I've never used black and white film until a friend i had told me: "if you want to understand color, first start with a simple grayscale" and it change my way to look photography, a few months ago i loaded an ilford emulation to my XT-3 and is the only one i've used since then.
The start of this series was when I discovered your youtube channel, and this last year has been awesome! I did not expect this for a closing video, but it feels honest and I loved it. Thank you for sharing and being crazy enough to do 365 B&W. What a challenge. I started out with black and white because I did not have a color enlarger in the 90s; and then digital came to me and I shot a lot of color. Over the last year you've inspired me to take monochrome seriously again, and boy has it been awesome and humbling. I feel like I forgot everything, even seeing the viewfinder in black and white left me rudderless at the beginning. Now I'm really enjoying the monochrome, especially with visual rhythms and harsh light.
At 73 I see that too. Its because at ten, a year is 1/10th of your life. At 70... a year is a thin slice ... we have a lot of life to filter that last year through.
I can not believe that it's actually been a year already. It feels like I've just watched your "intro" Video to the B&W project come out like 3 months ago. This was really fun to follow along and I really like your insights about how black and white - while feeling limiting at first - can actually put you at ease while shooting because the absence of color does make certain scenes "easier" to photograph.
Came here for the B&W many months ago & stayed for Taylor ! At a time when I sort of felt over-saturated with color limiting my creative thinking, while also feeling as if it was affecting the way I interacted with the shared world of those around me, you really gave me that bit of inspirational drive I needed to pursue what I deemed as essential to my own unique path regardless of what anyone may think on this planet directing my visualizers every which way. Watching this B&W journey has taught me new perspectives and also has brought me ease in knowing that I am not alone in still appreciating the psychological beauty a monochrome image can STILL have in our professional occupations & our everyday lives. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU happy to be watching this journey unfold !!
oh no...i'm getting the itch...i feel compelled to Start a Project thank you for this inspiration - i hope you share more of your work from this year !!!
You are beautiful, your pictures are beautiful, your production quality is beautiful, your editing storytelling everything is beautiful. Thank you so for everything, i'm going to buy my 1st camera in a few months(i've decided fuji xs-20) and you are a BIG INSPIRATION to me. I can't put into words but your approach towards photography is what attracts me the most. You are really confident. I hope i can in future learn to see the world more and more differently or MAYBE AS IT IS...
In Drawing on the Artist Within & the most recent revision of Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, Betty Edwards asks all creatives to Perceive the: Edges; Negative Spaces; Relationships and Proportions; Light and Dark (I always thought of this as chiaroscuro, because I extended it to illuminated and obscured as well as more than a few other things) & Gestalt. This was 52 weeks worth of perception & meditation… in profound glory.
Your original video announcing your year of black and white was what gave me the courage to make the switch myself. This limitation has been surprisingly freeing, and it’s helped me develop my style as a new photographer more than anything else so far. So, sincerely thank you 😊
Feels like yesterday I watched your video starting off year-long challenge. That year coincided with me picking up film photography in general - learning how to do it, finding what i like and what my own style is, and putting up with myriad frustrations when I don't think I'm improving. B&W has a real appeal for me, even though I like colour, I find the photos I've been happiest with have been B&W. Thanks for the video, it's a real inspiration.
I mentioned this on your Instagram a while back, but after seeing you use black and white, and seeing how cool the pictures were looking gave me the courage to try shooting in black and white for the first time. So, when I took a spring break trip to the black hills, I brought a roll of black and white, and I fell in love with it. So, thank you for inspiring me, and thank you for all the videos you've made I've loved watching you try this out!
I can't believe it's been 1 year already. I've watched your 365 days of B&W challenge since you started it, and have enjoyed every bit of it. Congratulations!
This has been such a fun journey to follow and easily my favorite photography content on TH-cam. The “just taking photos” with ambient audio videos + a cup of coffee/tea became something I really looked forward to. Thank you!!
Agreed! Check out a TH-cam Channel called “Black and White Profusion” it showcases a wide range of black and white photographers - I get so much inspiration there too.
Hey, I'm so enjoying watching your photography videos. They're great to chill out to. I recently got a fuji xpro1, I'd always had sony. But your videos have inspired me to try different styles of photography. Thank you 😊
The very first line already annoyed me 😂 Leica is truly the apple of the camera world... (Possibly the other way around) I'm glad I'll get to see you shoot more color soon! I could never do the year of b&w, I'd quit after a week.
It’s beautiful, the video when you announced it and in was like a year!? And here we are now showing us and telling us that’s it for black and white ! I love it and look forward to more
When you started this project I was very curious how it would end. Thank you for summarizing your year. It was very interesting and your photographs are beautiful.
I swear if you were on the Calm app narrating photo history books or something I'd totally subscribe! So relaxing listening to you 😅 🧘🏻♂️ Another rad video 🤘
I LOVE B&W! I shoot in B&W and color, but I hate the controversy that people who shoot in B&W only do it because they are scared of color and can't edit it properly. Props to you for really being able to really convey emotion and depth in your photos by using B&W. Proves great photographs can be in B&W or color!
It is very inspiring, not just because you've challenged yourself but also you feel the entire progress and improvement yourself. I think that's the most important. Thank you very much!
Wonderful video edition😍 I'd enjoyed watching it, even if the photos weren't as gorgeous as they are. You have absolutely pass black and white challenge. Wise thoughts by the way. Growing as a person and as a photographer at the same time is the perfect combo to enjoy what you do. Congrats Taylor
Congrats on such a huge accomplishment. I don’t think I could do it - I just love color way too much. Happy to sprinkle in B&W, of course. Any new photography challenges for 2024?
Profoundly inspirational! Black & white has always been my first language in photography, switching to digital it took a while for me to try black & white. Maybe 2024 will be a year for me to shoot only black & white…..dust off my old F2 & shoot film.
Agreed! Check out a TH-cam Channel called “Black and White Profusion” it showcases a wide range of black and white photographers - I get so much inspiration there too.
Absolutely love this retrospective look back on your year of B&W. I have to commend you on the commitment required to follow through on this journey. I have to ask, did you end up with a favourite B&W stock? If so, did you have a different favourite for 35 and 120? Love your vids, thanks for sharing!
I have been waiting for this one since last year I remember starting the challenge with you Now while I wasn’t able to do the challenge I’m so happy that you finished it Black and white has slowly become my go to for taking pictures especially since I have started college Because of its timelessness it’s great for making memories Thanks for introducing me to black and white photography Taylor Looking forward to seeing this video :) PS I have decided to buy a camera for college and my budget is $200, what do you think is a good used camera for that budget ?
Yo just discovered your channel today and it is incredible and inspiring. Just wanted to say that I got into photography because of you about 3 years ago because I watch a Polaroid now camera review through moment. I’m not a pro, I’m not even paid, but I’ve got to take a lot of cool photos. Make it into a new paper and seen many smiles. So thanks 🤙
watching one of your videos updating on the progress inspired me to add some ilfords, tmax and others to my film bag. still learning how to work with the limitations that the film medium as a whole places on the art form and this is an interesting way to work with it more
Incredible as usual, Taylor. So encouraging to see someone stick to something for that long. Watching every video as brought so much inspo to pursue my dreams. 🙏 Can't wait for the TP B&W coffee table book 😉
Whenever i don't want to shoot with my FUJI CAMS i grab my M6 or Hassy 501cm load them with BW and just have FUN, BW is still amazing to me. You are correct a year goes by SUPER FAST! Sweet images by the way, I live in NYC and visit Coney Island a lot, wonderful place to shoot.
Ahah, this is so funny, I just bought a 15 films pack Tmax 400 and 3200 black and white from 1996 on a second hand french online website. I think I am exactly at the same moment when you started you black and white journey, I just loaded a film yesterday and I think those 15 films will make my year :D
Most of us have enough cameras to have one loaded with B&W and one with color. But I usually know when I head out the door which it is going to be for that subject or those conditions. And now I have a Nikon Zf and I can slide that switch over to B&W and see what B&W looks like in my viewfinder. I hope to be surprised a lot.
Im curious if like painting, black and white helps you develop the concept values and shading that helps as you move into color? Im a big fan of selective color myself, where color is used in areas for emphasis.
I was a photographer in the US Air Force back when they still shot film. My favorite memories are being in the dark room late and night, jamming to some Nirvana and Pearl Jam while processing all my daily film. Such great memories and your channel always gives me those vibes. Thanks for that. 😍
I get so inspired by watching your videos, thank you! I only shoot b&w😊 except for a roll of expired (2010) Fuji Superia It looked pretty cool. I think I'm going start keeping a roll of expired color film in my Kodak retina IIIc rangefinder camera.
How different do you think the experience would have been if you had shot B&W jpegs on a digital camera, e.g., using the Acros film simulation (with red/yellow filter) on a Fujifilm camera, instead of using different (?) B&W film stocks on different cameras for the whole year?
Beautiful video! Im always as impressed by the images as of the video quality. B&W is beautiful and a different beast than colour. I'm not sure one is harder or easier than the other, they are just different. Personally the older I get the more I lean towards b&w. Maybe it's just getting greyer with the years ;)
Agreed! Check out a TH-cam Channel called “Black and White Profusion” it showcases a wide range of black and white photographers - I get so much inspiration there too.
I have two bodies each with a half shot roll of black and white sitting on my shelf. Thanks for the inspiration to go finish them off! Did you wind up with a favourite b&w film after the year? Did you develop your own?
Do you use the external light meter because you don’t have an internal one? Or for other reasons? Do you have one to suggest in particular, or any would be good for your point of view? Thank you!
I have a toddler too, and I think this is the biggest reason I take pause in doing a 365 monochrome year-- I like to see her documented in color. Thoughts on having only photographed your son in b&w for a whole year at that age?
Your initial video about doing a year of monochrome was my introduction to you, and I've loved following your work since. It's inspired me to continue searching for new adventures in photography. This time of year always feels reflective, and I'm excited for the year to come. ❤
if after an uninterrupted year of black and white you don't decide to continue, it's not your path. despite what people say, in my opinion black and white is much more difficult.
a noble effort! Yet a Leica M9 may be a better idea! Film so expensive! It's always was and is expensive! I sometimes shoot color and de-saturate! A roll of Tri-X is over $20! A SD card holding 10,000 images is $10.Use an old CCD sensor in small camera. I shoot real film, HP5, T-Max.It'swhat I did since a child, nor 79!
As a B&W film shooter it’s been great watching you take this journey. I don’t think I’ve missed an upload all year.
😭😭😭
I've never used black and white film until a friend i had told me: "if you want to understand color, first start with a simple grayscale" and it change my way to look photography, a few months ago i loaded an ilford emulation to my XT-3 and is the only one i've used since then.
B&W is my fave and it’s my go to rather than colour. I don’t have any deep reason for it. I just like it more
The start of this series was when I discovered your youtube channel, and this last year has been awesome! I did not expect this for a closing video, but it feels honest and I loved it. Thank you for sharing and being crazy enough to do 365 B&W. What a challenge.
I started out with black and white because I did not have a color enlarger in the 90s; and then digital came to me and I shot a lot of color. Over the last year you've inspired me to take monochrome seriously again, and boy has it been awesome and humbling. I feel like I forgot everything, even seeing the viewfinder in black and white left me rudderless at the beginning. Now I'm really enjoying the monochrome, especially with visual rhythms and harsh light.
The older you get the shorter the years. I just passed forty and time is accelerating like crazy. Wonderful photos!
Wait until you’re 70😂
At 73 I see that too. Its because at ten, a year is 1/10th of your life. At 70... a year is a thin slice ... we have a lot of life to filter that last year through.
I just turned 76. Years seem like months.
I can not believe that it's actually been a year already. It feels like I've just watched your "intro" Video to the B&W project come out like 3 months ago. This was really fun to follow along and I really like your insights about how black and white - while feeling limiting at first - can actually put you at ease while shooting because the absence of color does make certain scenes "easier" to photograph.
Came here for the B&W many months ago & stayed for Taylor ! At a time when I sort of felt over-saturated with color limiting my creative thinking, while also feeling as if it was affecting the way I interacted with the shared world of those around me, you really gave me that bit of inspirational drive I needed to pursue what I deemed as essential to my own unique path regardless of what anyone may think on this planet directing my visualizers every which way. Watching this B&W journey has taught me new perspectives and also has brought me ease in knowing that I am not alone in still appreciating the psychological beauty a monochrome image can STILL have in our professional occupations & our everyday lives. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU happy to be watching this journey unfold !!
Wow, as someone who pretty much only shoots color this makes me want to shoot black and white. Great video as always and your dedication is admirable🖤
I did not expect to get emotional watching this. TYSM for the inspiration Taylor
Started watching your channel about a year ago now, and loved every second of it. Keep doing your thing, we’re all here for it
Thank you for the inspo! just stumbled across this video
oh no...i'm getting the itch...i feel compelled to Start a Project
thank you for this inspiration - i hope you share more of your work from this year !!!
Thanks for this Channel🎉 and thanks for being you 😊❤
Bravo! Both color and black & white have so many lessons to teach… be open to them all.
You are beautiful, your pictures are beautiful, your production quality is beautiful, your editing storytelling everything is beautiful.
Thank you so for everything, i'm going to buy my 1st camera in a few months(i've decided fuji xs-20) and you are a BIG INSPIRATION to me. I can't put into words but your approach towards photography is what attracts me the most. You are really confident. I hope i can in future learn to see the world more and more differently or MAYBE AS IT IS...
In Drawing on the Artist Within & the most recent revision of Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, Betty Edwards asks all creatives to Perceive the: Edges; Negative Spaces; Relationships and Proportions; Light and Dark (I always thought of this as chiaroscuro, because I extended it to illuminated and obscured as well as more than a few other things) & Gestalt. This was 52 weeks worth of perception & meditation… in profound glory.
wonderfully poetic marking of your incredible journey 💯
Congratulations! I can't. believe it's been a year already.
Your original video announcing your year of black and white was what gave me the courage to make the switch myself. This limitation has been surprisingly freeing, and it’s helped me develop my style as a new photographer more than anything else so far. So, sincerely thank you 😊
Feels like yesterday I watched your video starting off year-long challenge.
That year coincided with me picking up film photography in general - learning how to do it, finding what i like and what my own style is, and putting up with myriad frustrations when I don't think I'm improving. B&W has a real appeal for me, even though I like colour, I find the photos I've been happiest with have been B&W. Thanks for the video, it's a real inspiration.
I mentioned this on your Instagram a while back, but after seeing you use black and white, and seeing how cool the pictures were looking gave me the courage to try shooting in black and white for the first time. So, when I took a spring break trip to the black hills, I brought a roll of black and white, and I fell in love with it. So, thank you for inspiring me, and thank you for all the videos you've made I've loved watching you try this out!
I can't believe it's been 1 year already. I've watched your 365 days of B&W challenge since you started it, and have enjoyed every bit of it. Congratulations!
great to see your journey - Youre a strong beeing.. keep on living - I like the way you do !!!
Simply awesome - thank you for the sharing, your work is fantastic. I get that it's part of the process, but also don't be too hard on yourself.
This has been such a fun journey to follow and easily my favorite photography content on TH-cam. The “just taking photos” with ambient audio videos + a cup of coffee/tea became something I really looked forward to. Thank you!!
Just wanna add some peace + calm onto the internet. Thanks for joining me 🥰
@@graincheck here for it!
You are always an inspiration. Wonderful work. Love your new studio too!
Thank you for posting, I'm always inspired to go out and create after watching your videos
ahhh already a year?
your channel is my comfort channel for photography
literally the best compliment
Your videos are always inspiring, thank you.
Congrats on the journey, I really like your B&W work!
Agreed! Check out a TH-cam Channel called “Black and White Profusion” it showcases a wide range of black and white photographers - I get so much inspiration there too.
I cannot believe it's been a year already!! Really enjoyed following along, so many stunning images!
Hey, I'm so enjoying watching your photography videos. They're great to chill out to. I recently got a fuji xpro1, I'd always had sony. But your videos have inspired me to try different styles of photography. Thank you 😊
The very first line already annoyed me 😂 Leica is truly the apple of the camera world... (Possibly the other way around)
I'm glad I'll get to see you shoot more color soon! I could never do the year of b&w, I'd quit after a week.
It’s beautiful, the video when you announced it and in was like a year!? And here we are now showing us and telling us that’s it for black and white ! I love it and look forward to more
Love your photos and the calm way you present and edit your videos, very inspiring. Maybe it's time for my s/w 2024 ;).
When you started this project I was very curious how it would end. Thank you for summarizing your year. It was very interesting and your photographs are beautiful.
Hermoso video, felicidades!
I swear if you were on the Calm app narrating photo history books or something I'd totally subscribe! So relaxing listening to you 😅 🧘🏻♂️ Another rad video 🤘
omfg my new career
@@graincheck yassss! #sidesidehustle 😄
Great approach, concept, and video. Thanks for the insights!
I LOVE B&W! I shoot in B&W and color, but I hate the controversy that people who shoot in B&W only do it because they are scared of color and can't edit it properly. Props to you for really being able to really convey emotion and depth in your photos by using B&W. Proves great photographs can be in B&W or color!
It is very inspiring, not just because you've challenged yourself but also you feel the entire progress and improvement yourself. I think that's the most important. Thank you very much!
Highly inspirational 🖤 🤍
Wow, a year went by already 😱 thank you for taking me along on your journey.
i too shoot a lot of b&w , love your videos, only been a subscriber for a short time so i must watch your older videos that i have missed
Wonderful video edition😍 I'd enjoyed watching it, even if the photos weren't as gorgeous as they are. You have absolutely pass black and white challenge. Wise thoughts by the way. Growing as a person and as a photographer at the same time is the perfect combo to enjoy what you do. Congrats Taylor
I like this idea! Subscribed!
Congrats on such a huge accomplishment. I don’t think I could do it - I just love color way too much. Happy to sprinkle in B&W, of course. Any new photography challenges for 2024?
wow fantastic photos at the end 🤤 you are one of the most talented PHOTOGRAPHER out on YT. Is there a way to watch your b/w year projekt more slowly?
Profoundly inspirational! Black & white has always been my first language in photography, switching to digital it took a while for me to try black & white. Maybe 2024 will be a year for me to shoot only black & white…..dust off my old F2 & shoot film.
Agreed! Check out a TH-cam Channel called “Black and White Profusion” it showcases a wide range of black and white photographers - I get so much inspiration there too.
Interesting point about the safety net of b&w...
Absolutely love this retrospective look back on your year of B&W. I have to commend you on the commitment required to follow through on this journey. I have to ask, did you end up with a favourite B&W stock? If so, did you have a different favourite for 35 and 120? Love your vids, thanks for sharing!
I have been waiting for this one since last year
I remember starting the challenge with you
Now while I wasn’t able to do the challenge I’m so happy that you finished it
Black and white has slowly become my go to for taking pictures especially since I have started college
Because of its timelessness it’s great for making memories
Thanks for introducing me to black and white photography Taylor
Looking forward to seeing this video :)
PS I have decided to buy a camera for college and my budget is $200, what do you think is a good used camera for that budget ?
You can find the Minolta srt cameras for well under $200
@@laurencebell2737 is that a film camera or a digital one?
I’m looking for digital ones as there aren’t as many film labs here 😅
Phenomenal editing and super inspiring as always 🎉
Yo just discovered your channel today and it is incredible and inspiring. Just wanted to say that I got into photography because of you about 3 years ago because I watch a Polaroid now camera review through moment. I’m not a pro, I’m not even paid, but I’ve got to take a lot of cool photos. Make it into a new paper and seen many smiles. So thanks 🤙
Show us your metering technique ! Would be great to see it !
Super project! Loved the photos! Do you print them?
proud to watch this journey 🙏🏽
I love this so much. Might have inspired me to give this a shot.
Great video agree about B & W
watching one of your videos updating on the progress inspired me to add some ilfords, tmax and others to my film bag. still learning how to work with the limitations that the film medium as a whole places on the art form and this is an interesting way to work with it more
Incredible as usual, Taylor. So encouraging to see someone stick to something for that long. Watching every video as brought so much inspo to pursue my dreams. 🙏 Can't wait for the TP B&W coffee table book 😉
📕 ☕️
Whenever i don't want to shoot with my FUJI CAMS i grab my M6 or Hassy 501cm load them with BW and just have FUN, BW is still amazing to me. You are correct a year goes by SUPER FAST! Sweet images by the way, I live in NYC and visit Coney Island a lot, wonderful place to shoot.
As a color photographer, this inspired me to start my own 1 year of B&W, wish me luck! I think it'll be really fun.
Amazing and inspiring !
Have you considered experimenting with colour filter ? They can drastically change your look !
I love this so much!
love your channel
Been loving these videos! Did you end up with a favorite b&w film stock? Or just whatever fits the light/mood?
In 3:54 your style is beautiful , I like it ❤
Ahah, this is so funny, I just bought a 15 films pack Tmax 400 and 3200 black and white from 1996 on a second hand french online website. I think I am exactly at the same moment when you started you black and white journey, I just loaded a film yesterday and I think those 15 films will make my year :D
I like your bridge photo, I'm also the photographer I'm from Asia
Most of us have enough cameras to have one loaded with B&W and one with color. But I usually know when I head out the door which it is going to be for that subject or those conditions. And now I have a Nikon Zf and I can slide that switch over to B&W and see what B&W looks like in my viewfinder. I hope to be surprised a lot.
Im curious if like painting, black and white helps you develop the concept values and shading that helps as you move into color?
Im a big fan of selective color myself, where color is used in areas for emphasis.
I was a photographer in the US Air Force back when they still shot film. My favorite memories are being in the dark room late and night, jamming to some Nirvana and Pearl Jam while processing all my daily film. Such great memories and your channel always gives me those vibes. Thanks for that. 😍
I like B&W for plenty of different situations, but I don't know if I could go a year. Fall and spring colors are important to me, haha.
When shooting color, think in terms of B&W when you look through the viewfinder.
I get so inspired by watching your videos, thank you! I only shoot b&w😊 except for a roll of expired (2010) Fuji Superia It looked pretty cool. I think I'm going start keeping a roll of expired color film in my Kodak retina IIIc rangefinder camera.
Fuck, this shot made me goosebump 2:04, great video as always !
How different do you think the experience would have been if you had shot B&W jpegs on a digital camera, e.g., using the Acros film simulation (with red/yellow filter) on a Fujifilm camera, instead of using different (?) B&W film stocks on different cameras for the whole year?
Beautiful video! Im always as impressed by the images as of the video quality.
B&W is beautiful and a different beast than colour. I'm not sure one is harder or easier than the other, they are just different. Personally the older I get the more I lean towards b&w. Maybe it's just getting greyer with the years ;)
Agreed! Check out a TH-cam Channel called “Black and White Profusion” it showcases a wide range of black and white photographers - I get so much inspiration there too.
@@dragonrain3343 thanks for the tips, I'll make sure to check out that channel. Sounds interesting
@@O.Persson Pleasue 👍🏻
I have two bodies each with a half shot roll of black and white sitting on my shelf. Thanks for the inspiration to go finish them off! Did you wind up with a favourite b&w film after the year? Did you develop your own?
Why are you always so adorable?
Been considering this few times .. but always feels just I N S A N E :D
Very cool!!
Holy cow, it’s been a whole year already?!
That Leica commercial is absurd.
Do you use the external light meter because you don’t have an internal one? Or for other reasons? Do you have one to suggest in particular, or any would be good for your point of view? Thank you!
Gosh, has it been a year already!? 🎉
'Bouta do this w/ lomo purp.
Every photographer is diffrent but, I still have 2 rolls of black and white in the fridge from 4 years ago that have yet to find a reason to shoot.
what s the music you use in the end? beautiful
I have a toddler too, and I think this is the biggest reason I take pause in doing a 365 monochrome year-- I like to see her documented in color. Thoughts on having only photographed your son in b&w for a whole year at that age?
I think we remember In BW! Cave people painted in colors! The Egyptians painted their monuments! Color is life. BW which I do, is a now a footnote..
Was this video shot on xt4?
i love it, your story is so real :)
Your initial video about doing a year of monochrome was my introduction to you, and I've loved following your work since. It's inspired me to continue searching for new adventures in photography. This time of year always feels reflective, and I'm excited for the year to come. ❤
B&W just gives your images a more creative look IMO!
KEH is a nice outlet to find nice gear but it’s gonna cost ya.
if after an uninterrupted year of black and white you don't decide to continue, it's not your path. despite what people say, in my opinion black and white is much more difficult.
you mean to tell me it has been a year ALREADY?
I KNOW.
a noble effort! Yet a Leica M9 may be a better idea! Film so expensive! It's always was and is expensive! I sometimes shoot color and de-saturate! A roll of Tri-X is over $20! A SD card holding 10,000 images is $10.Use an old CCD sensor in small camera. I shoot real film, HP5, T-Max.It'swhat I did since a child, nor 79!
sick as always