2023 Honda Civic Type R Vs Hyundai i30 N | Hot Hatches Battle It Out Head-To-Head | Drive.com.au

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    The Honda Civic Type R carries a heavy legacy and a price tag to match, but can the Hyundai i30 N better it on more than just price?
    00:00 Introduction
    00:58 Pricing & Specification
    03:36 Powertrain & Engine
    05:18 Cabin
    11:41 Driving The Type R
    16:22 Driving The i30 N
    22:21 Our Winner
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  • @alsayedfakhri4597
    @alsayedfakhri4597 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Type R is the pinnacle of hot hatches but the i30n is 80% the way there at a decent saving.

    • @georgemavrides3434
      @georgemavrides3434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depending where you are, up to 25-40% price savings are well beyond decent.

    • @reyfuentes4572
      @reyfuentes4572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@georgemavrides3434 95% there?

    • @thewho2482
      @thewho2482 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree.

    • @Showmetheevidence-
      @Showmetheevidence- 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      More than 80%

  • @danielhao5595
    @danielhao5595 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Don't you think the fl5 has gotten way too big to be called a hot hatch? It's like 3 series compared to a 1 series.

  • @TheCaesarChris
    @TheCaesarChris ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Has to be the Type R, amazing car the N is but type r, interior, styling and performance are all superior imo

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also costs more, overheats and sounds shite

  • @andypoolman3484
    @andypoolman3484 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Do these guys know anything about the type r put in custom mode put suspension in comfort everything else in R mode then you have all the benefit of the R mode with softer suspension makes a fantastic car.

  • @SChapps
    @SChapps ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You say the i30N misses out on lightness to the steering, but you’ve left it in its stiffest setting. Use N custom to put suspension and steering in normal, and the rest in sport plus. That is the correct way to enjoy the i30N.

    • @mharro88
      @mharro88 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Dumb

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't worry, we didn't just drive these cars in one mode. We tested out multiple settings and played with the individual modes of both. Even with the steering in normal mode the i30 N isn't quite as fluid and fast as the Type R when it comes to steering. Honda really nailed the fine details here, but the Civic's precision plays off against the more playful nature of the i30 N so each has its strengths.
      - Kez

  • @paulwang5213
    @paulwang5213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    just a suggestion but perhaps tone down the music volume in between coz you suddenly pump the audio too loud and then u switch back to the presenters talking at normal volume.

  • @sugarskulldigital7769
    @sugarskulldigital7769 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Stupid comparison, $12k will buy you a lot more, i30n was built to be fun not mega fast.

    • @GoofySmuf
      @GoofySmuf หลายเดือนก่อน

      The i30n is faster in a drag race 0-100km, its faster than the Civic Type R. The Civic is only faster around track ?
      So not to sure what you are on about with your comment as it does not make sense.

    • @sugarskulldigital7769
      @sugarskulldigital7769 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoofySmuf wrong way around my friend, watch drag races civic type r is much faster, I know I own an i30n, they are faster around corners.

    • @GoofySmuf
      @GoofySmuf หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sugarskulldigital7769 I own a i30n and I have not seen one that I dont gap. That manual cant keep up with the DCT. Link me 1 vid where a Type R beats a i30n DCT. You live in LALA land.

    • @GoofySmuf
      @GoofySmuf หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sugarskulldigital7769 I doubt you own one otherwise you would have noticed as well. You are obviously a fanboy that doesnt own either of them. Just another pen and paper warrior.

    • @sugarskulldigital7769
      @sugarskulldigital7769 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoofySmuf well I do, I own a 2018 manual in clean slate, it's quick but it's not the quickest

  • @Highlander1518
    @Highlander1518 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FL5 all the way. It ticks all the boxes. I’ve owned a FK8 for three years, the car is unreal. The FL5 will be a track monster no doubt.

  • @deganellis
    @deganellis ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Good comparison, guys.
    For $12k less drive away, I'll hang on to my i30 Sedan N...

    • @mharro88
      @mharro88 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The DCt is quicker than the Honda.

    • @deganellis
      @deganellis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mharro88 even better then cos mine's a DCT!

    • @georgemavrides3434
      @georgemavrides3434 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Europe, the Type R is a good 15k euros more (~41-42k Vs 56-57k). Love what Honda has done there but they need to grab those dealers by the b@llz!

    • @Keepshitrealok
      @Keepshitrealok 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mharro88off the line its quicker but on the run the Type R marches straight past it

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mharro88 Way quicker lol. Saw an Elantra N decimate a golf R in a rolling race

  • @saravanakarthik3043
    @saravanakarthik3043 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Plz do more comparo videos like this.....👍👍👍

  • @SnoopiFL5
    @SnoopiFL5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Type r by i mile! if you can’t afford it doesn’t make it a reason to say it’s not a better car. type wins in every category price is subjective and alway subjective 2 million dollars cars they cost 100k new it’s out there once again price is subjective

    • @jvvoid
      @jvvoid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Price isn't subjective, look up the meaning. Price is relative and relevant, not subjective.

    • @SnoopiFL5
      @SnoopiFL5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jvvoid if you can’t afford it buy something eals simple. Price is subjective is a Ferrari Porsche or Lamborghini worth 2-3x the MSRP?? You will always have someone saying it’s not worth the money yet someone has bought or will buy it. Point of the story is it’s worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. No different than your house. Buy what you can afford.

  • @cedric1138
    @cedric1138 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's the type r for me but that's because I have the fk8! I like N too, brilliant wee car. Hardly a fair comparison tho.

    • @Highlander1518
      @Highlander1518 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      FK8 owner here, brother. Had one for three years. It’s a fabulous machine.

  • @IzzyEG6
    @IzzyEG6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Comparing cars that far apart in price is ludicrous & it needs to stop!!

    • @Showmetheevidence-
      @Showmetheevidence- 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Imo it just proves how under rated that i30n is

  • @ThunderBob_racing
    @ThunderBob_racing ปีที่แล้ว +4

    20k aren't a little bit....

  • @wesb5402
    @wesb5402 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I30N for me any day of the week

  • @washout04
    @washout04 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ooh. Those FL5 wheels are already curbed 😬.

  • @rc70ys
    @rc70ys ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How does this premium limited edition N Line Hyundai still have a analogue cluster when the new N models have a digital display cluster.
    Are these left overs of the old series 1 models with some additions to justify a premium price.

  • @jonahmarsden
    @jonahmarsden 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love both, but the Type R is a bit too long a wheelbase for right country roads where I live, and it’s got a vacuum exhaust that sounds like trash

  • @spudgun47
    @spudgun47 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Id still put my money down on the n 100%

    • @Crownleyian
      @Crownleyian ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Careful what you wish for I know someone that blew an i30N engine.

    • @damienfrizzell9394
      @damienfrizzell9394 ปีที่แล้ว

      bullshit and if it were true they fucked with it

    • @karloswald5548
      @karloswald5548 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Have mine since august 22, love it very much.

    • @Vermonstered
      @Vermonstered ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@Crownleyian There's good reason why Hyundai set aside 2 billion dollars for warranty engine repair late last year. This was before they were addressing the USB 'key' issues... There's a lot going awry with these cars, fine if you treat them like Audi's from the 90's and early 00's... Have your fun and sell before warranty expires.

    • @Highlander1518
      @Highlander1518 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Had my FK8 for three years now and I’ve pushed it hard. Still going. 400bhp+ love it.

  • @digisuboob
    @digisuboob หลายเดือนก่อน

    if you do track days the type R overheating issues needs solving. the i30n does not have the same issues. can be solved.. but the track day warranty on top of it its hard to go past the i30n.

  • @jvvoid
    @jvvoid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Red interior doesn't make it special, makes it irritating. Red isn't a relaxing colour, it's 24/7 agitating.

  • @maxcarter970
    @maxcarter970 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oooh a sticker pack!

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just needs a Nurburgring sticker ;)

  • @JC94
    @JC94 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    CTR barely a hatch when you put them together.
    And the whole money no object thing is stupid, it’s everything. The civic is simply not $12k+ more of a car. My Kona N was only 2sec down at Phillip island against two CTR’s recently, and I’d say that’s simply power. Korea is the new Japan

  • @bwarefilmz
    @bwarefilmz ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i30n wins easily for me

    • @Alex-dz6xw
      @Alex-dz6xw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol

    • @werunthesestreets
      @werunthesestreets 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol you and the other 20000 people who got one

  • @claudiadavies5110
    @claudiadavies5110 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both brilliant, N for me 💙

  • @planbparadise2046
    @planbparadise2046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GR Corolla / Yaris

  • @xxneggalee2785
    @xxneggalee2785 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    72k for the type r, I thought it was around 30k 😢

    • @werunthesestreets
      @werunthesestreets 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can't even buy the base for that money pal

  • @mpsftmfw
    @mpsftmfw ปีที่แล้ว

    For these prices I’d definitely buy a gr Yaris. I own a N drive N and a gr rallye, the N is disappointing compared to the gr. Torque steer and axle tramp is shocking. Terrible in the wet. Only downside to the Yaris is the size,but a excellent drive.

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For these prices I wouldn't buy any of these cars or the Yaris you mentioned.

    • @jvvoid
      @jvvoid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're still on the Pirellis in the N, some better rubber will fix some axle tramp and most of the wet traction.

  • @kimmarshall6047
    @kimmarshall6047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As i live in the country neither are practible for me for 74k i would get a BT50

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In that case you should check out our BT-50 off-road video: th-cam.com/video/2eOCweURHbw/w-d-xo.html I reckon that might be a bit more up your alley
      - Kez

  • @mharro88
    @mharro88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compare the type r to the i30 sedan n which is a newer and better performing platform? Weird.
    That car is right next to it.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was a tough call, but we wanted to keep this comparison 'traditional' and have a hatch versus hatch battle. We weighed up the merits of i30 Sedan N and i30 hatch and leant towards the hatch for this video.
      - Kez

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 ปีที่แล้ว

      The hatchback just looks better

  • @sugarskulldigital7769
    @sugarskulldigital7769 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Take the $12k and upgrade what you dont like

    • @damienfrizzell9394
      @damienfrizzell9394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      like any one buying these cars is paying cash 😅

    • @sugarskulldigital7769
      @sugarskulldigital7769 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@damienfrizzell9394 true, but they can save on the monthly repayments

  • @reddouglas1887
    @reddouglas1887 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How much did Honda pay you for this review???

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hang on to your tinfoil hat, Honda paid a total of $0 for this review - or any review. Our editorial outcomes aren't up for grabs, and our review team is wholly independent. If Honda paid, we wouldn't have said anything nice about the Hyundai (that's usually how those types of agreements work) but we loved the i30 N, it's just that in a few areas the Civic Type R is the better hot hatch - but of course you pay for the privilege.

  • @stefannik5181
    @stefannik5181 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I rather spend 45k and Get a i30 then spend 72k on a type r and get a Little extra power. and save 28k in my pocket

    • @Keepshitrealok
      @Keepshitrealok 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re not getting an N for anywhere near 45k

  • @c7lion
    @c7lion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Type R for me

  • @justinhale2160
    @justinhale2160 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine picking a trash hyundai over a respecable brand like honda. The hyundai will need 3 engine and Probably 2 trans to make it to 100k miles. The honda on the other hand will still be on the original engine and trans. Lets not forget resale value, you might as well burn your cash then pay for a hyundai youll never get it back. The honda on the other hand its already selling used for 15k over sticker

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're stuck in the past. This is 2023, the type r is not worth that price difference and it sounds like a hoover. Hyundai N division isn't a joke. No one is buying a type R at that price. If someone is willing to spend money like that the GR Yaris/corolla is a better choice than the Type R. The engine will last just as long and resale value will be better.

    • @santoshrathod123
      @santoshrathod123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ulysses4989 The N will never hold its value like the Type R will. Just look at older Type Rs from the early 2000s. They sell more than what they were purchased for. Pedigree doesn't come cheap.

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@santoshrathod123 But the type R is overpriced. Realistically who is buying a Type R for 70k??

    • @santoshrathod123
      @santoshrathod123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ulysses4989 i did and so did many others. It's in the ballpark of the GR Corolla, Golf GTI and R etc.

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@santoshrathod123 70k for a type R is insane. Unless you're on the track often I see no reason to spend that much on it

  • @justin8448
    @justin8448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both are overpriced, the car price bubble is deflating

  • @jotta297
    @jotta297 ปีที่แล้ว

    i30 N is fun car.
    Type R is not fun car.

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What are you smoking. They're both very fun cars. The i30N sounds better

    • @Highlander1518
      @Highlander1518 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Please. Type R’s are the definition of fun. They’re built to be hammered and if you are a good driver they are bloody amazing cars to drive.

  • @liam7888
    @liam7888 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Huyndai i30 is such an ugly car, trying to fit in.

    • @AzzaTheGreat
      @AzzaTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol The Type R has been an ugly turd from day 1...

    • @damienfrizzell9394
      @damienfrizzell9394 ปีที่แล้ว

      and WRX

    • @andrew84tran
      @andrew84tran ปีที่แล้ว

      @s is 😂

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No way you called the i30 ugly lmao.. haters gonna hate

  • @dangerousbastard4883
    @dangerousbastard4883 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should compare it with a car with the same price. In the Czech republic I bought a brand new i30N performance sport manual in shadow grey for 30k euro (one of the last on stock) and the new civic costs 57k euro, that is not a comparable option at all!!