riding and speaking as a mechanic think it just needs some lube on the guides. Sun on the dash, even back in the day it happens with all dashes even in cars, so nowt has changed. Throttle response and modes just like a rider fits all bikes but doesnt fit any of em perfectly until you set it up to your riding style. Buttons on bars and touchscreen, almost all riders over 45 ish are not going to be comfortable with this and remember the lot, but practice makes perfect. Plug n play, even in cars, trucks, coaches and more it's never perfect and yep over 40's ish do struggle. 240-260Kgs isn't heavy for an 1100cc tourer, my old 2008 Deauville with a full tank and a weekends worth of luggage and Scrutineering kit was 292Kg's as measured by the scales at Bemsee and my NC750X is 220Kgs and if you find a bike too heavy to handle then why are you riding it? Filtering through traffic? try that on a loaded Deauville in the wet.
Like the review and say hello to hubby for me and thankyou for the cupcakes they are delish.
Good revue, overall a goog touring bike by the sound of it.
I may be wrong but I thought the Ninja SX tour came with heated grips,,
Its a good looking bike though like mentioned, a tad bland. I should try out the Road 6s at my next tire change once my Battlax T32s square off.
Hoping Honda brings it to North America soon
Nothing wrong with being a wee Welshman, no matter how petite.
This is so much better when you talk to real owners after a full season of ownership experience.
The Deauville Pannier was notorious for locks failing, and popping open without warning if you closed them wrong.(650 and 700) Why can't Honda do Panniers properly? Pan European had terrible boxes too. Yes they stayed closed, but very fiddly to attach and remove. The NT1100 headlight is also terrible once you get away from street lights. Clearly Honda pays no attention to customer feedback. Deauville also had terrible headlights. No matter what you did, unless you put in a (now illegal) HID kit, you'd only get the trees above you illuminated, not the ground in front. The obvious problem of course also for touring, is the absence of a shaft drive.
I have a Honda Crosstourer and the panniers are great. They latch closed independently of the locks and are quick and easy to fit or remove on a frameless fitting system. I've not had a problem with them.
3:00 thats one big squirrel at the background
Its easier to set your phone up on them , Its so simple
DO NOT pair your phone to headset
Every time i switch on my crash helmet and then plug your phone into the bike ( most cars you have to plug your phone into the car to use android auto )
And yes you can work it without headset ( watch RICHY VIDA)
“He’s quite grab-able!” 🤣
Toujours pas de traduction.....?
Nice review thanx.
Great machine no doubt.
If only the NT1100 had shaftdrive this bike in DCT version would probably be My next touring bike untill then i stick to My lovely VFR1200X Crosstourer DCT.
Will never go back to manual transmission DCT is just brilliant.
The Power Of Dreams ❤
I had the manual Crosstourer for 7 years and 49,000 miles. Lovely bike.
Bought the DCT version of the NT1100 three weeks ago and have done 750 miles. It really is a fantastic bike, and the after 750 miles I would not want to ride a manual tourer ever again. Really the chain is no problem with a centre stand, a squirt of chain lube every 500 miles, clean it every 1,000 to 1,500 and adjust it very occasionally. It is significantly lighter than the CT (37kg) and the CofG seems much lower so none of the top heavy feeling I used to experience with the CT. If all you do is 50 miles for a coffee at the weekends its overkill, but if you like touring its very well "specced" as standard.
3h for connecting all? OMG. I buy this honda and connect all together 15min maximum. 4minits searching cable😁
Get a Kawasaki Versys 1000. Creamy throttle, helmets fit in planners and not overly complex. More power too.
Would love one but at 5,8 it’s a reach for the floor and bit unnerving when the bike is so heavy
@@BodybuildingSteve
This is true, the centre of gravity is very low though. But then I'm 15st and 6 ft tall.
An excellent long term review of the NT. Seems like a good first attempt Honda but there is plenty to improve on. Too tall for me with no seat adjustment ( why Honda - this isn't making motorcycling inclusive ?) Has any manufacturer made a successful integration with phone technology. I know of Goldwings, 1250RT's, 85tt's and NT1100's all with add on sat nav's because the built in system is so poor unreliable and unworkable. As for weight my St1300's were about 330kg wet but they carried it so well split tank helped. I'll keep a watching brief for the 2/3 year development of this bike
There is nothing wrong with the phone integration, JUST TURN OFF YOUR BLUETOOTH, Simple really
If you can ride an st how can't you fit on the NT , They are 60kgs lighter and only 15mm higher seat
So glad I seem to have a completely different bike that came with an easily movable screen (just gently rock it from side to side) , easily connected comms with a screen for Sat Nav and a secondary display for speedo which in a years riding I have always been able to see in all light. No jerkiness unless I make it so and I find changing gear helps. As for looks its in the eye of the beholder. It helps to read the handbook as well. Perhaps Alison didn't get one. I think this bike may need people with a higher IQ to enjoy it. Sorry this is a negative review. Seems Main stream bike media love to hate it. Did Donald Trump own one?
Honda needs to send this bike to the USA. What's wrong with Honda?
not much better with BMW r1250rt tft and trying to use app for maps and contacting head set