👀The Best Rotary Tattoo Pens on Amazon, In Depth Comparison👀
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In this video Floaty Lady compares 4 Rotary Tattoo pens, the CNC Q2, Mast Archer, CNC-M-X1 and the EZTAT2 Dagger X. Floaty Lady goes over the pro's and cons of each machine. Price Ranges on these Rotary Pens are 170$-400$. Why Pay more for a rotary pen? How do wattage and voltage relate when talking about rotary motors? How something as simple as a battery can be a game changer for a rotary pen? Find out by watching this video.
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I enjoyed you demonstrating the various machines.
I recommend you bag the machines even when just practicing, as breaking equipment down, reducing cross contamination, is a skill that requires practice, so might as well practice it as well.
Additionally, your depth was inconsistent in general, which translated to weaker lines when they would have been more powerful at proper depth, although, I still extracted a LOT of great information from your demonstration.
From the demo, the Hawink MX1 seemed to offer the most consistent resonance, which translates into needle chatter.
I would recommend practicing stretching the skin, even if it is fake skin. The primary reason people have difficulty tattooing is from a lack of stretching,... even those with a lot of skill and experience, fatigue and get lazy with their stretching techniques. A good stretch is created from left thumb and palm, left index and middle finger, and third point from tattoo hand outside palm. This creates a triangle of points that prevent the skin from bouncing. A 2 point stretch will actually make the skin taunt, preventing the punctures from vacuuming the ink into the skin when the needle leaves.
Voltage generally translates to higher rpm speeds only. Higher speeds actually can work against you by increasing needle variations causing jagged lines even when hand motions are smooth. If you notice the needles spitting ink, its due to too high of a machine speed and your needles are jumping around.
You can also get smoother lines from moving your arm, not your hand. so lock the wrist and make the move come from elbow and shoulder.
Just a few pointers for ya, take em or leave em.
Though I made some critiques, I think the demo was very effective and did offer the machine info I was searching for, so thank you.
Wow, thank you so much for your in depth critiques, I have been reading all of your comments. I appreciate your detailed and kind approach to constructive criticism. Do you have a tattoo TH-cam channel I could check out? You seem to know your stuff and I am always looking for more information resources. (3D Printing is an interest of mine I would like to get more into someday)
@@FloatyTattoo I don't have a channel, i post some stuff on instagram: @naterogersart
But its been a while. Im just getting back into tattooing, and learning as much as i can about various pen style machines. the industry changes so quickly!
I see you do have a lot of control in your hand control, so I expect learning to tattoo wont be a problem. You'll pick it up with some practice. Took me about 2 years to really feel what was going on with various skin types and machines.
Your off to a great start!
Once machines are learned and you can get ink in, then its all about the art, producing amazing artwork.
Even if the tattoo isn't all that perfect, if the artwork is incredible, the tattoo can always be cleaned up a bit to result in an incredible tattoo.
If the artwork isn't that great, then even if the tattoo is executed flawlessly, the tattoo will only look OK, because the visual impact is limited by the artistic interpretation.
That was all solid advice
@@Reach3DPrinters wow i wish u had a channel, I love ur comment and awesome pointers! Thank you Reach
Can You recommend some some exercises for improving the quality, and consistency of the line? When im looking for any, i only find excersises on paper, which helps, but the paper isnt really good way, if You cant control the thickness and depth. (Excepts for brush pens)
loved your magical cat that vanishes and reappears... lol
Haha, Thanks! If you want to see more check out @stormyandstanly on IG.
Wow so much hate on this video, I thought it was brilliant. Well done for rising above it.
Thank you :)
It's amazing how amazing someone's experience can be so different
You are so good at what you do. Thanks for taking your time to explain all of this ✌🏽
You're welcome, glad I can help.
Thanks for taking the time to make this
Appreciate the review. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
Thank you for your comprehensive and informative reviews and sharing your experience and best practice. Your reviews gave me the confidence to invest in an Archer. Looking forward to trying its. 👍.
Glad it was helpful!
just found your channel and you give out alot of very helpful information thank you!
You’re welcome! Happy to help.
Hey I jus subscribe yesterday. Keep up the good work. I jus started practicing myself.
Thanks for subbing!
You are awesome an thanks for the video upload .very informative!
Thank you so much, glad to help!
The Mast Archer is an amazing piece of equipment.
It definitely is!
Nice review, LOVED the cat, but missed the Mast Tour...? For a rotary pen in the sub-$150 range (as most of these are) the Tour would've been a nice addition to the lineup. And it's quite the little rotary pen for the price. Awesome vid none the less and your cat (cats?) is GORGEOUS!!!
Thank you so much! I have heard many good things about the tour since making this video, I may just have to pick one up. If you want to see more of my cats you can check them out on IG @stormyandstanly
@@FloatyTattoo I'm THERE! They're so adorable! My wife and I have been debating on a breed for our son's first cat and we've been leaning towards a Bengal or a Devon Rex. We LOVE cats!
Mast .cordless what I'm a start off with love the reviews
Good choice!
With that size, I'll create a huge outline and color as I go along.
Down to the bone with the mast....!!!
Baby oil does an amazing job of cleaning fake skins once you are done tattooing. I've been using trueskin lately and it's pretty nice. I really appreciate your reviews, very helpful for beginners like me. 😊
Thank you!
Can't wait to start tattooing just ordered my first cordless machine 😅
That's great, go for it!
Got my machine last week already did a few tattoos on myself Mast Archer works Great in my humble opinion
@@frankybaby89_27 Glad to hear it, keep up the good work!
@@FloatyTattoo thanks likewise
Hey there. I wanted to check out that dagger plus I've been having issues with my cnc q2 and I'm out of warranty. Where did you get yours? I really want the bishop shader wand but I don't have that kind of money...
Hey there, sorry to hear about your q2. I got my Dagger X on amazon here www.amazon.com/EZTAT2-Cartridge-Machine-FAULHABER-Connector/dp/B07MDF6LCF
I also had a machine out of warranty. I just let them know it was having issues during the warranty process. It's a challenge to communicate with them, but they are friendly and care about their machines.
I didn't see any stiffling/pepper shading,all i see is dotwork/shading.. But yeah the dagger x is a great machine,i love Ambitions soldier,ninja,dragonhawk wraith,stigma wireless etc more,alll in all great review
Thank you!
Your an amazing soul! 👏
Wow, thank you!
Great video thank you .!!! I wish i would have seen this video before I bougth my mast your. Not bad for $ 150 Canadians but I would have rather bougth any of these 3 ,probably the #2nd you reviewed. Great video thanks
Out of the 1 and 2d wich one would you recommend .really indecisive in wich one to get. 😅😅✌
@@mauriciorestrepo3906 The second one, Mast Archer I would recommend of the first two, seems to run a bit stronger, with less vibration, and is the best bang for your buck.
Thank you !!
Do you tell this to clients? “Hey by the way I don’t actually care about how your tattoo turns out or the fact that it’s permanent and painful for you so I’m just buying the cheapest junk I can find I hope that’s ok with you “
Did you have issues with the mast tour? I am not a huge fan of it ...I'm gonna try the Archer
The one you refer to as the spinny flashlight needs a pre start- power supply or you can bump your voltage up to start it and then back your voltage back down
Oh that makes sense, thanks for the info!
@@FloatyTattoo also just some constructive criticism. At some point you will need to get into a shop with professionals. it will help you grow and you will learn things that wouldn't be possible by teaching yourself.
That fake skin is nothing like real skin. Maybe try some pig skin, there is more to tattooing than the machine and how you pull a line. Your other hand is also doing things.
But keep up the practice you can get to your goals. but at some point you will have to learn from some professionals.
And practice, practice, practice.
How long does the MAST battery life last on one charge?? I’ve Skaggs been faithful to the OG guns and now I’m looking at the MUMMY R1 … is rotary really better than the OG in most cases or are there better og style guns out there?
The Mast battery life is great, 8-10 hours no problem on a full charge. Rotary is better in many cases, biggest advantages that I see are in ergonomics and convenience, much less vibration (less risk for carpal tunnel and tendinitis) and better weight distribution. The convenience of using cartridges instead of Needle on Bar is great. Lining is where it gets a little tricky to be able to line as fast as you can with a coil because of time the needle spends in the skin on each stroke, or needle dwell time. Check out my video on the Neuma 4 to learn more if you want to see a rotary machine that let's you line as fast as with coil machines while also giving better healing times from my observations.
Link to Neuma 4 Video: th-cam.com/video/E8QQK38tt_M/w-d-xo.html
@@FloatyTattoo .... thank you thats great info ill def check that out. seems a rotary would be good for shading easier than for straight fast lines but ill check tat out thanks again.
Im a pro tattoo artist and my experience is all of 2021 tattoo pen machine are awsome and another things is in your artist hand 😉
Totally, I agree!
What kind of power supply would you recommend and also cartridges?
My top recommendation right now for getting started is the InkClaw C-charged battery (inkclaw.com use code FloatyLady for 15% off), which you can also find rebranded on Amazon as the Dragonhawk B1, although it is not the updated version. For a wired power supply the BRONC on amazon is decent to get started with. For cartridges I like Rhein for budget friendly or Black Claw for top of the line.
Hello. What would you prefer? The cnc q2 or the mast archer?
I would go for the Mast Archer. The motor has less vibration and should last longer.
Wow thank you my friend. I really learned alot in this video. If the motor runs at low voltage it does not mean its stronger. Hence it means the motor is smaller. Bigger motor = more longevity and more power
@@jaberink6069 Yep, you got it, glad I could help.
Dragonhawk ( essence )excellent également.
I enjoyed the magic disappearing cat at the start, i think he was a feline Sam Beckett who completed his quest & was captured leaping out.
🤣
Great video, my only suggestion is pay more attention to where your needle is riding the tube; you'll get cleaner pulls across the board, and a better review overall. Otherwise, GREAT content!!!
Also, with fake skin, A&D BEFORE you pull your lines, it'll keep it from staining, and you'll see your lines clearer
Thank you! You should check out my updated version of this video I just released: 👀 The Best Tattoo Pens on Amazon - 2022 👀
th-cam.com/video/R8aF9aGukTE/w-d-xo.html
the q2 is the best one works great
It’s a good one!
i like your rotary machine mam.. 😍😍😍
Thank you 😊
I love that you want to teach us, but the lines are scratchy because of how you're holding the machine! Try holding it like a rock instead of a pen. And using your shoulder. Never turn up the voltage to get the line.
Thank you for the feedback🙏 To be honest this video is a couple of years old and I have learned a lot since then.
Awesome
Thank you 🙏
i find that the foam paper for scrap booking and stuff works wonders over this fake skin just make sure you get one thick enough. so cheap in comparison too
Thanks for the info :)
Can you share a link?
I’m using my cnc q2 terminator , and my hawkink199 battery doesn’t go all the way in like yours do
Good to know, I haven’t tried out the Terminator, it looks like there were a few design changes.
do you use a foot pedal with these rotary pens ? or are they just running constantly ?
I use a foot pedal for my wired machines. The wireless ones have buttons. I use a Muso Toku power supply and can use the push button too but I prefer the foot switch.
What gun or needle would you use for blackout??
Bishop Liner Wand with InkClaw 123 MAG
Dagger x is sold out some places and $350 2021 price. I don’t think it’s fair to the other pens. Someone needs to go q2 vs mast tour pro on real skin compression
Check out my instagram i only use a Q2, so far so good! Color packs, lines, soft shades it’s awesome! I didn’t buy it from amazon tho i got it from CNC itself 👍
Wish the camera angle was directly pointed at the testing skin the whole time it was alot better 2 watch.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment :)
hello, my name is angel, and i really enjoyed this video i use to make tattoos a really long ago but now days things seems to be way different so i want to coming back and start with tattooing again so my question is which of this amazon Rotary machines do you recommends me to by base on quality and price. cuz im not in the states right now i'm in Dominican Republic. so want to open my shop next year if God allows me to.
Hi Angel, welcome! So I have a few suggestions for newer machines than the ones which are in this video, if you are looking to buy the best machine for the least money I've tried, it is the Mast Saber, which is very similar to the Archer from this video but I like the grip and buttons on it better, it feels nicer in my hand. If you are willing to spend a bit more and invest in a machine which will last you a bit longer I would get the CNC-X-WE (or WE-Plus when they comeback in stock) if you are into Black and Grey Realism work, or if you do more traditional work with bold lines and color I recommend the Rhein 'Red Diamond' or 'Lipstick' Tattoo Pen, it has a very hard hitting motor that can drive larger needle groupings no problem. I will be doing a comparison video on these machines sometime soon. I have reveiws on all of these machines which you can find in my Reviews playlist.
Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it and Imma Wachtel it out on Amazon to compare prices and then I'll let you know which I'll be buying 😉. Thanks alot I love all your videos.
To be honest I'm allways prefer the black and grey works, but I also want to be able to make any kind of work with colors and so. Tanks
@@angelleeacosta1523 the Mast Flip is a great choice too it has all strokes in one machine
which one is better?
Actually a newer pen (MAST Flip) I have done a review on here th-cam.com/video/Ru6UgYXiKCs/w-d-xo.html is my new favorite in this price range. Here is a test with it on human skin th-cam.com/video/lY8RQWoa7o8/w-d-xo.html
Hmm😍 some eye candy for a change, had enough of all these guys with long beirds😂
Thank you 🙏
@@FloatyTattoo no worries, shame I don’t have a photo as we could go Nando’s you little stunner
What's ur best color ink brand?
Fusion is the best color ink I’ve used.
Dynamic / I am ink
eternal
I want the hawken
This video is pretty old, there are much better machines out now. My top 2 are Dragonhawk fold Pro 2024 and the Yilong F8.
@@FloatyTattoo thank you I’m looking at a dragon hawk mast pro tour I think for 65$
I’ll look into those
What makes ink splash/ droplets happen? Asking so I can avoid it
Too much ink in the cartridge, you can help to avoid this by tapping the tip out lightly over a paper towel before bringing it to the skin. Just dip the tip of the needle, don't go too deep in the ink cap. Over time you will get a better feel for how much ink to take in when dipping.
@@FloatyTattoo Thanks, much love
Nah she’s wrong my dude 💯
@@FORTYcaps how?
Using Vaseline on the skin before every line will help, also being mindful of how much ink is in the cartridge. Rinse your needle often. If you’re using a traditional setup, making sure the needle bar rides the back of the tip and having the correct grommet and band tension will prevent this as well. Also shitty watery ink will fall out of the tip before you hit the skin, always use quality trusted products.
Also if you use Vaseline and take 2 or 3 q tips to scrub it out you mat will not get so dirty 😉
😁 why did you get such big gloves?!
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Hi.. how about todays machine? Do you have ? Thanksssss
I will be doing a comparison video one some newer machines soon. Stay tuned!
@@FloatyTattoo wow.. thankss a lot. Im from philippines. Im starting tattoing by next month. Looking for best machine for begginers😅
@@jayreinoso3104 Welcome! I have a new machine coming in this week that may be my new pick for beginners. Video should be out next week.
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the virbration on almost any pen is a fraction of any coil, and more for noise. So for the Q2, both are null points. IMO. And you should not be running your machine on fake skin on a strait table. it's incredibly hard on the machines as most of those are direct drive, and worse for the maxxon. You should at the least have a towel down under it or better yet, mimic actually tattooing and put in on your leg. You're teaching bad habits all around in not wrapping as well.
Why do you think it's incredibly hard on the machines to run them on a straight table, what is the difference? What is the reasoning there? Not sure why it would be worse for the maxxon, it's just a motor brand. I don't usually tattoo people who are sitting on my leg so not sure how that is supposed to help. This is a product demonstration and comparison video where the machines are not being used on a person so wrapping isn't really an issue. Seems like you are grasping pretty hard here to make criticisms. What are your real motivations?
my 2 cents: doing a proper apprenticeship is important in avoiding teaching yourself bad tattooing habits that are difficult to unlearn. machine info was good, thanks.
Good to know, I just don't have the time to do one so I will have to work a bit harder. Thanks for sharing!!
Back in the late 80's I tried to get someone to teach me and I got laughed at. I was told to go to prison. LOL I finally got a lady with 20 years experience to hire me because of my art skills and drawings. I picked up everything I needed to tattoo in a week and boogied. It isn't rocket science. Most of the people today offering apprenticeships are just exploiting people and no better tattooists than many who are self taught.
If you don’t have time to be an apprentice, you shouldn’t be a tattooed period. Then you don’t have the time to be a good artist and improve and actually learn the correct way.
You use too many volts,you can make a line with 5 volts,no matter what powerful the engine is.
Thank you, I have figured that out and did a video on high voltage vs low voltage lining.
yeah was thinking the same thing voltage is way too high you could even drop it down to a 4.8 and get some solid lines
Time stamps? :(
Thanks for the suggestion, time stamps have been added :)
So can you use these on people?
Yes, with proper safety training these can be used on people.
The q2 is not anything like that That's a bad machine mine is basically a db over whispering air for sound and barely vibrates more then a sharpie. Yea you just got a bad 1 unfortunately
I had heard and seen such good things about it, looks like I got a bad one.
U can contact amazon alone and get another sent. I have a cnc q2 and i use it quite frequently. Guys at the shop were really getting a good one off on me for getting it but after seeing some work put out with it another artist got one and it turned into one of his go toos.
That broad had it cranked at like 12 volts lol
where I can buy an artificial skin like yours
Reelskin, you can get it on amazon or direct from their website.
Lol, and you're lining at ten???? You're going to tear people up!!! I line at 6 with that machine (Q2)
I am working on silicone not people here, I use different voltages for each, and to each their own really, this machine is rated to go up to 10v, really just depends on the hand speed you are comfortable with.
Probably why it’s so noisy
Yea she's using fake skin lol
@@scottcarlson3475 Practice is practice. If you're getting in to habits while practicing, you're going to take them with you to the field. Just saying. I've grown and adjusted since then, now line around 8-9 depending on stroke. I only hit ten with a 3mm and below and I work fast.
@@DanWilson420 I understand what your saying but he's just doing it as a demonstration
There’s so much to criticize in this video that I don’t even know where to start but it didn’t bother me because I understand your new to this and it was helpful too those that are shopping for machines on a budget although I would never get one of these have plenty of real brand name machines like bishop and whatnot I have used some of these machines u showed here and they did run well for the price I don’t know about longevity though but kudos on the video keep it going don’t let no one hinder your tattooing goals
As you further your career just come back to this video and your gonna see what you’ve done wrong and laugh rookie mistakes all that it is I sure do laugh at old pictures and videos of my early days of tattooing no1 is ever good or do the right steps in the beginning
Btw the only thing that truly did bother me about the video was those hideous ginormous gloves girl cmon now lol seriously though I’ll give u one tip wearing smaller gloves gives your hand more fatigue during the session less stress in your hand Since the glove is smaller it compress your hand into a ball more making it easier to grip the machine using less force to keep it balled up like that with the machine in hand
I appreciate your honesty and constructive criticism. The gloves are because of supply chain issues, I ordered small nitrile gloves and was sent these generic vinyl gloves. I have seen another video about wearing them tighter and doubling up for ergonomic reasons as you have mentioned. Just started trying it out and it does seem to work well in helping to hold the machine. Thanks again for taking the time to come and comment in such detail.
@@FloatyTattoo no problem and I was just messing with you about the gloves as long as the job gets done right and clean who cares how they fit your hand or how funny they look on your small hand lol but I totally get it we’re in the middle of a pandemic right now and supplies are limited it was hard to buy in bulk for the shop had to go out to so many places to get enough for all of us here as my supplier would only allow me to buy 2 boxes per order but none the less keep it going with tattooing it’s the best decision in life I ever made
Take a veggie rubber band and place on wrists, holds the gloves on a bit better.
And... you look like Anne Hathaway
Wow! Thank you so much!
So you don’t respect tattooing enough to get an apprenticeship? You’d rather do it half assed.
Please elaborate on how it is disrespectful to be an autodidact? Also please present evidence in how I am doing things “Half assed”.
Wtf your cat dissappeared
😂
And that cheap cartridge sounds like death
I think most of the rattling noise is from the cartridge.
she is a freaky person. Lol
Did u just use straight green soap without diluting it ?? 🤔 SMH!!!it wasn't your V it was your hand positioning when your pulling lines! just because it's called a tattoo pen doesn't mean u use it like a pen !!!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment :)
The second u called it a gun made me click out of this
Lol, funny trolling, I literally never call it a gun 🤷♀️
You have no idea wat ur doin
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave such a well thought out comment.
@@FloatyTattoo I only state facts sir
@@hoole1926 fool dont u see lady in her name description??
Who taught you how to tattoo?? So much wrong here.
If you pay attention at all to my channel I am self taught, everything I have done tattoo wise is posted here. Who taught you to tattoo? What does your work look like that makes you qualified to criticize?
Hello Dan, what kind of bad things? I'm self taught too and I would like to know to not do it, thanks :)
She did great for teaching herself
There’s a reason apprenticships are so expensive. It’s a shame anyone can go buy cheap Chinese junk off Amazon and then all the sudden be “a tattoo artist”. It’s like going to a surgeon but instead of sterilized scalpels he has a dirty butter knife. If your not a licensed professional in a licensed shop you shouldn’t be posting this crap acting like you know what your doing. Because we are the ones who end up getting stuck fixing all this kitchen magician scratcher garbage
There is a story of Ansel Adams meeting Ernest Hemingway that goes something like this
Ernest Hemingway: "You take the most amazing photographs I've ever seen! What sort of camera do you use?"
Ansel Adams: "You write the most amazing stories. What sort of typewriter do you use?"
It's not the machine that makes the Artist. Take a look at what Lil B does with a machine he made from scrapyard parts. th-cam.com/video/nWCQt0LI6mc/w-d-xo.html
Some people learn best from an apprenticeship, some are better at teaching themselves, and many do best with a bit of both. It's all about what learning style fits you best.
You may have missed the part of the video where I say that I am just practicing on fake skin with these machines. th-cam.com/video/X5lNK6HQ-Xk/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your honest feedback.
I think you need to chill a little bit...
Most of the tattoo artists start practicing at home and then with friends.
You don't pay for apprenticeship, you get a position in a studio if you have a solid portfolio. If you're lucky and persistent.
This video is obviously just a small guide for beginners and someone who would like to start in the tattoo's world.
Yes, she is still has a lot to learn herself, but she just posted a review about the pens, this is not a tatt masterclass.
A couple of those pens are actually not that bad (cnc q2 and Archer),they're definitely not a £500 Cheyenne pen, but they do a decent job without messing up your skin as other Amazon's crap.
So this is helpful for people who has no clue and they were thinking to buy the cheapest pen on eBay.
This is what TH-cam was created for, to help people out and share your knowledge/opinion.
A lot of tattoo artists are too arrogant to share their experience to help others, but they're the first ones to come after people like her that are trying to help out...
Wow what a an arrogant thing to say, aswell a just being a duck move on your part, you do know some of the best tattooist in the world are self taught right? Not to mention the fact that you watched this video, so what was the reason if you that good why you watching a beginners guide to machines? Ever heard the praise over compensating for something. Yeah that comes to mind....
You're* assuming
Sounds like job security to me
bad thing about you you're not a pro artist...it means a lot with using those gloves with large size lol... i think you should learn a lot more...,😂😂😂😂😂
I appreciate your well thought out constructive criticism. 🙏
What does gloves have to do with being a artist???
@@chefkenburnem211 everything!
what do you think she is doing....
Lady your cat keeps disapparating.. MAGICAL 🤣
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