for a real test run a full or half marathon with both at your pace race, then compare your average heart run and also how you feel the day after the run!
I think the issue there will be the recovery lapse time of time between runs and state/ condition of when the runs are done. that would be a pretty large variable
Very interesting. I don’t effort any pair of shoes more then 35 dollars. My kilometres are below 4 minutes. I was ashamed of myself not being able to effort anything more then 35 dollars. This video is a huge emotional support for the people like me. Yes, no question about the specialized shoes…. They are outstanding, that’s why people buy these but nothing wrong with cheap shoes as well. End of the day, it is our legs that generate energy.
Well there's a huge difference between shoes that generate 0 energy, because they aren't responsive, and a shoe that actually helps you go forward. Believe me your legs will generate energy but they'll be more effective and they'll have more health in the end of the day 😉
Just the expensive ones from this video give more comfort to your legs. I feel my legs a lot less when running with the vaporfly 2 Nike shoes compared to cheaper shoes that I have.
Great video, very interesting! Made me feel very validated with my affordable shoes. Also a tip for people with small feet: buy from the kids section, the same sizes and designs in the kids’ section are a lot cheaper than in the women’s section! Also more colourful :)
Alpha fly next % was meant for long distance runs at high cadence......they are responsible for Eliud Kipchoge breaking the sub 2 hr marathon time. Of coarse not everyone’s going to beat his time but we can always try! The 40 dollar pair is not bad either I have 40 dollar shoes that I use to simply change up my runs and not worry too much about my more expensive shoes and wear them down. 40 dollar shoe is a work horse .......usually when there’s new tech innovation the top shoes such as the alpha flys pave the way for less expensive shoes and get some tech incorporated in the less expensive shoe. Great vid!
as an ex-videographer/film maker. it’s very nice to see creators like you putting in the effort into your videos. the visuals are amazing! never seen a shoe review so aesthetically pleasing. keep it up! 😁
Your dedication to run is amazing and this is the first time I've seen a full fledge run test. Great job with the video and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
To be fair you're a great runner and at 3.15/km unless they are bricks you'll be fast in most running trainers. Finally a running review by a really good runner
I have been running with different variants of Nike Free for over 10 years (including 11 marathons). For me, a nice compromise between real minimal or barefoot shoes and regular, over-padded ones.
Nice video, however I think a better comparison would be something like the cheaper Nike shoes vs the Nike Pegasus. The alphaflys and vaporflys aren’t really supposed to be used on your daily runs and are only supposed to be used for races time trails etc. They are not really a like for like use comparison. With the Pegasus you have a €120 daily trainer, which many will swear by for comfort, running feel etc. The question I think from a lot of people getting into running would be, “do I need to spend on a Pegasus or can I buy the cheaper alternative, and get good miles on them without risking injury to knees etc?”
You're right. This is strange to say the least, its a cool video but its not accurate or logic to say the least. I ran with a pair of well used vomero 10 (never before used in running) a few years ago 2 times a week for 1 month (5 to 11kms per day) and I ended up injured and in need of treatment and spent a lot of money until I got fully recovered. Why? Because I used some cheap used shoes that messed up my chin and knees. They weren't responsive and they weren't cushioned like they should be, so now that I'm feeling like running again I'm spending money on a Novablast 2 o cumulus 23 that I'll purchase in Black Friday for 60 or 70€.
Always a good time watching you, Göran! They talk wonders about how these expensive shoes help with recovering. Actually, probably one of the best points I've heard about them. I also understand that's a big point for elite runners, not so much for recreational runners. But it may be worth testing as well. E.g.: one week training with ones and the others and comparing perceived efforts and heart rates at the end of the week? Have a good day, thanks!
Nice video! Crazy that the differences are so small. Althought it's known, that the alphafly really excells in long distance. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison half marathon or marathon :P
@@experiment54 Not all of them, and sponsored runners aren't the only ones that prefer them. But the data suggests the expensive high tech ones better for all levels and are helping people break records previously thought unbreakable. The high tech shaves milliseconds off your strides which adds up to PB's
Just found this video now 7 months late 😅 but I have to say I absolutely love watching you. The way you’re always smiling puts a smile on my face too and it genuinely made my day better. I’m now a new subscriber and I hope to see more👍!!
I watch a lot of running videos, but this was the first of yours that I have seen. I love the quality of your production. 2 things that I’ve seen in the comments that I agree with. 1. Put the stats on screen. 2. The likes of the alpha fly are designed for longer runs, so a half marathon comparison would be great to see. I’m subscribing ... let’s see what your content looks like going forward...👍🙂
I did a test...the next %2s were half a mile per hour faster over hoka bondi 6. Incredible! Please do another test to see how far you can run in 1 hour?
Göran, just wanted to let you know that I absolutely LOVE your office. The design, the colors, the desk, the running poster on the right side and everything :)
I think they are meant to bring greatest benefits over long distances. Would be interesting how they compare in at least a half marathon. Nice comparison anyway!
cool video. In Born to Run ch 25 there is a study quoted that states runners in cheap shoes get less injuries than those in more expensive shoes. ($40 vs $100 but in 90's money). It's an old study but very interesting conclusions.
Because vaporfly for instance isn’t made for stability or even toebox. It’s made for pure speed and same probably applied to the shoes they were using.
I ordered a new pair of Nike Pegasus 38's yesterday. And a few days before that I bought a pair of Brooks Hyperion Tempo. I think that BROOKS makes the absolute most comfortable shoe that I've ever worn but I'm not often able to afford them as BROOKS tend to go well beyond $150 bucks but I found them from the Brooks website on sale - regular $200 on sale for $104 - I couldn't say no to that deal!!
Wow, thanks for this comparison. Even if it's not very scientific (as you mentioned too), it's a very insightful test. Thanks. Personally I think that as runners we should change shoes and train the majority in "slower" shoes or even sometimes barefoot to challenge our body. Thanks again ❤
This is a great video! You didn’t bash the $40 dollar shoes even though they did not feel as good as the expensive ones. This is for sure a useful video for people who run all the time and people who run every now and then👌🏻
it really depends on your level, and how long you train in these shoes - it will make a big difference, goal - to feel great for 20 km or not to feel your own weight when you are running
Something nearly impossible to measure is how the shoe protects a runner from injury. That's probably more important than outright speed. Less injury = more training capacity = better results. I think the only way it could be measured is by having a mass poll of regular runners over time. Record shoe, injury type and frequency, training volume and intensity. Got to be a Phd paper in this.
Hey Göran, thank you for the video. As I understand the advantage of more expensive shoes opens when you run long. Like marathons. If I calculated everything right, these 0.2sec per every 80m will be 2.5sec per 1km. And for a full marathon, it's going to be 2.5x42=105sec. Or 1min 45sec. So, it makes sense when you're on top of your shape and fight for every minute. And you're right. For an amateur (like me and 99% of the people here) having $300 shoes doesn't make sense at all. Thank you for sharing. :)
Your calculation in terms of actual math is correct but you can't apply it here. Running math is complete different and varies from week to week, course to course. You also are neglecting to factor in distance, route(inclines etc) plus many more things. I have a pair of Vaporflys and while they were expensive the cost then becomes more than monetary value depending on your activity. Also say you buy these at 40 then you hate them and they are wrong for your foot, you are then limited to say trainers 60 and above - you've then spend £100.00, I paid 140.00 for my vapourfly new.
I'm not even a runner, but I went on a buying spree with Nike in the latter half of 2021, when the Renew Run, was out. I thought they were SO SQUISHY, just for walking around, and the occasional exercise, I ended up buying 6 pair of them! Glad I did, because they're all gone, now, except for pre-worn, on eBay. It's a great shoe. 👍
I am on a budget so I cannot afford to buy the smartest and newest shoes. On the other hand I find that the cheap ones wear out really fast, so I tend to go for last years model of the better models, or older if I know and like a particular model. This way you never own the 'top of the pops' but you do save a lot of money and get to run in really good shoes too.
Next time you do a comparison, please test the cheap shoes one day and the "super" ones the next day. While you have run in both at the same remarkable pace, you should consider that you were surely affected by the previous 6x1K (I'm talking about how much you've fatigued your legs muscles, nothing to do with the heart rate). I tested a lot of shoes at the running track, doing 5x1K and the difference between "normal shoes" and carbon plated with PEBAX foam is noticeable. i.e. the Saucony Ride 15 are 8 seconds slower than the Nike Vaporfly and 7 seconds slower than the Saucony Pro 2 on a 5K. Talking about the current shoes are now on the market, the Pro 3 are 17 seconds faster than the Pro 2, which means that the Pro 3 are 25 seconds faster than the Ride 15 on a 5K. This means, running 5 seconds per km faster, which is a big improvement in terms of performances. My 2 cents.
One thing a short test can't quantify is how much the more expensive (better cushioned) shoe may prevent injuries to your calves, knees, shin splints, etc. That injury prevention and ability to train injury-free for the long-haul may be well worth the extra $250 for someone who would otherwise have months of downtime or very expensive surgury and/or physical therapy.
This is very interesting, unique and bold comparison. And very nice way to conclude. Keep up the great work. Looking forward for a lot more videos from you.
Great video as always. For us normal «Sunday joggers» I think you just proved that equipment doesn’t matter. However, I think you make a great point when you say that if an expensive shoe motivates you more, go for it. In the end, motivation is what matters most for progression.
Thanks! Yeah that is so true if something can motivate you to train more I think it's a good investment in your self and in your health. But yeah I think some people believe they need expensive gear even to start running and that is really not the case 😊
It's kinda sad how youtube doesn't show you on my recommended page :( I rarely get notifications too. Do you have Instagram so I can see when you upload?
Ok that's strange I'm glad you found this video anyway, yeah I have Instagram same name there goranwinblad I always update my story there when I post a new video here on YT.
Good video,! The main difference I've seen with expensive shoes (as someone with an old knee injury) is they tend to be more cushioned and absorb more of the impact for me.
very interesting. Somewhat surprising that the result was the same, but I must admit that I was also happy about it. If you had run continuously on a threshold over several km, the result would probably have been somewhat different.
Glad you found it interesting! Yeah you are probably right and I'm pretty sure that the Alphafly will make you run slightly faster over longer distances.
Pro golfer did a test w inexpensive vs very expensive clubs. Golfer concluded that the money you save and take golf lessons would be more efficient to lower your score. The equipment needs to be sufficient, but it's the proper training that makes improvement.
You are a beautiful couple no question, helping with the video clip is a great team work, I really like the expensive Nike but I will run with the cheap version for the sake of money savings. Cheers from NYC
Meanwhile seth de moore runs a whole 10k slightly faster than your 1k repeats and as a running beginner I probably can't do a single 1k at 3:20/km. You did 12 during a casual workout session. Fantastic job! This is just to put things into perspective :)
Yeah I think I could do something like that or slightly slower on the 10k as well, it's quite common to train 1k repeats at your 10k race pace or slower if you are doing lactate threshold training. Yeah we all run on different speeds, but it doesn't mean we all can't enjoy running and have all the health benefits from it. Good luck with your running 😊
I have 28 pairs of running shoes. 🙂 They range in price from $65 to $165. My findings agree with yours. I also find to pay high prices for good shoes is not necessary. Especially for the carbon plated super shoes, leave them to elite runners, not for the rest us. We don't need them.
I run half marathon in champion galactic shoes in 2.15min and recover fast after...so.... everything is possible 🤣 i run in them almost 1 year. Now I have nike pegasus... but for beginners its not about shoes... just start running. Later think about speed and faster shoes. Good luck🍀
I chose the nike turbo 2s over the alphas because 1 they are cheaper I paid £160 at the time, and 2 are more durable so last a lot longer for day to day training.
An FYI- That first pair of shoes you looked at buying were a pair of racing flats, they are significantly cheaper normally, because there’s almost no material that goes into them. It’s not really a running shoe. So I wouldn’t have bought them for this video anyways.
The testing was interesting but I would argue it was wrong, the alpha are made to run long distance, not fast, if the other shoes were much lower stack height they might actually have an advantage in small distances. The alphas are for maintaining a good pace for a long time while keeping your legs fresh, the other shoes anxiously do less. So you probably aren't testing the actual purpose of the alphas.
Thanks for your feedback and yeah you are probably right but I still think it was interesting to test this since many people are racing in them for 5ks.
I got that renew run for a total of 300 km. I don't really like it being heavy and stiff. It's also not that stable. But it's good for recreational runs so it's worth it. It still really depends on the kind of runner you are.
If you look at it from $/km then 300 km from a $42 shoe is great. A well built $200+ shoe (like the Brooks Glycerins at exactly $200) will go about 800 km, which is $0.25/km. Whereas the Renew Runs getting 300 km from $42 is $0.14/km. The Alphafly's are good for 300 kms or less before the marshmallow zoomx in the heal loses its spring. So that's 300 km at $350 for $1.16/km. Yes you read that right. Alphafly's will cost you over $1 for every km you run in them, vs $0.14 for the Renews, that's 1/10th the price. Nike really wants even the most casual runners to buy a new pair of $350 shoes every couple of months.
Well they do have one thing in common. They both DESTROY your feet/legs/back with their unnatural narrow toeboxes, arch support (arch weakening), elevated heel and extreme amounts of cushion. Meanwhile a simple pair of 100 euro Altra Escalante Racers will keep your feetl/legs/back healthy and are perfect for running.
This dude is so happy it somehow makes me happy 😂
Thanks bro
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for a real test run a full or half marathon with both at your pace race, then compare your average heart run and also how you feel the day after the run!
Thanks for your feedback!
How many hours u run...?
I think the issue there will be the recovery lapse time of time between runs and state/ condition of when the runs are done. that would be a pretty large variable
Very interesting. I don’t effort any pair of shoes more then 35 dollars. My kilometres are below 4 minutes. I was ashamed of myself not being able to effort anything more then 35 dollars. This video is a huge emotional support for the people like me. Yes, no question about the specialized shoes…. They are outstanding, that’s why people buy these but nothing wrong with cheap shoes as well. End of the day, it is our legs that generate energy.
May I ask what shoes did u buy?
Well there's a huge difference between shoes that generate 0 energy, because they aren't responsive, and a shoe that actually helps you go forward. Believe me your legs will generate energy but they'll be more effective and they'll have more health in the end of the day 😉
You will generate double energy with alpha fly next percent zoomx eluid kipchuge shoes… they let u try it 30 days risk free
As long as the shoes don't cause you pain or discomfort you are good. There is nothing wrong with cheap shoes.
Just the expensive ones from this video give more comfort to your legs. I feel my legs a lot less when running with the vaporfly 2 Nike shoes compared to cheaper shoes that I have.
Great video, very interesting! Made me feel very validated with my affordable shoes. Also a tip for people with small feet: buy from the kids section, the same sizes and designs in the kids’ section are a lot cheaper than in the women’s section! Also more colourful :)
Thanks Liisa, I'm glad to hear you liked it!
Wow, a great hack (..for women 🥲)
Alpha fly next % was meant for long distance runs at high cadence......they are responsible for Eliud Kipchoge breaking the sub 2 hr marathon time. Of coarse not everyone’s going to beat his time but we can always try! The 40 dollar pair is not bad either I have 40 dollar shoes that I use to simply change up my runs and not worry too much about my more expensive shoes and wear them down. 40 dollar shoe is a work horse .......usually when there’s new tech innovation the top shoes such as the alpha flys pave the way for less expensive shoes and get some tech incorporated in the less expensive shoe.
Great vid!
as an ex-videographer/film maker. it’s very nice to see creators like you putting in the effort into your videos. the visuals are amazing! never seen a shoe review so aesthetically pleasing. keep it up! 😁
Thanks that makes me very happy to hear, more videos coming! 😊
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Ho Göran, next time, put the times on your screen, so we can see how they held up. Visuals are very effective!
Hi ok thanks for your feedback 😊
Just came from my long run, and when i layed down, opened my laptop abd saw your video, i was like hell yeah. Nice video, thank you for good content
Cool to hear always nice to chill a bit after a good long run! Thanks glad you like it 😊
Very good comparison!
You really don't always need a high-end professional shoe for good running
Thanks! No you for sure do not! 😊
I love my adidas terrex speed ld 260.. yesterday run the "hermannslauf" 31k.
Super cofty and lightweight trail shoe
Ok cool they sound good I haven't tried them.
me: Im not a fast runner
Also me: runs 6x 3 minute km
Your dedication to run is amazing and this is the first time I've seen a full fledge run test. Great job with the video and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
To be fair you're a great runner and at 3.15/km unless they are bricks you'll be fast in most running trainers. Finally a running review by a really good runner
Thanks Jonathan 😊
@@goranwinblad what are your 5k/10k/HM and M times
I have been running with different variants of Nike Free for over 10 years (including 11 marathons). For me, a nice compromise between real minimal or barefoot shoes and regular, over-padded ones.
Nice video, however I think a better comparison would be something like the cheaper Nike shoes vs the Nike Pegasus. The alphaflys and vaporflys aren’t really supposed to be used on your daily runs and are only supposed to be used for races time trails etc. They are not really a like for like use comparison. With the Pegasus you have a €120 daily trainer, which many will swear by for comfort, running feel etc. The question I think from a lot of people getting into running would be, “do I need to spend on a Pegasus or can I buy the cheaper alternative, and get good miles on them without risking injury to knees etc?”
Thanks! Yeah you are right just thought it would be interesting to compare the most expensive ones to the cheapest ones but good suggestion for sure!
You're right. This is strange to say the least, its a cool video but its not accurate or logic to say the least.
I ran with a pair of well used vomero 10 (never before used in running) a few years ago 2 times a week for 1 month (5 to 11kms per day) and I ended up injured and in need of treatment and spent a lot of money until I got fully recovered. Why? Because I used some cheap used shoes that messed up my chin and knees.
They weren't responsive and they weren't cushioned like they should be, so now that I'm feeling like running again I'm spending money on a Novablast 2 o cumulus 23 that I'll purchase in Black Friday for 60 or 70€.
Always a good time watching you, Göran! They talk wonders about how these expensive shoes help with recovering. Actually, probably one of the best points I've heard about them. I also understand that's a big point for elite runners, not so much for recreational runners. But it may be worth testing as well. E.g.: one week training with ones and the others and comparing perceived efforts and heart rates at the end of the week? Have a good day, thanks!
Thanks Roberto! Yeah that is probably true. Yeah that is a good suggestion would be interesting, maybe in the future! Have a good day you as well 😊
Nice video! Crazy that the differences are so small. Althought it's known, that the alphafly really excells in long distance. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison half marathon or marathon :P
Thanks! Yeah it for sure seems like the difference would be bigger in longer distances, thanks for your suggestion!
The difference are not small…it’s just the test not being able to properly show what makes the more expensive one being pro athletes’ top pick.
@@terpreterin9777 pro athletes are sponsored they don’t pay for them
@@experiment54 Not all of them, and sponsored runners aren't the only ones that prefer them. But the data suggests the expensive high tech ones better for all levels and are helping people break records previously thought unbreakable.
The high tech shaves milliseconds off your strides which adds up to PB's
@@over1498 if athletes are payin for shoes they ain’t pro
The most sensible trainer comparison video I’ve seen in a long time - great work! 😊
Thanks 😊
Just found this video now 7 months late 😅 but I have to say I absolutely love watching you. The way you’re always smiling puts a smile on my face too and it genuinely made my day better. I’m now a new subscriber and I hope to see more👍!!
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I watch a lot of running videos, but this was the first of yours that I have seen. I love the quality of your production. 2 things that I’ve seen in the comments that I agree with. 1. Put the stats on screen. 2. The likes of the alpha fly are designed for longer runs, so a half marathon comparison would be great to see. I’m subscribing ... let’s see what your content looks like going forward...👍🙂
Thanks and thanks for the good feedback, new video coming out today 😀
I would expect $300 shoes to easily outperform $40 shoes. I'd like to see a test comparing something like $65 shoes vs. $120 shoes.
I'm glad they were similar because there is no way I can afford to spend 300 bucks on a pair of running shoes 🤣
You can for sure enjoy running just as much without spending a lot of money that one of the great things with running 😁
You also have to get a pair or shoes that makes you excited to go out for a run IMO
I did a test...the next %2s were half a mile per hour faster over hoka bondi 6. Incredible! Please do another test to see how far you can run in 1 hour?
@@Louiejacob2 shoes don't get me excited to run what kind of crap is that. Just do the work and run
@@stayontrack I guess that’s subjective 🤷♂️
Göran, just wanted to let you know that I absolutely LOVE your office. The design, the colors, the desk, the running poster on the right side and everything :)
Thanks glad to hear you like it I spent way to much time renovating it 😅
Thank you! Good comparison and definitely won't be breaking the bank to buy expensive running shoes
I think they are meant to bring greatest benefits over long distances. Would be interesting how they compare in at least a half marathon. Nice comparison anyway!
Yeah you are right thanks for the feedback and suggestion! :)
cool video. In Born to Run ch 25 there is a study quoted that states runners in cheap shoes get less injuries than those in more expensive shoes. ($40 vs $100 but in 90's money). It's an old study but very interesting conclusions.
Because vaporfly for instance isn’t made for stability or even toebox. It’s made for pure speed and same probably applied to the shoes they were using.
I ordered a new pair of Nike Pegasus 38's yesterday. And a few days before that I bought a pair of Brooks Hyperion Tempo. I think that BROOKS makes the absolute most comfortable shoe that I've ever worn but I'm not often able to afford them as BROOKS tend to go well beyond $150 bucks but I found them from the Brooks website on sale - regular $200 on sale for $104 - I couldn't say no to that deal!!
They were made with the every-day runner in mind. That has to be perfect for you as you're one of very few people who actually run every day!
Wow, thanks for this comparison. Even if it's not very scientific (as you mentioned too), it's a very insightful test. Thanks. Personally I think that as runners we should change shoes and train the majority in "slower" shoes or even sometimes barefoot to challenge our body. Thanks again ❤
I admire your English. It's really good!
Thanks 😊
love this guy's attitude, really makes the video enjoyable.
Thanks 😊
i like how he's always happy
Oozes good vibes and excellent quality ❤️🌿
Thanks 😊
Tack Göran för en supertrevlig, nyttig och intressant video :) herrgud vad ditt leende smittar av sig!!
Tack Magnus 😊
Nice job and beautiful backround/home also.
Thanks Paul 😊
This is a great video! You didn’t bash the $40 dollar shoes even though they did not feel as good as the expensive ones. This is for sure a useful video for people who run all the time and people who run every now and then👌🏻
Thanks I'm glad to hear you liked it 😊
it really depends on your level, and how long you train in these shoes - it will make a big difference, goal - to feel great for 20 km or not to feel your own weight when you are running
Mind blowing fact, it shows how they advertise stuff, renew run is not bad I would definitely pick it, Tusen takk
Something nearly impossible to measure is how the shoe protects a runner from injury. That's probably more important than outright speed. Less injury = more training capacity = better results.
I think the only way it could be measured is by having a mass poll of regular runners over time. Record shoe, injury type and frequency, training volume and intensity. Got to be a Phd paper in this.
Excellent point. Worth searching for a paper on this on a lazy afternoon.
Hey Göran, thank you for the video.
As I understand the advantage of more expensive shoes opens when you run long. Like marathons.
If I calculated everything right, these 0.2sec per every 80m will be 2.5sec per 1km.
And for a full marathon, it's going to be 2.5x42=105sec. Or 1min 45sec.
So, it makes sense when you're on top of your shape and fight for every minute.
And you're right. For an amateur (like me and 99% of the people here) having $300 shoes doesn't make sense at all.
Thank you for sharing. :)
Hey! I'm glad you liked it 😊 Yeah that's a good analysis!
Your calculation in terms of actual math is correct but you can't apply it here. Running math is complete different and varies from week to week, course to course. You also are neglecting to factor in distance, route(inclines etc) plus many more things. I have a pair of Vaporflys and while they were expensive the cost then becomes more than monetary value depending on your activity. Also say you buy these at 40 then you hate them and they are wrong for your foot, you are then limited to say trainers 60 and above - you've then spend £100.00, I paid 140.00 for my vapourfly new.
I enjoyed this video and I appreciate the effort put into this video, keep it up!
Thanks! Glad you liked it 😊
This is the content I come to youtube for
Glad you found what your looking for 😀
I'm not even a runner, but I went on a buying spree with Nike in the latter half of 2021, when the Renew Run, was out. I thought they were SO SQUISHY, just for walking around, and the occasional exercise, I ended up buying 6 pair of them! Glad I did, because they're all gone, now, except for pre-worn, on eBay. It's a great shoe. 👍
I am on a budget so I cannot afford to buy the smartest and newest shoes. On the other hand I find that the cheap ones wear out really fast, so I tend to go for last years model of the better models, or older if I know and like a particular model. This way you never own the 'top of the pops' but you do save a lot of money and get to run in really good shoes too.
What an excellent video. It would be fascinating to see some price points in between as well.
Thanks, yeah will maybe do more comparisons in the future!
You are soo polite 🥺
Next time you do a comparison, please test the cheap shoes one day and the "super" ones the next day. While you have run in both at the same remarkable pace, you should consider that you were surely affected by the previous 6x1K (I'm talking about how much you've fatigued your legs muscles, nothing to do with the heart rate). I tested a lot of shoes at the running track, doing 5x1K and the difference between "normal shoes" and carbon plated with PEBAX foam is noticeable. i.e. the Saucony Ride 15 are 8 seconds slower than the Nike Vaporfly and 7 seconds slower than the Saucony Pro 2 on a 5K. Talking about the current shoes are now on the market, the Pro 3 are 17 seconds faster than the Pro 2, which means that the Pro 3 are 25 seconds faster than the Ride 15 on a 5K. This means, running 5 seconds per km faster, which is a big improvement in terms of performances. My 2 cents.
I was very fascinated about expensive shoes.Now I know 😄. Thanks bro. Love from india 🇮🇳
Good to see ur smiling face Sir
I once got a flat foot from wearing vans. I’m afraid to buy cheap shoes or flats now.
I love the positivity
I really dig your videos, Gøran. You are really a true enthusist!
I meant: «Enthusiast»
One thing a short test can't quantify is how much the more expensive (better cushioned) shoe may prevent injuries to your calves, knees, shin splints, etc. That injury prevention and ability to train injury-free for the long-haul may be well worth the extra $250 for someone who would otherwise have months of downtime or very expensive surgury and/or physical therapy.
This is very interesting, unique and bold comparison. And very nice way to conclude. Keep up the great work. Looking forward for a lot more videos from you.
Thanks, I'm glad to hear you liked it. More videos coming!
I think they should be tested for long runs, considering alpha flies developed at marathon distance as i know also with mrathon runners feedbacks.
Great video as always. For us normal «Sunday joggers» I think you just proved that equipment doesn’t matter. However, I think you make a great point when you say that if an expensive shoe motivates you more, go for it. In the end, motivation is what matters most for progression.
Thanks! Yeah that is so true if something can motivate you to train more I think it's a good investment in your self and in your health. But yeah I think some people believe they need expensive gear even to start running and that is really not the case 😊
First video i saw from you, good quality, i watched the whole video
Thanks glad you liked it and welcome to the channel!
This applies in severel things. If you can pay the premium price without effort, go for it.
The hole in the box was symbolism, for things to come.
Elsker din dialekt :D best wishes fra Litauen 👋
MY MAN BABCK AT IT AGAIN
It's kinda sad how youtube doesn't show you on my recommended page :( I rarely get notifications too. Do you have Instagram so I can see when you upload?
Ok that's strange I'm glad you found this video anyway, yeah I have Instagram same name there goranwinblad I always update my story there when I post a new video here on YT.
Good video,! The main difference I've seen with expensive shoes (as someone with an old knee injury) is they tend to be more cushioned and absorb more of the impact for me.
Thanks! Yeah that is true, for sure the Alphafly was a lot more cushioned than the Nike Renew Run.
Loved the video! It was awesome and helpful thanks for the content
Glad it was helpful!
very interesting. Somewhat surprising that the result was the same, but I must admit that I was also happy about it. If you had run continuously on a threshold over several km, the result would probably have been somewhat different.
Glad you found it interesting! Yeah you are probably right and I'm pretty sure that the Alphafly will make you run slightly faster over longer distances.
Appreciate your efforts brother,
Thank you.
Thanks! You have saved my precious money.
Thanks for sharing this video, after 6 months hoping the rebound (compression) they are still the same.
Pro golfer did a test w inexpensive vs very expensive clubs. Golfer concluded that the money you save and take golf lessons would be more efficient to lower your score. The equipment needs to be sufficient, but it's the proper training that makes improvement.
Ok that's cool to hear, yeah training is for sure the most important thing no matter what you want to become good at!
Excellent presentation!
Re do the tests after the shoes have had a good deal of use. Cheap shoes, the cushioning can last only a few runs.
So interesting report for who are thinking to buy a new running shoes. Very useful and to the point!!
Thanks, I'm glad to hear you found it helpful 😊
That home in Argentina it's only for rich people! Nice video but your home was amazing to see
Giving you thumps up from Buenos Aires
Thanks Matias glad you liked the video! Yeah we are very happy with it and have been doing most of the renovations our self the last year 😊
Brilliant comparison
Thanks 😊
how can u not see that bright yellow green Nike when running, u can see them from 3km
400$ in Norway? You guys are loaded! Full of money!
I just bought Nike Renew Run 2, thanks for the video comparison, it indeed helps, #cheers
You are a beautiful couple no question, helping with the video clip is a great team work, I really like the expensive Nike but I will run with the cheap version for the sake of money savings.
Cheers from NYC
Thanks Daniel, yeah I'm very grateful that Elin helps out in the videos 😊 yeah I think you can enjoy running just as much in the cheap ones.
Meanwhile seth de moore runs a whole 10k slightly faster than your 1k repeats and as a running beginner I probably can't do a single 1k at 3:20/km. You did 12 during a casual workout session. Fantastic job!
This is just to put things into perspective :)
Yeah I think I could do something like that or slightly slower on the 10k as well, it's quite common to train 1k repeats at your 10k race pace or slower if you are doing lactate threshold training. Yeah we all run on different speeds, but it doesn't mean we all can't enjoy running and have all the health benefits from it. Good luck with your running 😊
he had average heart rate of 153 during his 1k repeats, obviously he can do faster than 3:20 on average for his 10k
That was a really awesome video 👍 Hello from the U.S. 👋
Great vid, you seem like a great person!
Thanks 😊
I have 28 pairs of running shoes. 🙂 They range in price from $65 to $165. My findings agree with yours. I also find to pay high prices for good shoes is not necessary. Especially for the carbon plated super shoes, leave them to elite runners, not for the rest us. We don't need them.
I run half marathon in champion galactic shoes in 2.15min and recover fast after...so.... everything is possible 🤣 i run in them almost 1 year. Now I have nike pegasus... but for beginners its not about shoes... just start running. Later think about speed and faster shoes. Good luck🍀
My take from this video: choose the most comfy shoe to your feet 👍
I chose the nike turbo 2s over the alphas because 1 they are cheaper I paid £160 at the time, and 2 are more durable so last a lot longer for day to day training.
I run in a 40€ Reebok flexagon. Quick, comfortable, very good!
Haha real committed reviewer.
Thanks!
Haha thanks 😅
The alphafly is really good
....good for Instagram.
Very nice to compare them on effort you put in!
An FYI-
That first pair of shoes you looked at buying were a pair of racing flats, they are significantly cheaper normally, because there’s almost no material that goes into them. It’s not really a running shoe. So I wouldn’t have bought them for this video anyways.
The testing was interesting but I would argue it was wrong, the alpha are made to run long distance, not fast, if the other shoes were much lower stack height they might actually have an advantage in small distances. The alphas are for maintaining a good pace for a long time while keeping your legs fresh, the other shoes anxiously do less. So you probably aren't testing the actual purpose of the alphas.
Thanks for your feedback and yeah you are probably right but I still think it was interesting to test this since many people are racing in them for 5ks.
I got that renew run for a total of 300 km. I don't really like it being heavy and stiff. It's also not that stable. But it's good for recreational runs so it's worth it. It still really depends on the kind of runner you are.
If you look at it from $/km then 300 km from a $42 shoe is great. A well built $200+ shoe (like the Brooks Glycerins at exactly $200) will go about 800 km, which is $0.25/km. Whereas the Renew Runs getting 300 km from $42 is $0.14/km. The Alphafly's are good for 300 kms or less before the marshmallow zoomx in the heal loses its spring. So that's 300 km at $350 for $1.16/km.
Yes you read that right. Alphafly's will cost you over $1 for every km you run in them, vs $0.14 for the Renews, that's 1/10th the price. Nike really wants even the most casual runners to buy a new pair of $350 shoes every couple of months.
Well they do have one thing in common. They both DESTROY your feet/legs/back with their unnatural narrow toeboxes, arch support (arch weakening), elevated heel and extreme amounts of cushion. Meanwhile a simple pair of 100 euro Altra Escalante Racers will keep your feetl/legs/back healthy and are perfect for running.
*Not very scientific but it was a nice video, I like the concept of cheapest vs. most expensive.*
Nice video dude
Nice video, just subscribed. Is the bounce effect on the expensive shoe better for your body. I'm mostly running on asphalt?
I clicked the video to see the difference, turned out the $40 one is my shoe that I have never use for running
If one is not actively competing, a very comfortable cheap pair of shoes will do.
Loved the blind test, it'd really bad if it would have been similar 😂just subscribed, great to see some Europeans on TH-cam, keep going!
Try running in barefoot shoes! The Xero HFS ! Its amazing and you feel the ground. Not cushion !
Nice review. Keep running!
Thanks! 🏃🏻
I’ve got a pair of renew run.Not that bad,but no alpha fly for sure.I actually like the renew run for treadmill training.
Yeah I was really positively surprised by them but as you say for sure no Alpha Fly.