Gwen's Big Speech to Her Dad | Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (Hailee Steinfeld, Shea Whigham)
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- Gwen (Hailee Steinfeld) returns home and explains to her dad why she kept her alter ego a secret. George (Shea Whigham) decides to quit the police force and they reconcile. He gives Gwen a dimension watch from Hobie.
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After reuniting with Gwen Stacy, Brooklyn's full-time, friendly neighborhood Spider-Man is catapulted across the Multiverse, where he encounters a team of Spider-People charged with protecting its very existence. However, when the heroes clash on how to handle a new threat, Miles finds himself pitted against the other Spiders. He must soon redefine what it means to be a hero so he can save the people he loves most.
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I think Gwen's father quiting was the final proof that Gwen needed to understand that Canon Events aren't what they seem.
Miguel was wrong.
If you ask me so-called canon events are just stuff that happens to reoccur often. OR Miguel has only seen those realities because the multiverse is infinite, therefore could he have really seen them all?
I think the universes destroy because of spot 😯
@@themasterofcommentsandrese4351I honestly hope so
@@themasterofcommentsandrese4351 not actually, a cop captain would die eventually, just not his dad. Captain Stacy was never Peter's dad.
“The guy who left it was a real price of work.” Why do I get the feeling Hobie really chewed him out before he gave the watch.
Because Captain Stacy is a by the book cop and Hobbie is a rebel with Zero respect for authority. Plus for what Gwen was put through because of her dad, Hobbie wouldn’t let that slide
“Hobbie wouldn’t let that slide” sure hope not
Idk I think y’all are over thinking this shit lmao. I think it’s just the art style. It could be Punk’s personality too, but I honestly think it’s just him being all England Punk Rock art/vibe
@@TruthSeeker23099 knowing Hobbie, he didn't.
@@maxm2656... no? piece of work just means irritating, a lot to deal with...that's the literal meaning of the word. he doesn't mean piece of work like art lol
When it finally hits her dad. He almost killed the greatest thing in this world, and after that, he knew he couldn't be captain anymore.
The greatest thing in HIS world as well
So sad to realize that Gwen joined the Spider Society, wanted Jess to be her mother-like figure and got betrayed in the end.
I found this Jess kind of unlikable the more the movie went on. Where's the REAL Jessica Drew?
@@jwroot her character feels so predictable It feels like she’s just there to support Miguel and In the second movie she’s bound to have a “change of heart” and team up with Gwen
What I don’t understand is why she chose to participate WHEN SHE WAS PREGNANT!!! Gwen may have dodged a bullet there.
@@009.51I thought I was the only one who hated Jess.
It also really bugs me because Jess insisted to Miguel that "we should let her come, she's all alone, we need her help" and then all we saw afterwards was her being unreasonably harsh on this literal child who needed some compassion and understanding after what happened to her.
I really wanna know what was the conversation between Hobie and Gwen's dad. Just imagine the dad, who was totally depressed, hadn't seen his daughter in half a year, and then this magazine cutout guy pops out of nowhere and starts to talk with him about Gwen. He probably freaked the hell out.
Poor George Stacy, confused how this guy knows his daughter, wondering where she is, wondering what the hell kind of English he's speaking, somehow also being offended because he's PRETTY sure the guy called him a fascist but he talks so damn fast...
I think it'd defiantly be something he wouldn't forgetsomethig
@@Montesama314LOLL😂
@@Montesama314 'pretty sure the guy called him a fascist' omg help
I don’t know. Gwen’s dad doesn’t live in our world. Spider-Man and meta humans are part of his everyday life, part of his universe. I don’t think he’d be that shocked. Confused at most I’d say
It’s a somewhat small detail but I love how the background color reflects the emotional tension between the two and how it turns white once they hug
bro, I wouldn't say that it's a small detail. It's one of the main tools of storytelling in this movie!
Its not a small detail it's the whole concept of Gwen's world, the colours change with the emotions
i actually think is not even a metaphorical detail, that's just part of her universe; people's thoughts and feelings have an optical effect on the environment around them.
@@jamesmacleod867 I really like how they did that
It’s not just the background that changes, but Gwen and her dad’s love is only fully realized when they’re in their ‘real’ colors.
Hobbie gave her dad that watch, knowing full well that these two will talk to each other and make up. Hobbie is too damn smart.
Nah, there are been rumors that he is the main antagonist of the series and will gonna do a lot , a lot of things in triquel
@baronfonparo3876 what motive does Hobbie have that would make him an antagonist?
@@spooku5495 He gave that thing to gwen, in fact pulling the strings. From his backgrounds we see that he is a revolutionary
Cap. Stacy is right on one thing parenting is a big ass mystery
That's true, it's still a mystery to me how my parents raised my dumbass 😂
@@Chad-bc9vi😂😂
As a father myself I’m still figuring it out
I'm so glad that the writers didn't blame Gwen for running away from him and didn't make her look like she was overreacting because that's usually how parent vs child conflicts are written. A parent is abusive and a child is blamed for hating them. But he had to apologize. I hate him for what he did to her. I can't believe that so many people blame her for so much stuff in this movie when she was just used by three adults - Miguel, George and Jessica. Not a single one of those adults she depended on asked how she's feeling or what she wants.
i just cant believe she catches all the flack meanwhile peter's normally given a free pass by the audience. gwen was under duress the majority of the film from adults she looked up to (jessica and miguel-specifically pushing that she couldnt go see or reveal the truth to miles), had every reason to believe that revealing the truth or going to see miles wouldve done nothing but hurt miles AND if she broke any of those oaths then she wouldve been forced back to her home dimension, where her father and her were on the outs (because he straight-up almost killed her) - which would have resulted in her having to bear witness to her father's death. in spite of all this, she still goes out of her way to protect miles and (in the finale) clearly is willing to put it all on the line to protect him.
peter, meanwhile, whilst probably being pressured-similarly to gwen had a lot less on his plate and was actually in a very stable place in his life (for once), compounded by the fact that he's clearly a lot less intimidated by miguel than gwen is. gwen's on high-alert all throughout her interactions w miguel and is obviously-wary of him, meanwhile peter treats him like a joke most of the time and seems far more relaxed by comparison.
not to shit on peter - i love peter - i just cannot fathom why gwen's the one catching the most heat for it. actually, it's obvious why she catches the most flack, but if anyone were to state the obvious reason theyd be immediately torn to shreds
@@zaddyfaye6880 And most people say that she should've helped Miles which would get her arrested by her father when Miguel kicks her out. She is a child who would be thrown in jail for first degree murder, she would be 30-40 when she gets out and everyone in her dimension would know she is Spider-Woman and think she's a murderer. Her whole life ruined. And what sucks is that she turned against Miles to avoid this and Miguel and Jessica kicked her out anyway. And the internet is acting like Gwen is the villain of the movie. These two were the worst.
I don't quite see it as that black and white. He wasn't abusive, he was a cop doing his job as he saw it. She wasn't wrong, morally, she was using her abilities to help people the best way she could. Nuance is tough to see, especially in the heat of the moment, when the one that has technically been subverting the law turns out to be your daughter. He didn't know what to do, so he went to the "book" and his training. I wouldn't say it was the right call, but I can't say it was wrong either.
@@EdwardHarley I didn't say that he was abusive but not believing your own child and thinking that she would kill her own best friend and pointing a gun at her is insane.
@@mimilook4347 totally agree
Gwen is the future. When i look at her, i see hope, and it's beautiful.
do you think miles and gwen end up together? i'm worried gwen dies saving miles' dad in the next movie.
@@AD-oy8nm Nah. She's got her own spinoff after BTSV. Plus, it'd betray the whole message of breaking the canon.
When you show your parent what skills and responsibilities you have, and they fully accept that
The fact that Gwen's father didn't become the 'Captain Stacey' of her universe means the Canon Event won't happen, but her world also won't collapse. And all because he saw his daughter was Spider-Woman, and decided not to not only lose himself but his daughter as well.
Imagine that, then. Gwen won't have to lose her father like she did Peter meaning that every Spiderverse Spider-Man can have different canon events, let alone change them! Sure the others like Peni (because her canon event happened the second she got back to her universe) wasn't able to stop it, but that just means that O'Hara is just manipulating their lives. Beyond the Spiderverse is gonna be insane.
The whole canon event concept is wrong. Miguel is wrong.
@@westrim Or maybe it will be Miles's father who will be Gwen's cannon event.
@@Palpad100
That makes absolutely zero sense
@@Palpad100 a police captain 'close' to the spider-person
why is miles' dad close to her 😭
@@namishjain9238 Depends on what happens in the next movie.
2:51 whoa. Plot twist. Miguel o hara was wrong about the canon events.
Is that meant to he sarcasm? Because right from the word go, his logic about canon events felt way off to me.
@@StripesChaosGremlini honestly believed him up until this point, but i thought that universes that violated canon events could be saved in easier methods than what was being described. knowing that canon events aren’t even set in stone, i think that makes more sense over all, but i was with miguel for a bit lol
Read the Spider universe comic arc this is all based off of. Miguel has thought he knew the real truth behind things but never had a clue to start with. Also makes the Madame Web character so much more important.
That doesn’t mean some other captain will come along Gwen will fail to save. Also the movie doesn’t HAVE to have the logic of comics, it can just use it for inspiration. (I haven’t read the comics don’t come at me I’m just going off the logic of the film)
But it does mean that Miguel's logic on cannon events is flawed. Remember that Gwen herself believed both her and Miles dads were doomed to die for the sake of Miguel's little theory. No outcome is going to prove Miguel right execpt for Gwen's world collapsing. If a different captain dies, then that means that Miles dad can also be saved if her dad still somehow dies due to just trying to help, then that could mean it doesn't have to he a police captain thst dies. And there are a bunch of other permutations that could be considered. Miguel seems convinced that Miles is the somehow the focal point for worlds collapse because the spider that bit him wasn't from his dimension. Miles had nothing to do with the spider appearing in his world. He just got bitten. He blames Miles for both the death of his Peter's death, which again spider powers or not, he was again just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Peter would have tried to save him regardless and would probably have ended up with them both dead. Miguel's is ignoring the massive spotted elephant in the room because it doesn't fit his theory, and I would argue his first experience with breaking cannon is also flawed.
Why does every frame in this scene look like it is a beautiful painting? Man THIS is the movie with the greatest animation team ever. Even way greater than Mappa’s.
2026. I’m rooting for your next sequel.
ever heard about kyoto animation?
the one is much better than mappa
Gwen’s story in this film absolutely wrecked me and I can’t wait to see how Miles fairs in his section of the universe
I imagine being a parent to a superhero is a pain in the ass… not knowing one day they will be killed because it’s inevitable.
Because you’ll always see your children as children.
Gwen has been through a lot of pain I could relate, because she lost a lot, including her best friend miles, this scene is so beautiful that it makes me cry every single day that I watch it. This is the most touching scene from Spider-Man across the spider verse and it does hit me at the heart strings. ❤
The pain by being away from her father and not being able to return home is heart breaking. But I think the worst pain is not being honest and suppressing her true feelings for miles based off Gwen Stacy and Spider-Man canon event.
But at the end of the day. I’m glad that Gwen and her father reconciled. Because it proves that miles is right, that u can do both and that miles taught Gwen that it’s all possible that they can have a relationship.
If I know Marvel at all her saying, "I'll be right back. Promise." is such a death flag.
I love how at the start the colours of the background and characters constantly change, as if they still can’t understand.
Once Gwen’s dad reveals he quit as police captain, the colours change to what we usually see, except for the background which becomes white.
Feels like nothing else in the room matters!
Every dimension had its own comic art style and I totally loved it. They even had the live action versions of Spiderman and it made absolute sense.
I loved the scenes in her universe. I would have watched a whole movie about her story if Sony wanted to make it.
The watercolor nature of Gwen's universe helped convey that. The colors and patterns all throughout the scene help to establish the tone, the emotions, and the motives portrayed. As Gwen and her dad talk, the colors behind them start off way different. Toward the end, the colors and patterns start to match.
I understand how much gwen cares about her dad and how much she loves him
I hope you've learned your lesson, Captain.
pointing a gun at your own daughter with your finger on the trigger is crazy.
It's like she said. He does his duty as a cop, carrying that gun and wearing that badge because otherwise someone who shouldn't will.
@@professorkyuu1775didn't he already say he shouldn't? I mean if you're willing to put your "duty" over not pointing a f*cking gun at your child then you shouldn't have that job
@@sunstone_xd8977and not even willing…to hear her side smh
It was an incredibly stressful situation. He probably couldn't think straight. He clearly regrets it in this scene, honestly he looked like he did. He realised he'd lose his daughter if he didn't accept who she really was
@@sunstone_xd8977 nope duty first. There have been real life moments when cops have had to arrest their own kids for breaking the law. No one is an exception. Captain Stacy did what he was supposed to even tho it was eating him up .Gwen is a vigilante and as much as I live spider man and all other heroes thats what they are at the end of the day if they kill someone it's murder. Cause they don't have a badge. They weren't ordained by anyone or given authority to do what they do
Technically the best thing he's ever done is her mom. Now, the best thing he's ever made is Gwen
I didn’t wanna say it but I’m glad someone else did😂
" you wanna go easy on the penguin" for me still has to be one of the greatest lines and the best proof that whoever wrote this actually cares about the source material because of the deeper meaning it has to those who know what it means. Its a beautiful, subtle allusion from a father to his daughter that she is treating herself too harshly.
This scene handily proves just how bogus the entire "live action > animation" argument is. It would impossible to convey the emotions that changing colours and line work of this scene convey in a medium that prioritizes "realism" over all else.
What the hell are you saying? They could replicate this framing and coloration with a single rgb flood light, if you really need to have glitchy crap behind her for some reason then paintbrush it in.
Nothing done in this scene couldn’t be done in live action.
I’m not saying either is better necessarily but this scene is nothing groundbreaking.
@@alexandergreene461Life action usually looks worse and has more limitations.
This scene right here is one of my second favorites in the movie and among my third favorite scenes in the Spider-Verse franchise thus far. As much as I got love for my man Miles, I also love how very complex and so raw Gwen is and the emotional journey she's going through. Any of us can relate
Which are your firsts?
The colors changing during the argument. To show their emotions were just. *Chefs kiss*
Gwen’s dimension looks like such a headache to live with.
Hobie's:
this is the one scene that made me break down in (silent as possible) tears in the theatre
It’s sad that Gwen felt she needed to distance herself from her father when she found out he would die when he became captain, and yet amazing when she found out he chose not to be captain and wouldn’t die. That is some great writing about the pain of knowing your own “fate”
2:15, her dad's sigh there is obviously when he decided to quit. I know it's not exactly halfway through the speech like he said, but keep in mind, this happened when she said "I can do all these things but I can't help the people I love the most". George being a cop while his daughter is the Spider Woman is the same thing here. He can do many things as a cop, but would be unable to help his daughter be Spider Woman AND be a cop
if her father say he quit being captain, does that mean it breaks the Canon
Yes it did at this point
😮
How does it break the canon? Another police captain will just take his place
Here’s how I picture it, George quitting the police force partially changes events in Gwen’s dimension. However nothing crazy will happen at all, someone else will get sworn in to become captain. The important thing is the fact that he doesn’t have to die, some stranger on the police force will (whoever becomes captain) George gets to live, Gwen still has her father and one main plot point of Beyond The Spider-Verse could be getting Miles’ dad to quit the police force in his dimension.
@@Demaad Yes but Gwen isn’t related to another captain so it does break the canon.
I feel a little bad for Gwen's father. He spent months not knowing if he would ever see his daughter again.
I watched the first movie in theaters with my dad and my sibling. I watched this movie with them too in theaters. This scene and the other scene in the beginning between Gwen and Cap. Stacy hits close to home for me with my dad. Long story short: relationship has been rocky with my dad the last couple of years, but when Gwen hugged her dad, the way it was made and looked was how a hug from a father felt when you're having a tough time and I was silently crying next to my dad cause he was there for me during mine. I love this movie and the pervious one. I'm excited to see the third film too once it hits theaters with my dad and my sibling. Can't wait to see what's in store for the finale 🤩❤
Spider, Gwen is beautiful and motivating
One of the reasons of why this movie should’ve won an Oscar over the Boy and the Heron and it’s insane how it didn’t
I mean, they’re both goated movies let’s be honest. If Spiderverse was gonna lose, at least it lost to Miyazaki. Dude is pretty damn good.
@@jsmaster4779Honestly yeah, they did a fantastic effort but Miyazaki movies are such a powerhouse juggernaut that it’s not even upsetting that Spiderverse lost
@@jsmaster4779 so you agree that Toy Story 4 also deserved to win?
If it hadn't been Miyazaki's final film, I think ATSV would have won. There's still part 3 for awards, we saw how well Return of the King was rewarded for wrapping up the trilogy.
@@mxg75 yet why does every Toy Story movie for and only example has to win an Award?
Miles: I need a watch to be part of the team.
Hobie: Make your own watch!
As a father of a daughter this hits me in the feels every damn time. The you're the best thing I ever done is so damn relatable.
I would love to see Daniella Pineda as a live-action Spider-Gwen
I'm planning on directing a Spider-Gwen movie
@@awesomegirl5190 ok
Dove Cameron voiced Gwen. Maybe she can portray a live Gwen.
@@JWheel5 is hailee steinfeld joke on you?
chewed him out before he it does hit me at the heart strings. is a big ass mystery and it's beautiful.
Are you high?
The thing is, they broke canon without bad consequences yes. But captain Stacy knew about Gwen only because of Vulture and he was an anomaly !
So I think canon events can’t be broken without outside influences intended or otherwise
the art and visual style is amazing
Do you guys think that hobbies came into her demension and ended up talking with him cause I’m still wondering after months 🤔😭
gwen's dad has that light skin stare
the use of color in gwens universe is my favorite part about this movie.
Gwen's Dad quitting shows that you can prevent a Canon Event from ever happening if you nip it early. Of course, that's assuming reality doesn't come up with a fix. A work around.
"you the best thing i ever done!" miss u dad😢
Doesn’t her dad look like Mr Incredible?
Must be a redesign.
Gwen is cute
I really think that instead of the canon events, it's the fact that the different universe spidermans all traveling around the dimensions is what's really causing the disturbances.
This is my favorite moment in the movie. The way the whole ‘set’ turns white to reflect her emotions, gets me every time
Emotional 😭😭😭😭
It’s sad. Gwen knows that her dad is destined to be killed because of a canon event.
Which is stupid?
It's not stupid if you were willing to sacrifice everyone in your universe just to save one person, I mean it's understandable.
@@dreamwalker2865 What if the canon events aren’t real?
The whole point of this scene is that canon events are a bunch of baloney. George Stacy's "canon" is to become captain and die in a battle with a Spiderman villain. But he quits here, and the universe doesn't start collapsing around them.
I mean, you saw what happened in Pavitrs' universe, and if I am wrong and the canons are not real, then what is the point of adding stakes to the movie? Cause when the stakes are this high, we have to do what is right.
Does anybody else notice that everything changed at 03:02? This means that they have changed the other universes in a way that will be explained later
Wow, they're both so alike
Everything changes. It’s the things that can be prevented which aren’t always clear early on, or how to make change for the better. That always requires courage to try something new.
I really love the change as soon as she realizes her dad won't be captain, for most of the movie you had the overarching plot with her dad hunting Gwen after Peter's death and finding out his daughter was the Spiderwoman, but also she has to wall herself off from feeling anything because presumably when she joined the Spider Society she found out her dad would die. And of course walling herself off and cutting off any emotion towards her dad is easier than facing her emotions over the fact that her dad is going to die when he becomes captain as we see in the beginning of the video where she's very cold but also that emotion creeps in that she should at least let her dad know what she thinks of him in case this is the last time they see each other. She's not just running from the Peter conflict with her dad, she's running from the inevitability of his death and once it hits her he won't die because he won't be captain, that defensive wall gets torn down and one of the first thing she does is hug him. You can even see this in the moments following where the entire world brightens up like it's emulating Gwen's emotion, her world lighting up realizing he won't die.
I love the writing in this scene and the animation is beautiful but if I'm being honest the colours are very distracting for me. I know colours have their own meaning but this feels over the top for me
Theres by the book. Then there is following evil people lawfully. I get why he sticks to his beliefs and morals. Its a drive to make this world better even at the cost of yourself.
But you gotta draw that line between whats legal and what is right
And that’s why he quit, partially
God I love this. Having read a bit of spidergwen comics they did this moment so right.
Eh, the penguin deserved it, he knows what he did.
Random fun fact, there's a universe in which Gwen is a penguin and also Spider-Woman.
So when she shot the penguin with her web and her father told her "you wanna go easy on the penguin?" the writers are telling her she should go easy with herself.
Apologize on grammar, english isn't my first language.
“I always taught you to do it by the book.”
Buddy, there is no real rule book for the job she's in..😂
I can hear hi from arcane 😢
I don't think Gwen redemption will fulfil her character growth before she apologized to Miles for everything.
Personally, I think the way that canon events work is that they still play out, but they don't have to be tied to specific people. So while gwen's dad is in the clear, there will still be a captain that will die in that universe.
0:30
And now he can crush literally any pro athlete at any sport
This doesn't mean that a police captain close to her isn't going to die, it just means that it isn't going to be specifically her Dad. So no this doesn't disprove Canon.
Imagine To In Deviantart With The Animation Style Like To Spiderverse Is Mad Max and Star Trek
I have to wonder if those colors and design of Gwen's Universe actually like that, or if that's just a change for us the viewers to know that it's a different universe.
1:16 gwen supposedly " looking " at her dad, 1 second later she calls him skinny.... eh? EH?
I wonder if there's a fanfiction about Hobie saying a bunch of stuff to Gwen's dad. Someone out there better be REALLY good at the English equivalent of AAVE.
random thought but wouldnt miles losing his uncle be his canon event and not his dad anyways?
Well his uncle dying was one Canon event. Another Canon event common to most spider people is a police captain close to that spider person dying. Which in Miles's case would be his dad.
I hope beyond the spider-verse realases in April 2025
Same 🤞🤞
What is the name of the soundtrack?
Gwen’s dad is so…😩
Hercules???
Unpopular opinion: I love the art styles in this movie to death, but sometimes it gets a little *much* . Take this sequence for example: Gwen and her dad are having this big reconciliation, and every other screen, the background art style is different. I want to enjoy the emotional impact of the moment but I keep getting distracted every time the art style changes.
That's because it's watercolors which emphasize vibrance to communicate story threads, thoughts and emotions.
Apparently this is not a very unpopular opinion because I’ve seen quite a few comments saying this
While the scene is touching and all, my OCD is hating how they did the art style here. Jumping through so many as the emotions change, but it's just confusing and weird. They need to focus on keeping it a singular color scheme and transition when the time is right.
The guy at my theater had daddy issues cause he let his phone ring while this scene played.
Oh god!!!…,
her dad looks like miles father but if he was white
Which kinda makes sense ig since they're both cops (or at least one still is)
If miles’s dad quit maybe he won’t dies
I'm going to get a fair bit of flack for this, but the whole deal with the movie's backgrounds in scenes like this was a drawback for me. I can get that thus was done to help convey emotion or possibly put more focus on the characters, but it was also a bit distracting to me.
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1:12
1:17
i was right here
I kove hiw MJ just say to Peter B like you cant expact frim our daughter to be you
Canon events are fake Yes, many spider men lose a captain and an uncle. but that's because they fail to save them, not because they choose not to save them. Miguel is in the wrong.
Is it just me or why does Captain Stacy remind me of Mr. Incredible?
The aaaarrrrtttttt
Miles'ın babası polislik'ten istifa ederse ölmez mi yani ?
What’s up with that thumbnail?
What's wrong with it? She's hugging her dad
What a daddy's girl. ;)
the queer-coding in this is fuckin DEEP
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING
the blue pink and white right when she says "They can only know half of who I really am" fuckin gets me right in the feels, I'm reading it as a trans allegory for sure
youtubes 1080p bitrate/compression has gotta be some of the worst lookin shit in the world😭😭😭
Her dad did the right thing resigning from being a captain. He didn’t want to arrest his own daughter especially since she’s a superhero protecting the town. He even tried to after seeing Peter’s body and he didn’t even know what actually happened. About how Peter had been that lizard monster. Miscommunications can happen when you don’t pay attention to your kids.
Njia
dad i will race mix now! you cannot stop me! yte jenocyde is beautiful and natural!
I like the water colored style, but the constant change is distracting and annoying.
and you're illegal
Now some random other guy is gonna die instead.🥳