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  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +697

    Lucian was definitely a great character Michael did a brilliant job in the role ⭐

    • @coganLollins
      @coganLollins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Absolutely! Wish we got another movie with him

    • @archangel5627
      @archangel5627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I completely agree. Not only did he do a fantastic job playing Lucian but he also brought a lot of emotional weight to the role. With that being said, I also wanted more of Micheal Corvin’s character as the Hybrid. The first two films made him out to be this epic character only for him to basically get killed off screen without the actual actor playing him. What a total waste! If an actor doesn’t want to continue with a role then I’m all for recasting, especially when their story isn’t finished being told. Needless to say, the Underworld franchise has definitely made some pretty big mistakes and it’s a shame the later films don’t stack up to the first three.

    • @semperfiyorkies
      @semperfiyorkies ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Michael was an epic part to the movies and they wasted it. From what I’ve read I don’t blame him for not returning. Lucien was phenomenal. I wish he wasn’t killed so early.

    • @Dumapower1996
      @Dumapower1996 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@archangel5627agreed 👍.

    • @erincoco612
      @erincoco612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They killed him and Amelia off so dirty. Absolutely insane.

  • @MrBeautiful2908
    @MrBeautiful2908 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Lucian is definitely my favorite Underworld character. He represents humility, determination, strength, loyalty, grace, and compassion. Most importantly, he’s always a man of his word.

  • @Thromash
    @Thromash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    Rise of the Lycans was 100% my favorite, they did a great job.

  • @ESUTERURE
    @ESUTERURE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +973

    Fun fact. William the brother whom became the first werewolf was bitten by a RABID wolf. So in reality his aggression comes from rabies. Fascinating. Of course Alexander his father said William was prone to rage and bloodlust before his transformation.

    • @jebVlogs556
      @jebVlogs556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      I am glad you mentioned this cause its true. What Victor never mention to any of his coven members is that werewolves and vampires are family members to an extent(through William and Marcus)
      Tanis the record keeper is one of the few elders that knew of this (but of course Marcus kills him)

    • @ESUTERURE
      @ESUTERURE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      @@jebVlogs556 yep the vampire and werewolf races are technically cousins. Both bloodlines coming from brothers. Ironically twin brothers. The brother also had a unique psychic connection even after their transformations. Their father Alexander couldn't even explain their strong bond.

    • @coganLollins
      @coganLollins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      I think you are right, The bat that bit marcus also had some kind of virus which was the reason marcus changed but I don’t think it was rabies

    • @ESUTERURE
      @ESUTERURE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@coganLollins I had read it was a rabid wolf. Makes total sense why the werewolves of that universe are so aggressive and how their lycanthropy spreads so easily. Unsure if Marcus was bitten by a rabid bat. But William the twin brother was bitten by the rabid wolf.

    • @desmondedwards8234
      @desmondedwards8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      ​@@coganLollins Don't forget that since the werewolves are immoral they get stronger with age too. Look at how they took out Amelia, I bet William was stronger than viktor

  • @jmd9402
    @jmd9402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +671

    Lucian was probably the best character in the franchise. hell, they could probably replace selene with him since kate Beckinsale hates the franchise. Why they killed him off so early will always baffle me

    • @PaynePresents
      @PaynePresents 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      True

    • @jamesbaggett3655
      @jamesbaggett3655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think there was gonna be a second ROTL film.

    • @coganLollins
      @coganLollins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      I agree it was strange to kill him off in the first film. It would be awesome if we got another underworld with lucian

    • @Sonjaslostson
      @Sonjaslostson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@coganLollins I'd have liked to see Lucian get the justice/revenge he craved with Selene's help. But that's what fanfic is for, I guess.

    • @ornu01
      @ornu01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Probably hadn't fully thought out his backstory then, at least not the full implications and repercussions.

  • @jazzie9247
    @jazzie9247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    the prequel was surprisingly the best in the franchise

    • @eggheadsentertainment8686
      @eggheadsentertainment8686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      YESSSSS!!!!👊🏾

    • @jackf1830
      @jackf1830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      One of them for sure.
      The first one will always hold a special place in my heart.

    • @AKKSV
      @AKKSV ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually my favourite movie of all time... Yes

    • @TheSLashera
      @TheSLashera ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can't believe it's so heavily criticized. It's the lowest score and I also remember it being the best. .

    • @Dumapower1996
      @Dumapower1996 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really do like the prequel but 1 then 2 then the prequel. The last 2 nope

  • @robangel0816
    @robangel0816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I own every single Underworld film, and I want ONE more. Rise of the Lycans was an amazing story, easily one of my favorites in the series. I think Amelia deserves a storyline, hopefully she gets it.

    • @coganLollins
      @coganLollins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I agree She created the eastern coven and the secret Nordic coven, would be cool to see that happen

  • @bradwolf07
    @bradwolf07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Lucian was one of my favorite characters. His motivation wasn't immediately apparent. But once it is revealed, he was sympathetic and understandable.
    The prequel was so good thanks to Michael Sheen's performance.

  • @MikeLitirous
    @MikeLitirous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    You should DEFINITELY do ‘Being Human’. Such a unique concept for a show. I remember watching it air when I was in high school and then it being unexpectedly cancelled

    • @smollgar
      @smollgar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Des Su I watched them both :)

    • @naughtysims30
      @naughtysims30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@smollgar I also watched them both. I saw the BBC version first then the American. I can say I liked the BBC version better tho.

    • @bradwolf07
      @bradwolf07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That is a fantastic idea. He could do a side by side comparison of British to American versions. And if he does just one version, it will still be a great video.

    • @gloomy9100
      @gloomy9100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And make it the uk version

    • @RobOlivierbjr64
      @RobOlivierbjr64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sam Witwer is so underrated as a vampire👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😎

  • @leannkennett905
    @leannkennett905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    As Lucian said to victor just before his death. He may be dying but his will is done regardless. This could apply twofold. Not only did Lucian create a hybrid but he had Selene a close daughter figure who loved a Lycan do it. (history repeating itself but the doomed couple winning in the end.)

  • @smollgar
    @smollgar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    Lets be real Lucian was the best character in all the movies :)

  • @arianparker2482
    @arianparker2482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I agree with everything you said in the video. The first Underworld and Rise of The Lycans are also my favorite of the franchise.

  • @OliverReynolds123
    @OliverReynolds123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The Underworld series is amazing, My favourite species that appears in the movie we’re the 1st generation of Werewolves and the Lycan Dominant
    Vampire Hybrid.

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's good and I enjoyed it but felt it was missing something that could make it epic. It's partly due to a weak script and partly weak direction.

  • @jaywolf1998
    @jaywolf1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Lucian was By far my favourite character, definitely the real hero of underworld in my opinion.

  • @markagrippa4018
    @markagrippa4018 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Man I remember first seeing the trailer for Rise of Lycans I was so fkn hyped, Lucian is a great character and so is Victor, wish they did more on that story line

  • @MrProteeus
    @MrProteeus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was so glad lucian had his own movie explaining to how it all began…..didn’t want him to die but he kicked ass in the prequel

  • @DARKNI6HT
    @DARKNI6HT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Couldn't have found a more capable actor for playing the character Lucian, Michael Sheen ftw! The first movie and RotL were my favourite ones! Big fan of the classic horror genre

  • @chosenchad1155
    @chosenchad1155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    8:30 lol the wise words of Belethor Sigard once said "Ones man's junk is another man's treasure..."

  • @jlogan2228
    @jlogan2228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    underworld really did a great job of showing how OP a werewolf actually is especially when they can change at will and maintain human intelligence.
    human form you are already significantly stronger, faster, more durable, and such as a baseline comparable to vampires. when transformed its like supersayain

  • @Dragon2439
    @Dragon2439 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My favorite is so hard to pick between the first and third underworld movies. I agree with you that Lucian is probably the most interesting character and that Michael Sheen knocked it out of the park. But Selene is also a complete badass and I just love whenever she is on screen too in the first one. They did such a good job in the first movie with having Lucian framed as the villain and Viktor as a hero while slowly flipping it as you learn more and more. Shout out to the line "As I am forced to do yet again" the way Bill Nighy says it is so weighted, and once you know everything it is so full of meaning.

  • @jamesabernethy7896
    @jamesabernethy7896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really nice little Lore video. Although they had some weaker moments, the Underworld moves were generally pretty good. Michael Sheen is a great actor who really chooses some diverse roles. He is far from the most physically imposing man in the world, but from his first moment on screen he had presence. On a slight side note, I love the scene where he chases down the car in the first film. Such a well-constructed scene.

  • @ChristiaanNdoro
    @ChristiaanNdoro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for making this video. Rise of the Lycans was my fav too, by far - and I think the franchise owners missed an opportunity to continue the story better in Awakening.
    Its interesting looking at how the IMDB ratings got progressively worse
    2003 Underworld 7
    2006 Evolution 6.7
    2009 Rise of the Lycans 6.5
    2012 Awakening 6.3
    2016 Blood Wars 5.7

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this in-depth analysis of this character.

  • @andreagayle1972
    @andreagayle1972 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for these videos! Now I understand how the Movies connect. Thank you, thank you thank you!

  • @isabelrodriguezsjolund9701
    @isabelrodriguezsjolund9701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful video. Whenever I watch your videos I just keep thinking about how I wish we would get more Underworld media, an animated series would perfect.

  • @FRCB
    @FRCB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Underworld Evolution is my favorite in the series. Also, I would like to see you cover The Order.

  • @kylekris5798
    @kylekris5798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I just found it so absurd that Viktor, a vampire elder with the ability to access blood memories, didn’t even try to drink Kraven’s blood to verify and confirm Lucian’s death. You bite your own daughter to verify your suspicions against Lucian but don’t do the same to Kraven to verify his claim, like make it make sense lmao. That’s one of the things i never understood throughout the series.

    • @fersho450
      @fersho450 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Viktor is an hypocrite in all means.
      Remember he punished Lucian for litterally saving every vampire And his own daughter just because he transformed. And then wondered why he betrayed him lol

    • @carlosruben3045
      @carlosruben3045 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's politics... Kraven was a loyal servant to Viktor that's why he believed in him..

    • @Pb-rw7gs
      @Pb-rw7gs ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kraven makes it seem that he kept the secrets of Vicktors lust for human blood because he couldn’t follow his own rules. I’m assuming that’s why he didn’t immediately just drink his blood because he knows kraven can expose him too. Also, we know from the second underworld that the main reason selene’s family is killed is because her dad created the prison where William is, so it was more cover up than a massacre that Selene was led to believe. My thing with Kraven is why didn’t he just tell Selene that viktor was a hypocrite that would’ve immediately put her on his side but he too starts playing the “let’s hate the Lycans” thing even though he had a treaty with their leader. Kraven in my opinion clearly had a weird obsession with controlling Selene and taming her, that was his downfall. Viktor’s downfall was thinking that Selene would hesitate to kill him like Sonja did.

    • @samg2590
      @samg2590 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤔 maybe taking 1's "WORD" was important in those days

    • @erincoco612
      @erincoco612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You found a valid loophole

  • @8440k
    @8440k ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still can’t believe that Lucian is played by Michael Sheen.. The same guy who plays the Angel in god omens.. his range is insane!!!

  • @iewutake
    @iewutake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of my fav movies ever. Also idk if it checks out, but in the den the werewolf facing Lucian bowed his head i think, that would mean recognising someone as superior/alpha in canine language, would explain why they retreated in the woods and came when he summoned. Just my thoughts tho 🤷‍♀️

  • @patriotenfield3276
    @patriotenfield3276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Please review on the Vampires from "Abraham Lincoln Vampire hunter" both from the movie and the Novel. The Vampires here can survive in sunlight while bears the same fatal weakness as werewolves when being hit with silver weapons

    • @DracoMalfoy-ys2mo
      @DracoMalfoy-ys2mo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what I’ve been saying

    • @patriotenfield3276
      @patriotenfield3276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also the novel's far more interesting than the movie

    • @coganLollins
      @coganLollins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am actually working on a video about this right now 🤫

    • @eastbow6053
      @eastbow6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coganLollins 😱

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Abraham Lincoln was a great vampire movie weaving the mythology into American history. It was surprisingly well done and deserves a sequel and trilogy.

  • @claytontippit4661
    @claytontippit4661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lucian is awesome as a Lycan!

  • @denxylboart4403
    @denxylboart4403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I've always liked Michael Sheen as Lucian. Even at first when I thought he was a bad guy, I thought he was very mannerable, but firmly profession. I forever have that seen where he's shouting at other lycans in the subway tunnel burnt in my brain the first film and rise of the lycans are my favourites I love all of them and I was disappointed with blood wars that they killed Michael as in awakening it seemed they weren't far behind, and could have called out to catch up to him I thought Michael would have seen Selene through their daughters eyes, and stopped running before I watched blood wars I imagined the 3 of the along with David battling their way to safety I thought the movie was okay but it wasn't what I expected or thought it would be though I do love that Selene kicked ass in the movie that made me happy despite wanting the movie to have played out differently to what I wanted to be

    • @coganLollins
      @coganLollins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also always remembered that scene of lucian yelling at the lycans! And I agree about blood wars, I don’t hate it just wasn’t what I thought it would be

    • @professionallycurious7372
      @professionallycurious7372 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, idk why they killed off Michael when they could have made it that he survived since he was arguably the strongest then to where his blood did such wonders in the last movie, but I guess they did that to push the story forward.

    • @erickroll3824
      @erickroll3824 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@coganLollins I want Lucian and selene to team up

    • @VampireSexGoddess
      @VampireSexGoddess ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@coganLollins Marius is such a poser. Totally stole the name from The Vampire Chronicles.

    • @VampireSexGoddess
      @VampireSexGoddess ปีที่แล้ว

      And a very handsome furball.

  • @rag5617
    @rag5617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    if you're taking video games suggestions, i would recommend the Legacy of Kain franchise.
    Even if you didn't played the games, the cinematics are good movies on their own.

  • @ThatsWhatSheSaid75
    @ThatsWhatSheSaid75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually enjoyed Underworld Evolution the most. They focused heavily on the hybrids - which at the time was really new and interesting. The first movie and Rise of the Lycans are close seconds. Thanks for the great video!

  • @mojorisin521125
    @mojorisin521125 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an amazing video well done 👏. That trance song is incredible too during the portions I must've listened to it 6 times already.

  • @everettparker1313
    @everettparker1313 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an Incredible Masterpiece Video for My All Time Favorite Role for Michael Sheen and My Third Favorite Character In The Underworld Film Series. Michael Sheen did an Incredible Performance’s as Lucian and Aro.

  • @danielcapela1246
    @danielcapela1246 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rise of the Lycans is my favorite Underworld film. They should do another movie (or tv show) focusing on the Lycan side of the story

  • @L33tSkE3t
    @L33tSkE3t ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It sounds like he’s saying “Lasagna, that’s what started the war.”

  • @AzmanAdli
    @AzmanAdli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ONE OF THE BEST VIDEO I HAVE EVER SEEN !!!!!!

  • @myhandlehasbeenmishandled
    @myhandlehasbeenmishandled 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    wait, in the first movie Lycans were bad guys? What a hell was I on when I watched it. I never for once thought vampires were good in any scene.

  • @MultiRekrap
    @MultiRekrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I always thought that it was dope that neither Lucian or Sonja had the Corvinus gene and were capable of making a hybrid. They'd been secretly married for years, and obviously had been having sex multiple times. As they believed Vamps and Lycans weren't capable of reproducing, Lucian was clearly hitting Sonja raw😂 After enough times, the genes finally started to vibe lol.

    • @iewutake
      @iewutake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sonja was literally born of 2 vamps, this universe has vampires who didnt die to turn and lucian was born from a werewolf so hes obv a living organism, they never thought the species couldnt reproduce, they just didnt know the two species could since the rabbies in williams blood lines go after and destroy the vamp virus cells

    • @MultiRekrap
      @MultiRekrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@iewutake right, that's what I was getting at lol. They knew that separately, lycans and vampires could reproduce(hell, in the comics Marcus has a son)...but not together. Until Lucian and Sonja proved everyone wrong😊

    • @iewutake
      @iewutake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MultiRekrap yeah, my bad, by the formulation thought u lacked info 😁

    • @MultiRekrap
      @MultiRekrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@iewutake no worries!

    • @fersho450
      @fersho450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iewutake lol taking that into account Lucian was actually born from two werewolfs (they could get pregnant while still being turned which seems to be the case with his mother)

  • @TheYungpromo
    @TheYungpromo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how you noticed that hit about the original werewolves even I said to myself if they could listen to him then there attacks may not be coordinated but planned

  • @NabilAbdulrashidComedy
    @NabilAbdulrashidComedy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would argue that even in human form Lycans are as strong and as fast as vampires as we never actually see vampires overpower them in human form except for elders

    • @desmondedwards8234
      @desmondedwards8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Lucian and William is stronger than elder vampires

    • @Batgod211
      @Batgod211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@desmondedwards8234 Lucian was only stronger than Amelia he'd get beaten by post awaken Viktor and Marcus

    • @fersho450
      @fersho450 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Batgod211 Lucian could kill any Elder in a 1v1 except Marcus (in the first film they didn't have the *first lycan* thing on Lucian which makes him the only Elder of the lycans besides William)

  • @encognitusmaximus7598
    @encognitusmaximus7598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Interestingly it sounds like sex can mix vampires and lycans. Bc Victor's daughter wasn't a Corvinus and Lucian wasn't either but they still were going to have a hybrid baby. Unless theres something missing. I he being bitten by both and need to be a Corvinus by the movie sounds like having a baby the old fashion way did the same.

    • @iwanwillis1670
      @iwanwillis1670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a feeling its to do with both being pure bloods and being born as their species so I guess there would be mutation happening and tbh he's the only werewolf at the time to have the human form to really try to have sex with a vampire

    • @DracoSafarius
      @DracoSafarius ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iwanwillis1670 Yeah it's probably the purity factor. Lucian could be a pureblooded gen 1 if we assume his mother was bitten by William, and Sonja's pureblooded gen 1 thanks to Victor. Even going so far as to say Lucian's just gen 2 and Sonja's only half 1 (since I doubt her mother was bitten by Marcus) it leaves them immensely pure. Right circumstances

  • @Jodipo
    @Jodipo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Could you do a video on the vampires and werewolves from ''What We Do In The Shadows''?

    • @kadecoleman4104
      @kadecoleman4104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that a good show? What would you rate it 1 through 10? With 10 being the best obviously

    • @coganLollins
      @coganLollins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes I am going to cover this film! Heard so many great things and I’ve never seen it

    • @alphahunterd
      @alphahunterd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@coganLollins I can't wait to see it!

  • @KombatW0mbat
    @KombatW0mbat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact Lucien didn’t want the eradication of the vampires he just wanted pure peace that’s it

  • @xGATSUUGAx
    @xGATSUUGAx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greatest Movies about werewolfs and vampires ever ,

  • @HyphyJuice916
    @HyphyJuice916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I imagine Michael Sheen would enjoy Lucian way more. I imagine as an actor with roles you play, having backstory and lore would make it more enjoyable. It has more of an impact. From what my girlfriend tells me there's so much backstory and lore in the Twighlight books. It actually sounds cool. But since there's not a whole lot in the movies, I'd say Underworld has my bet for what he liked playing the leader for. Homeboy even got his own origin story.

  • @mikerryan85
    @mikerryan85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Easily my favorite character from the Underworld universe. Shame we didn’t get to see more of him. Also, that blade he uses under his trench coat is pretty badass!

  • @zionleach3001
    @zionleach3001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think it would've been cool if Lucian and Selene teamed up. Viktor killed people who were close to them. Maybe a "what if" scenario where Selene goes through a redemption arc and maybe show a more human side to the Lycans. But I can't blame humanity completely for wanting to exterminate lycans and vampires. Neither side seemed to care about humans outside of food or repopulation.

    • @kadecoleman4104
      @kadecoleman4104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well they know they obviously can’t hunt humans to extinction or anything because they’d all die so they do seem to care somewhat more than just food ya know?

    • @Kibatsume1
      @Kibatsume1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Humans never needed an excuse to exterminate, read a history book it's full of it.

    • @zionleach3001
      @zionleach3001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kibatsume1 True. But I can't imagine we'd be happy getting caught in the cross fire of a vampire and lycan war.

    • @Neoprenesiren
      @Neoprenesiren ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kibatsume1 99% of wars are fought for resources or innovation. Mostly by the ruling class. Almost all soldiers and civilians killed in combat or genocide never had a choice in the matter. The people starting those conflicts are almost always sheltered from there own decisions.
      It's best summarized as
      "In peace the youth bury their parents, in war parents march the youth into their graves."

    • @Neoprenesiren
      @Neoprenesiren ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes which is why alexander the oldest immortal and the most human one, by the end of his life is so exhausted and worn down. He's constantly keeping his own sons from consuming every human on earth and there after starving themselves.
      So much so he decides to finally let markus kill him.
      But contrary to the vampire and werewolf elders expectations alexander wasn't protecting the humans from them, he was protecting them from the humans. Which fits with his nature as a protective but misguided parent.
      If he had let the humans and vampires/werewolves fight each other things would have eventually settled into a peaceful stalemate. The lycans don't want to be slaves, the vampires would have been humbled by the humans, and the humans insatiable appetite for death would finally be reigned in by their immortal opposites.

  • @aegispisces8537
    @aegispisces8537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first video ive watched of yours and I like you, my favourite film of all time is Underworld 1! keep up the great content my guy youve earned a sub here xD

  • @sirmanni4534
    @sirmanni4534 ปีที่แล้ว

    You gotta do a video on how Raze was strong enough to fight a werewolf and live. Love this channel

  • @IMXLegedaryBard
    @IMXLegedaryBard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I honestly love the character Lucian, and because of this movie I was always obsessed with werewolves. Something about them seemed both terrifying yet marvelous, and I've always envied how the Lycans portrayed raw strength. Lucian to me was a great character, with a tragic past and great charisma. I hated seeing his character die, and I didn't like that the fourth and fifth movies portrayed Lycans as evil when we know the truth about them and the treatment of their kind. I truly wished the last two movies focused on humans vs immortals rather then the typical big evil lycan vs Selene

  • @jeffreygodinez9276
    @jeffreygodinez9276 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, Very Informative Specially On Planning Rewatching And Still Couldn't Understand, Thanx Man 🙂👌

  • @kolbyerickson9475
    @kolbyerickson9475 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don’t know if anybody noticed but he called Sonya Celine😂 I know their characters are pretty much the exact same but they are two different people

  • @Twiceborn_by_grace
    @Twiceborn_by_grace ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always thought that “lycan” was just a word that people used to sound smart when talking about werewolves to sound smart. I didn’t know they’re technically different.

  • @cleo5793
    @cleo5793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the historical background to the wars.

  • @Dre-yd2xh
    @Dre-yd2xh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    5:17 isn't he THE strongest lycan since hes the first?

    • @fersho450
      @fersho450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He technically is the only Elder lycan And can actually kill in a 1v1 Viktor (in the first movie his history wasn't fully writen so...)

    • @DracoSafarius
      @DracoSafarius ปีที่แล้ว

      Strongest due to purity, not far removed from William, and age. Add that he's actually immensely skilled and yeah as far as lycans go he's the strongest, although I think the transformed Quint would have more physical strength due to nonstop juicing.

  • @Gymjb5
    @Gymjb5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks 🙏 finally I understand the all thing and just like you my favorite movie is rise of the Lycans and Lucian 😎

  • @Sonjaslostson
    @Sonjaslostson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Honestly, it would have been great to get a movie about Lucian between the events of RoTL and the first film. I also love the meta irony of Michael Sheen and Kate Beckinsale being together at the time. Recall that Viktor turned Selene because she reminded him so much of his daughter Sonja, who Lucian had loved. It could have been a great story of Selene gradually starting to understand that everything she was led to believe was wrong the more she and Lucian met. Maybe having Lucian save Selene's life and she zips her lips about him still being about. Granted, the first film was still awesome (especially the extended unrated cut I have), but I feel like there could have been more interesting directions that could be taken. In a lot of ways, Selene's story is kind of a mirror of Lucian. Lucian fell in love with a vampire, nearly created a hybrid, only to lose his beloved AND her unborn child. Selene's whole life was devoted to the hunt, until she fell in love with a lycan and successfully created a hybrid and then killing Viktor. And I agree that Blood Wars was utter garbage and actively insulting. Marius is not Lucian and trying to MAKE HIM like Lucian only highlights how terrible he is as a leader.

    • @villekuronen6242
      @villekuronen6242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i think that Marius could have been great villain if done better and not trying to copy Lucian

  • @LegendaryMOB
    @LegendaryMOB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Unless it's an elder"
    Amelia should've gotten more sleep 🤣

  • @MyDuud
    @MyDuud 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Or we can be LYCANS!!” Best line of the franchise

  • @crystalsmith5330
    @crystalsmith5330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michael sheen loves to ham it up, he probably loves Lucian and Aro equally.
    Kate Beckinsale, although we all love her in these movies (can't deny she's hot) was typecast

  • @hunterphille1280
    @hunterphille1280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lucian was my favorite character even though I'm pretty sure his entire story was an afterthought

  • @gilbertjimenez9853
    @gilbertjimenez9853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I've always felt that Lucian's unborn hybrid child was a plot whole. Neither of them are descendants of Covinus, so a hybrid shouldn't have been possible. Marcus, Michael, and Eve were all in the bloodline; and Selene was given the blood so that makes sense. Lucian was an anomaly, so Sonja had the Corvinus gene? Using that logic, obtaining Amelia's blood should have helped in Lucian's experiments. Maybe I'm wrong though.

    • @513v35kal
      @513v35kal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could be be that the fetus was able to handle both viruses since it’s built into its dna. Assuming the Vampire and Lucan viruses infect their sex cells which they probably do

    • @stephenschneekloth1535
      @stephenschneekloth1535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      We don't know what would have happened to it had it been born, could be stillborn for all we know, she was killed before she was even showing so I would say its not a plot hole as it was never born.

    • @bradwolf07
      @bradwolf07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'd say wasted opportunity rather than a plot hole. But that's just me

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. He was a great character but underutilized and they didn't give him the character arc he deserves.

    • @iwanwillis1670
      @iwanwillis1670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm guessing its bc there both pure bloods and obvs lucian is the first werewolf to have human form amd be born a lycan to really have sex with a vampire to see if I can be mixed that way

  • @scottfree641
    @scottfree641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed the sh*t out of that series I to was blown away by Sheen's acting in it. He's and amazing actor that don't get enough credit.

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite underworld film is underworld evolution 💯💖

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You definitely should do a video on being human

  • @kirbys100
    @kirbys100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope you make a video about vampire of "John Carpenter Vampires" and "Vampires: los muertos". 🙏

  • @showmickchandramitra6966
    @showmickchandramitra6966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that may be may beMichael sheen is actually a lycan or a vampire or a hybrid of both

  • @_face773
    @_face773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lucian was Awesome!!! Favorite character behind Viktor... They need to make another movie but in between timeliness. Bring Bill Nighy back and Michael Sheen..

  • @Boo-pv4hn
    @Boo-pv4hn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being human was an amazing series! Brilliant actors. I wish they went in for so much longer then they did! The order was very short lived

  • @nikonikolov7636
    @nikonikolov7636 ปีที่แล้ว

    You deserve nothing like respect and and you own me blood .

  • @Wolvie1984
    @Wolvie1984 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be honest i loved all the Underworld movies, Blood Wars included. My favorite characters are Lucian, Selene, Marcus, Viktor, Michael and Raze respectively.

  • @creepybeastpastas2673
    @creepybeastpastas2673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my favourite guilty pleasures, Lucian is just so damn awesome. I’m currently reading through the novelisation, I have uploaded a few chapters so far on my channel if anyone is interested.

  • @Pettyb120
    @Pettyb120 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are we not going to talk about Lucian being the “HR Rep” of the Lycans 😂

  • @Jimboy12
    @Jimboy12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pls do the order , although its not a thriler /horror type of series, the werewolves are really well designed and have interesting lore

  • @Gosperella26
    @Gosperella26 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still haven't seen Blood Wars but Rise of the Lycans will always be my fave. Lucian is my number one, Selene and Sonja.

  • @tetrodotoxin9782
    @tetrodotoxin9782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That black huge guy cast says "lucian" is so cool. Watta sexy voice. 😃

  • @seraphim2525
    @seraphim2525 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Don't say "Blood Wars"..."🤣🙌🏾

  • @yassinemazouze1997
    @yassinemazouze1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is a vampire movie call true bloodthirst I think u should do it

  • @TarikKodak-fe9mr
    @TarikKodak-fe9mr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro the guy who played Lucian is very old now till today I didn't know he played Lucian 😅

  • @SoberIrishman
    @SoberIrishman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 1st 3 movies are fantastic.
    Part II is my fave bc Michael plays a large role along with Marcus.
    Only thing missing would have been a battle between Viktor and Marcus.
    😎👍

  • @Mr.Unbreakable83
    @Mr.Unbreakable83 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just saw this video but if you haven't already please do a video on being human. The US version it was one of my favorite shows back in the day.

  • @huntermoore7669
    @huntermoore7669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I never considered Lucian as a villain. When i learn his story in the first movie I was like “Damn… ok get me out of these chains… I’ll help you jusy don’t hurt Selene deal?

  • @willjr793
    @willjr793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved Lucian he had great motive for what he did. As a father I couldn’t do what victor did to his daughter

    • @kitsunefaye1661
      @kitsunefaye1661 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me either. As a mother, seeing Sonja die makes me cry. I’d be laying down the law, as in take good care of my daughter (I have a son), and my grandbaby; be good to her.

  • @Marksin866
    @Marksin866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think there is most likely a chance that Lucian is like Jason or micheal myers. He will somehow be back. Just like you learned how Lucian was still alive despite craven supposedly killing him. It makes you wonder if a Lycan could have got his body off the ship.

  • @kadecoleman4104
    @kadecoleman4104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it just me or have there not been anywhere near as many ads in any videos lately? No matter what channel I watch, there are significantly less ads during the videos? Idk why it’s like that but I’m not complaining at all 😂🤷🏻‍♂️😎

  • @lilibird2410
    @lilibird2410 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lucian wasn’t an antagonist 🥺 he was getting back at victor for taking Sonia and their unborn baby from him I’d say he’s just misunderstood 🥰🖤

  • @flameshot4647
    @flameshot4647 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that Michael pretty much became like lucain or his successor becoming what lucain tried to become and also falling in love with a vampire who was like viktors daughter just like lucain did with his real daughter and both became pregnant.

  • @mdhasan-bt9mb
    @mdhasan-bt9mb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rise of the Lycans was my first Underworld movie & which made me love this world

  • @PARKR-pv1dd
    @PARKR-pv1dd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first underworld movie is one of my all time favourite movies so good

  • @WELSHYTECH
    @WELSHYTECH ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael sheen lives around 5miles from me i live in neath and hes been seen in my hometown loads of times

  • @Vandelberger
    @Vandelberger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lucian, my main man. Probably my favorite werewolves, besides The Howling.

  • @lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385
    @lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rise of the Lycans is my favorite.
    I really want to do some videos about this franchise in the future.

  • @Graywolf335
    @Graywolf335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still think that, had Lucian lived, Markus would be easy to talk to since William was the First Werewolf. All Markus ever wanted was just freedom for William. The Lycan-Vampire War was only really ever Victor's mess.

  • @wht-rabt-obj
    @wht-rabt-obj ปีที่แล้ว

    Man! They got a kid that REALLY looks like a young Lucan. 😮

  • @KingSadim
    @KingSadim ปีที่แล้ว

    It's never explained why Victor is such a badass

  • @Marcustheseer
    @Marcustheseer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i would actualy like to see another underworld movie about lucian after victor is gone from that hold.

  • @renshifter3804
    @renshifter3804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michael Sheen also played an angel in good omens