Originally bought the Duo 1 as a secondary device. However, I've been using the Duo 1 as my daily phone for the past week or so. I don't hear many people talk about one of the biggest pluses with this phone and that is the single screen aspect ratio. It is so much nice than the tall skinny phones. It is a lot closer to the original Galaxy Note that I had.
I bought duo 2 and had the fold 3. I am so happy with it. I multi-task like a beast. I didn't need a phone with everything blown up. I barely opened it. I find myself opening this up a lot. I was able to download my work stuff and can communicate like crazy. Hard to explain. I find I leave my laptop at work ans use this in its place. Reading is amazing, games, you tube, email and etc. If on fence give it try. All the updates have made this awesome. :) having two full screen to use together or separate is just like dual monitors which is so great. Using the pen is super awesome too.
Thanks for the update...I am using the Duo 1 and I really like it, of course for the discounted price and after all the updates. This is my Blackberry replacement for now.
I just bought duo 1 128gb new for $289 and a refurbished Galaxy watch 3 for $100. Not having notifications showing outside does make it less user friendly. However this is all solved after having a smart watch that can text, call, navigate, and read notifications. I use to think having a smart watch was repetitive and not needed until I got this phone. The duo 1 doesn't have any good case protection against drops. So just more reason to use the smart watch while leaving the phone in the pocket because it's a huge phone. I use the duo for multi tasking when I am sitting down on a table. I usually browse on my dual monitor PC with 4 window open for browsing online. So having duo 1 as a phone is perfect for me.
I had to send mine back to Microsoft for a warranty battery replacement. (Think it was because I had a version of TH-cam Vanced that drained battery fast, which resulted in me putting it through a lot of charge cycles. AccuBattery had it at about 15-20% of the max capacity lost, which tracks with how much battery life I got compared to Shane Craig's.) Held off doing it until yesterday. I already miss it.
Someone in the comments mentioned the V60 which was my phone before I upgraded to the Fold 4. I would have loved to try the Duo 2 but when picking the Fold 4 over it but there were 2 main reasons I did and still would. Cover Screen- Having the cover screen makes the Fold 4 feel like 2 devices in one. I hated always having to open the V60 to use it if I just wanted to take a picture, send a quick message, or take a quick note, I always had to open the device up. The fact that the Duo 2 has no cover display (LG had at least notifcations on the cover) means that opening it for quick things might actually take longer so it depends on how you will use it. Multitasking- The multitasking gets brought up for having the 2 independent screens and a better aspect ratio on Duo. I 100% agree with that and think this can be a personal preference thing, but for my use case, the cover screen is a great size to do "phone" tasks and when I need more screen real estate or will be looking at my phone for longer than a couple of minutes. When that happens I can then enjoy the app using the bigger screen or I can easily multitask in ways that the Duo 2 is more limited. I have many times 3 windows open on the Fold 4 which I can not do or would be a more limited exeprience. on the Duo 2. You may have to think more to multitask on the Fold, but Samsung makes that very easy with all of the different options. With that being said, if you own a V60, Duo, or Fold device, you are a different kind of user and we all have something in common in what we want from our phones.
I want one so badly! But im not gonna pay 1500 bucks for a phone. Hopefully it will go back to $1000 or lower at some point. Probably my favorite phone in the market though currently. Can't wait what the surface duo 3 will be like next year (if there is one).
I came to say this. It's amazing how little people realize how good the device is. I had the Duo 1 and gave it to my son after I dropped it a couple times and got small cracks. He's obsessed. I've wanted the Duo 2 and was going to buy it when it went to $999 but when I went to pull the trigger it was back at $1,499. Now I'm debating hoping/waiting for a 3 or getting another sale. 5G is what made me move from the OG Duo.
Great content. I wish samsung would make a fold with gorilla glass and when you open it the two pieces of screen would come together and lock in using the hinge. Then when you close the hinge will release them. Just think when the lock in together no seam down the center.
I definitely agree with your point regarding new phones released every year. Smartphone makers should stop doing that and instead they should just focus on improving the software experience of their existing products. Smartphones nowadays have became bland, upgrading every year is just pointless.
How is it to watch a video on both screens? I have a fold 4 and the screen went bad with a horizontal green line then whole inside screen died in 3 weeks. They wouldn't warranty it so i used insurance to get a new one and the exact defect happened 3 weeks in. I don'ttrust there screen now so looking for another dual screen option.
I don't know I think they supported the duo 1 pretty well. They did patches and security updates almost monthly. It did take them 3 months or so to get the phone stable. And then it probably took another 5 months to get android 11 on it and that's when things really started to improve and right around that time the 2 launched and no one really cared about the 1 anymore. But the Duo 1 is an entirely decent device. I really purchased one used for just a stupid good price ($80 us) and am super impressed with it. Yes the touch function sometimes is wonky. But it works really well with a pen, and it runs pretty quick. I like the flat form factor of not having the camera bump. I wish it wasn't glass all over. I think a soft touch plastic backing would have been great for this type of device. It would have been lighter, less prone to breaks (There are broken back surfaces all over ebay) and they didn't include wireless charging anyway so there's no reason it needed to be glass or ceramic. I get that people think of glass as "premium" now but I hate it myself. We had gotten to a point where flagship phones all had really nice aluminum unibodies and they looked great and held up well and now we're getting all these glass devices that get smashed, and fingerprint like crazy and look terrible after a couple minutes of use.
i dropped my duo 2 for the first time yesterday in phone mode and scratched the front display on concrete. Not happy about it but it did not crack the screen. I wish I had a screen protector on it. The duo has been my daily driver for a couple of years now. No way I can go back to a regular bar phone.
Here's a thought. Duo 3= 3 screens. Front screen so you don't have to open it to read messages and do basic stuff. 2 more screens when you unfold it. Id buy that in a heartbeat
I love the idea of the Duo. I use a Surface Pro 7 and docking station for my desktop. But it has the same problem as Windows Phone, which I also liked and owned - no apps for something I would carry around.
I think they got the design right. Just add a screen on the top half of the front. No need for a full front screen. I prefer the duo design just add a few updates. Like I said small front screen, update the cameras, 120 hertz inner displays and update the chipset that's it
Has anyone here ever seen the interview Panos did on Duo 1 on Unbox Therapy? Where the thought behind the device as a whole, (crappy) camera and no outside screen (!) was explained? We all ask for things in Duo that are actually not part of the desigh ideas of Duo in the first place. And actually for good reason, as it's not a phone to begin with.
Yes. I would like to see a comparison between the Duo 2 and Z4. A big use case for me would be using the device for presentations and MS Office or Google drive documents. Reference material one screen and my notes on the other and I am thinking the duo would be better suited for that. I know these devices might be a little small but I think I would use them like that. I don't game!! and I am not finding a lot of good tech comparison videos geared towards just business productivity.
I had the Duo 2 and was so careful to not drop it and crack all that glass for a Whole 2 months then Lost it in Las Vegas. I never been so hurt losing Any phone ....Felt like my Dog Died horribly.
@@TechOdyssey Yeah it sucks even more because I have a insurance plan on it and I can't even get a brand new one right now for a $300 deductible at Best Buy. I may end up getting another Duo 1 but damn the difference in cameras and speakers among other things is night and day.
I´ve never understood the drama regarding the camerabump anyway. There were loads of complaints regarding the camera of Duo 1, and as soon as MS deals with that ( and that camera and is functional purpose actually had some thought behind it ) a bunch of people start to moan about the bump. It's never good enough for some folks In think..
No problem @@jimroscovius, BTW... My daily driver is an iPhone. I use my Android equipment as backup or secondary. I never had a Windows phone but I do remember them. It makes me wonder if Microsoft will ever release a Duo-3 phone, or will they drop it.🤔
I love my Surface Duo. The two screens are wonderful and highly productive. I think Microsoft should market it better to professionals, such as traders, financial professionals, and others. I would like Microsoft keep the two display firm!
Well I have to admit I love and hate the device at the same time, so I changed to another. It has still many Software bugs for months and they are never fixing them, especially if both screens are used at the same time. Some apps crash if stretched over both screens, sometimes the keyboard is not shown if two apps are open next to each other, or the keyboard appears on the other screen, what is very weird. And its not useable for about 3 seconds after unlock often. Its a very cool device and I love the wider screen, but it has too many downgrades for me.
Yeah skipped the fold 4 and opted for the s22 ultra. I waited to see what it was like and then I think Samsung still has a long way to go with their foldables. Especially where the battery life is concerned.
I'd get one but once the Duo 3 is out with 1 screen the others aren't gon a be a focus. They are already gonna abandon the 2 screen form. Just like Microsoft.
It's a great device but they're not supporting it enough! whenever I need to do something, the 15% it doesn't act when wanted when it comes to touch input or the fold screen to the point where it's like "wife, pull out your iPhone and take a picture of this please" sure I don't use it for the camera.. but I need a device to work 99% of the time. Not 85%, the 15% is when I need it the most... freezes, camera not good quality for what it HAS, and lastly not responsive when you need it.
What amuses me is the "What ifs" and the expectations of "techies" from the Duo line up. Let's get this clear, the Duo is NOT a phone, it is a tablet that CAN do phone stuff. Microsoft is not looking to make a "phone" to compete with the SamApples. They want to make a companion Surface device that can serve as a phone when needed for your Surface products. Make no mistake, this is a Surface device that just so happens to run Android, not the other way around.
the front and back covers need to be plastic, not stupid glass!!!! if you crack either one, the warranty is void which is stupid!!!! It's like voiding a car warranty because you have a chip in your windshield! I will not buy thier product till they imporve warranty support.
Sorry. Strongly disagree. Even after a year, people still laughably trying to sell these phones for $1500 (Amazon)?! You compare to Samsung & iPhones which both sell cheaper in comparison to this device with better camera, internals and software. Microsoft messed up and lost whatever goodwill people might have had with these devices. Can't charge that kind of money when software, bugs, hardware all not ready. Microsoft priced itself out of the market. Duo 1 with outdated hardware, Duo 2 with pre-release software?! Really?? Duo still awful and gimmicky at best for 2022.
Good luck with Android 13. Hopefully it actually happens. It’s not way better. You may prefer it and it might be a better value, but it’s not way better.
Originally bought the Duo 1 as a secondary device. However, I've been using the Duo 1 as my daily phone for the past week or so. I don't hear many people talk about one of the biggest pluses with this phone and that is the single screen aspect ratio. It is so much nice than the tall skinny phones. It is a lot closer to the original Galaxy Note that I had.
Yes I want a wide phone
I can't get enough of my Duo 1. I am also anticipating Android 12L.
This.
@@thibaldus3 Hi
Great video Adam! I'm OG Duo squad and I've been really happy with my Duo and Duo 2. Keep covering Duo!
I bought duo 2 and had the fold 3. I am so happy with it. I multi-task like a beast. I didn't need a phone with everything blown up. I barely opened it. I find myself opening this up a lot. I was able to download my work stuff and can communicate like crazy. Hard to explain. I find I leave my laptop at work ans use this in its place. Reading is amazing, games, you tube, email and etc. If on fence give it try. All the updates have made this awesome. :) having two full screen to use together or separate is just like dual monitors which is so great. Using the pen is super awesome too.
Yes i do want to see the Fold 4 vs the Duo 2 video 🙏
Fold 4 vs duo 2 would be cool
I’d love to see a comparison between the Duo 2 and the Fold 4!
Another great, honest video. Thank you!
Check out Shane Craig's channel on YT
Thanks for the update...I am using the Duo 1 and I really like it, of course for the discounted price and after all the updates. This is my Blackberry replacement for now.
Not a bad plan!
Do you have a Blackberry launcher?
I just bought duo 1 128gb new for $289 and a refurbished Galaxy watch 3 for $100.
Not having notifications showing outside does make it less user friendly. However this is all solved after having a smart watch that can text, call, navigate, and read notifications. I use to think having a smart watch was repetitive and not needed until I got this phone.
The duo 1 doesn't have any good case protection against drops. So just more reason to use the smart watch while leaving the phone in the pocket because it's a huge phone. I use the duo for multi tasking when I am sitting down on a table.
I usually browse on my dual monitor PC with 4 window open for browsing online. So having duo 1 as a phone is perfect for me.
I had to send mine back to Microsoft for a warranty battery replacement. (Think it was because I had a version of TH-cam Vanced that drained battery fast, which resulted in me putting it through a lot of charge cycles. AccuBattery had it at about 15-20% of the max capacity lost, which tracks with how much battery life I got compared to Shane Craig's.) Held off doing it until yesterday. I already miss it.
They are still supporting it but I see they took it off their website
Someone in the comments mentioned the V60 which was my phone before I upgraded to the Fold 4. I would have loved to try the Duo 2 but when picking the Fold 4 over it but there were 2 main reasons I did and still would.
Cover Screen- Having the cover screen makes the Fold 4 feel like 2 devices in one. I hated always having to open the V60 to use it if I just wanted to take a picture, send a quick message, or take a quick note, I always had to open the device up. The fact that the Duo 2 has no cover display (LG had at least notifcations on the cover) means that opening it for quick things might actually take longer so it depends on how you will use it.
Multitasking- The multitasking gets brought up for having the 2 independent screens and a better aspect ratio on Duo. I 100% agree with that and think this can be a personal preference thing, but for my use case, the cover screen is a great size to do "phone" tasks and when I need more screen real estate or will be looking at my phone for longer than a couple of minutes. When that happens I can then enjoy the app using the bigger screen or I can easily multitask in ways that the Duo 2 is more limited. I have many times 3 windows open on the Fold 4 which I can not do or would be a more limited exeprience. on the Duo 2.
You may have to think more to multitask on the Fold, but Samsung makes that very easy with all of the different options. With that being said, if you own a V60, Duo, or Fold device, you are a different kind of user and we all have something in common in what we want from our phones.
I want one so badly! But im not gonna pay 1500 bucks for a phone. Hopefully it will go back to $1000 or lower at some point. Probably my favorite phone in the market though currently. Can't wait what the surface duo 3 will be like next year (if there is one).
I paid 1,650 for a phone and 1,800 for an IPad lol you smell like broke
I got lucky and found a brand new one on Mercari for around $800 a few months ago.
Check on ebay I bought one for $800 right before the inventory issues, brand new. The guy had like 5 more brand new.
I came to say this. It's amazing how little people realize how good the device is. I had the Duo 1 and gave it to my son after I dropped it a couple times and got small cracks. He's obsessed. I've wanted the Duo 2 and was going to buy it when it went to $999 but when I went to pull the trigger it was back at $1,499. Now I'm debating hoping/waiting for a 3 or getting another sale. 5G is what made me move from the OG Duo.
Go for the Surface Duo One, good device for the price, and now is $350 on Amazon
Great content. I wish samsung would make a fold with gorilla glass and when you open it the two pieces of screen would come together and lock in using the hinge. Then when you close the hinge will release them. Just think when the lock in together no seam down the center.
It was never dead and even Microsoft itself still selling duo 1 and duo 2 now that's awesome
I didn’t say it was dead?
I definitely agree with your point regarding new phones released every year. Smartphone makers should stop doing that and instead they should just focus on improving the software experience of their existing products.
Smartphones nowadays have became bland, upgrading every year is just pointless.
How is it to watch a video on both screens? I have a fold 4 and the screen went bad with a horizontal green line then whole inside screen died in 3 weeks. They wouldn't warranty it so i used insurance to get a new one and the exact defect happened 3 weeks in. I don'ttrust there screen now so looking for another dual screen option.
Yup, would love that comparison. I had an original Duo and now have a Fold 4.
In your description you say it rivals the Surface Duo 4. I think you mean the Samsung Fold 4. Would love to see a video comparing them both.
I don't know I think they supported the duo 1 pretty well. They did patches and security updates almost monthly. It did take them 3 months or so to get the phone stable. And then it probably took another 5 months to get android 11 on it and that's when things really started to improve and right around that time the 2 launched and no one really cared about the 1 anymore. But the Duo 1 is an entirely decent device. I really purchased one used for just a stupid good price ($80 us) and am super impressed with it. Yes the touch function sometimes is wonky. But it works really well with a pen, and it runs pretty quick. I like the flat form factor of not having the camera bump. I wish it wasn't glass all over. I think a soft touch plastic backing would have been great for this type of device. It would have been lighter, less prone to breaks (There are broken back surfaces all over ebay) and they didn't include wireless charging anyway so there's no reason it needed to be glass or ceramic. I get that people think of glass as "premium" now but I hate it myself. We had gotten to a point where flagship phones all had really nice aluminum unibodies and they looked great and held up well and now we're getting all these glass devices that get smashed, and fingerprint like crazy and look terrible after a couple minutes of use.
I'd like to see a comparison video between those 2 phones.
Hopefully the additional support helps this device
i dropped my duo 2 for the first time yesterday in phone mode and scratched the front display on concrete. Not happy about it but it did not crack the screen. I wish I had a screen protector on it. The duo has been my daily driver for a couple of years now. No way I can go back to a regular bar phone.
Here's a thought. Duo 3= 3 screens. Front screen so you don't have to open it to read messages and do basic stuff. 2 more screens when you unfold it. Id buy that in a heartbeat
That would certainly be interesting to see
I would love to see the Duo 2 vs the Fold 4…
I love the idea of the Duo. I use a Surface Pro 7 and docking station for my desktop. But it has the same problem as Windows Phone, which I also liked and owned - no apps for something I would carry around.
The Duos run Android so it has access to plenty of apps.
@@NickSiekierski Yeah, I found that out. Thanks!! I hadn't read closely enough. May be my next phone.
Love the content and how you break things down and really talk about the phone as an actual user but is it worth buying a surface Duo 2 in 2023.
The only foldable phone I have ever considered.
I would like to see the comparison with the Z Fold 4... that would be cool
I got one off of swappa for $650 still evaluating how it will work for me!
Wow. Great price
I think they got the design right. Just add a screen on the top half of the front. No need for a full front screen. I prefer the duo design just add a few updates. Like I said small front screen, update the cameras, 120 hertz inner displays and update the chipset that's it
Best ebook on the market, I'm hooked!
Has anyone here ever seen the interview Panos did on Duo 1 on Unbox Therapy? Where the thought behind the device as a whole, (crappy) camera and no outside screen (!) was explained? We all ask for things in Duo that are actually not part of the desigh ideas of Duo in the first place. And actually for good reason, as it's not a phone to begin with.
Yes. I would like to see a comparison between the Duo 2 and Z4. A big use case for me would be using the device for presentations and MS Office or Google drive documents. Reference material one screen and my notes on the other and I am thinking the duo would be better suited for that. I know these devices might be a little small but I think I would use them like that.
I don't game!! and I am not finding a lot of good tech comparison videos geared towards just business productivity.
I like that Duo 2. I may have to try it if the price drops a little more
Is this phone on Android 12 or 13?
Great presentation!
It’s a fun phone. I just need more screen time between using my Pixel Pro 6, iPhone 14 Pro, and my desktops.
I had the Duo 2 and was so careful to not drop it and crack all that glass for a Whole 2 months then Lost it in Las Vegas. I never been so hurt losing Any phone ....Felt like my Dog Died horribly.
Oh no! That's horrible man... I would die inside. I'm so sorry
@@TechOdyssey Yeah it sucks even more because I have a insurance plan on it and I can't even get a brand new one right now for a $300 deductible at Best Buy. I may end up getting another Duo 1 but damn the difference in cameras and speakers among other things is night and day.
Somewhere out there there's a stripper tying to figure out what this folding thing is.
I´ve never understood the drama regarding the camerabump anyway. There were loads of complaints regarding the camera of Duo 1, and as soon as MS deals with that ( and that camera and is functional purpose actually had some thought behind it ) a bunch of people start to moan about the bump. It's never good enough for some folks In think..
Great Vidoe ! Say can you do a vidoe on the Astro Slide 5G? I got one and I love it. its the sister of the Cosmo
Interesting since all 3 BBYs in my area were told to ship all stock back. Hey maybe it was a happy accident.
I hear that the next iteration of the Surface Duo is going to be a folding OLED like the Fold. Makes me sad.
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Comparison please!! 🙏
I traded my Z Fold 3 for a Surface Duo 2 a couple months ago. Best upgrade I ever made.👍
What do you do for apps?
@@jimroscovius The Duo-2 runs Android 11 (soon to be 12L) so apps are not a problem.
@@Electro489 Thanks, I should have looked closer. I was thinking it was like a Surface Pro, for some reason. I did like Windows Phone though 🙂
No problem @@jimroscovius, BTW... My daily driver is an iPhone. I use my Android equipment as backup or secondary. I never had a Windows phone but I do remember them. It makes me wonder if Microsoft will ever release a Duo-3 phone, or will they drop it.🤔
@@Electro489 I heard rumors of a Duo-3 maybe being announced this month, but just rumors.
I love my Surface Duo. The two screens are wonderful and highly productive. I think Microsoft should market it better to professionals, such as traders, financial professionals, and others. I would like Microsoft keep the two display firm!
I use Supershieldz for my Duo 2; they work great!
Nice!
Well I have to admit I love and hate the device at the same time, so I changed to another.
It has still many Software bugs for months and they are never fixing them, especially if both screens are used at the same time.
Some apps crash if stretched over both screens, sometimes the keyboard is not shown if two apps are open next to each other, or the keyboard
appears on the other screen, what is very weird. And its not useable for about 3 seconds after unlock often.
Its a very cool device and I love the wider screen, but it has too many downgrades for me.
Yeah skipped the fold 4 and opted for the s22 ultra. I waited to see what it was like and then I think Samsung still has a long way to go with their foldables. Especially where the battery life is concerned.
Comparison Comparison!!
Does it play Apex Legends Mobile?
It can
Contrary to popular belief, this gave me a blackberry flashback
I miss blackberry 😣
I'd get one but once the Duo 3 is out with 1 screen the others aren't gon a be a focus. They are already gonna abandon the 2 screen form. Just like Microsoft.
I'm the complete opposite of you. I hate the bumpers so I don't use them but I won't carry this thing without a skin😂
duo vs fold
Yes make that vid Adam👊👊👊 oh yeah Xtremeskins make clear skins also Adam 👍
I just don't like the hinge with the space..it's like two door hang on to each other ..the size is dope thou
It's a great device but they're not supporting it enough! whenever I need to do something, the 15% it doesn't act when wanted when it comes to touch input or the fold screen to the point where it's like "wife, pull out your iPhone and take a picture of this please" sure I don't use it for the camera.. but I need a device to work 99% of the time. Not 85%, the 15% is when I need it the most... freezes, camera not good quality for what it HAS, and lastly not responsive when you need it.
I 💕 duo but I think Microsoft made a mistake the second time in terms of specifications Vs price. ☺️☺️
surface duo 2 i miss mine RIP no inventory when my hinge died s22 ultra same price so not comparable duo 2 RIP
What amuses me is the "What ifs" and the expectations of "techies" from the Duo line up. Let's get this clear, the Duo is NOT a phone, it is a tablet that CAN do phone stuff. Microsoft is not looking to make a "phone" to compete with the SamApples. They want to make a companion Surface device that can serve as a phone when needed for your Surface products. Make no mistake, this is a Surface device that just so happens to run Android, not the other way around.
Agreed. I'd buy this despite its camera and phone capabilities. I don't want it for those! It is the only folding concept that I really understand.
This aged well…. :(
the front and back covers need to be plastic, not stupid glass!!!! if you crack either one, the warranty is void which is stupid!!!! It's like voiding a car warranty because you have a chip in your windshield! I will not buy thier product till they imporve warranty support.
Sorry. Strongly disagree. Even after a year, people still laughably trying to sell these phones for $1500 (Amazon)?! You compare to Samsung & iPhones which both sell cheaper in comparison to this device with better camera, internals and software. Microsoft messed up and lost whatever goodwill people might have had with these devices. Can't charge that kind of money when software, bugs, hardware all not ready. Microsoft priced itself out of the market. Duo 1 with outdated hardware, Duo 2 with pre-release software?! Really?? Duo still awful and gimmicky at best for 2022.
Great phone but video didn't age well as it's not sold anymore lol.
This videos is almost a year old dude.
when i hear "microsoft" product...
i think "BIOS/DOS" & open system to install ANY OS i desire...
so this is a disappointment(personally...)
For 400 USD my LG V60 is still way better with my dual screen and pen. Sept security update and promised Android 13 next year.
Naaah
Good luck with Android 13. Hopefully it actually happens. It’s not way better. You may prefer it and it might be a better value, but it’s not way better.
Compare them
Hi
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no sdcard slot, no thanks
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Show the surface not your face 😂
Lol
Im so sorry to say it but you talk too much 😮💨
Don’t watch.
@@TechOdyssey yeah i didnt 😮💨
Techodyssey is talking sense and sharing his user experience… and different from others……if you don’t like just don’t watch
@@rbluxhome then why waste everyone’s time leaving a useless comment
why watch ? lol just move on then