First roll through the Pentax 17
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- the Pentax 17...what a surprise! what do you think of it?!
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Whether one likes the camera or not it is at least encouraging that Pentax has manufactured a brand new film camera. There must be some confidence in the market place regarding the use of film. Hopefully it will lead to more take up of analogue photography, more film choice and lower prices. Personally I think it’s an intriguing, inspirational offering giving the newbie ( + enthusiast & pro ) to shoot 35mm film economically in a really handy form factor.
It would be more encouraging to me, if pentax was not completely stuck in the past.
I mean, who`s really going to buy this, it`s just a toy. You can`t compete with a toy. Pentax is doing poorly.
And it seems it they don`t care.
@@brugj03 ; how so? Pentax is owned by Ricoh. Do you not think they’ve seen a change in the market regarding a resurgence in film photography ? Why would they throw good money after bad on a product if they didn’t think there was a market for it. It’s a business. As far as regarding it as a toy, it really depends on what you do with it. A talented photographer will produce good images regardless. Ever heard the term “ all the gear and no idea “. Perhaps if Pentax had put “pro” on the camera your attitude would be different?
@@robnewton3368 No, pro doesn`t mean a thing to me.
My thing is that i can clearly see that film is just at fad.
It`s cumbersome, low quality, non shareable and very expensive.
It doesn`t have any advantages over digital.
In fact i can make any digital photo easily look this bad.
Personally, i think Pentax has lost their minds to make this. They are already far behind and introduce this toy.
Thank you for this. It's such a joy to watch your videos. I really miss driving in utah and this took me back. I just got into film in 2023 with a pen f after a decade of photography. I love the idea of half frame and with the right tools and situation works extremely well. Intresting to see how the pentax will do
Hi, first of all I can't afford the camera at the moment for certain reasons that are not relevant here, but I have eyes in my head, listen carefully and can see when a brand new camera can cause a wave.
I am registered in several photo forums, on several Discord servers that are all about photography etc.
Before the camera came out, but before the first pictures and information were leaked, there was a huge outcry of indignation from many photo enthusiasts who realized that the camera didn't fit into their wish list instead of waiting for the first photos and testimonials.
Then came the first videos from photo influencers with meaningful results and the first negative voices died down. Then came the first results and testimonials from those who were not swayed by the clamor of outrage and the clamor flattened and flattened and flattened.
And now the first of the former screamers have also picked up this camera and are having the time of their lives, sometimes behaving like little children who got what they wrote on their wish list to Santa Claus for Christmas.
Of course, there are still a few incorrigible cholerics, but even they are becoming fewer and fewer.
So Pentax and Ricoh have done everything right and I wouldn't give a damn about the crap from the latest screamers.
Greetings from Germany
Exactly what I've seen too in the community. I've seen plenty of sharp photos and a solid A3-size print from this little camera.
Expect nothing and appreciate everything.
I applaud Pentax for taking the risk and putting out such a nice camera. At first the price seemed to high, but then I thought about how film photographers have really benefited from the second hand market and have never had to buy a new film camera. Back in the day, cameras were not cheap, we had plenty of film and labs to have them developed in, now that infostructure is gone. Things are going to cost more. $500.00 is reasonable and glad we have this today! Thanks Pentax!
I agree as a person who used film and digital I have a goal to buy this myself at some point
Amazing scenery and the camera looks really great
I became a pro using the original Olympus Pen-S! Front page of Africa's largest newspaper! Front page, across 5 colums! 1/2 frame fits photo paper better than 35 F.F. I made 8x12" and as big as 16x20"! Sure grain, it was Tri-X old and Rodinal. Many testers don't like the camera! Almost nobody liked the 1st Leica! I think though regarding price, a good Nikon, Canon, Pentax SLR used, with a few lenses, a better way! Great Video.
my only concern before the camera released was how zone focusing was going to hold up on a modern camera but after its been out for awhile Ive seen how beautiful the images are! This seems like a great camera overall!
Your channel is one of the hidden gems on TH-cam.❤
Great video! Instead of a sterile review I really like a video where I see the camera actually being used! I'm very happy I discovered your channel from your trip to Spain! 😁
I was on chilling mode here, thanks for the reminder of taking a snack, made it better! Awesome photos and video tks!
very impressive, especially the landscape snaps!
That horse is a fucking MODEL lol! Dude was posing!
Lovely photos!
great video , very interesting, great little camera, fantastic photos, Pentax has made some fine film cameras in the past, ....LONG LIVE FILM
Watch the filmed parts, they`re much better than the stills. Long live Digital.
Thats a most beaultiful camera i ever see!! Hi from BRAZIL!!!
You're the one reviewer who got the best shots from this camera I've seen, by far.
What an amazing video!! Such a good review of the camera it made want to go out to the desert and just enjoy the scenery. Love your work!!
Loved the flash shot by the fountain!
I wish they went with a film window on the back, I tend to forget what I loaded with 36 shots, neverind 72 😅
But I'm a fan, will definitely get one in the future.
You can put the cardboard endpiece of the film box into a slot on the back of the camera I believe, something I do with my medium format cameras always so it's routine for me.
@@oudviola Sure, sure, I just don't always have an appropriate box with me when starting a roll - for example when traveling - I leave the boxes off so the film takes up less space. But that's my fault for not being organized (the forgetting part, I mean).
The window seems like a curious omission, but it's not like it's a dealbreaker 😀
Still is just a nitpick,
I hear you!
I now have an urge to look through my back issues of Arizona Highways.
Nice review Taylor, looks like you had fun! 😀
The flash looks great, loved that one shot you took with it. I literally just picked up an Olympus XA2 so can't justify getting this right now, but the quality looks great, and super impressive if most were taken in Auto mode. Great video!
Your videos are so inspiring!
i would have thought it would make more sense since there are 36shots in a roll of film "ignoring the 24 rolls" that they would have gone with pentax 18 since 18x2 =36 where as 17x2 =34, if they are referring to the 35mm camera they should have gone with 17.5 ;) LOL.. ahhh well, hope you have fun with it :)
I think the frame size is 17x24mm Vs. 36x24mm of a 'full frame' 35mm. Most half frame cameras aren't quite exactly half; I have an old Mercury II that is about 20x25mm for some obscure reason.
Pov setup is on fire🔥🔥
Great shots in the sand storm!
The shot at 0:13 got me 😂
Such a vibe!
Amazing video!! Can I please have the LUT? Would pay for it of course.
Also one important question, what is the mount that you were using to shoot yourself taking pictures? 😅
It’s got the quality of an Olympus XA 2 when lighting is not so great. When lighting is good it becomes its own unique film camera.
Great video love the images..Own a Oly Pen F but might consider this as well. Come shoot North Dakota it's Legendary..
I just taken the plunge on this after seeing many reviews. Very impressed with the images you got
Great video. I love your energy and positivity. I'm eagerly anticipating a delivery from KEH. A 50mm for my RB67. Next Monday. Where were the hoodoos you were shooting? Ive been to the Kanab hoodoos and they were otherworldly. Amazing. I would like to visit more if you can point me in the direction of the ones you were at. Be well, cheers.
For a moment I feared a big Arrakis worm from Dune would come out.
Anyway, great video, great places. 😍
the painting sample at your back, I go with blue! haha, you're welcome! hahahahaha
What a very special video - wonderful photos and landscape - love everything about it - just my taste - new subscriber and follower
WOO TAYLOR POSTED!!!!!! (also what film did you use !)
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this was portra 400 :)
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I just got my first Nikon F2 a week ago, and I imagine that I had the same facial expressions as you here :D
I started shooting film when I was 10. Very nice camera. Questions: Can filters or a lens shade be added? A walk thought video would be great.
Very nice work. Thank You.
I have seen somewhere that a filter can be put on the front. I think Bad Flashes or GrainyDays mentioned it. I think it's a 40.5mm filter size.
love the images you took
I’ve apparently been kinda fortunate to get some of my vintage cameras as either new old stock, or complete in box. So I guess I’m spoiled.
Definite 'Astroid City' vibes at 10:00 mark 😁
Winner!!!
Wondering how I can buy one. I will try in Japan and Thailand this fall
Ooh nice, i knew i could count on you. Here u r in d dessert and deliver a nice video.
Hopefully if this gets a positive review Pentax will release a 35mm version. This one is not for me. 35mm would be nice to replace my 40 or so year old Nikon F3.
Right on!!!
This feels so alive
The thing that stresses me out about 72 frames is that there’s so many photos lost if you botch a roll in processing. “We Amish bowl 15 frames!”
Nice video. Can you please share the name of the first background music 😢?
Where do you get your film developed/scanned?
Whats the audio track for the first few min?
3:51 Lets Go Mets!!!
Oddly my reaction would be the same if they ever release an MX1 variant again….
But that DeGrom shirt though!
wow🤤
You should have shot triptychs when you were out in the desert. Half frame cameras are not to save money, but to be creative. If you wanted to save money, you wouldn’t buy a $500 zone focus camera. But something like a Nikkn N80 with lens for under $100.
What film did you use, where did you get it processed, what was the scanning process, and what did you do in post to the scans? Thanks.
Gurl you are such a dream. i fk love you. and your work.
nice
Tay tay im da furst 🤓
I will never get why people use half frame cameras. Cost saving would be the only reason. But you loose flexibility and tons of detail in the darkroom. A full frame of 135 is already on the limits of being too small for me in the darkroom and I will take a 120 frame over it at any given time. And imagining I would have to shoot through 72 frames to fill a roll, just so I can switch in a high ISO roll in the evening? Quickly the cost saving gets lost by half the roll filled with meaningless shots. But I guess a vertical half frame is perfect for the TikTok crowd to post after scanning, who will likely never get close to a darkroom.
My brain also drew a connection between smartphone pics and videos/social media posts and this thing's vertical format.
Film is likely to go the way of vinyl; become an overpriced hipster/influencer/consumer thing...Of course it'll keep existing for artists, but it will never be affordable like it was in the 90's again.
@@matthuck378 Film will never go the way of vinyl, the advantages just aren`t there.
Vinyl sounds much better in the cheap regions, you get the artwork and the songtexts in a great format.
Analog film sucks in every aspect. It low quality, cumbersome and very expensive.
You can`t share it online or archive it in a decent manner.
In short, it`s obsolete and belongs in a museum.
Btw. In the 90`s good development and prints where also very expensive.
The best video I've seen so far of anyone who has used this little camera. It's so refreshing to see someone just using the camera, rather than having to listen to some gear-head photography bro droning on about specs and price tags.
The best pictures I've seen from it as well. Many would believe you if you told them those shots were taken on 35mm. Those desert shots are beautiful.
You're right this camera isn't for everybody no camera is but I think there's a large enough audience out there looking for a new entry level camera to shoot film and has features that you can grow with.
Yeah but the thing is they can get a relatively better entry one for much cheaper
@@Ouusa with a warranty and parts availability?
@@Ouusa Yeah, but that involves rolling the dice on buying decades old gear. I have a bin full of old "working" film cameras I bought that weren't exactly working. I will get around to fixing them - but the bin's contents cost me more than I paid for the 17. Also, someone "new" to film might not want to navigate the minefield of figuring out which "old" camera to buy - when there is a brand new one available.
@@eyeamstrongest lol why are people suddenly acting like most people that are new to film get cameras that break down shortly after. Also that’s the whole point of getting a cheap starter camera so that even if it suddenly stops working the cost is so negligible it justifies the risk
@@theangrymarmot8336 yeah but respectfully you can’t use your personal experience to justify that because I can just as easily use my experience and the people I’ve interacted with whom I know have bought old working cameras that still work after years of use
Best video I have seen yet for the camera. Mine arrived yesterday and I am nearly done with the first roll. It never ceases to amaze me how toxic people are, and it was a good reminder when this camera released. This camera isn't perfect - as you said perfectly - there isn't a perfect camera. This camera is a perfect "walk around" everyday casual camera, or a second camera to cram into the bag with bigger gear (that is why I bought one...) Amazing to me how much effort people will spend to trash talk something solely because it isn't what - they - want instead of realizing what this camera actually is and rolling on with life and taking pictures.
Almost all the comments/reviews I've seen have been positive in tone, like the ones here. It's not for some people, and they state why - mostly that they don't like the 17, that it felt rather cheap, or wish the controls weren't so dumbed down. Sounds like it's perfect for you, hurrah! I personally haven't seen toxicity on such a high degree as to be amazed by how people are. Happy shooting!
@@codeyakexpeditionaires6854 My main social media for photography is Threads - and the hate on there is heavy, and it seems people are going out of their way to hate on it - as I see the same people over and over in any thread about it. I don't find it cheap feeling, and the plastic middle section is obviously designed for people to add "leather" or something similar (already companies making it.) My HiMatics and "cheaper" SLRs feel cheaper than the Pentax. Lol.
@@codeyakexpeditionaires6854 Roflmao, and what do you think could be the reason for it? Because there is no integrity. These "influencers" need to give "positive tone" of crap, else they wont get that crap. Their job is to make people feel happy to consume crap while paying a fortune of it. And they do it very well.
A B-Camera is one of my big goals for this. Pocket it along with a medium format camera, or a digital camera with a telephoto lens, and I’ve got something where I can take less weighty shots.
I really feel like casual is the right term for it. I know a lot of the toxic comments sections say “toy” but toy camera implies an indifference (if not avoidance) of image quality and exposure quality. This is not a Holga or Reto (those have a place, it’s just different). It’s hands-on enough to be interesting to a photographer, but automatic enough to keep things light. A sweet spot for a casual camera for when we don’t want to shoot 120 on a tripod and think about metering.
But yeah, it does feel like there is a lot of toxicity out there about the P17. I think a lot of it is gatekeeping. They want to feel special, and don’t want anyone who isn’t experienced enough to source and maintain a used Canon Demi or Olympus Pen to enter the world of film. I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if this often takes better pictures than some vintage models, the meter is better and many old half frame were also scale focus. I think it’s less about the Pentax 17 not having the right specs for them, and more about the fact that new users can easily buy and use it.
Between this and the GRiii with the built-in diffusion filter, Ricoh/Pentax has a pair of hits. The toxic jerks can stay mad while Pentax becomes more relevant than it’s been in years.
@@thebitterfig9903 It is really funny how so many of the critics are acting like zone focus and half-frame = toy. My GS645W Fuji is Zone focus (along with many Minoltas, Leicas, etc) and it works great. I just developed my first roll from my Pentax 17 - and I am quite impressed as they turned out great. I made a couple prints (8x10) off a few of the shots and the look great as well. If so many of these "critics" would devote the energy they spend hating towards taking pictures maybe they would have a better disposition on life.
For most camera nerds, this is a camera that defies logic. Most of us already have too many cameras, yet seeing this one makes you want to get one. But of all of the videos I have seen, nobody has done the most important: the smell test 😁
What does a new camera smell like? We all know the sweet machine-oil smell of the old ones. We know the disappointing smell of the 90's SLR's. But what about this one?
I have the Pentax 17 and funnily enough, the first thing I did when I unboxed it was do a smell test. And honestly, It just smells like a brand new digital camera or lens. There isn't a strong smell coming from it. There is a distinct plastic smell when you open the film door, but the smell mostly reminds me of a new Pentax lens. The Pentax 17 is made in Ricoh's Vietnam factory where the Pentax lenses and Ricoh GRiii are made, so the materials used in those are probably the same materials used in the 17...
Absolutely love that a new film camera came out. So glad Taylor got to test it. It seems like such a fun, casual camera to take around everywhere.
This is the best of the first impression videos of this camera. You always do a great job of keeping it interesting and letting the cameras speak for themselves but adding your insights in appropriate time. Keep posting great content.
Film cameras in good condition are becoming more expensive. I was on a trip to Europe and none of the stores had acceptable options. With how much used ‘very good’ condition cameras cost these days, It made me wish 35mm full frame cameras were still being made. I went for a Nikon FA with 50mm 1.4 nikkor and rear door and seals had to be replaced, which is what I did as soon as I got home, and I ended up spending 700 euros all in all including accessories, but wish I gave that up for a new-new camera in 2024.
love the photos TAY - the POV shots were dope
i think i started first following you because you are from Portland, like me, but of course ive stayed for the good vibes and beautiful photos. I do have a question if you dont mind me asking. I know you have a small child, (I have two toddlers myself) .. I always wonder how you are able to get away to these beautiful spaces, so often.. Thats the one thing i miss is just being unattached and just going to a place for the sake of shooting. I of course have a great partner, but we both work full time and i feel bad jetting off to have fun and exiting family life. and of course its always hard to get the shot with a couple toddlers in toe. Just curious how you manage family life, and work and sunny 16 and all the travel. and maybe if you have any tips :)
I like the idea of the camera. Sure, it's more than I'd like but I'd like to think I understand that the economics of such a camera aren't simple. Nice video introduction to it. I'm looking forward to more.
I just received this camera as a birthday gift. It feels great in hand, and it's a lot smaller than I thought it would be. Since I've never shot a half frame camera or used zone focus, I will also leave the camera in auto mode for at least the first 2-3 rolls.
I love this video - you have such a nice relaxed way of taking photos - great images from this camera
This little camera reminds me of my Canonet 28- a great camera for street photography
Thanks for the video ❤
This was a great video, I do relise we are looking at edited scans but exposures look nice, I've had pretty mixed feelings about the settings and controls on this camera, but do realise this is a camera for a different market than I belong too, I could see myself shooting it, I just couldn't see myself spending that kind of money, on that kind of camera. It is definitely a fantastic price for a Brand new Film Camera, that almost anyone could pick up and get great exposures with. ❤
That photo of the dunes in the wind.... 🤜💥🤛
Cool!
I don't think this camera is for me, I'll stick with the OM-1. But your video style is always a pleasure to watch😊 thanks for making them and have a nice day!
I wish Pentax/Ricoh much success with the Pentax 17. For me there are two deal breakers, 1) Half frame, and 2) Zone focusing. I guess a third deal breaker would be the price. You can buy a lot of incredible "like new" well built used film cameras for the price. For example: You can buy a mint Nikon F5 for under $400.
yes! It is new! The price formidable.
But look at the pictures it can make and how well it performs. The results belie your considerations.
@@charleyfolkes what innovation?
Well done on the video and photography! It was a really fun watch!
Those dust storms where beautiful 😍
This would be a great everyday camera with the portra 400 or fuji 400
half of the price to get 72 shots but definitely more than half of the quality!
that’s what i’m thinking 🤔
@@tristandu1776 I was thinking shooting Ektar with it's fine grain might be better suited for a camera like this
@@dflf I shoot indoors and at night a lot, but would definitely try the Ektar on a sunny summer day!
I was also near Pine Valley the day of that small fire and saw you on the side of the row. I wondered if that was you, from Moment and Graincheck. Guess I was right! Small world.
the horse is paid actor
Half frame couldn’t contain the Tortas
Estupendo reportaje de la Pentax 17 y buena composición de las fotos. Un saludo.
Very cool, idk about the half-frame. but with film so expensive maybe that's a good thing lol
The bouncy deer tho! 🥹 Awesome photos per usual!
Awesome review and incredible locations to try it out. Had been waiting for your take on it! Looks like it survived the sand storm as well.. I would probably shoot 24 exp rolls in it just so that I would get through the shots!
Tay, thanks for the review and I love the photos!
Great photos!!
How is called the thing you use to record yourself with the camera? I think its some kind of snorricam, but if you could tell me which exactly, LOVED the shots.
Very nice video. Well done. I gave up film about a year ago. I was raised on black and white photography. It would be nice to see how a half frame camera handles Tri-X film. Thank you for your hard work. Hi from Sandpoint, Idaho USA.
Hands down, the best Pentax 17 photos I’ve seen so far 👍🏽
Another great video Taylor! This camera seems to trigger some folks 😂🤦🏽♂️ I can see myself using this camera around my family. I’d love the 72 frames for simple casual shooting.
Came for the camera stayed for the channel.
There is a slot to park the dark slide of the RB67 on the left of its body. That Pentax is a great photographer’s camera because it seems to let you stay in the moment. The lens is incredibly good!
Came here for the 17, stayed for the landscapes. 🥰
The horse is a paid actor!
no but in all realness those two portraits of the horse are incredible, amazing work
He actually was in a very famous TV show back in the 90s
I'll go out of my comfort zone making this comment, but this video had me tear up. Some time ago I've actually been scared of just giving in and watching one of your videos front to back because I knew I would get emotional watching these beautiful, peaceful landscapes and your calming commentary alongside it. This video is great and I don't regret clicking it instead of that other one I was eyeing (it would have been a much more mundane experience). Thank you for making it! Keep doing what you do!
1:51 i like the setup of the camera
Hi! Your scans was edited? 🤔 Nice place! Remember rocks from "old village" here in Brasil...