2023 Honda HR-V First Drive | Bigger and Meatier
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- We do a first drive in the new Honda HR-V making it more similar to the older CR-V with more usable space. It shares similarities with the new Civic vs the older Honda Fit and aims to take over appliance duty in a budget friendly manner. While it certainly is not going to blow people away on any performance metric, the new body and suspension is what people have been asking for in this segment, or is it?
#cars #suv #hrv
Index:
00:00 Interior and Exterior Impressions
4:27 Driving Impressions
9:00 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
As Alonso would say:
Engine feels great.
Much slower than before.
Amazing.
GP2...Aahh!
Indeed, and it's clear they took influence from him when seeing the storage area sizes of the Civic and said "always, you have to leave a da space" and made this.
Its going to outlast any turboed engine! So he got a point 💯🙋♂️
Cvt’s are garbage
@@Jose-rj6oe wow, so maybe you gotta fix the turbo for 500 bucks every 10 years or so. :))))
The ending is priceless, not even a freeze-frame!! 😁 Thanks guys for another fab video, your engineering support sets you apart once again
I looked away for the ending but thanks to your comment I went back and watched again. LOL
LOL
Jack's launch face is priceless 🤣
Would've loved to see Mark's take on the blistering performance of this precision-crafted machine
stop trying to copy how Jack and Mark talk. It's pathetic.
@@misternordberg3675 time to get some fresh air, stranger
30 seconds before this video ended, I sat there thinking to myself... why do I watch reviews for cars I have absolutely no interest in, on a Friday evening... and then you reminded me.
Keep in mind that 0-60 was with no additional passengers/cargo...
Imagine trying to merge on the highway with 4 passengers.
Reminds me when I was driving my friends in a 97 Corolla and had the foot to the floor merging on the highway and people still honked at me because of how slow it was.
I dated a girl in college briefly that had a geo prizm with a 3-speed auto. We took it on a road trip one summer. I don't think I've ever held an accelerator pedal to the floor for so long and with so much terror as when we had to merge onto the interstate. I was fearful a semi going 55 was going to rear end us.
As a kid in middle eastern Europe I used to drive anything from a Fiat 126 with 600cc engine to more "modern" 1.2l , 1.4l , 1.6l Skoda's, VW's and Seats. Bet you any money that 97 Corolla would be considered fast among those...😆
@@TermlessHGW As a kid from Czech, you keep Skodas out of your mouth! :D Just kidding. Definitely know what you're talking about.
I've made a similar comment, of course we don't expect 0-60 in under 5-6 seconds, but yes, that's 10+s to highway speeds. I didn't even realize that was one person in it.
@@richardnavratil9661
Given how much the HR-V weighs, the battleship-steel Ladas are a better comp.....
5:00 I understand this is a commuter car. It doesn't need to go 0-60 in under 5 seconds or be punchy. But damn, that 10+ to 6 seems straight up dangerous for highway merging for example.
On every review of this that I've seen, they floor it and after a couple seconds I literally feel the urge to get out and push. Full fam with cargo on an incline? Better turn on your hazards! I like to imagine a group of sled dogs pulling this thing up a hill with the engine at redline, struggling.
0-60 in 10 seconds is not “dangerous.”
People are spoiled. Any 0-60 in single digits was considered quick in 1980s-90s cars.
Plenty of econocars and various trucks and vans are much slower 0-60 than this HR-V and they manage fine merging on highways.
A normal 0-60 pace getting on a highway without your foot pressed all the way to the floor is probably over 20 seconds.
@@DragonOverdosed It’s fast enough for the class. There are sporty vehicles with more power for people who like to drive hard and fast and waste a lot of gas.
Nah, it's really not a big deal. I have a '16 HR-V and it's totally fast enough for merging and other highway sprints. I live in Utah where the speed limits are higher than most states too.
@@DragonOverdosed after a while any vehicle starts feeling slow
Boy, Jack is working hard not to say, "This car isn't very good but it doesn't completely suck like a Yugo."
When have you scheduled the HR-V vs Corolla Cross drag race? We desperately need to know which is slower. 😂 The Honda 1.5 Turbo and Toyota 2.5 would have probably made the HR-V and Cross more fuel efficient AND quicker as they simply would not have to work as hard as the 2.0 engines. 🤔
In many countries, vehicle taxes are determined by engine displacement. The 2.0 L seems to be the uppermost displacement for an every man's car. Beyond that, vehicle taxes are obscene by American standards.
@@gadeane287 all the more reason it should have used the 1.5 instead of the 2.0. I’d really like to know if that was just a cost saving effort, or something else.
@@gadeane287 This is a model designed very specifically for the North American market as other markets have their own version of the HR-V. No such considerations apply.
I think they do this with the engines because they don’t want people moving away from CR-V or RAV4’s because those vehicles are more expensive. If they stick a little shitbox engine in these cars, it attracts certain kinds of buyers who just don’t care about a better drivetrain. That’s my theory anyways. I test drove a civic 2.0 and a 1.5T, and I picked the 1.5T the difference is just crazy in how they perform.
Shame they don't sell the CX-30 with the 2.0 engine in the US market or you could have a 3rd competitor.
I feel you glossed over the major pain point of the 2023 HR-V and that being the fuel economy. Vs the direct rival the Corolla Cross its 26/32 is a poor showing vs the 31/33 of the Cross despite both being horribly underpowered for their chassis. That isn’t even including the Hybrid model launching this year.
Going up market is well and good, but that is also why the CR-V exists. This feels like it’s lost in a weird middleground where yes, it is an overall nicer vehicle but is that what people want at this stage? Or is it more important to have an affordable efficient vehicle with more space then the ecobox sedan/hatches.
Not to mention that house in real world testing is getting 40 miles per gallon on the highway outperforming the EPA at least on the front wheel drive model whereas so far the testers of the HRV haven't shown great fuel economy
I was actually waiting to pass judgment for a real world loan. Which i probably should of specified ☹️. They had us basically driving up and down twisty mountains the entire time in the Washington state area so naturally i drove like a maniac defeating any real world mpg.
@@jackholmes8105 Yeah that is totally understandable and why these manufacturer preview things suck, but know it helps keep the channel afloat getting early access! Thanks for the reply
The Cross for 2023 is getting a hybrid with combined 37 mpg and 194HP.
CR-V for some reason dictates some premium price for the segment, so there was quite a gap between prev HR-V and CR-V. So I see why Honda decided to move HR-V up a little
I test drove this twice and LOVED it, ordered one!! Drives really nice! While I would like to see better MPG, it's the best commuter car for me, especially with the snowy winters!
Damn.... that is some precision while accelerating to 60. I bet this comes as a safety feature in order not to tear low-end-CVT (sorry, no offense) apart with momentum.
Precision kicks in after 130 mph... Yo
@Troy Obviously they will never say something edgy :) I know at least 8 people, (friends and colleagues; like trustworthy, mostly) that had their CVTs replaced in a car that was bought new from 7k to 25k. Nissan and Subarus, though. No Hondas. At least yet.
why does it not put max fuel per combustion chamber vaolume fuel at begining, that would be more effceint if maintaining momentum after that. lotus exige had a computer that can clculate how much torque is required for max speed, such a thing could prevent wheel slip and rev out engine early a little or tell user to do so when building mometum for a hill incline and taking advantage of declines. itd be a meter with the spedometer.
I always wanted a CX-30 with less power and a CVT, so this is perfect.
yeah honestly thou without a turbo or hybrid motor this car seem very stupid its pretty much a shitty cx30 less luxurious less refine slower alittle more practicle
Great review on how this vehicle drives and handles. I have the HRV LX AWD, and it’s a wonderful vehicle at a very affordable price tag, while still feeling very luxurious and not skimping on any of the vital and necessary features. I absolutely love my HRV. ❤
Lol
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@@anishshrestha8146 I think the Honda interior is better. But yeah performance and handling lacking
I wish they just would have given us the European version! Come on Honda! Don’t give us crappy design. You always do this!
The CVT is a show stopper for me. We own a CX-30 AWD and my only complaint is the lack of cargo space. We recently drove our CX-30 from MA to NC. The cargo area was stuffed. However, we averaged over 35 MPG (calculated) on our drive south. Since arriving in western NC, we have driven over 100 miles on the Blue Ridge Parkway. The 6 speed automatic transmission is almost flawless and the car’s handling is secure and predictable (for the price point). Visibility could be better but it’s tolerable. I have owned several Honda products for over 20 years and have thoroughly enjoyed all of them. Before buying the CX-30, I drove the current CR-V and the 2021 HR-V. The mushy and lackluster performance of the CVT torpedoed both cars. We jumped ship from Honda and bought our first Mazda.
I’ve owned a few Hondas and have also gone with Mazda on my last 3 purchases. I have a 2016 Mazda 3 and a 2021 CX-5 currently. All have been flawless and more fun to drive than Hondas of the last 15 years. Congrats on your Mazda. The CX-30 is too tight on cargo area for me also as I travel. The CX-5 is not huge but I’m single and fold the backseat down.
I can relate to Your experience with Honda versus Mazda. After 27 years with Honda I am driving a Mazda CX5 since 2018 and don't regret that for a minute.
The Mazda lineup is fun in a way that most modern hondas are not
@@christopherjohnston6343 that’s why I always buy Mazdas nowadays
@@takuan650 that’s my experience too!
Looks great, but as others have already mentioned, bad MPG and slow af make it a no go. I think a city bus has faster acceleration than what we just witnessed in this video
Ya what’s the point of getting a tiny crossover if the mpg sucks. Isn’t that kinda the point of them? Sacrifice space for efficiency? Guess not Honda…
That was painful to watch hahaha
I just dont understand how they fucked up the engine choice. They already decided to use a cvt, why not just mate it to something small like a 1.4l turbo powerplant and call it a day?
If acceleration is what you are looking for, buy an Audi. Then you will start complaining about the price.
@@propertyguru22 sorry, what I meant by acceleration was the ability to go from 0 to 60mph comfortably without feeling like a moped could outrun me entering the freeway. I know this isn’t a sports car, but damm. At least give us the hybrid option from the get go to improve that performance
Damn. That thing builds momentum like the highway department repairs roads. "We'll get to it, eventually."
Because he is clueless on how to drive a CVT equipped vehicle. So called pro. Man, how I wish I could talk to him face to face and inform him that when you punch a CVT equipped vehicle to the floor like he does they actually accelerate slower than if you push it progressively to the floor. The trans will spool up faster and give you better acceleration.
Bravo 10 out of 10 on this film especially the ending sent chills down my spine. The enthusiasm you showed was absolutely outstanding
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Thank you, this video was an essential piece in my search for a dedicated track csuv. The hrv seems like a true road ripper with that naturally aspirated 2.0L. But I think my money has to go to the big power the NA 2.5L in the cx-30. Can’t wait to break records on track for the awd csuv class. Thank you Jack and Mark for always helping me make the best decisions!
For how big the car is now, it really needed the 1.5T or the 2.4L. There's definitely more than enough room in the engine bay, which really shows how large the vehicle has gotten. With the Corolla Cross Hybrid coming out, Honda's already late to the game without a powerful hybrid HR-V from the get go.
Honda just isn't hitting home runs anymore. They're super late to the new game
@@Mike-er4fo everything they’re making has been at the top of their class. Perhaps not a homer in power department but a homerun overall.
The L15 and K24 are not better choices IMO. I would like to see the option for the K20C4 and 10 speed like the accord. The K20C2 is a good option as a base for sheer reliability. For the price they did pretty good IMO.
Only one engine option in the Corolla Cross. Straight from Toyotas website: 2.0-liter 4-cylinder DOHC 16-valve with Dual Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i), 169 hp @ 6600 rpm/151 lb.-ft. @ 4400 rpm
No it doesn’t. This is for folks that need space but can’t afford a cr-v. This is how they made it affordable. If you want the luxury of a turbo you’ll buy the cr-v.
Although I'm disappointed the magic seats are gone, I THANK YOU for sharing the explanation as to why they're gone.
"Lack of interior refinement compared to the Corolla Cross"? Not only the Cross has better gas mileage, it has rear air vent, rear USB plugs, and rear seat armrest. None of that was mentioned!
This HR-V is SIGNIFICANTLY nicer than the Corolla Cross inside. The Toyota feels cheap and boring.
@@ThirdBrainLives I’ve sat inside this too and it also feels cheap, even the way the doors sound when they close is very tinny. Here in Mexico it’s more expensive than a RAV4, a Tucson or Tiguan, all of them are bigger and better products compared to this
I appreciate the level of detail used when describing the architecture of the HR-V. Nobody else had mentioned that some of its underpinnings are based off the current (soon to be previous) ten CR-V. That’s good to know!
4:30 That slow of a takeoff would make some of the short on-ramps in the Northeast dangerous to try using. At bare minimum make enemies of anyone on the highway you inevitably cut off.
That cx-30 has a torque converter 6speed auto and optional turbo power tho....
Some of these cars may end up as grill work on semis.....
My daily commute involved an uphill on-ramp. I use to own a Fit, and merging onto the freeway was always a bit stressful. Now that it is bigger and heavier, the HRV really needed their 1.5 turbo engine.
Thanks for the excellent review. When comparing with its competitors I’m surprised you didn’t include the Subaru Crosstrek though, which to me is the class leader in many respects and likely the car that pushed its competitors to come up with the likes of the CX-30/Corolla Cross/HRV in the first place.
Still, lots of very useful info on the HRV here, always appreciated.
Great video guys!. I went to the dealer today for service on my 18 accord. I looked at this car and really liked the looks in person. The interior is nice too for what it is. . Only real downside was the almost $9000 over MSRP the dealer is charging for the one the have in stock.....
Did not expect to laugh so hard at the end. That was so unexpectedly awkward it was hilarious. 😂
Great review, good job bud.
Glad they brought new exterior styling to this car. It was in desperate need of a refresh
A fair review by savagegeese. A lot of us in our 20s in the 1980s-1990s (now 60+) had used or new with car payments. The new HR-V reminds me of the 1991 Civic DX hatchback I purchased with a trade-in. When new my 1986 Ford Tempo Sport GL/5sp stick was great for partime job at Sears whicle in college. Even with employee discount that Tempo was a maintenance nightmare. Thought I'd share for others that bought Tempo/Topaz twin in 85-89. HR-V looks sharp. At 61 I'd be more willing to get it to replace my 9 yr old Camry LEered a 5-6spd manual. At least offer a manual trans as an option.
The ending is GOLD!
great take on comparing it with the cx 30. Thanks!
Great review!
15 seconds to 60 mph! Vintage Honda performance.
Throwback Performance may be the next hotness when the world is full EV.
and by vintage, we're talking late 1970's!
@@misternordberg3675 Uh, no, not that far. More like twenty years. There are still other economy cars well over ten seconds. Twenry years ago there weren't cheap turbo engines. A two-liter with over 150 hp would have been considered more than ample for any smallish car.
@@scottieray sure if this car came with 2.0 liter reving its tits out with a manual gearbox sure the slowness could be excused for back to basic fun but a cvt eco box is pretty much the same a shitty ev car it even sound like an ev car in fact worst then ev car why not just get an ev car.
@@patthonsirilim5739 Had a stroke trying to read your comment
Excellent review. I can relate.😊
Love precision acceleration
Top stuff, Jack.
That intro music was perfect foreshadowing of the 0-60 test.
This was a great review, as usual. I couldn’t help but think about how my very first car was a Honda Civic. I drove it for over 15 years. It was reliable but took over 10 seconds to go from 0 to 60. It got so bad that as my car aged, I dreaded highway driving. I wanted to update to a newer Civic or HRV, but when it came time to replace my car, all I could think about was how scarily slow the acceleration was and the reality that this sluggishness persists even in newer models. I like the design direction Honda has taken with the 2022/2023 Civics and now, the HRV, but as someone who has willed my car to go faster merging onto highways, the 2023 HRV is a disappointment. My old car was slow AF and unacceptably so at that; I wouldn’t want to go back to that or encourage others to do the same.
10s 0-60 is not dangerously slow at all
You’d like the Toyota Camry.
@@CheeseTheAnimator_onGoAnimate If you didn't need the higher space cargo utility of the HR-V, the Camry SE is definitely a winner and my other consideration for a few grand more, but the N/A 4 cylinder has a lot of power, and reliable conventional automatic transmission and great handling and interior room and decent trunk space. Probably the best reliable mid sized sedan now.
When you mention the rear suspension and AWD being lifted off the "prior generation" CR-V, does that mean the still on-sale 5th gen (2017-2022), or the aging 4th gen (2011-2016)? The 2023 6th gen model is not yet on sale.
Great work
wow, a honda that is actually slow than my miata, this is game changing!
If your Miata is close to as slow as this HR-V, it must be an NA that is running on 3 cylinders.
Honda... Thank you for delivering another flavor of the month. I can't wait for you to add giant fender flares like on the Ridgeline HPV. Please Jack it up a half inch and add a primary color and put an "X" in front of the name so I feel good about buying an off-road vehicle.
Thanks for the review, gents.
I like your song choice for tackling a mountain road.
Great review. How would you say this compares to a Kia Seltos? Better? Worse? Not in same class?
CR-V and Civic had a baby! I like the package and hope for a PHEV version. Great review, except I miss the grand vistas of Illinois farms :)
How about compared to the Subaru Crosstrek?
May not be as upscale but known for great ride and soft-road capability, qualities important for this segment since they are not fun to drive.
Also 2.5L engine is better with around same mpg.
And in a rare victory for a Subaru, the Crosstrek with the 2.5 has both more power and better fuel economy than the HR-V with this engine.
My daughter is a 2022 Impreza owner. More or less a “transportation appliance” but it should prove reliable, good winter transportation. It has the best A/C, night and day from our GTI’s.
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I work in a large factory surrounded by people who put 4,000 miles a year on their cars and leave our county about twice a year. Our parking lot is full of HR-Vs, and they all love them. AWD for the Ohio winters, reliable any heck because it's a Honda. I think car people like us watching car reviews all live in a bubble and worry about that engine, but 90%+ of the people who buy these things are absolutely satisfied with the power.
Well, if that is the Honda factory in Marysville, Honda may give those HR-Vs to the employees. Probably the only way to get rid of them.
@@jimiverson3085 lol. About an hour away.
I like the idea of the extra suspension travel and tuning. I wonder how plush it is compared to the Crosstrek. I wish the engine was a bit more grunty but they last forever.
That outro stare with the Jeepers Creepers sound was everything.😆😆
I think the almost dangerously weak performance of the new HR-V should've been emphasized more, especially since the reviewers harped on how anemic the Corolla Cross was in its review, yet it has more horsepower/torque and weighs about the same as the HR-V. I've seen the 0-60 time of the HR-V in the 13 second range which is glacial, and markedly slower than the 10.5 sec average I've seen for the Corolla Cross, which is already slow enough! Other than that, this new HR-V is now too big to be called a subcompact SUV (it's the same size as the Mazda CX-5, not the CX-30 it's competing against) and I think its exterior is by far the least attractive in its category. Its interior is the only saving race, but it's not enough to counter all the other issues the car has. I'd much sooner get the Subaru CrossTrek, Mazda CX-30 or the Corolla Cross over this if I wanted a subcompact SUV. And if I wanted an SUV the size of the HR-V, I'd much sooner get the CX-5 or the RAV4.
Honda needs to bring the NA 2.4 liter.
I think you're right about dangerously weak performance. A lot of people will underestimate its ability to pull out into active traffic and probably get smashed.
@@Lazirus951 Agreed (though I think you meant 'overestimate').
@@sammyt3514 Ah, yes you're right! My bad.
@@johnnybravo5044 the K24 is probably not emissions compliant anymore?
Nice Escape!
Just saw this car in person and it is beautiful. The only downside to this car is the speed; 0-60 in 11.5 seconds….which is reeeeeeally slow
It’s trash.
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 By what standard? In the same class, every other car is hideous. I mean if you are comparing it to a luxury car, sure it sub par, but this is a $27k car
@@Sam-rc7wd he’s right and it’s trash. At least Mazda-CX30 drives far better with its old school 6 speed auto. AND looks much better IMO.
@@Selector21 I never mentioned that it drove better, in fact I stated the opposite. If you enjoy the look of another vehicle that is fine. Its subjective 🤷♂️
@@Sam-rc7wd Yes, I agree. Everything is subjective. I’m just butt hurt (haha) that crossovers are everywhere while I love liftback and station wagon (“estate” in Europe) body styles.
Thanks Jack for the facts! I like the HR-V except for the CVT. The new exterior is nice. I don't like the tombstone infotainment screen.
That 0-60 time coupled with the rickroll song playing on the infotainment screen 💀
I just test drove the HR-V and man if they just gave it a peppier engine, this thing would be legit. It drove nice and quiet with usable space. I'm not mad at the CVT but a small turbo engine would push this thing into a real contender.
If only it had more horsepower than my push mower
Gotta get that marginally better fake MPG
The newest entry to the SGCU (SavageGeese Cinematic Universe) does not disappoint with that cliff hanger ending.
the stare at the end killed me hahah
During most of these test drives, never do I see the tester catch up to a slower car that you really want to pass. Just driving along an empty scenic road, I'm sure the car is great. Let's get it out into traffic etc, then tell us what you think. This is meant to be constructive criticism. I really do enjoy your videos!
At 1:50, will that black sheet off to the right side of the engine bay make it into the production models? I sure hope so!
It seems to me that the HR-V's front end design is better in different parts of the world. Odd that they would waste money to make it worse for North America. And I just love how we are now paying old CR-V prices for something with an 11 second 0-60 time.
HR-V for the USA is a different car from HR-V for the rest of the world. In terms of size, it sits between European HR-V and CR-V. Door handles at back doors are different. The Interior is more like Civic instead of Jazz.
It's not a sports car, 0-60 is irrelevant
@@manfromnantucket9544 No, it's not. When you're on a typical American highway you need to have the ability to accelerate fairly quickly or else you're causing a safety issue for everyone else, not just yourself. I'm not asking for a sports car, 9 seconds would be totally acceptable. Imagine if you had an HR-V full of passengers or cargo and lived in mountainous area, or an area with 75+ mph speed limits, or both!
I hear you. I do think it's tough to compare old and new, as the new fleet of vehicles for all manufacturers offer alot more. I do think it's one of those things where consumers want more and more and more, but want the price to stay the same.
@@timflint25 you're correct. Man from Nantucket is obviously off his rocker.
The idea of replacing a hatchback Civic with this because "it's more practical" is nauseating, but that does seem to be where the wind is blowing. Would not be shocked to completely lose non-SUVs within a decade.
I hope not. Hatchbacks are a perfect blend of practical storage and car handling to me.
Buy what you believe in.
@TA Even in Europe they're heading towards SUVs
The new exterior design looks amazing to me. Like a mix or Porsche-Lexus-Mercedes and then Acura!
I think this is a greatly executed car by Honda. Well appointed interiors, good space and despite thinking the front end was horrendous, it actually works with the rest of the car. Looks upscale.
Sure wish it had more power though.
Dead on with that front end
and better mileage
More power and a torque converted automatic. Maybe most people don't notice the difference, but having done hard time in a Prius, CVT's really turn me off. At least with the Prius, I was getting insanely good mileage.
@@dougrobinson8602 If I recall, Prius use a E-CVT made up of planetary gears and 2 motor-generators right? It’s completely different from normal CVTs.
The back looks the worst for me. It has the slope of a Lincoln MKT. It just isn't attractive. The front looks perfectly fine for me.
I think it’s great. Modern and conservative. Wish it had at least 180hp/220tq, acoustic glass, wheel well liners.
This quick drive illustrates how poor the power to weight ratio is for this vehicle. Imagine the struggle this vehicle will have with four adult passengers and their luggage on-board with a full tank of gas. The peak horsepower is at 6500 RPM and torque is 138 lb-ft. I could not find a payload specification on the company website but 4 adults (180 lb average) + 4 carry-on bags (25 lb average) is 820 lbs. Making it bigger without meaningful torque makes this a dog on anything but flat surfaces. Bring in the turbo ASAP.
Yea, I'm honestly surprised they didn't offer the 180hp 1.5L turbo in this like they do the Civic.
@@Lazirus951 Nissan made the similar 'mistake' with the new Rogue by putting in a non turbo low horsepower four. In less than a year that engine was replaced with a modern 3-cylinder turbo unit with over 200 HP and 220 lb ft torque. It is much faster, responsive, and quieter.
7:38 this is why I watch your reviews.
Its got an HR👍nice
Solid work as always.
Just a comment to appease the almighty algorithms.
@4:58 i thought Mark was talking from the back seat. I guess it’s true , sometimes when you brew things in the same pot long enough, they start to taste similar ;)
6:08 that's a nice view of the infotainment system
One might say it's a view that won't let you down
@Savagegeese is this true? In doubt
Great job, Jack! Who's that other guy on savagegeese?
Very informative review, does this HRV have that dreaded engine “start/stop” system? If so, does it have a button to turn it off? Thanks
it does not have start/stop
@@Snarfz0orz thanks
@@Snarfz0orz thanks
Great vehicle, like mentioned, with a more engineering standpoint. I wanted a new Civic Sport Hatchback, but the HRv Sport suits me even better for the cargo utility and styling which I have no problems with. The price, and equipment is fine with me and the savings over the EX-L can be used to get all of my preferred OEM and aftermarket accessories and add on equipment.
Yes, not the fastest, but I would take this N/A 2.0L over the 1.5L anyday, for the reliability, dependability and longevity over the the turbo GDI 1.5L. In stick form, it will be more than adequate for me. I don't need the faster cars I have had in the past, abd the FWD will be perfect for where I live in Honolulu.
K-Tuner has a mod for this engine that gives the piwer equal to, or more than the turbo on demand without the long term reliability and shorter potential lifespan of the turbo, especially if you thrash and abuse your car.
And Eibach springs can improve the handling and body roll if you want it. And best of all, unlike the Civic, this does not have the dreaded auto start/stop.
My main complaints would be that the Black exterior emblems should come included on the Sport, and they should have a map storage pocket behind the driver's/left seat.
The Bose stereo would be nice, but probably only be on the EX-L or possible future Sport Touring like the Civic Hatchback snd would add to the cost. I heard the OEM stereo sounds oretty goid, but I could always upgrade the ano and sorakers if I wanted to.
The added power and traditional automatic transmission over the CVT would be nice, but it is what it is for this price.
My wife’s boyfriend’s daughter will love taking this college!
Funny coincidence. I just saw a Hrv with a manual for sale at my local CarMax and wondered if the goose crew had done a review on one. It has 90k miles and my credit score has soared this year into the 500s! I'm considering scheduling a test drive
How come your score is so low you foker
It has a R18 engine so with the manual it’s like a raised up 06-11 Honda Civic with a manual. The R18 is one of the most reliable engines ever. 223K and counting on my wife’s 06 Civic.
Anyone who doesn’t think this is underpowered should test drive one. I test drove one, loved everything about it but trying to merge onto a freeway with the wife and two kids inside was a chore, even with a long downhill on-ramp getting up to 60mph was tough. Its not any better around town, you floor it from a stop, the motor makes a bunch if noise and you go nowhere. Eventually the cvt starts transferring some of the noise into forward movement but it’s a pathetic powertrain overall especially given the mpg ratings.
Do I get this or keep my Macan?
Also should I buy one now at 15000 over msrp or wait for the new macan and order one now
I think Buick Encore GS is a nice American competitor of this car but most people ignore it.
thanks for the video. curious - if CVT is what we have to deal with going forward, which one is more reliable among all brands, is it Honda's? and would it last for 200K miles? how about Subaru's, is it ok CVT?
Honda was in the CVT game 25 years ago. They have been solid. Subaru has been ok as well.
My wife is in her second HR-V, she has a year left on her lease. She was shocked by the low MPG and the price increase. She wants to consider other cars now, but I want to get her to at lease test drive it. I was in my dealership the other day, I got to see it in person and I like it. I do have one question, were you Rickrolling us?
So Honda are making good looking cars again. Nice, nice
What was taped down across the top of the engine?
Needs an HRV-Si Mugen to match Hyundai Kona N or Audi QS3. Latest generation of Hondas has that taut svelte look of J Mays era Ford or VW Audi, which will last longer than the transformer toy look of the prior gen civic.
An hrv si would be amazing lol
yooo where did you get that cool battery cover during engine bay shot sick!!!!!!
It's a shame because the Magic Seat is really what set the
HRV apart from the competition
Which I doubt anyone uses.. we have it and I realized we never used it.
It was an interesting feature, but I think a more comfortable rear seat will be more useful, more often, to most owners.
@@raknoknak It was perfect for shoving bikes in. So much more convenient than breaking it down and putting it in the trunk, don't have to go around with a bike rack on the outside if you didn't need it.
@@kenhoward3512 that seems like an argument to just buy a Civic hatchback, in my opinion
I had 2 Fits, and used the Magic Seat maybe twice
I think it’s it’s a let down. Not to say the last HRV was great, but this isn’t great either. I’m also confused on what Honda’s entry level model is. Isn’t that what the CRV is? The replacement for the Civic once you out grow it?
I think it’s sad that Ford has a Maverick pick up truck and this is just another CUV that’ll get mixed up with a Ford Escape.
If having a low output engine wasn't bad enough, they decided to mate it with CVT! I understand fuel economy is good, it still doesn't outweigh a need for more performance. There are situations on freeway that may need a rapid acceleration. I have 2 vehicles: Honda Fit and Acura RL. I balance between the two as where one lacks, the other one has.
It has been some time since you reviewed an infinity car 🤔. Any plans?
The HRV EX-L in this review will probably be at $30K MSRP. For that money, you can get a Subaru Forester Premium with a 2.5 liter engine, although you would lose the leather interior trim. My dealer loaned me the Forester while my Impreza was in for a recall, had excellent acceleration in normal commuting.
Or a Maverick with much better economy and utility or a Bolt and save some cash on fuel
A Honda HR-V. Exciting.
i like the look
Essentially, the best thing they could do, at least for enthusiasts, is make a HR-V Si, with the manual and the more powerful turbo engine, it'd make this thing really cool I think.
You forgot to state the lack of rear vents. Which is a key feature, well lack of. This vehicles seems like a great deal for having higher ride clearance, and comfort compared to sedan, it’s basically a utility which it should be but lack of rear vents is bad for hotter climate regions
Base HRV LX AWD is $25k. Base Bronco Sport (awd standard) $29k. Honda looks to have a vastly better interior, but the baby Bronco can get out of it's own way and has a traditional gearbox. I think I'd spend a few more dollars on the Ford.
The HRV and Bronco Sport are surprisingly close in terms of dimensions so it's not a ridiculous comparison. And they both get pretty bad fuel economy!
I think the better question is - why buy either? The Bronco is just gonna be another Dodge Caliber, sells like hotcakes then they're all off the road in 8 years getting squashed in a trash compactor.
@@ktakashismith Nissan Kicks is the true Dodge Caliber replacement
It's reassuring that midwesterners can handle twisty mountainside roads of the western US and Hawaii, though in your case not surprising after so much track driving.
Usually in summer if gas was cheap, look out for Minnesota tourists.
I was contemplating an HRV largly because of the magic seat. They REALLY need to bring the fit back. It was better (per $) in every way.