The Most Comfortable Electric Skateboard - Propel Endeavor Pro/S
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The Propel Endeavor is a truly unique line of electric skateboards that's more off-road capable than the vast majority of all-terrain boards. But at what cost? In this review I cover both the Endeavor Pro and Endeavor S. Get it at dkwan.com/propel/ and use my referral discount code: DKWAN.
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📖 TABLE OF CONTENTS
00:00 Intro
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01:46 Propel Endeavor's independent suspension
05:45 Propel Endeavor's long range
10:22 Propel Endeavor's portability
14:57 Should you get the Propel Endeavor?
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It’s good to be back! If you didn’t know, I broke my ankle about a month ago from longboarding: instagram.com/reel/CWfT5dNpSB-/
The footage for this Propel video were shot before the accident. I’m nowhere near back to skating yet but I will continue to make review videos with Max’s help!
get well soon....
Glad youre back and healing up Daniel and thanks for that awesome review. We will take some excellent feedback from this one for sure. Looking forward to discussing it with the team tonight.
And perhaps I should stay in my lane and watch my words, its the most comfortable board I'VE ever ridden,lol Im 54 though, I need the suspension more than most,lol
Im glad we could provide something a little different for you guys to play with. I know you ride so many boards in a year that you dont get to ride many multiple times but the more you ride these the better they get. There is a 50-100 mile break in period in which the steering softens more but we are aware its still not enough and have solutions coming soon.
Thanks again for being so thorough and giving the riders a great idea of what to expect. Ride hard, ride safe, RIDE PROPEL!
Oh, I have since made the turning adjustments video. I did NOT cover rear vs front differences and how to get the sides as balanced as possible. I will make sure to bring those points into a future PVG show for sure. This is just the input I need to know which videos to make. We basically watch for the hot topics on the FB page and address issues with the videos needed but we are open to any and all suggestions!
Yes heal up buddy
Sorry to hear Daniel! I hope you have a swift recovery dude.
I have a quick question regarding your editing and filming, I can see you're using ain insta360, do you edit the footage inside adobe premier pro using the insta 360 addon, or frame the shot using the insta360 app first then export that into a video editor? I am an avid eskater whos recently purchased the insta360 and I can't figure out the simplest way to bridge this gap between shooting film and the final product. As always keep up the great high quality work and thank you for steering me towards buying a Meepo Hurricane, amazing board which I highly reccommend!
Been skating for a good part of my life. Got into longboarding pretty hard about 5 years ago. Got an E-board and I cant tell how much fun this is. I am now ready to do a serious upgrade since I need more spped and more distance. At 52 I have never had more fun than E-boarding.
56 here, been riding since the early 70s, I ride an e-longboard ( Meepo Hurricane) - Fun City man! 👍
56 here. Tynee Explorer. Pneumatic tires are game changers! ❤eSK8!
Also discovered eboarding 2 years ago in my 50s and I feel like a teen again.
47 here. I did not skateboard as a kid (other than playing around); I was more into roller skating, though I loved watching the skate videos. I tried my cousin's eboard a few years ago (an eGlide at the time, with the cord attached!) and, after a few rides and a few more F-bombs, I was hooked. I ordered a Backfire Zealot, have had a few spills, but more so I have had immense fun! Cloudwheels make a big difference, lol. I would love a board with pneumatics in the future, but my little Zealot is great! I'm lighter than the guys (I'm a girl) in my group, so depending on how fast (and hilly) we go, I can get a decent range on one charge. I love it so much.
Great to see an “older” crowd watching these reviews and riding. Got my first board (WowGo AT2) 2 years ago at age 53. Just sold it a couple days ago and about to order a new board.
I've been waiting ever sence this board was released to watch your video to see if it truly is a good board, I always watch your videos before I buy a board thanks for the good work keep it up!
Utterly beautiful and informative as always.
Awesome + thorough review as always. Thanks dkwan!!
cheers Daniel, happy new year best 2023
Good to see you back man. Take care 🙏🏻
Thank you for getting me back into eBoards. I’ve been using a Boosted Mini X to skate 10 miles, both to and from work every day for the past two years, plus a year of much lighter riding. It finally pooped out on me. Cuz of your overview on the Tynee Ultra, I ended up buying it and now I am actually excited to ride everyday instead of just having to get to work! Thank you so much!
At this point, anyone who rides an Evolve, doesn't watch Daniel's channel...or they find this channel after they buy an Evolve -> me :)
Fantastic review and I agree as I have the Pro 2.
Great review as always.
The reason why most skateboards don't use a latching on/off button like that is because if the button fails (mechanically, or wire failure), your board can suddenly turn off while riding! That's why momentary buttons that require you to hold it for a few seconds to turn off are safer.
Great review! :D
well. if the button fails and it behave like pressed, it would still turn off suddenly..just 2 sec later
Loving this channel
Great premium powerful review!
i've already hit the like button on the cool intro bro
I’ve been waiting for you to review this board for the longest. Excellent review and straightforward. I own one already and love it and accepted the cons that come with it. To me it’s worth it. Thanks for this.
What are the cons?
Hei much how much
Wow, didn’t know about this and am very glad I clicked the video. considering a onsra black carve 3 but think this is certainly worth consideration.
Really looking forward to you being able to review one of the Lacroix boards and the flux motion board. I trust your judgement and would love your opinion on these boards (certainly in comparison with this Endeavour board). Great video once again! Thanks
finally!!! get well soon man
Amazing shot at 6:20 xD
Great to hear your opinions, I know you set up the turning radius adjustment, but not the suspension, how was the stability at top speed with that set up?
Get well soon Daniel!!!
Thank you
Great review! Do a review on one of Trampa's Mountainboards next!
Looking forward to more tests of higher end all terrain boards like propel x4s, Bajaboard, Kaly and others!
In the meantime, I saw you broke your ankle so have some rest!
merci bro
Daaamn that’s some premium power 💥
D KWAN! now i can go to bed feeling content.
Great review and awesome to see another video. I must admit that it looks like it was not an easy turning board. Looked like some effort was definitely put in to get it turning. The BajaBoard S2 Atrax turns really easily. Would be great to see the 2 of them together for comparison.
The X4s is the board that would compare to the Atrax. This is a different class (AT vs offroad)
I've owned the Endeavor S for 6 months now. Before, I owned a Meepo V3 and an Exway Flex Riot, so switching to tube tires, an actual suspension setup was a very welcome change for me considering when I go home to visit family, downtown has a lot of brick roads and uneven paving that has now become a breeze. It's my favorite board by a *long* shot. It does have a few shortcomings, noticeably how occasionally there's a delay in response for acceleration, and it is very difficult to turn right for some reason (There are adjusters on them, but they haven't done a lot for me). But all in all, it's a massive improvement. Quite a bit to lug around, but considering I can effortlessly cut corners into grass patches, gravel patches, and even dirt roads full of roots and construction track ridges that would otherwise destroy my older boards in a few miles, this is an investment I hope that will last me thousands of miles. I am a little disappointed in the battery range, but the charger included already delivers a generous chunk of power to get me up and going again (Not fast charger on the Flex fast, but still very quick regardless). I would NOT recommend this board for a new rider personally, but for someone who has experience with electric skateboards or even just handling personal EV's in general, it's a very noteworthy choice
Thanks for sharing your experience! What real-world-range do you get with your Endeavor S?
@@VisionlineFilms Averaging around 10-12 miles depending on conditions (I'm around 165-170 lbs, for reference)
@@zeph_os oh wow, thats far from the 28 miles they state on the website for your weight :/
Wow so nice thank you for😮😮😊
Dangggg that premium power!
Great review. Propel Endeavor's new bushings solve the sharper turning problems. Pretty amazing, I put one of the white bushings on the front and a grey in the back (I weigh between 85-90kg), it can turn and carve really well. I may put another white bushing in the back and see how much more I can get out of it. I haven't even adjusted the turning force yet, still lots of tinkering to do but no complaints, it powers through just about everything. Cheers
how much range do you get ? i have the same weight and i'm interested in that board :)
Premium power indeed! I was dumb enough to ride 50km/h w the Atlas and cloudwheels, hit a stone and here Ilay in bed with a broken neck.
Offroad or not, tiamatic wheels and suspensions are worth considering, for comfort AND SAFETY!
Ride safe friends, and thanks for the review Daniel
Realistically, going more than 30mph standing on a plank with wheels is really asking for it sooner or later. I've ridden for years, hit a sandy/gravel spot on a turn 2 weeks ago, slid out, hit hard, damn near cracked some ribs, road rash, helmet saved my noggin but it took more than a minute to get back up, that knocked the stuffing out of my ass! Gotta be careful, going faster than you can run with little protection can be a formula for pain and injury.
At first I was more concerned with speed, quickly realized it had more than enough speed, what I want now is distance/battery time. The MH is supposed to get up to 37 miles on a charge, I get around 25-27 miles on a charge - I want a board that will go 40-50 miles on a charge, or have replaceable 25-30 mile batteries to switch out. I know battery technology has come a long way, just wishing for a board I could ride and not worry so much about running out of juice ( 4-5 miles from my truck, carrying/ dragging this 34lb monster all the way back - ugh!!! 😕 ).
i love how the alt. travel tech is getting better
Review the Tynee off road!!
Motor Making Liked !😀😀🙏
Premium Power from D.Kwan!!
That board has some premium power!
do you plan on reviewing the acedeck ares x1?
Agree with the review (though I have the S) - turning radius is a pain, but otherwise its good. Coms with the company have been great and speedy. I'm sure the VESC is better but the S controller is good enough for me as a casual rider - I built my own eboard some 10 years ago before they were 'mainstream' and its better than the controllers I had then so... good enough for me haha. Might be adding some basic foot grips though, similar to those found on a freeboard.
What's a board you'd recommend for city use with pot holes here and there, good range, but still portable for nyc subway stairs. These all terrains near 40lbs just seem ridiculous. My lycaon swift w ghost wheels weight wise and pot hole wise have been pretty alright, but it's the range that could be improved upon. I was looking at hurricane or something similar for a hot minute.
Do you do all sorts or just long bord's or do you do what's only out hover drones and E- bike's and whatever is only out.I hope so 🙏🍀✌️
Great video again Kwan! Glad to see you 'back at work'. Amazing board, but this is really more off-road terrain (see what I did there :)). But amazing board! Hope the recovery is going well amigo. You'll have more footage to show? Or gonna let someone else ride while you edit?
Max will do the riding going forward. I’ll continue to edit and do the talking.
@@DanielKwan that's almost the same 🤣👌🙌. Give him a full face and be the director and will be a 100% Kwan production 😎🤣👌
I think I’ve gotten used to DIY too much, had the opportunity to try one of these boards at a group ride recently and the acceleration and braking felt so weak on out of the box settings. Glad it’s vesc based for the adjustments but the battery’s output is quite low anyway.
great video wow
definitely want the bored also power station
🤪👍... You made me want to buy 1.
Those machine is a monster! Man I wish i could afford to replace my broken ownboard. Really jeolous you could get this board in a whim, even get others free.. I wish i could ride again.. 🥺🥺
Great vid. I just finished my review of the power train of the S. Love the look of the board...grade of A for design. The power train of the S gets a C minus though. I want to explore putting a bigger battery pack in the S as I am only getting 12 miles per charge and the board bogs down in grassy areas. On your Pro, do you have the issue with the hex key not being able to fit properly in the turning force bolts?
I believe the Pro and S has so much potential, but the S needs some serious boosted power.
Looking forward to your next vid!!
Good things coming ;)
12 miles per charge on the S? Something is very wrong with your board. You should be getting double that easily.
How easy is it to repair, and how long do the components (especially the battery) last?
Man this thing look gooood!! Also, how fares the leg?
Slowly recovering
Premium Power I want one of these. One of the only expensive boards I would actually consider.
Could u do a review on the Ecomobl et2
I’ve had the Pro now few 3 months. I still haven’t run the battery down. Highly recommended!! Great review Daniel!
Hi I want to buy one do you know if its IP67 highest waterproof rating?
Also how does it handle riding on a boardwalk with bikers n pedestrians can you avert them easy or is it difficult to navigate in tight situations? Thanks
@@highestvirtue1892 Hey so I don’t know the specs as they haven’t listed them but I feel comfortable with light water but I wouldn’t go all out mudding with it either. The turning radius isn’t that great out if the box. But it would do in fairly tight situations. They have turn restriction plates that can be ground or filed to get it better. Propel won’t recommend this but I think it’s a must and it carves so much better. Tighten the springs down at least half a turn when you do this. It’s a carve machine now. Great acceleration and breaking. You’ll hardly ever be at top speed anyway cause it’s deadly scary but nice to know it’s there.
Battery is amazing. I’ve went 21 miles no problem and still had 1/4 battery. I’m 210lbs. We’ll see how long it lasts though. Been 8mos now.
@@Stankycreekbmx thank you. Is there a video about tweaking the plates? I didnt buy one yet but sounds like alot to do with a new 2k board. Im deciding btw meepo hurricane n endeavor pro . Tough decision hummmm I dont want to inadvertently go thru a puddle n the battery to fail bz its not full waterproof like hurricane. But the hurricane seems little cheap in some aspects...
@@highestvirtue1892 there one dude who did a vid of it. It’s just one bolt under the board. The ride on this is going to be a lot better here because of the trucks. But the turning radius on most other boards will be better because of double kingpin trucks.
They now have the Endeavor 2 on their website, but it seems to be difficult to find the upgrades/differences anywhere; thoughts on this?
I should have bought the endeavor s instead of backfire hammer 😭🤬
3 times the range, less money
I love ur Videos man. Keep on going 😍
Does the Pro/S have a ip rating?any suggestions for AT boards that handle rain?
The weaknesses :
- The Antenna beside the deck lasted one use (I bought another one)
- The turning radius at low speed is terrible. I regularly stop and push the board with my feet to turn it and do not want to use it downtown.
- No way to carry it in public transportation.
- No water proof at all
- The terrible noise (About 15 times the sound of a regular board at 40km/h).
- Does not accelerate very strongly
But the concept works it is little car that brings you safely on rough bicycle lanes and good trails. It carves well 35-40km/h, it is a lot of fun. :) :)
Its looking great DIY platform, i hope they will sell only deck with susspension truck.
Can't wait to get mine! Even some of the cons are pros to me.
I got the RangerX2 for one of your reviews from a few years back. Great review bro i keep coming to check out more. Offtopic i really dig you shoes at 8:50. What style or brand are they. I appreciate it.
Nike Air Force 1 high top but with a zipper. I forget the exact name.
@@DanielKwan thanks found them as air nike jordan high zip
I agree it's a car... a class of its own and so deserved.
The boards look so awesome. Unfotunately "Propel" sounds and looks just like "Popel" which means bugger in german. I can`t overlook that, but damn it do I wish I could!
Make a review about Eovan Gts super
its cool, for off roading... .but i enjoy off roading with my PU 90s and some caliber 2s on a cruiser deck
To answer the question if you can carry skateboard on bus or train we are allowed to do that in Australia Perth
Can u install a skateboard wheels with that?
Any idea how it does on sand, like beach sand?
That thumb nail tho 😄 🤣 😂 😆 .... why does it look like you ran over a bunny 🐰 lmao....
I have the Endeavor S since last autumn and love it. Wish I have bought the Pro instead, which longer range!
what range do you get with your endeavor s?
@@VisionlineFilms Well, with my 175lb and ride in speed 2 (Midium) max at 30km, more than plenty for me, I get around 42km... that is on a good day without strong wind or uphill much. If with these two, it will give me about 3-5km less... Oh, I also keep my tire pressure at max, at 27psi...
@@ATrueCanadianBeaver Thanks! :)
Have u tried bajaboard ?
Just as a heads up this is the exact same comment I left on another electric skateboard video I watched earlier today.
I'm not sporty at all, I'm a major homebody. But if I got an electric skateboard it'd be for the purpose of exercising a dog. I've thought about maybe getting a doberman later. So I'd need a way to exercise him/her throughly that doesn't require too much movement from my lazy butt lol. I know they are a big, high energy dog so training and exercise is key for breeds like that to keep them happy, healthy, and making them a good dog. I have a chihuahua currently that doesn't require a bunch of exercise and she's very small so I can get away with not needing to do much movement with her. A big dog with lots of energy though, nope. Can't get away with that without consequences. I'd find a few ways of exercising the dog that can be minimal for me but still get out their energy, this just being one of them.
Thank you for this, I'll save this video in case I ever do get such a dog.
what happened to the Endeavor Pro? is their site down or just gone?
so i see u use wowgo mini2 at the start of the video, wowgo mini 2 vedio next?
Excellent review, thank you! Very entertaining, too!
The only issue I have with this board is that absolutely everything ships from China, including all of the possible spare parts. That means not only insanely high shipping cost ($200 for the board) but also about a three months wait time to get the board itself (water way shipping and customs) and probably the parts, too - unless you can shell out $600 for air freight. They really need to get this onto a container to the US and other continents in quantity and stock some service parts there like Backfire is doing it and then use ground shipping. I assume Propel is likely still ramping up production and this might be a bit of a steep ask. But the shipping situation is off-putting for me personally.
Hey Timo. My name is Russ, I run the North American service center servicing the US and Canada. We are fully stocked with parts here in Florida and have more boards on their way to the US warehouse as we speak.
You are correct in that we are new and still ramping the business but we recognize how important expedient service is in Esk8 and are doing our best to find solutions. You input is greatly appreciated.
@@propelvirtualgarage963 any idea on when the endeavor pro will be back in stock in us warehouse? I know this may be a difficult answer but any additional
Info would be great.
For me this thing is more fun than my suzuki gsxr
6:00...... PREMIUM POWER !!!!!!
what shoe is it @ 5:33
Hi is this board rated IP67 waterproof?
How does it feel at high speeds? My Wowgo AT2 can get a bit wobbly past 20mph if the trucks aren't tightened. High speed stability (as well as the range) are the main reasons I'm looking to upgrade
Stability has been cited as one of Endeavor’s primary strengths. On the Facebook group many owners have achieved personal speed bests without wobbles. The wide stance and suspension make it very stable.
Reminds me of “Johnny kapahala back on board”. If you know you know lol
you got a review on OneWheel tho?
First time subsriber what is the best scooter or long bord for a 15.5 stone please help I'd like to get fit and a scooter is just standing, long bord's you use your body .I'm very sick and need something to lose a bit more than jogging I need a bit of fun. Any advice please
Yeah i liked that !😀😀
Premium power! ...When you push manually like a non-electric board, does it lock up when out of battery? Could you push it comfortably with just a different wider leg stretch? Thanks a bunch! 🙏
It won’t lock up but this and any other board with pneumatic tires would be difficult to push. You’d get tired quickly.
@@DanielKwan Thank you! Thats great to know 🙂 How about using its street tires?
This or EUC is better?
Bro the poor squirrel in the thumbnail lmao
I wish you lived near the bush/woods. Would love to see you review the Tranzite Cross country 😩😩
Premium power baby!!!!!!!
Solid looking thing. Only negative that I'm like... uuuhh... is the reverse post full braking. In NYC that could lead me bumping tires with cyclists haha love your videos
You have to hold the brake back fully all the way for like 3 seconds for the smart reverse to kick in. If you just brake and let up again slightly it won’t engage.
at 1:51 this is the same guy who was in the Exway Flex ad. You Daniel Kwan was in the exway flex ad????
I think I was in a couple exway videos. Other brands too.
If, "Lathe Machine" !🙏
I think this thing is good offroad and stable at speed, but not as agile as other electric boards.
Charging $415 for postage to the UK it better be good !
Would it be possible to install bindings onto it, to make it more like a mountain board?
Check Propel’s Facebook group. I think people have put on those half-bindings.
Can’t wait for my premium power to get here! Less than a month!
can you review the miles phantom?
it's an awesome ride, I love it! I hope he reviews it :)
Hey Daniel. I live in seattle and am looking for a great all terrain board that I can ride in the rain and won’t require taking it apart and drying components every time I get caught in the rain. Is there a board out there that you’d recommend? Does one exist?
Not really. Splashes from wet roads after the rain should be ok for most AT boards (but slippery). I’d avoid situations where water could seep into the battery or ESC compartments even if they seem well sealed.
@@DanielKwan Thanks for the reply! love your channel. I guess I'll just plan to use my scooter to commute in the rainy season and get a board for the summer :). It's really just for getting to and from work after riding the train for my commute. (about 2 miles) The scooter zips along pretty good but skateboards just feel better..
do you feel like all terrain skateboards feel more stable at higher speeds?