DYNO DAY!! - 2020 BMW S1000RR Horsepower
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It's Dyno Day for the 2020 BMW S1000RR M!! Took me a while to actually find a shop that could get me in to do a dyno run to just get a baseline curve with horsepower and torque numbers so we have something to compare to after mods. NOTE: This was on a mustang dyno. It specifically measures power delivered at the wheel. It doesn't measure crank / brake horsepower or do any adjustments fluff the number. This is an accurate representation of how much power is actually reaching the street, which is what matters. From 15 years of experience, Micah knew what the estimated adjustment would be for different bikes and power numbers to give a dynojet estimation. For this, it was around 18%. Thus, a dynojet dyno would show about 18% higher of a number than this dyno. I don't really care. I just want to be able to compare before and after. So yeah, do with that info what you like lol
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Hey y'all, just wanted to clarify some more if it wasn't clear in the video. This was on a mustang dyno, which measures actual horsepower at the wheel. The numbers you typically see for motorcycles is on a dynojet dyno, which uses a variety of other factors and calculations to get their own horsepower number. From his 15 years of experience, Micah could give a rough estimate of what this bike would show on a dynojet dyno. They key with these things is to just understand what information you're seeing and use that for your own application. Comparing one number to the other or one bike on a mustang (or other "brand" of dyno) to a different bike elsewhere doesn't really tell a whole lot. But hey, for the peepee measuring, I'll make sure to get this on a dynojet soon as well lol.
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He's absolutely wrong about changing hp with different sprockets. Changing the sprockets changes your torque multiplier, and hp is just a function of torque and RPM. If you put crazy gearing on a bike (down teeth in the front or up teeth in the rear), it becomes much more easy to wheelie. Why? You're increasing the torque applied to the rear wheel.
He wasn't saying that it changes your horsepower. He said it has an effect on the Horsepower number a dynojet will show.
@@motonosity yeah, I'm saying it should change the number. Double the length of your lever, double your force on the other end.
The torque should change. The hp may not change because you're RPM will be different. Clarification
@@isaaclarson yeah for sure. Torque will absolutely change.
Keep in mind people, whether you're partial to Mustang Dyno vs Dynojet vs your bathroom scale, as long as the same one is used once mods are done that will be the only way to truly show the results (as far as HP is concerned). Looking forward to future videos of the bike 👍
I had my bike dynoed at AF1 as well and Micah told me that same thing about adding 15-20%. My bike dynoed at 113hp when other dynos show 130 or so. My bike runs very strong Micah did a great job. I’ll be taking my new bike to him when I gets here.
How much did that run ya? I'm in Austin also just wanted a rough price range.
From what ive read from bren, 40-120mph pulls are about 1 sec faster than stock which is pretty good. Cant wait for your actual results!
Yeah I saw that post. Pretty insane. We'll find out in the real world soon enough 😉
AF1 racing is very knowledgeable and quite open about what they do, which isnt common. I have learned many of things about my bike which i had no knowledge about like air injector to compress my fuel injector for my direct fuel injection system. Like a seperate piston that is run off the crank just to act like an air compressor. Just like a shop compressor they build up water condensation thus fuel plus water equals real bad. What im getting at is i learned this all for free through the AF1 racing forums and free advice from their techs on there who actually respond. Moral ,I installed a really expensive water trap with top of the line push fit fittings and tygon line, all in 200 deep. Saved over 2500 in a purposely designed to fail Aprilia parts, not including labor. Now its perfect and runs better to. Im not sure if their forums cover BMW‘s but they sure know their stuff about Italian bikes. Im glad you went there moto especially with your dream bike. That says alot to me. Good luck with the mods, mustang dyno, dyno this or that. At least they dont pump your head up with B.S. Real world expectations
Wait a second, I’m about to buy a brand new RSV4. What’s this about “purposefully designed to fail”???
Favorite bike channel, dude has the best taste in motorcycles
Preciate that dude! Thanks!
193hp to the wheel is impressive. Stoked to see what a flash does. Also good luck getting the ECU back inside. That looks tough 😂
Its funny how you don’t see anymore comments about how much people love those ugly ass headlights from the old bike and don’t like the new bike? Especially after watching videos of this bike doing dyno runs! 😂
You should go and put it on a dynojet now and you will know how accurate that 18% is! That would be very interesting.
I won't be able to get it on a Dynojet before the ECU flash, but I WILL be putting it on both after the flash. We'll find out :)
I really think u should accentuate the bronze more on the bike, it looks so good
ECU FLASH on BMW S1000rr is really something out of this world.. Awesome bro... BMW suits u alot.. keep riding. lots of love from INDIA..
🇮🇳INDIA is a country my frnd..
My god you get a lot of argumentative commentators :D Loving the new bike vids man keep em coming. Also I'd always prefer a straight rear wheel hp number myself, i.e., this dyno
It’s just exciting just listening to the engine sounds going up and down during the test. Lol
Absolute dream bike of mine too Motonosity really enjoying these videos keep up the good work
Micah is a legend.
Man that’s a beautiful bike.. good content too!
I spoke to bren tuning regarding the flash. Its just a tune to rid of the flat spot under 9k rpm. You increase hp in the low to midrange. From what i understand, hes coming up with a stage 1 tune for the bike to increase overall topend hp.
So many people think dyno's are relevant. Dyno's are just a tuning tool numbers are not important at all. for example many times guy's around me oh your bike only does 190 whp but you'll see my bike kicking the living hell out of there 200 whp+ bikes. The dyno should only be used for tuning and ALWAYS go to the same dyno and use the same tuner or it's all for nothing. Sometimes talking with dyno number loving people makes a real funny and labor intensive conversation as they don't understand anything except for final numbers. My race bikes get about 5hp gains on racing oil compared to normal road oil just to give an idea on oh much everything makes a difference on a bike.
My advice for you is try to go back to the dyno in the same conditions temp/pressure/humidity etc. if you can get those numbers for when you went try to recreate the same day after you get the ECU back to get the closest to the same conditions to get the most accurate numbers possible. One things for sure Brent will transform that bike completely and the tunes they have right now aren't even power mode tunes it's just ajustements, full throttle open and options unlocked.
AF1 racing is the best! I love that place.
love your content..
thanks for sharing..
have a nice weekend!
Another dude from Austin keep it real liked the vid giving me a reason to pick 1 up
Cool thing about living in the future and technology. You can flash the ECU, do whatever but the checksum of the original ECU file won't match anymore. Goodbye any sort of warranty if you have to go-to a dealership for repair/warranty work. You've just voided all that to the point where BMW might not even work on the bike anymore.
Can’t wait for the mods! Especially the exhaust and ohh Im thinking if u gonna replace the tail lights or maybe some company made integraded tail lights for the 2020 1000RR
Can't wait to see the actual difference a flash will make on this beastly of a bike.
Astonishing power curve.. torque in not bad too✌️ Hi from 🇵🇹
Love the content, ride safe
AF1 is the best shop in the world for Aprilia.
Love your channel broski
The mechanic seems to have a few inaccuracies in his definitions. There are several types of dynamometers
BOTH, the Mustang and Dynojet are Rearwheel dynamometers
Manufacturers(BMW, Honda, etc) always use Engine Dynamometers
To be clear, a Dynojet is NOT an "engine" dyno, it measures RWHP
Engine Dynos show more horsepower because they are run with the engine alone. There are no pumps, accessories, alternators, chains, drivetrains, etc creating a load on the engine. Even a chain robs you have HP. It has give, it stretches to a degree, it has slack, etc. The chain may only take away 1 or 2 HP but add that up with all of the other engine accessories and drive train components and it can be 15 to 30%.
I love all s1000rr beamers and might have to add to my stable 🔥
Man I can't wait to see the new HP numbers! Did you bump up the RPM limit also?
why flash your ecu before you exhaust it? Even a slip on or a conservative exhaust needs an ecu mod to re-calibrate AFR
I think the same way does not makes any sense flashing before the exhaust. I put a full exhaust and the filter and that bike does not need a ecu flash. Have way more power than most of us can use.
I'll be reflashing after the exhaust :)
Cool you will love the difference with the full exhaust. I have one of the 2 akra full titanium evolution in the states and love it.
@@grandtaino With a full system and filter you always should get a bespoke tune (no flash). The fueling needs changing (setting up) properly as the ECU will fight against the changes and not get the full potential from the changes and probably run lean.
Usually with just an end can on most bikes you should get away with no tune but still gain a few hp and torque, but on some bikes the cat will be part of the original end can so removing it is pretty much like fitting a full system without the lighter headers.
i rode the old model around the track for 2 days a few months ago at the California Superbike school. I'll be riding this new one at their next school in September. Im curious as to how different it feels. I thought the old model was impressive, but will had no soul when compared to the V4S, which to me just "sang" to me
Great content ! Keep it up.
Nice video!
enjoyed the video!
5:21 vtec kicked in yooooo
Seemed like a super nice guy.
I heard ECU flash will void the factory warranty.
Only if dealer can prove that the flash caused the issue.
@@alexkibis4338 witch is very easy
@@ToneNewEra exactly lol ECU's today have memory chips for just about everything the bike does and gets installed. it's like Porsche they can see every over rev and redline ever did to the car. You can't hide things from manufacturers today. Engines cost so much they protect them for when someone blows there stuff up they will se it and void. So doing an ECU is a choice people do.
This is correct.
Lol Bren will still say oh no dont worry my flash is undetectable send it over, and when it blows ur engine up , oh no u signed this fine print contract, u are on ur own mate.☝️☄😂
Just sounds like he's revving the ballocks outta ya bike! 🙈 😝
from my experience, mustang dynos are better and if you want to be true to hp you go to them if you want pretty number u go dyno jet
So the ECU flash is going to be insane
Id be *TERRIFIED* to work on a new s1000rr
Dude just taking off that tiny tank cover had me nervous lol
@@motonosity 😬😬😬
I had both of my bike stripped down to the engine on the first week lol (my new race bikes) . It's not rocket science it's just bolts and plastic like all the older models.
Hey Brent, did you get a chance to check out any of AF1’s awesome Aprilia’s while you were there? I’m about to pull the trigger on a 2019 RSV4 and was wondering what your opinion of them was?
That Dyno guy was super fun
So crank hp should be somewhere around 213 or so if you add 10% to 193 for drivetrain loss. Thats pretty good considering BMW says 205 and the ducati claims 211 for the V4.
Man id feel like id have to change the oil after that dyno
That was one of the strangest Dyno tests I've ever seen
Damn you live that close to AF1 and haven’t owned an RSV4?? I order all my parts from them.
Just never been a big fan of Aprilias 🤷
Just never been a big fan of Aprilias 🤷
@@motonosity you've never felt the thunder between your legs lmao.
@@spktylr has nothing to do with how it rides lol
WHEN THE TIME COMES MAKE A VID ON HOW TO ADJUST YOUR VALVES AND SHIMS
These the dudes over at AF1 Racing!!??
That dyno guy somehow remind me of ace combat 7
650ib said that the mid-range power turns on or is no longer delay when you get in exhaust
yes but the bike is running 15 AFR's!!! thats danger lean and needs a tune ASAP. I wouldn't put any exhaust on a bike that doesn't have tuning available yet.
Also bmw won’t touch it with Ecu flash, if you want a powerful bike stick with the original s1000rr mines sat at 220hp at the back wheel and they still service and stamp it but for some reason they won’t with the new one????
People just wanna see a "normal" dyno with rev limit. :D
Dude that bike is sooooo cool if I could sell my cbr 600 and have more money I’d buy one when possible
That’s pretty good for a mustang dyno.
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Dyno and a new tire, not a cheap day. Lol.
throw out that dyno machine
@motonosity I need that shirt bro. U gatta bring those back
I'm not going to go into dyno wars with you but I can tell you this.... On a Mustang, you can make anything you want it to read all you want. You can make a stock Grom say it makes 1000whp. To get wheel horsepower you need to put it on a dyno. Unless you have the motor out and attached to a motordyno... guess what you'll get? Horsepower at the Crank. Why? Cause you didn't use wheels to spin the dyno. Lastly, check any automotive standard. There's a reason to why Dynojets are used for records vs any other dyno. At the end of the day.... Dyno's are just tools to use. If you want to go around telling people you make 16xhp that's fine but to guess a random "18%" is where the problem is. Every mustang dyno reads whatever it wants to read, high or low.
None the less, good video.
Interesting how booked dynos are. Especially since it's for the enthusiast
Most of the time it's probably a session to tune as well. Not exactly a 5 minute job.
AF1 is known as the premier Aprilia tuner in the world. So their dyno time books up quickly.
@@MotovationUSA hmm interesting
I wonder why he stopped putting RR M in his titles
I know nothing about dyno testing I've watched lots of videos but that just seems weird to me that they melted your rear tire like that ??
What mods are you going to do? (power wise)
Exhaust, flash, air mods. That's all for the near future.
i didnt know steve kerr.is.into.bikes too
Its not quit a sportysound what comes out the stock exaust. do you gonna get a aftermarket exaust? And why you don't go to a motorcycle dyno?
That was a motorbike dyno
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Put a toce exhaust on it
Could you revert the ecuflash if you want?
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60 hp loss seem very high ?
and were you riding in a tee shirt? why?
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Not even 2020 but it's called 2020bike? Hmmm im kinda lost can anyone explain? Or is it the model is meant for 2020?
Yes
Is it possible to get this bike closer to 185-195hp at the rear wheel without a supercharger/turbo?
What gearing was used?
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Austin racing will change the bike into somethin dangerous
your front fork is leaking
No they're not?
Motonosity look at the left side
@@egganthecaptain6863 I'm sitting next to my bike right now lol. It's just dirt. It's not leaking.
Motonosity ohh. Sorry. Love your videos.
@@egganthecaptain6863 no worries man, preciate ya lookin out 😊
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Nice bike, but what's up with the channel logo.
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And your name channel URL being MotonosityX...X being yet another reference to stan, the original soyboy.
The colors, of course, but you get the point. You don't seem like the kind of dude who wants to attach himself to the losing team...come to Jesus Christ while you still can. All who repent and confess that Jesus Christ is the messiah shall be saved no matter what sin they have committed against Him.
Guys so monotone. Get a grip buddy
What happened to ‘modern’ super bikes breaking the 200hp barrier." Lies I tell thy haha
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I do have a newborn lol.
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